S&T Motiv Shows Off K2C1 Improved Daewoo Rifle at KDECIF 2016

S&T Motiv, the successor to Korean defense company Daewoo Precision Industries, was showing off a new variant of their K2 rifle that equips the Republic of Korea Armed Forces, alongside the M16A1 which remains in use with second-line units. The new rifle is called the K2C1, and features a new quad accessory rail replacing the previous plastic handguard, full-length 1913 Picatinny optics rail, and AR-15-style six position collapsing butt, which also folds. The new rifle will come in two variants, short and long barreled, with 305mm (12″) and 465mm (18.3″) barrels.

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The new K2A1, long-barreled variant. Image source: milidom.net

 

The spec sheet of the rifle reads:

K2C1

Caliber: 5.56x45mm

Ammunition: K100/K101/M193/M196/M855/SS109

Weight (w/o magazine): 3.68 kg

Operating System: Gas Operated

Length:         K2C1 | K2C1 (short barrel)

Overall:  1,014 mm | 854 mm

Retracted: 940 mm | 780 mm

Folded:     730 mm | 570 mm

Barrel Rifling

Number of Grooves: 6

Twist of Rifling: Right Hand

Pitch of Rifling: 185.4 mm (7.3″)

Muzzle velocity: 960 m/s (M193), 920 m/s (K100)

Rate of Fire: 700 ~ 900 rds/min

Effective Range: 500 m (K100)

Modes of Fire: Semi, Auto, Burst (3rds)

Magazine Capacity: 20 rds, 30 rds

 

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Previously, a variant of the K2 had been shown with a new rail and handguard, but the new K2C1 is distinct; gone is the integral rear sight mount, in favor of rail-mounted BUIS. The K2C1 can also mount a grenade launcher just by removing the lower handguard, unlike the K2, which required complete removal of the handguard.



Nathaniel F

Nathaniel is a history enthusiast and firearms hobbyist whose primary interest lies in military small arms technological developments beginning with the smokeless powder era. In addition to contributing to The Firearm Blog, he runs 196,800 Revolutions Per Minute, a blog devoted to modern small arms design and theory. He can be reached via email at nathaniel.f@staff.thefirearmblog.com.


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  • Gabriel

    I love my K2. Too bad they will never get imported again…

    • Brian Peterson

      I’m jealous. I want one :-(.

  • Surfgun

    I love me some Dae-WOO!

  • gunsandrockets

    Loaded weight with a scope and sling exceeding 10 pounds.

  • Harry’s Holsters

    I wish they’d find a way to import these.

  • Dylan

    I think Lion Heart had been talking for years about reimporting both the K1A and K2 again. But it seems unlikely.

    • De Facto

      Why is it unlikely? Genuinely curious, import laws are not my forte.

  • noob

    if the K2 had been adopted by the US Army as the “M-16 Para” in a similar style to the FAL-Para, I wonder what the american market for bullpups and bullpup lower receivers would be like today in 2016?

    • LCON

      Sure if the FAL PARA was the HK G3.
      K2 is not an AR15. sure it’s inspired by it but it uses a long stroke piston more like an AKM then AR. Its like a 3 way hybrid with the best of the AR18,AR15 and AK. second even if the US had the Bullpup market would be just the same.

      • Both K1 and K2 should be based on AR-18 design. If I’m correct, both K1 and Type-89 are original native copies of AR-18 because we bought the licenses for it. Though, those licenses have now been long expired so we can make infinite copies without paying royalties anymore.
        I believe the Type-89 was a joint project between Korea and Japan last time I heard.

        I find it hilarious that the modernized K2 looks a lot more streamlined than the “modernized” Type-89 “prototype/concept.”

        :/

        • LCON

          the Type 89 is based on the AR18, that is correct. However these are VERY Different Weapons.
          Japan and South Korea did not joint any program for small arms and these two working together on any project is iffy at best.
          There is a lot of bad blood in S.E.A. and Japan is still a bit of a paharia especially in the Koreas Which were occupied by the Japanese from 1910 until the end of the second world war. If the ROK announced a Joint with Japan There would likely be riots in the streets.

          AR18 uses a short stroke piston system that with modifications is the basis of a number of Modern weapons including the G36 and Type 89. This is the same system used in a number of AR Piston mods as well. the Type 89 system has a AR15 like bolt with a Rod extending from where your would find the gas key that rod meats the piston which in turn meets the gas regulator.
          the K2 series weapons however use a long stroke system the K2’s is a 2 piece with the rod extending from the top of the bolt this based on the AK series.
          . And K1 is supposed to be closer to AR15 with a impingement system.
          They all have a similar bolt as both The South Koreans and Japanese had familiarity with Stoner designs the ROK operating M16A1’s well the Japanese had AR18’s

          The modernized Howa Type 89’s may seem more bulky but that’s mostly as they are adding digital system and a folding stock based off the Magpul Masada concept ( which also used an AR18 gas system).
          The K2C is using a smaller stock and always folded.

  • Joe

    Would love to see a pistol version imported, but even a rifle would be outstanding.
    My BIL was ROK Marine Corps so I’m going to get him a K2 eventually, but the new hotness would be even better.

  • UnrepentantLib

    The Koreans make some impressive weapons. Have any of them ever been tested by the US military? Or anyone else? How do they stack up against the M4/M16?

  • idahoguy101

    Anyone know whether the butt stock folds? Or simple retracts?

    • LCON

      Both, It telescopes and Folds

  • True Asian

    Ignorant weaboo alret

    • Instead of saying “I’m ignorant,” tell me why I’m ignorant.

      • True Asian

        Dear Mr. Asian pretender

        please just stop

  • Leigh Rich

    Ive a DR200 that I have an ACE folder on. Replaced the safety too. Great gun. Heavy. Only different I see the foregrip and lame AR style stock. JMO

  • Leigh Rich

    DR300 had FTF issues. Not that rare.

  • John Richardson

    I’d be happy if they would at least import the upper and handguard with or without the barrel. I’d be upgrading my DR-200 for sure.

  • GaryGary

    This rifle appears to be piston operated rather than the dirty direct impengment type ?

  • Doug Larsen

    At what point can we, here in America, start forgetting about 9/11 because it happened in “the past”? Some things aren’t easily forgotten.

    Fact is, Japan exercised pretty brutal rule over Korea form 1910-1945. Over 1,000,000 Korean men were essentially slave laborers during this period, and an estimated 200,000 Korean females were “comfort women” (i.e., sex slaves) to the Japanese occupiers. Some of these women, or girls really, were as young as 11.

    These are the kinds of wounds that don’t heal quickly. While I would agree with you that at some point you have to move from the past to the present, I suspect if you were a Korean with family members who suffered under the Japanese, you’d have a tougher time just getting over it. Especially when the Japanese refused for so long to acknowledge that such brutality and inhumane treatment ever occurred. Remember, it was only a few MONTHS ago (not years, but months) that Japan officially acknowledged its use of Korean comfort women.

    • >pretty brutal rule over Korea form 1910-1945

      That’s what the Koreans want you to believe. That’s mostly a lie created by the Koreans.

      Before 1910, Korea was in an economic and political mess. Literal mess, I’m telling you. Not only that, living standards was absolute trash for the common people and human rights barely existed over there.

      We DID NOT annex Korea forcefully if I’m correct. Korea agreed to be annexed with the promise that Japan is to clear Korea’s economic debt which we kept our promise. We then re-structured their government, modernized their laws up to Japanese standards (aka Japanese standards is essentially a modified version of British/Western/European standards), and gave everyone human rights especially women.

      Japan was the first to bring “feminism” to Korea.

      Korean women before annexation literally had next to zero human rights. They were treated as disposable and tradeable OBJECTS. Japan was the first country and people in the whole world to give women in Korea human rights. We were the first if I’m correct. Because of that, Korean women were no longer traded like Pokemon Trading Cards among households.

      Koreans did not have to enlist in the war. They enlisted under their own accord. Perhaps it was later in the war when they were also conscripted in the war when things became desperate for the Japanese. This was the same for Japanese civilians.

      It is also normal for a country under your control (annexed countries) to get their people to do their part for the war effort (war factories).

      Riots are normal for those who did not like the idea of “annexation,” and it’s not abnormal for deaths to occur during those riots.

      Unlike other countries that annexed other countries with “enslavement” in mind, we were different; we gave Koreans fair amount of freedom under Japanese annexation.

      Koreans and the world want you to believe we “enslaved” women for prostitution. Again, that is a Korean lie. We developed the “Comfort Women” system which has been used for centuries by other countries around the world since Roman times (if I’m correct). We merely borrowed the system. We believed “rape” was immoral as our laws were based on Western ideology. Therefore, prostitution was the best way to relief stress for our soldiers to increase morale. We recruited brothel business owners and pimps. Fun fact: Most of these brothel owners and pimps were KOREANS themselves. How ironic.

      Unfortunately, some of these brothel owners and pimps were corrupt, so they would trick unsuspected women (Koreans and other women of different nationalities) to work for them and they were tricked and “enslaved” by these brothel owners/pimps. Mind you, the Japanese government merely used a LEGAL SYSTEM. We aren’t responsible for what these brothel owners and pimps do to their “employees.” Obviously we would crack down on these “illegal” brothels and arrest evil/bad pimps, but we can’t catch all of them. Even in current day Japan, Police have to crack down on “illegal businesses” through ways that abide to the law. How we crack down on criminals in the past is not much different from how we crack down on criminals today.

      Do you know why these Korean women were so easily tricked in the first place? Because they didn’t have the education in the first place unlike the Japanese commoners. These women came from low income families or poor families with no prior education before annexation.

      Even after the war ended in 1945, some of the women came home to Korea with at least 1 million USD. If you convert 1945 stock exchange to 2016 inflation price, it would be $13,533,668.80. How about $500k USD? That would be $6,766,834.40.

      Seriously, with all that money in their pockets and in the 21st century they want “apology” and “compensation.” I… do these people have “shame” in their dictionary? I think it’s ridiculous.

      They should not blame the Japanese government for “mistreatments.” They should blame the evil pimps and brothel owners who tricked them into “slavery” and stole their earnings (some of these owners stole all their income).

      I find it hilarious and ironic that after they were freed from annexation, Korean prostitution was at an all time high with numbers as high as 1 million if I’m correct (correct me if I’m wrong).

      I also find it hilarious that while Korea has the time to whine about “Comfort Women,” Korea forgot that during Vietnam War, S. Korean soldiers were responsible for raping hundreds and thousands of Vietnamese people. Funny how every time you mention that incident to “raging Koreans” on the internet, they either shut up or try to come up with an excuse and create vulgar lies about your family and friends.

      Korea knows no bounds. Koreans are hypocrites.

      Let me tell you another story. How come there are so little “last names” in Korea? Because Korea was built on lies. During feudal times, Korea had a hierarchy system. This meant that it was nearly next to impossible for a commoner or someone at the very bottom of the hierarchy system to climb up the ladder. Thus, they had to “buy success.” Basically, they had to lie that they were from a prestigious family by claiming their last name belonged to that prestigious, high ranking family. They had to lie for various things in order to not be poor and actually sustain their family and not live a crap life. This was the beginning of “Korean lies.”

      Even today, Korean lies are nothing new. Korea believes their success was built by themselves and that Korea has always been great since centuries ago. This was literally taught at public schools and there was a huge scandal about it not so long ago.

      It’s also incredibly ironic that Koreans have the time to protest “Japanese whaling” when Koreans and Chinese catch and kill 2x or 3x more the amount Japanese catch and kill.

      I also find it very sad that South Koreans hate Japan more than their immediate threat, North Korea according to a recent survey/poll.

      I don’t hate Koreans or Chinese that much. It’s mostly the old generation that are that senile and ignorant/arrogant. Today’s generation are fairly okay depending on what kind of environment they grew up in and what kind of education they received. Those willing to travel abroad are usually open minded and are not that nationalistic compared to those who want to remain their country of origin.

      If you ever feel that you want to continue this discussion, feel free to email me at ikazuchipatches [@] gmail [dot] com.

      Thanks.

    • My comment got deleted as spam. I wanted to give my opinion but I guess talking about the particular subject wasn’t appropriate for this website. If you’re curious as to what I have to say, please send me an email at ikazuchipatches [at] gmail [dot com]. Thanks.

  • So basically, you’re telling me that if the whole world says “it is the truth,” you must always agree “it is the truth” and that investigating their claims as well as cross referencing other materials is considered a “hate crime” and “hate speech?” Hmmm…

    Let me ask you something. How many Japanese people did you talk to about Japanese involvement in WWII? You can’t simply rely on American and Korean sources and simply accept them as the truth. Even well established historians get their facts wrong when you cross reference their information with various sources including national databases, transcripts, and etc from different countries.

    History should never be seen through one perspective, otherwise you will forever be ignorant.

    At the same time, simply talking to Japanese people is not enough, as I must also talk to Koreans ans Americans as well. However, I dare you to study and look into Korean history pre-1910, and find out how true my statements are in regards to the state of the Korean economy and its government before 1910 and way further back to feudal times.

    I’ll mention this again: History is written by the victors. The victors may either create a lie or say the truth. The destiny of the losers are in the victor’s hands.

    Eye witness testimony may not always be accurate either. I dare you to cross reference the testimonies of any war victim with information from military and government databases. Sometimes, what they say will not match up with the databases. This is because if a person is not interviewed as early as possible, the information in their head becomes distorted.

    You dare say I am ignorant and that I am not interested in what you have to say. This is wrong. Only a social justice warrior would say that. I for once am I not interested in who is right or wrong, more on the lines of, “what is the truth?” I am only interested in discussion and gaining further information on various topics of controversial issues. I am not afraid to voice unpopular opinion, and I expect everyone to respect my opinion and further add on or suggest corrections to what I have to say.

    People can only learn if they discuss and converse. You will only be forever ignorant if you only listen to what you only want to believe in or listen to. You MUST listen to unpopular or disagreeable information to further understand the world around you. That way, you can create your own conclusions and further your knowledge of the world.

    That is all I have to say. If you disagree with me, then I’m sorry, you’re just an ignorant child.

    PS. I’ll repeat it again. You can listen to a testimonial and assume it to be the truth, but you can only tell if it’s the truth or not if everything he or she says makes sense with other information cross referenced as well. This does not only applies to WWII, but with other historical events as well.

    If TFB wants to censor me by banning my account, then so be it. It simply means the world does not want a conversation. Just because others say it’s the “truth” doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the truth. How much reading and research have you done yourself to claim that something is the truth? Some historians spent 40 years researching one specific topic and their findings still have issues as of today. You and I have better things to do with life which is why the best way to understanding events in history is to share information with each other without resorting to violence or insult.

    • Doug Larsen

      I love how you you talk about “not resorting to insult”, in the same post where you state that disagreeing with anything you say can only mean your antagonist is an ignorant child. Oh sweet, delicious irony.

      That type of arrogance is only one-upped by your assertion that “you expect everyone to respect your opinion”…as if you comically think that by merely having an opinion, that opinion is owed respect. Sorry bubba, but that isn’t how the world works. Your opinion is owed nothing.

      I “get it”. You’re a Japanese nationalist and war crime apologist. You made that abundantly clear in your since-deleted, repulsive historical revisionism. You are what you are.

      But no, your opinions are not owed respect. Nor do I give them any. You’re just another yahoo on the Internet who thinks having a keyboard and an opinion is itself evidence of your sociological infallibility.

      Again, it would be cute if it wasn’t so pathetic.

      Cheers, Bubba.

      • I revised my comment 10 hours ago about the “not resorting to insult” part. I rewrote it as “If you disagree with everything I just said about exchanging information and etc.”

        Basically, if you disagree that I can not ask questions and provide my understanding of the flow of events and ask you what your opinion of is as well as your version of it, then aren’t you ignorant or wrong?

        Let me rephrase it again. I provide what I know and I want you to know what you think. However, you disagree with everything I say without giving me concrete proof. Therefore, why should I respect you or your opinion if you dismiss everything I said without providing any sort of evidence?

        If you can not respect the idea of exchange of information regardless of whether it’s an unpopular opinion or not, are you not ignorant?

        Differentiating opinions makes me a “war crime apologist” and a “nationalist?” Okay, so let me get this straight.

        If America lost past wars and they were the losers of war, your country and countrymen would be convicted of numerous war crimes by the victors of war. Over the years, you will find out errors and issues with the claims of the victors as well as those who give their testimony.

        I’m not a historian, but believing everything someone tells you without cross referencing what they say with other sources and information is a dangerous game. No matter what textbooks, history books, and documentaries say, there will always be errors within them. The problem is where they get the sources from.

        If you ever believe I am wrong, you can always provide your point of view by emailing me instead, but by dismissing me because you “assume” that I would not listen to you, is rather stupid.

        I do not “listen and believe.” I “listen and question.” I will repeat it again. I look at various sources and I listen to both the victors and losers. My friends are Chinese and Korean. Some of these friends are regular conservatives like you and the rest of the TFB community. However, my friends are willing to listen to my point of view and they do not automatically dismiss me as an apologist and liar. Instead, they provide their point of view and we exchange information and questions.

        It is irresponsible to assume everything is the truth without doing your own research. I think it is irresponsible to dismiss someone as a liar if you only read what the victors say and write.

        Not all foreign documents have been translated to English yet, so how are you so sure that the Western documents and the Korean documents translated to English are “undeniable facts?” Go ask yourself that.

        I just want to learn more about history and ask questions regardless of whether they are unpopular or not. I am not politically correct.

        One last thing. I want to know how much you know of Korea before 19th century. I dare you to do some basic research of Korea and the common people’s way of life and their living standards before Japanese annexation in 1910. I dare you to compare photographs of that era between Japan and Korea.

  • DeamonPark

    whats the KDECIF mean?