Found this photo posted with no context. It is speculated that these are demilled SCARs used by the military. You can see SCAR17 20 rd magazines and barrels with bottom rails. In the photo you can also make out AAC SCAR suppressors. There are a bunch of FNH ECP Flash Hiders. Those go for about $80 online and are somewhat hard to find as the only come on SBR barrel assemblies from FN. They are not a normal item that one can buy as an accessory from FN America.. What a shame. They could have made some money by neutering them if they were select fire then sell them off like in the CMP program or raffle them off like those M24 Sniper Rifles that Remington sold. A shame really. I suppose that is wishful thinking as the SCAR upper receiver is the registered firearm so they would not be able to be sold to private citizens if they were select fire. I died a little inside seeing this photo.



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  • Mike Smith

    A lot of those flash hiders are the 18T Flash Hiders we did for SCAR way back in the day. I see one silencer that could be a SCAR-SD silencer. The two silencers in the upper RH corner actually look like AAC MG-SD silencers for the 240/249.

    • Steve

      You are correct – the flash hiders in the image are not the ECP, but rather the early 18T AAC hiders. SCAR (17S) owners snap these up pretty quickly when they pop up online as they were quickly replaced with the 51T M.I.T.E.R. mount. Neither of which has a currently manufactured suppressor available…

  • Drew Coleman

    Couldn’t sell the receivers – according to the ATF, once a receiver is a machine gun it’s always a machine gun.

    • Even with that in mind, someone still has a lot of explaining to do.

      • Twilight sparkle

        Can’t sell the barrel either, barrels from machine guns are considered machine guns

        • Mojopin

          Please quote this in law, only lowers are considered machineguns , barrels for certain weapons are currently banned from importation and are demilled according to ATF regulations before importation . If the barrels are under 16 inches I could see them not wanting to release them and demilling them.

          • Twilight sparkle

            Well this would be a bit of a grey area since it’s probably already imported here, but you’re already aware of the atfs interpretation of 925(d)3 if you’re aware that barrels from non-importable get demilled before importation.

          • Stephen Paraski

            Then how is Apex selling Russian Aircraft cannons?

          • Ambassador Vader

            if you look at those barrels on apex, they are demilled.

          • Stephen Paraski

            That is because of Obama’s Executive Order.

          • J.T.

            Because they have been had their barrels and receivers cut with a torch to a point where they are considered having been destroyed by the ATF.

          • Stephen Paraski

            So why not “De-Milled” SCAR Kits? Plus the Magazines are legal in most of US.

        • Avid Fan

          Barrels are not machine guns. Machine guns are machine guns. Short barreled uppers are not machine guns. Full auto bolt carriers are not machine guns. Unless it is or was serialized to a machine gun it is not a machine gun.

  • Schnee

    I don’t think we’ll ever see demilled SCAR parts kits because (oversimplification follows) when I look at my SCAR 17, the receiver is really nothing more than an aluminum extrusion with the good stuff bolted on. The elegance of design is on par with that of the really great guns. Get one dude to have a die made up and have the same place that does your ladders run a few hundred feet of that extrusion. My guess is the stresses in there don’t require a fancy alloy. Anodize your gutter extrusion in monkey-vomit gold/brown, mill a few slots and voila!

  • Malthrak

    These guns cant be that old…why are they demilling and destroying all these items that wouldnt seem to be old enough to have worn out or be obsolete?

    • BattleshipGrey

      Even if the guns themselves have been damaged in explosions, not all the magazines can be that bad off. They could at least try to sell them off.

      • VTR1

        But that would make sense and we can’t have that

      • Malthrak

        One would think…but… :/

    • randomswede

      Here’s a best-case-scenario I dreamed up; these where range guns and have each seen more rounds than the beaches of Normandy on 1944-06-06, they are thus so thoroughly worn out that even the flash hiders are beyond rescue.

      This is how I’ll sleep better; until someone tells me the truth.

  • TVOrZ6dw

    I wonder what stories these rifles could tell.

  • forrest1985

    Scenes like this annoy me, why haven’t the government stripped these for parts and sold the eligible parts to consumers etc…the receivers i get but the rest? thats tax payers money so don’t they have an obligation to spend it wisely (hahaha laughing at myself)

    • Matt

      It is cheaper just to scrap them out.

      • JPH

        Easier to scrap as well. About 8 years ago the US Army was going thru and arming the OH-58D with M3 .50 Brownings, which are a cousin to the WW2 ANM3 .50 Browning. Redstone Arsenal headed up the program and received an unofficial phone call from the Anniston Army Depot that somewhere around 100 ANM2s were about to be demilled. These ANM3s were rebuilt in the 1950s and put into proper long term storage at Anniston and forgotten about. Redstone put in an official transfer request getting those ANM3s rebuilt them into M3s and put into use in Afghanistan. Those 100ish machine guns would’ve been easier to scrap if Anniston had had their way about it.

        • Tim Whitaker

          Way to go Team Redstone!

  • CommonSense23

    What a beautiful sight, except for the belt fed cans.

  • Big Daddy

    After shooting a SCAR 17 the other day my new motto is Scar 17 in 2017. I am saving my pennies for the rest of the year. To see this now really hurts. I couldn’t believe how little recoil the gun had. Yeah I could buy 2 M1As for that price but I was so impressed with the gun I gotta get one. The balance, the lack of recoil, the light weight for a semi .308. An amazing gun. Sure why not just destroy them, who cares the taxpayer paid for them no need to try and sell some parts and make some money back.

    • Nicholas C

      I am a SCAR17S fan boy. Shooting one at FNH 3Gun match showed me the light. I bought one and it is hands down my favorite rifle.

      • Big Daddy

        I begged my friend not to let me shoot. I gave in and said OK just 2 rounds……He gave me 3 and I feel in love of course I countered and let him shoot a full mag from my G41…ha ha, he loved it. But the 41 is much cheaper.

      • Pod

        Oddly enough, I’ve only shot the select-fire version of the SCAR 17. A range near me has one for rent, and it’s a hoot to use. I was worried about shooting .308 in full-auto, but man, I could do that all day. Made me an instant fan. In a perfect world I’d love to have the 17, but alas only the 17S is realistic right now…

    • AHill

      I shot a FA SCAR-H alongside a G3, a FAL and an AR10 and the difference is considerable. The SCAR is far more controllable and its recoil impulse is much softer. The FAL came second, the AR10 third and the G3 last in terms of controllability for anyone who was wondering.

      I would certainly now own a SCAR17 if they weren’t prohibited, I had to settle on an XCR M I am quite happy with. Someone else is retrying to import SCAR17s with a modified lower – I’m presuming one of the SR25 mag conversion ones so I might buy one then. Compared to my XCR it will be more out of want than any need as my XCRM is more or less equal in terms of “shootability” and ergonomics although a tad bit heavier.

      • Big Daddy

        I hate the G3, I carried one for a day in Germany.

        I never shot a FAL.

        17 in 17 is my motto now.

  • cwp

    Considering new SCAR 17 mags retail for about $40 apiece, it’s damn near criminal to just destroy them like that. Yeah, okay, they can’t sell off the receivers because machine guns, but the magazines, really?

    • Jay

      It’s how uncle Sam stays fat. After every war, they cut up everything, so they can ask for new crap when they come up with the next “enemy/threat”.

      • DIR911911 .

        endless wars = endless money . . . for somebody

  • Sam

    Chopped SCAR crap…. What’s the bad news

    • Jay

      This was made specially for you.

  • LazyReader

    Spending taxpayer money to make the weapons, taxpayer money to take the weapons, taxpayer money to bake the weapons, either way you’re burning through money.

  • Harry’s Holsters

    Leave it to our government to screw things up!

  • Roy G Bunting

    Could it not be FNs defect bin? Parts and guns that were tested and found unsafe or out of spec too far to fix. Perhaps suppressors that took a baffle hit and are now easier to scrap then repair?

    • Jay

      Those look like well used up parts. That got to be some government agency or military unit making room for new crap…keeping the military industrial complex well fed with new tax money.

  • Jay

    This looks like the government “saving tax payer’s money”.
    I doubt the company would cut those up.
    What was the military budget for last year? That’s how they keep the budgets going up from year to year.

    Congratulation. You get the governments you deserve.

  • Bacon Chaser

    Demilling the receivers, I understand. But the barrels with the MITER muzzle device, the suppressors and magazines could fetch a very tidy sum for the US government in the secondary market.

  • toms

    Why didn’t they a) give to police, 2) give to a friendly ally, or 3) put em in ready reserves. WTF the waste in the name of PC bullshit is staggering. Just imagine the number of demilled rounds crushed for no reason.

    • Robert Harper

      No, you don’t want to think about how much good ammo gets “wasted,” or any of the other waste that happens within the DOD.

  • Sasquatch

    Looking at this photo makes me want to slap someone…..

  • Gary Kirk

    Could it possibly be like auto manufacturers, they make a few prototypes for testing and evaluation. And then those must be destroyed. Could this just be a photo of the original batch of testing rifles produced, that are/had to be destroyed?

  • RICH

    It makes you want to cry ! Thank you…… Politicians and Government A——S !

  • ZF

    As a SCAR lover this makes my heart wrench in agony. Why must good guns die such painful deaths?

  • Audie Bakerson

    This kind of waste, the murder of Brian Terry, and just plain old being unconstitutional: Why haven’t you contacted your candidates asking them to pledge NFA repeal?

  • Volk

    Actually can’t seem to summon the outage the other commenters have. Lord only knows what random patch of desert these guns were in. Transporting guns is not a simple task and neither is importing them back into the US then organizing then into an inventory to sell to a distributer. I have no doubt that the process would have been slower and more expensive than the natural FN production to consumer process.

    I’m down for banging on about government waste and incompetence but ultimately there is a reason things are destroyed and abandoned and it’s not spite or conspiracy. It just doesn’t make any financial sense.

    • Jay

      Bullshit.
      It’s about getting new contracts for their buddies in the industry, who in turn, promise the gelerals shares, or jobs after they retire from military.
      The whole system is rotten and you are just covering for them.

      • Rock or Something

        In the whole scheme of things, I doubt there is much financial graft for procurement of new SCAR-17s.

        In this case, the more likely answer is that a government bureaucrat in the bowels of the Pentagon made a decision to destroy some “old military hardware” because they don’t want to fall into the hands of the civilian and be held liable for making a “bad” decision.

        I always say, I don’t attribute conspiracy when incompetency will more than suffice.

        Still a shame regardless.

  • Jack Demiler

    Poor African could’ve eaten those gun

  • Agent_Orange

    A damn shame…

    I’ve currently logged over 10,500+ rounds on my SCAR 16S and 8,900+ on the 17S. They run exceptionally well and the 17S almost nullifies the existence of the 16S (except for the cheaper ammo) for what it’s capable of doing. They are by far my favorite firearms in my collection. I think when they finally die they will find a resting place on the mantle… not the chopping bin.

  • wjkuleck

    Gentlefolk, please keep in mind that our current government’s executive branch, most particularly including the un-elected, unrestrained regulation-writers are extreme hoplophobes. We taxpayers/voters/citizens must be protected from our deviant compulsion to possess these instruments of evil. Consequently, weapons (and their components), however desirable, valuable and useful to us enemies of an ordered society, must be destroyed at every opportunity.

    And as for acquiring two M1As in lieu of a SCAR 17S, my latest M1A (CQB) cost just at 2K, delivered and transferred. My 17S, admittedly lightly used, cost 2.5K. I suppose you can find the base M1A for 1250 somewhere, but it would be apples and kumquats.

  • Dougboffl

    Military warranty claims? Armory makes a “defective claim” with FNH about some already researched or known issue(s): maybe magazines with mal-formed feed lips or won’t lock in, loose gas blocks that scored the barrels, a poorly threaded muzzle device or barrel, etc. So FNH says, “We are already aware of the issue(s). Scrap the assembly (physically and on paper) & (maybe) ship them to us or (maybe) send us a pic and dispose of them. Replacements are on the way”. Armorers don’t break down parts groups to the smallest component cause then there would be an issue of labor involved with a warranty claim. So the military puts a torch to the assemblies (de-milling) and can then ship the box as common scrap metal back to FNH or give it to the FNH Rep to hand deliver to the recycler. FNH has such a good deal going with the military contract they don’t want to upset the client (government armorers) over a few bad apples, so warranty claims are a non-issue. The armorers replace “we broke it” individual components, like magazine springs, housings or followers and don’t scrap parts groups as shown in the pic. Warranty assemblies get scrapped unless it is a new (unique) issue that FNH wants to see the particular parts group for research. So theses were not machine guns or viable parts groups or even worth FNH examining for QA/R&D. These are defective scrap metal that slipped through FNH’s QA. I would bet our military compiles a box like that every few months or less.

  • myndbender

    Even if the barrels or cans were shot out, that’s an easy & relatively cheap replacement. Typical federal waste, fraud & abuse. Just shows how little the taxpayer matters to ppl who allow this to happen.

  • SeeThroughYou

    Your tax payer dollars pissed away by a deranged junta…

  • Ben

    I’m going to think good thoughts and assume these were part of a destructive testing program before they were torched. If you look at some of the parts they have damage not made by a torch.

  • JSIII

    I wonder if the guy who had those 4 magazines in a kit on his chest lived. It looks like he either got clipped with an RPG or some kind of incendiary round based on the melting we see and the signs of some kind of fire or heat deformation.

    Hopefully it just set his vest on fire and he got it off quick.

    • Suppressed

      They cut the mags/guns/parts up with torches.