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South African dockers are refusing to unload Chinese ammo and RPGs

If you have been following this blog you know the Chinese have been in the news recently.

A Chinese ship carrying 3 million rounds of 7.62×39mm and 1500 RPG rounds destined for land locked Zimbabwe tried to offload in the South African port of Durban.

Robert Mugabe’s Zanu (PF) party have been arming militias to drive out farmers and terrorize opposition supporters since the election they probably lost (but refuse to announce the results). Despite this the South African Defence Secretary approved the shipment: “This is a normal transaction between two sovereign states and we don’t have to interfere”. Not that surprising since the South African president openly supports Robert Mugabe.

Luckily for the people of Zimbabwe the dock workers have refused to offload the cargo.

Read the article here.

Police Ncaprotest 6Nova-1
Poster from SearAndHammer.com

(and yes … I am aware this post does violate my non political rule ;)

Posted by Steve on Apr 20th 2008 | Filed in ammunition, news | Comments (2)

Powder Burn Rate Chart

I came across this chart showing over 260 powders form 15 different manufacturers.

The chart of relative quickness of powders below is intended as a guideline only. Powders within three lines of one another are similar in relative quickness but cannot be directly substituted without due regard for safe reloading procedures.

It is a South African website so you may not be able to get hold of some of these powders.

Posted by Steve on Apr 19th 2008 | Filed in ammunition | Comments (0)

20mm Rounds

Idiot has been reloading 20mm vulcan projectiles in 20×138b brass to fire from his Lahti cannon.

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20mm vulcan projectile vs. .308!

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Lahti L-39 … Idiot is one brave man

More photos here and here

Posted by Steve on Apr 14th 2008 | Filed in ammunition | Comments (0)

Accurate Slug Shooting Made Easy

[Editor: This is the first post by Michigan Slugger]

After 20 years of shooting about every brand of sabot slug out there, our group of four has 2 favorite slugs we shoot. So far the best we have found for accuracy and power with our 12 ga. slug guns is the Winchester Platinum Tip-1700 fps and the Remington Solid Copper, 1450 fps- all 2  3/4 inch shells. We use Remington 870, Browning BPS and  Browning Gold shotguns shooting cantilevered rifled barrels only-1 in 28″ twist. 1 1/2- 2″ groups is the norm at 100 yds.  3-4″ groups at 150yds. are the norm.

These groups are shot with very little wind. Do not shoot in windy conditions because you will get inconclusive results and for the fact these shells are expensive! We sight in 2″ high at 50yd. , which will put these slugs at about 2″ high at 100 yd. 150 yd groups will be 2-4″ low. For 150 yd. zero sight in 2.5″ high at 100yd. Both these sabot slug brands shoot to about same point of aim

Most people should forget about 200 yd shots because of wind deflection , poor rest setup, and inability to judge distance. We shoot 3 shot groups because  barrel  heat  will spread groups out after 3 shots. Shoot in weather below 60 degrees. Wait 10-15 minutes between groups. Recheck groups in cold weather when it gets close to deer season. Slugs can shoot a little lower in extreme cold.

Some of us are going to a custom 1-26″ twist barrel and then we should be able to shoot 1800-2000fps slugs more accurate. Only thing is , you get considerably more recoil which I detest.  Our 1 in 28″ twist barrels are factory barrels made by Browning and Remington. Hastings barrels are 1 in 34″ twist. They seem to shoot Hastings and Lightfield slugs much better which are medium velocity and use a heavier slug . These slugs also use a special wad for stability down range.

Winchester Platinum Tip slugs are 400 gr. and Remington  Copper Solids are 438 gr. You will get very good expansion at all ranges up to 150 yds. I feel you lose too much velocity and energy at 200 yds to get good knock down power . Use 1900-2000 fps. slugs for shooting beyond 150 yds. They will expand better and produce more energy at 200 yds.  I particularly like Remington Solid Copper sabot slugs-1450 fps. in 2  3/4″ and 1550 fps. in 3″ slug. They have enough power and acceptable recoil. Also, they are faster on 2 nd. and 3 rd. shots because the barrel does not rise much after each shot.

Only shoot 1800-2000 fps slugs if you can tolerate recoil and muzzle blast, have a heavy gun, have a very good recoil pad, or heavy muzzle blast does not bother your ears. These high velocity slugs will cause your barrel to rise considerably. Wear ear protection on the bench for all slug shooting and especially for high velocity slugs.

Our preference for slugs  comes from 4 people  after hundreds of shots on the range over a period of 20 years. Other people may get different results with their guns.  Every gun is different and you must shoot various sabot slugs out of your gun to determine the best for you. Start with the slugs I suggested as a starting point. Buy 1 box of Winchester Platinum Tips and 1 box of Remington Solid Copper and find which one shoots the best out of your barrel. If you are recoil intolerant , go with 2  3/4″ Rem. Solid Copper, providing this slug shoots good out of your gun. This shell is a pleasure  to shoot.

Weaver Grand Slam and Bushnell Elite are two good scopes I can recommend for slug hunting. We have used these with good results. Some scopes are not meant for slug hunting and can not take the punishment. Try to use a premium scope and not the cheap ones. Cheap scopes will lead to erratic results with your groups. They will not hold point of impact. The crosshairs will shift after shooting, leading to frustration on your part because you will be unable to get decent groups. You will end up with fliers. You might as well have a good scope because you will pay for it in shell cost. If you are having problems grouping slugs, try a different scope before buying different brands of slugs. Check screw tightness and make sure you have good rings. Buy a premium scope that can take the punishment of slug shooting. Slugs can generate 35-45 ft.lbs. of recoil. Call a scope manufacturer about the models that can take slug shooting.

Bushnell 1.5-6×36 Elite 4200 Shotgun Scope

We also use Leupold  PRW scope  rings on our cantilever barrels. We strongly urge you to use cantilever barrels because the scope comes off with the barrel and is sighted in for the barrel. Otherwise if you mount to the receiver and take off the barrel you will have to resight in each time. Not good.  Do not use cheap rings. Use rings that have 2 screws on each side for a total of 4 screws for better holding power. Check screw tightness on rings and bases before each season. Slugs produce a lot of recoil and will loosen screws.

We use a 3 legged portable rest mounted on a plywood platform with a bag of shot mounted on the platform for recoil absorption. It slides back about an inch when the gun is fired thereby taking up recoil. We just sit behind the rest and look through the scope, but we do not put our shoulder into the gun.  The rest takes up all the recoil, so we don’t have to!  When sighting in fire one shot at 25yd.  Move crosshairs to center of hole in target while not moving shotgun. Slug gun will now be centered dead on at 25 yds. Use a friend to move scope adjustments while you hold gun  steady . You must hold gun absolutely steady! This will sight gun close to where it should be. Readjust at 50yd. This sight in method will save you a lot of expense due to the high price of these slugs.

Scrub out bore with a good solvent that takes out plastic residue from sabots along with gunpowder. Use a brush and rags to do this. Finish up with rubbing alcohol on a rag to take out all residue. Failure to do this will lead to plastic build up which will lead to inaccuracy. I hope this helps you slug shooters that are having problems with your shotgun or with your slugs.

Posted by michigan.slugger on Apr 4th 2008 | Filed in ammunition, shotguns | Comments (1)

Afgans been getting bad ammunition

The NY Times (emphasis mine):

But to arm the Afghan forces that it hopes will lead this fight, the American military has relied since early last year on a fledgling company led by a 22-year-old man whose vice president was a licensed masseur.

With the award last January of a federal contract worth as much as nearly $300 million, the company, AEY Inc., which operates out of an unmarked office in Miami Beach, became the main supplier of munitions to Afghanistan’s army and police forces.

300Px-Yugo 7.62X39 M67-2

Since then, the company has provided ammunition that is more than 40 years old and in decomposing packaging, according to an examination of the munitions by The New York Times and interviews with American and Afghan officials. Much of the ammunition comes from the aging stockpiles of the old Communist bloc, including stockpiles that the State Department and NATO have determined to be unreliable and obsolete, and have spent millions of dollars to have destroyed.

In purchasing munitions, the contractor has also worked with middlemen and a shell company on a federal list of entities suspected of illegal arms trafficking.

Moreover, tens of millions of the rifle and machine-gun cartridges were manufactured in China, making their procurement a possible violation of American law.

It is a long article. Somewhat sensationalist. Looks like some kids (18, 22 and 25 years old) found a source of soviet ammo and sold it. This is the kind of story that they will make into a move.

Read it here.

UPDATE:

This photo from the US Army shows the state of the boxes of ammo they were receiving

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Hat Tip: Danger Room

Posted by Steve on Mar 28th 2008 | Filed in ammunition, military | Comments (1)

.50 Glock

Guncrafter Industries are selling a .50 GI conversion kit for the the Glock 20/21.

50 Cal Glock
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The .50 GI round should not be compared to the Desert Eagle’s .50 Action Express or the .500 S&W. It is slightly more powerful than the .45 ACP.

Wikipedia information on the .50 GI:

.50 GI
Type Handgun
Place of origin Flag of the United States title= United States
Production history
Designer Vic Tibbets / Alex Zimmermann
Designed 2004
Manufacturer Guncrafter Industries
Specifications
Case type Rebated, straight
Bullet diameter .515 in (13.1 mm)
Neck diameter .526 in (13.4 mm)
Base diameter .526 in (13.4 mm)
Rim diameter .480 in (12.2 mm)
Case length .899 in (22.8 mm)
Overall length 1.221 in (31.0 mm)
Ballistic performance
Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy
275 gr (17.8 g) JHP 900 ft/s (270 m/s) 492 ft·lbf (667 J)
300 gr (19 g) JHP 860 ft/s (260 m/s) 493 ft·lbf (668 J)

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The kit will retail for $595.

Hat Tip: Foodpounds

Posted by Steve on Mar 27th 2008 | Filed in ammunition, handguns | Comments (4)

Winchester Reduced Recoil .460 S&W

Winchester has launched a reduced recoil .260 S&W for hunting. They claim it has 50% less recoil than a regular .460 S&W cartridge. The reduce recoil comes at a cost of approx. 34% less muzzle energy.

The press release:

For 2008, Winchester Ammunition offers a reduced recoil load for the .460 S&W Magnum, allowing shooters more pleasurable target sessions and hunting options. A proven big bore hunting caliber, the .460 S&W provides excellent energy transfer and deep penetration. The new Winchester Super-X® .460 S&W Reduced Recoil round features a 250-grain jacketed hollow point bullet, a muzzle velocity of 1,450 feet per second (fps) and an impressive 1,517 foot-pounds of muzzle energy.

Engineered to offer nearly 50-percent reduction in recoil compared to full power loads, while still retaining enough energy for hunting at normal handgun distances, the new .460 S&W Reduced Recoil load is an ideal choice for deer-sized game, predators and target shooting. The more manageable recoil also allows hunters the benefit of quicker follow-up shots.

The reduced load still has significantly more muzzle energy than the .44 Magnum.

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Left to right: .460 S&W Magnum, .454 Casull,
.44 Magnum, .45ACP, .22LR

Posted by Steve on Mar 12th 2008 | Filed in ammunition, handguns | Comments (0)

Shot gunning from a tank: M1028

The M1028 is a 120mm shotgun shell for the M1 tank. The shell holds 1100 10mm tungsten balls. They are apparently lethal up to 700m (765 yards). Here is a video of the shell being fired in slow motion. It shows the shot breaking the sound barrier and the shot pattern (H/T to Sebastian).

I tried to calculate the weight of each ball. It depends on how pure the balls are. My calculations, based on a company that makes tungsten balls that weigh 18 grams per cm3, indicate that each ball will weigh about 145 grains. That is a combined weight of 159,500 grains / 10 kilograms / 22.8 pounds!

(4/3) x pie x 0.5cm ^ 3 = 0.52 cm3
0.52 * 18 = 9.42 grams (145 grains)

Please correct me if I am wrong.

The requirements of the round were:

  • Defeat >50% Advancing Squad w/ 1 Shot
  • Defeat >50% Advancing Platoon w/ 2 Shots
  • 200-500M (threshold)/100-700M (objective)
  • Muzzle Action (i.e. No Fuze)
  • No orientation of the projectile
  • Vulnerability no worse than current fielded

 Pics Soldiertech M1028-1
The M1028 cross section.

Here is a before and after shot taking during the testing of the round. I am not sure of the range.

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Before

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Two dummies survived, the wall did not.

The concept of shot is not new. Grape shot or loose stones, metal and glass have been used for as long as cannons have.

Grapeshot Treatise Closeup
American Revolution grapeshot

Sources of information:

M1028 - GARM Final (PDF)
Military.com
PSMVCC (PDF)
JinJu Powder Metallurgy

Posted by Steve on Feb 29th 2008 | Filed in ammunition, military, photos, video | Comments (12)

Cost of big bore ammunition

Have you ever wondered how much big bore ammo cost? Here is a list of cartridges from a few manufacturers. It is not a scientific sample, I have not taken into account quality of the brass or bullets. I am sure by hunting around you could find cheaper prices (ha, no pun intended).

The reason many are very expensive is that they are not mass produced, unlike the .405 Winchester and .375 H&H.

Cartridge Bullet weight Cost/round
S&H 2 Bore Blackpowder Express 3500 grains $79*
.700 Nitro Express 1000 grains $50
.600 Nitro Express 900 grains $36
.500 Nitro Express 570 grains $14.0
.500 Jeffery 535 grains $17.00
.475 No. 2 Jeffery 500 grains $19.75
.500/.465 Nitro Express 480 grains $13.25
.450 Rigby 480 grains $11
.450 No. 2 Nitro Express 480 grains $17.50
.450 Nitro Express 480 grains $12.50
.404 Jeffery 400 grains $42.50
.416 Rigby 410 grains $3.32
.405 Winchester 300 grains $3.23
.357 H&H 300 grains $7.40

* Cost of bullet+brass unloaded, includes shipping cost.

Sources:

Winchester
The Firearm Blog
Kynoch Ammunition

Posted by Steve on Feb 27th 2008 | Filed in ammunition, big bore | Comments (0)

Hornady’s new products for 2008

Hornady’s new products for 2008:

  • 300 RCM & 338 RCM
  • Dangerous Game Series
  • 357 MAG / 44 MAG LEVERevolution
  • 32 WIN Special LEVERevolution
  • 22 WMR Rimfire
  • 6.5 Creedmoor
  • FPBâ„¢ Muzzleloading Bullets
  • SST-ML High Speed Low Dragâ„¢ Sabots
  • 450 Nitro Express 3 1/4″
  • One-Shotâ„¢ Muzzleloader Products

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Ruger Compact Magnums

More info here.

Posted by Steve on Feb 22nd 2008 | Filed in ammunition | Comments (4)

Graf & Sons team up with Hornady for new ammo for military surplus rifles

Graf & Sons and Hornady are now offering high quality ammo for military surplus rifles.

Calibers they offer:

  • 6.5×52 Carcano
  • 6.5×50 Japanese
  • 7×64 Brenneke
  • 7×57R Mauser
  • .303 British
  • 7.5×55 Swiss
  • 7.65×53 Argentine
  • 7.7×58 Japanese
  • 7.92×33 Kurz
  • 8×56 Hungarian.

More info here.

Posted by Steve on Feb 21st 2008 | Filed in ammunition, rifles | Comments (0)

S&H 2 Bore Blackpowder Express

There is ‘big bore’ and then there is the 2 bore. Schroeder & Hetzendorfer make a cartridge called the S&H 2 Bore Blackpowder Express.

These photos are amazing

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.700 nitro express next to 2 bore and 3500 grain bronze solid

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.500 S&W, .45-70, .700 Nitro Express, 2 bore

The caliber equivalent of 2 bore (’bore’ is generally interchangeable with ‘gauge’ in regard to caliber) is 1.326″ or 33.68mm! The bronze solid bullet weights 3500 grain / 1/2 pound / 226.80 grams!

While technically fired from a rifle these are more like massive shotgun slugs: a heavy projectile at a low velocity. The 2500 grain bronze solid leaves the barrel at 1500 ft/s and with 17487 ft·lb of energy.

Apart from the nerve destroying recoil, heavy rifle, heavy ammo and expense these big bullets slow down dramatically after entering the game and hitting bone. A problem when hunting elephant.

They even come bigger than this. The 1 bore has a caliber of 1.67″. The A Guage/Bore, about 2″, was used for punt guns.

More info at Schroeder & Hetzendorfer.

ACE has an interesting article on the 4 bore.

UPDATE

Jay Schroeder emailed me the pricing for for the brass and bullets:

Cartridge Cases are $495.00 per 10 pack shipped.

Copper FN Solids are $295.00 per 10 pack shipped.

All components are USA made by Americans from American material.

Although it may seem expensive, you are probably not going to purchase more than one set of brass.

Posted by Steve on Feb 18th 2008 | Filed in ammunition, big bore, blackpowder, rifles, shotguns | Comments (5)

The first smokeless military cartridge: 8mm Lebel

The 8 mm Lebel (8×50Rmm French) was and first smokeless powder cartridge adopted by the military of any country. It is also the one of the most bizarre looking cartridges I have seen.

 Wikipedia Commons 3 34 Lebel 8Mm Round
Photo from Wikipedia

It was introduced in 1886 and served through WWI. It was made obsolete in 1929 with the introduction of the 7.5×54mm MAS mod. 1929 (7.5 French) cartridge.

Posted by Steve on Feb 10th 2008 | Filed in ammunition, military | Comments (0)

Eley Ammo Rebranded

Eley have rebranded most of their .22 ammo and introduced a new produce called Team, an improved version of Club.

Eley 2008 Products-1

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I think the branding was a good idea. The boxes look like and the names are better. For example “Tenex” is better than “Tenex Ultimate EPS”.

The press release

ELEY is proud to announce with effect from 1st January 2008, the new re-branded product range, which features a rationalized product choice and introduces “Team” a new .22 calibre cartridge.

The re-branded product range, coincides with Eley’s 180th year of manufacturing high quality ammunition and will strengthen the company’s position in the worldwide market place. All the ELEY products have been re-branded with a new design but the product colours will remain the same to ensure customers can clearly indentify their chosen ammunition.

Changes to product range:

The premium products, Tenex and Match, remain unchanged, apart from dropping the terms Ultimate and EPS from the name. These products feature the well known flat bullet profile, but are also available in round nose versions (Tenex Pistol and Match OSP) which are ideal for semi-automatic rifles.

The introduction of the new blue labeled “Team” product is an improved version of the Club ammunition using the same flat nose bullet as used for Tenex and Match. We believe this product will allow club shooters to use a quality of ammunition closer to that used by championship shooters, but at a much lower cost and therefore giving them the edge over what they are currently using with existing Club ammunition. This product will be available only in limited quantities!

The popular Club product will remain unchanged apart from the re-branded label. Target Rifle and Standard have been replaced by a new improved product launched as “Sport” and packaged with a new green label.

Managing Director Mike Semens-Flanagan commented:

“Eley strongly believe these changes will not only help to consolidate our position in the market but also give customers shooting with our ammunition a better product and clearer choice.”

More info at Eley.com

Posted by Steve on Feb 5th 2008 | Filed in ammunition | Comments (0)

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