India military personal in Jammu and Kashmir are teaching school girls how to use rifles and heavy weapons so that in the event of a militant attack, they will be able to defend themselves.
The below video from Reuters (via. WSJ) ...
[ Many thanks to S'burg for emailing me the link. ]
WTF was that last bit of the clip ” the bayonet dance” ? – dazzle em with your hot dancefloor moves, then while they stand there and stare in raptuous wonder… stab em and then shake about and scream like a banshee afterwards.
Just Damn!
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0@ Spanish Inquisition
“Hindu radical” is an oxymoron. There are anarchists, terrorists, criminals, and general riot-causers, but there religion shouldn’t really be annotated to that. The attacks on Churches as just as shameful to Hindus as 9/11 was to Muslims.
But the point here is country v. country. Religion, here anyways, has absolutely nothing to do with it. I don’t see how India has nearly as much blood on it’s hands on the matter. Indias position on Kashmir has been defensive.
Not to say India hasn’t tried to shut down terrorists operations across the border. They have. The Kargil War speaks for itself.
But I do think you’re bringing up another matter. The Hindu-Muslim riots in Gujurat in 2002 was initiated by both sides, and both sides were affected equally.
0 0Mate`- a bit ignorant there, don’t ya think?
0 0So lemme get this right: Mumbai police can’t handle terrorists, but Kashmir schoolgirls can? Wow.
0 0The last guy was awesome!
0 0That was just for show, you can`t train a school girl to properly use a South African 20mm Anti-material Rifle. They should just stick with the AK47 and maybe they will have a chance.
0 0Yup, the “AK’s” pictured are the export version Romanian PM md. 90 with the push button folding stock, and the rest are of course the legendary and infamous INSAS Standard rifle – perhaps the only AK variant the has issues with reliability.
The bayonet demo at the conclusion, however, rivals the drill display led by Bill Murray in “Stripes”.
0 0@jdun1911
I think kids born with AK’s in their hands there.
0 0C.J. Chivers in his book The Gun writes that Russian kids get the four R’s, the last being rifle. The Kalashnikov being the rifle. They field strip and reassemble it in classroom competition, the best in the book published as done in 26 seconds. The sad downside is the child soldier aspect mentioned above and by Chivers regarding child soldiers in Africa.
0 0Máté
Are you sure about that because an Indian posters told us otherwise. They have strict gun control laws over there. That’s why I asked the question.
Are these trainers military or police officers (paramilitary) because their uniform suggested that they either one of the two. Both are paid by the government one is military and the other paramilitary. In other words they have the blessing of the government.
0 0You can get a gun in India, with enough money and people in yuor pocket. Air rifles are common, and the sport is growing fast, especially after Indias Gold Medal in shooting at the last Olympics.
Most guns will be antiques or shotguns for hunting. Once in a while you come across a rifle or handgun people use for target shooting. Any club or area where it’s legal to shoot will cost people ridiculous amounts of money.
In rural areas, old British Enfields, Sten’s, Sterlings etc. are common for defense against wildlife, bandits and such.
0 0Mumbia and it was discussed here.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1e4_1246490858
0 0Although embarrassing propaganda. The indians are making a statement in that they can more easily put a rifle in the hands of hindu/indian women to defend themselves with, than the muslims. And that these young girls are sufficient to combat armed muslims/criminals/militants.
Sort of like a veiled insult.
0 0@Rob
Yes, that was ignorant, but i dont even remember when and why i wrote that, sorry anyway.
Im also cuirious about the gun laws there. Ive found this so far: http://www.abhijeetsingh.com/arms/india/laws/rules/
0 0This is like a bad Japanese pulp fiction movie. I also agree with the other commentors that if they aren’t stocking the schools with weaponry the training is all for naught.
0 0As usual… Is it just me, or when the girl says “AK47″ the schoolgirls are actually wielding Indian INSAS rifles ?
Why dont they just say “assault rifles” ? Not scary enough for the average soccer mom ?
0 0Nice guest appearance by the NTW-20.
0 0You’d think Reuters would have ONE non shitty translator.
0 0I can understand the part about them teaching the girls how to use AK’s and such, but then there were two guys in the video showing a group of girls how to operate an NTW-20 anti-materiel rifle.
Overkill, much?
0 0Good for them. It makes a whole lot better sense than the typical “bend over and kiss your ass goodbye” crap taught in US schools.
Besides, this will make Sarah Brady cry.
I call this a win/win
0 0well. cant hurt to be training self defense assault rifle/anti material rifle/automatic grenade launcher training. i bet their not arming them though, so in case of militant attack they are still doomed. but hey, at least it makes em feel better in the meantime.
0 0Is that a .50 BMG or a 20MM
0 0Moulds, it is a Denel 20mm anti-material rifle. Lots of photos and a video on this blog post (scroll down):
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/
0 0Funny that our establishment should do that when the same government is making RKBA even more difficult. It’s just a standard exercise in absolute propaganda. When the terrs do hit us civilians, we wont have AKs or Anti-material rifles to respond… hell, we may not even have decent 22cal pistols and revolvers to ‘respond’ with.
0 0There’s a fine line between training for self-defense and training child soldiers. It’s not like the Pakistani Militants are the only ones waging an offensive war in Kashmir.
0 0Those are Army guys ‘training’ the kids.
The AK in the picture is the Romanian made MPiKMS-72 clone. Only the Army uses it. The rest (Paramilitary, Police etc) use Russian (Soviet) and Bulgarian AKs.
The restrictions are effective all over India.
The government of India, more so the Ministry of Home affairs, has sweeping discretionary powers and can decide to allow or prohibit anything as it deems right…. which most of the time is half-brained.
A number of villages in highly ‘sensitive’ areas are provided captured or surrendered AKs, RPDs SLR 1As, Stens, SMLEs and Indian made Sterling Carbines. The rest of us Indians mostly have to make do with the ample supply of rocks that we find on the road sides.
0 0So West World’s “Citizens” are below 3rd World’s women and children, as far as being “able” to carry guns…
Or so our “geniuses” in charge say!
0 0I’m sure this propaganda video showing women and children gearing up for armed conflict will go a long way to easing tension in the area.
This is a big fail by the Indian government in my opinion, they’re basically saying that they can’t protect their people and now have to induct children to fight their wars for them.
0 0In a gun fight there’s no such thing as overkill. Are these kids and their folks given arms to protect themselves or just rudimentary training? What are the arms restrictions in Kashmir, if any?
Are those trainer paramilitary or official military officers/trainer? Reporters tend to get the two confused.
0 0It seems to me a dog and pony show to make these people feel safer.
The Kashmir issue is very complex, and Indians have as much blood on their hands as the other guys. In fairness, they too should train muslim civilians against fundamentalist hindu attacks.
India’s hindu fanatics are very dangerous, just look up info on attacks on local christians and their radical agenda. We simply don’t hear much about them because they limit their actions to India.
0 0The threat people in Kahmir live under is horrendous. Americas threat level Red is like child’s play for them.
I think it’s a good thing. Pakistani terrorists and militants are ruthless, and have been known to kill all those who stand in the way of Kashmir, including kids and women.
0 0bit of a odd thing when you have to train women to defend thire home something i would have thought thire father,s would be doing oh that,s right this is a country where women are supost to get marryed at 12 and pop out SON,S at 15 i mite be odd in my thought,s but you can,t beat or rape a armed women and if any thing makeing shure a lady kniow,s how to use a wepon to defend herself and her comunity is a dammm good thing
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bit of a odd thing when you have to train women to defend thire home something i would have thought thire father,s would be doing oh that,s right this is a country where women are supost to get marryed at 12 and pop out SON,S at 15 i mite be odd in my thought,s but you can,t beat or rape a armed women and if any thing makeing shure a lady kniow,s how to use a wepon to defend herself and her comunity is a dammm good thing
You can get a gun in India, with enough money and people in yuor pocket. Air rifles are common, and the sport is growing fast, especially after Indias Gold Medal in shooting at the last Olympics.
Most guns will be antiques or shotguns for hunting. Once in a while you come across a rifle or handgun people use for target shooting. Any club or area where it’s legal to shoot will cost people ridiculous amounts of money.
In rural areas, old British Enfields, Sten’s, Sterlings etc. are common for defense against wildlife, bandits and such.
WTF was that last bit of the clip ” the bayonet dance” ? – dazzle em with your hot dancefloor moves, then while they stand there and stare in raptuous wonder… stab em and then shake about and scream like a banshee afterwards.
Just Damn!
Máté
Are you sure about that because an Indian posters told us otherwise. They have strict gun control laws over there. That’s why I asked the question.
Are these trainers military or police officers (paramilitary) because their uniform suggested that they either one of the two. Both are paid by the government one is military and the other paramilitary. In other words they have the blessing of the government.
Mumbia and it was discussed here.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1e4_1246490858
Although embarrassing propaganda. The indians are making a statement in that they can more easily put a rifle in the hands of hindu/indian women to defend themselves with, than the muslims. And that these young girls are sufficient to combat armed muslims/criminals/militants.
Sort of like a veiled insult.
@Rob
Yes, that was ignorant, but i dont even remember when and why i wrote that, sorry anyway.
Im also cuirious about the gun laws there. Ive found this so far: http://www.abhijeetsingh.com/arms/india/laws/rules/
C.J. Chivers in his book The Gun writes that Russian kids get the four R’s, the last being rifle. The Kalashnikov being the rifle. They field strip and reassemble it in classroom competition, the best in the book published as done in 26 seconds. The sad downside is the child soldier aspect mentioned above and by Chivers regarding child soldiers in Africa.
Yup, the “AK’s” pictured are the export version Romanian PM md. 90 with the push button folding stock, and the rest are of course the legendary and infamous INSAS Standard rifle – perhaps the only AK variant the has issues with reliability.
The bayonet demo at the conclusion, however, rivals the drill display led by Bill Murray in “Stripes”.
Mate`- a bit ignorant there, don’t ya think?
@ Spanish Inquisition
“Hindu radical” is an oxymoron. There are anarchists, terrorists, criminals, and general riot-causers, but there religion shouldn’t really be annotated to that. The attacks on Churches as just as shameful to Hindus as 9/11 was to Muslims.
But the point here is country v. country. Religion, here anyways, has absolutely nothing to do with it. I don’t see how India has nearly as much blood on it’s hands on the matter. Indias position on Kashmir has been defensive.
Not to say India hasn’t tried to shut down terrorists operations across the border. They have. The Kargil War speaks for itself.
But I do think you’re bringing up another matter. The Hindu-Muslim riots in Gujurat in 2002 was initiated by both sides, and both sides were affected equally.
So lemme get this right: Mumbai police can’t handle terrorists, but Kashmir schoolgirls can? Wow.
@jdun1911
I think kids born with AK’s in their hands there.
The last guy was awesome!
That was just for show, you can`t train a school girl to properly use a South African 20mm Anti-material Rifle. They should just stick with the AK47 and maybe they will have a chance.
This is like a bad Japanese pulp fiction movie. I also agree with the other commentors that if they aren’t stocking the schools with weaponry the training is all for naught.
As usual… Is it just me, or when the girl says “AK47″ the schoolgirls are actually wielding Indian INSAS rifles ?
Why dont they just say “assault rifles” ? Not scary enough for the average soccer mom ?
Those are Army guys ‘training’ the kids.
The AK in the picture is the Romanian made MPiKMS-72 clone. Only the Army uses it. The rest (Paramilitary, Police etc) use Russian (Soviet) and Bulgarian AKs.
The restrictions are effective all over India.
The government of India, more so the Ministry of Home affairs, has sweeping discretionary powers and can decide to allow or prohibit anything as it deems right…. which most of the time is half-brained.
A number of villages in highly ‘sensitive’ areas are provided captured or surrendered AKs, RPDs SLR 1As, Stens, SMLEs and Indian made Sterling Carbines. The rest of us Indians mostly have to make do with the ample supply of rocks that we find on the road sides.
There’s a fine line between training for self-defense and training child soldiers. It’s not like the Pakistani Militants are the only ones waging an offensive war in Kashmir.
So West World’s “Citizens” are below 3rd World’s women and children, as far as being “able” to carry guns…
Or so our “geniuses” in charge say!
I’m sure this propaganda video showing women and children gearing up for armed conflict will go a long way to easing tension in the area.
This is a big fail by the Indian government in my opinion, they’re basically saying that they can’t protect their people and now have to induct children to fight their wars for them.
It seems to me a dog and pony show to make these people feel safer.
The Kashmir issue is very complex, and Indians have as much blood on their hands as the other guys. In fairness, they too should train muslim civilians against fundamentalist hindu attacks.
India’s hindu fanatics are very dangerous, just look up info on attacks on local christians and their radical agenda. We simply don’t hear much about them because they limit their actions to India.
In a gun fight there’s no such thing as overkill. Are these kids and their folks given arms to protect themselves or just rudimentary training? What are the arms restrictions in Kashmir, if any?
Are those trainer paramilitary or official military officers/trainer? Reporters tend to get the two confused.
Funny that our establishment should do that when the same government is making RKBA even more difficult. It’s just a standard exercise in absolute propaganda. When the terrs do hit us civilians, we wont have AKs or Anti-material rifles to respond… hell, we may not even have decent 22cal pistols and revolvers to ‘respond’ with.
You’d think Reuters would have ONE non shitty translator.
Nice guest appearance by the NTW-20.
I can understand the part about them teaching the girls how to use AK’s and such, but then there were two guys in the video showing a group of girls how to operate an NTW-20 anti-materiel rifle.
Overkill, much?
Good for them. It makes a whole lot better sense than the typical “bend over and kiss your ass goodbye” crap taught in US schools.
Besides, this will make Sarah Brady cry.
I call this a win/win
Is that a .50 BMG or a 20MM
Moulds, it is a Denel 20mm anti-material rifle. Lots of photos and a video on this blog post (scroll down):
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/04/5-weapons-that-shouldve-been-in-transformers-2/
well. cant hurt to be training self defense assault rifle/anti material rifle/automatic grenade launcher training. i bet their not arming them though, so in case of militant attack they are still doomed. but hey, at least it makes em feel better in the meantime.
The threat people in Kahmir live under is horrendous. Americas threat level Red is like child’s play for them.
I think it’s a good thing. Pakistani terrorists and militants are ruthless, and have been known to kill all those who stand in the way of Kashmir, including kids and women.