Griffin Armament Releases New CAM-LOK Adapter for Fixed Barrels

@33002408 I think we’re looking at pistol and rimfire only, so far.

https://uploads.disquscdn.c... They also have a rimfire can adapter now that works with any 1/2x28.

@33002408 The real beauty so far is the ability to swap your can between pistols easily. I can use a 45 can on either 45, 9, or 40 without swapping a piston. I really hate swapping pistons (at the range especially).
This fixed barrel adapter seems like I’m still having to swap a piston, so why not just run a 3 lug on those with way cheaper adapters… I guess weight/length of the muzzle device? Not worth it to me.

I leave an omega 9k ready for pcc/lever action/300blk duty, and a 45 with cam lock.

@Tonka Way cheaper 3 lug adapters? These are much cheaper than 3 lug.

@Andrew Well you do need the perhaps more expensive adapter for your can which are ~130$, but then the actual mount/barrel adapters (which most people would multiple for their different guns) are like 30$ a piece for 3 lug instead of $60 for CAM lock.

Maybe you’re still buying the 70$ griffin 3 lug adapters, but I’m sure not.

@33002408 Look up A-TAC A-Lock System. Its the same like this one, but for rifle size cans. Besides that: I agree with you! The Griffin CAM Lok products do sound amazing on paper and I will definitly look forward to upgrade all my pistols/cans with them.

@Tonka It sounds like you are reaching to justify your original statement.

@Andrew I have 30$ 3 lug adapters on at least 10 guns. That’s a 300$ difference if I were starting new or a 600$ difference if I were replacing because I loved cam lock that much (which I don’t)… not sure how that’s a difficult concept, but you do you.

@Tonka I suppose if your messing with 10 of them, that makes sense. I have a much smaller number of pistol and rimfire cans and hosts, so I guess I wasn’t seeing it that way.

It is cool to be able to use the same adapter for a 9mm can on both 9mm pistol (piston requiring) and fixed barrel rimfire hosts for when I don’t feel like bringing two cans. Also, the only other game in town for rimfire QD is Gemtech, and I’ve yet to see that product actually exist. But I suspect that this is a better product.

@Andrew If I could leave the cam lock on the can and move from fixed barrel to pistols, I would probably make the swap!
You’re robably right about the gemtech. I played with it a bit, but it adds ~3/4 - 1” to the length and I really don’t mind threading on 22 cans for some reason… probably bc they aren’t insanely hot (unless you start shooting 5.7 or a ton of volume). You also have to line the gemtech up just right and it’s hard to tell which point to line up (marking paint helped).

@Tonka You can. I do it with my Odessa on my G44 and AR22 with the same Cam Lok piston that I use on my G19.

@Guest Granted, I've only been using a 30 cal can for a bit and had a rimfire can for awhile. I don't really notice that. My pistol can is still in jail, so maybe firing with browning action firearms is significantly different. I am overly sensitive to it, but I just grab a mitt and check to make sure it is still torqued down every magazine on centerfire rifles and I don't think I've noticed it really working loose. My rimfire can I'll check before I start using it at the range and then I'll make sure to loosen it a little and lightly torque it back down when done (otherwise it'll seize up and a real PITA to get loose later).

Yes, if this was a duty rifle or something like that, I'd want a secure QD system. But my use is all range or hunting. Not competition or mil/LE use. So I don't really need to worry about the can coming loose after two or three mags. Over torquing only happens if you are using a wrench on direct thread.

Osprey is a bit of a unique situation compared to a regular direct thread can.

The advantage of a direct thread is then I am not locked in to using one system for cans, or cans can only work on certain guns. Or I don't need to buy an adapter for every single gun. And more flexibility in muzzle devices. I prefer linear comps on my rifles. Basically zero options for one of those to work with a can. Which means I have to compromise my muzzle device to use a can. Or effectively have no muzzle device and only an adapter. or I can use my muzzle device and when I want to use a can, I have to take off my muzzle device, then put on the adapter and then put on the can. Then take off the can, adapter and then back on my muzzle device later.

Also plus costs. Even inexpensive adapters are in the $30 or so range, with some guys (cough cough, camlock) being in the $70 range per (and of course some muzzle device adapters can run upwards of $100 each).

Also plus extra weight, as in almost every case, adapter + can with adapter mount is typically 1-2oz heavier than just a direct thread mount on the low end, up to 3-5oz heavier (depending on if it is a muzzle device + adapter).

I can see the uses for SURE. They just don't apply to me wanting to shell out several hundred dollars more and add more weight to my guns for a somewhat faster and more secure mounting mechanism.

The only serious advantage I see is on pistols for camlock, not needing to switch pistons for different calibers, which reduces the overall cost impact. Still cheaper to get a new piston than another camlock adapter. For instance in my case, I need a 45 and a 9mm piston, one ships with the can the other was a $68 purchase. If I went Griffin and camlock, I wouldn't need the extra piston, but I'd be out At least 1-2 camlocks (I forget it one ships with their pistol cans, I don't think they do) which puts it at price parity or somewhat more. That's a minimum. I've got 3, maybe a 4th handgun to mount a can to and I'll likely have more in the future. Which is more expense. If I want to mount it on a rifle, now I need fixed barrel adapters and on my pistol can I just need a $30 fixed spacer. I wish Griffin just had direct thread options for all of their cans.