BREAKING: Swedish SOG and Special Police units to get LWRCI Rifles

LWRC M6 Rifle

LWRC M6 Rifle

There are several independent rumors that LWRC International LLC (USA) has a contract with some of the Swedish Police Units called Reinforced Regional Task Force (Piketen), and most likely other military (SOG) and police units, to replace their aging and somewhat problematic HK 53.

We flagged about this rumor in a recent article, where the Hamburg Police released the news that they are issuing AR-15 piston rifles from Haenel to some of their units.

One of the sources is now online: Cornucopia (Swedish).

SOG are using the HK G36C, HK 417 and likely the SAKO TRG M-10 among other firearms.

The HK53 in use in at least one Regional Task Force (Gothenburg) is very similar in function to the MP5, which makes training faster and easier, and comes with a more powerful rifle caliber suitable for the special units. Other special units (Piketen and National Task Force) use the HK G36.

Rumor has it they chose the model LWRC M6, but the exact model is unconfirmed until proven which might take a while.

You can check out the LWRC M6-G(overnment) model here.

The Swedish Armed Forces are also looking to have a new replacement for the aging FNC, Ak5 (Automatkarbin 5), to be ready by 2020. It would surprise me if LWRC, and the usual suspects like FN, HK416, weren’t a part in the selection. Potential name: Ak6, Automatkarbin 6. My guess for that selection: HK 416. The M6 is most likely too expensive. However, there is a lot of negativity around the HK 416.

GÖTEBORG-PIKETEN-SOG-LWRC-M6-RIFLE

LWRC M6

  • LWRCI ARMRII Mid Length Rail with Picatinny Rail Sections
  • LWRCI Nicorr Treated Cold-Hammer Forged Standard Heavy Barrel
  • Optional Full Ambidextrous Lower Receiver: bolt catch and release; magazine release and fire control
  • LWRCI Enhanced Fire Control Group
  • Patented LWRCI Short Stroke Gas Piston System
  • LWRCI Skirmish BUIS | Back Up Iron Sights
  • LWRCI Carbine Stock with integrated sling attachment point.
  • Nickel-Boron coated bolt carrier.
  • LWRCI Railskin Rail Covers
  • Caliber: 5.56 NATO
  • Barrel Length: 10.5” (26.7cm) | 14.7” (37.3 cm) | 16.1” (40.9cm)
  • Weight: 6.5lbs (2.9kg) | 6.8 lbs (3kg) | 7.3 lbs (3.31kg)
  • Muzzle Threads: 1/2 x 28 TPI
  • Rifling: 1/7”RH
GÖTEBORG-PIKETEN-SOG-LWRC-RIFLE

LWRCI IC-Enhanced

 

The price for the rifle is said to be around 2 500 USD, with fully equipped rifles ending at around 7 000 USD. So these are not to be considered as “volume” weapons, but for Special Units in the Armed Forces and Police. If I had a guess I would expect Spuhr mounts and B&T or Ase Utra sound supressors to be part of the options list.

As a reference, the AK4 (HK G3) cost around 400 USD and the AK5 (FN FNC) 300 USD when they were purchased. No consideration for inflation there, but it seems both the HK416 and LWRC are considerably more expensive. On the other hand, as the conscript military service has ended (but might start again) in Sweden the volumes needed are much lower.

The LWRC rifles have most likely not been delivered yet to the Police unit(s), but rather expected to happen during 2017. My guess is that SOG already have evaluated and using them as a replacement for the HK G36s. It will be interesting to see if the HK G36 is left now, or if it will remain in service.

Below: I haven’t seen one live, but I kind of fell in love with this clever idea to be able to service and monitor the piston.

2016-11-22 08.56.36

 

History: For history lovers. In 1990 when the Pope Johannes Paulus II visited Stockholm, Sweden, the Police changed from “Machine pistol model 45” to the HK MP5, which is still in service. According to sources, the MP5 is actually named Model 89 internally, but I can find zero google hits or any other confirmation. Everyone refers to it as the “MP5”.

Pope Francis very recently visited Lund and Malmoe in Sweden. If there were Police or Military units with a “Model 2016” (potential internal name for LWRC M6) around we’ll never know, but it’s an interesting coincidence.

 

It is interesting to notice that Peter Thorsell, the Police responsible for weapons permit for civilians and also one of the “experts” for the EU Firearms directive, has lead a long crusade against the AR-15, as it is described as having “poor accuracy and therefore not fit for civilian ownership“. And although there is not a single case proven where someone altered an AR15 into fully automatic,  the claim is that this is very easy to do and common practice, and therefore shouldn’t be allowed for civilians.

TFB will be following this matter closely in the future.



Eric B

Ex-Arctic Ranger. Competitive practical shooter and hunter with an European focus. Always ready to increase my collection of modern semi-automatic firearms, optics and sound suppressors.


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  • Wolfgar

    Sweden is a case study all of its own. Peter Thorseil needs to relinquish his title as “expert” of the EU firearms directive if he thinks the AR platform is inaccurate. I am happy to see LWRC may get a contract.

    • Jan Moszczuk

      I heard though M6 has heavy recoil compared to other piston guns especially LMT and HK416

      • Wolfgar

        It may have, I have never shot those piston rifles. I prefer the DI system, all piston guns have sharper recoil compared to DI. This is why you rarely see piston guns in competition.

        • GD Ajax

          I.e. DI is a crutch for bad shooters who can’t hit the boardside of a barn with anything else.

          • Wolfgar

            Most grand master shooters use the DI AR rifle platform. Now go back to your nap peewee, adults are talking here .

          • GD Ajax

            No COD fanboi. Master shooters my ass, they relay on a light platform that allows bad gunmen think their experts.

            They project their failure to shoot a non DI gun away from themselves and
            onto the gun. So it HAS to be a terrible gun if THEY can’t shoot it well, and the DI AR15 HAS to be perfect because it’s the only thing they
            CAN shoot (with all their tricked out garbage on it, special trigger, optic, etc). These are intended to increase hit probability in someone with good BRM skills, and they do.

            But these things can also turn the AR into a crutch for those with absolute crap fundamentals, making aterrible shooter somewhat mediocre. And kinda like
            his first BEEJ, he falls head over heels in love with the thing that did it, and feels obligated to defend it no matter what.

          • Wolfgar

            Please check your med intake, your doing something wrong.

          • Arc_Light

            Sorry to say, but you come across as a real jerk. I’m sure you’re better than that.

          • Uniform223

            Please elaborate…

          • Uniform223

            Exactly how does the gas operating system have anything to do with the users skill lvl?

      • n0truscotsman

        Its not noticeable to me. They pretty much have the same short-stroke gas piston system, which produces similar recoil effects.

        IMO, they produce slightly sharper, different recoil impulses than the stoner internal piston/DI.

      • andrey kireev

        I haven’t noticed sharper recoil on my M6A2. But what I have noticed was change of center of gravity from moving piston, it’s more noticeable when looking through optics, as red dot seem to come up little more than on a DI gun in similar setup with same muzzle device (Lantac Dragon)

  • Jan Moszczuk

    Poor accuracy? I don’t know what is he smoking but I want some

    • Kyle

      Right? I think that is the first time I have ever heard someone claim that.

  • LazyReader

    in exchange can we have the HK53’s they’ll throw away

  • Martin Törefeldt.

    When i Heard that HK would stop Selling weapons to non nato members, i was beginning to wonder what our military and police would do about its weapons from HK.
    guess i found the answer now (if this checks out).

    • Dr Zarkus

      “will in future only sell to countries that are
      democratic and free from corruption and that are members of NATO or NATO partners”, since Sweden is a close NATO partner and part of the EU, i think HK would gladly take your money (a lot of it) if you wish to choose some of their weapons.

  • Henry Reed

    They picked the most boring, basic LWRC they could. Nice.

    • Anonymoose

      Didn’t they come up with a DI rifle in the last year or so?

      • Henry Reed

        At least the DI has a slick rail. The M6 is almost a decade old and still rocks a chode quad rail

    • John Willis

      overpriced ,over rated ,my friend bought 1, admits he got rooked

  • Anonymoose
    • John Sjöström

      What s not? Everything about is wrong.

      • roguetechie

        Could you maybe elaborate on this since it’s literally the first negative opinion about the FNC / AK5 I can recall seeing.

        Other than people wishing that they could afford one of course.

    • Maxxor Brutor

      It’s heavy but that’s about it.

  • Giolli Joker

    “poor accuracy and therefore not fit for civilian ownership“
    Causal relationship. You’re doing it wrong.

    • Erlend Berg

      ..whereas in neighbouring Norway, a local police dept. expert was worried about the excellent accuracy of certain high-end bolt action rifles, for which he was loath to issue purchase permits. He felt they were too accurate for civilian use ..
      You can’t get a break.

  • Szabó Gergely

    “However, there is a lot of negativity around the HK 416.”

    What are these negativities around the HK?

    Y

  • iksnilol

    Yeah, I am not a fan of the AR-15 but saying it has poor accuracy is stupid. I mean, sure you can use arguments like “to stop people from harvesting herds/families of animals at once” when arguing against semi-autos and standard mags, but calling an AR innacurate? Good God, man.

    • john huscio

      Saw a guy who was issued one say it sucked in subzero temps.

      • iksnilol

        Guns suck in subzero temps in general if you don’t know what to do.

  • Oleg Kozlovsky

    “However, there is a lot of negativity around the HK 416.”

    Can we have more details ?

  • Klaus Von Schmitto

    “Aging and somewhat problematic HK53” ? Heresy.
    The most fun you can have at night with your pants on.

  • John Willis

    $ 7 k @ piece Roflmao

  • John Willis

    i think an LWRC salesman sschmoozed some swedish buyers , H&K over LWRC anyday

    • Paul Labrador

      All you are doing buying H&K is paying more for a brand name. LWRCI rifles are top notch and more than equal in quality to H&Ks….at a MUCH cheaper price.

  • Paul Labrador

    LWRCI too expensive? They run about $1000 dollars cheaper than an HK416s. Plus they are more compatible with industry standard AR parts than HKs are (which tend to use A LOT of proprietary parts).