R and R Targets – The Wright 12, new Shotgun

I know Robert Wright of R and R Targets since the World Shoot Shotgun 2012 (Debrecen, Hungary) where we stayed in the same hotel and competed. For a little more than a week we did our best to smash down steel targets and clays as fast as we could. I remember we had so many issues with the local ammunition, jamming ourselves through the match.

In 2015 we met again, in Italy, for the World Shoot Shotgun 2015 and repeated the story, but at least I stayed away from any jams. I guess and I hope I’ll see him again in France 2018 for the same reason.

I’m sure Robert had his dream ready already in 2012, but it was not until 2015 he showed our party the first drawings of his new creation at a local Pizzeria.

He’s been working on the project for almost 4 years. I’ve seen bits and pieces, a picture here or there, but nothing quite enough for an article. Until now, and it bears his name.

If we look at who’s on the Podium in the large IPSC Shotgun matches most if not all shooters use modified Saiga or Molot shotguns.(It could be different for 3 Gun in the USA, I don’t know it well enough.)

But the dream to get an AR-based style shotgun has always been there. Many have tried. And failed.

Do you remember the Rhino Arms AR-10 shotgun, for instance?

I tried the Akdal, but we didn’t like each other very much. So I sold it but only after I spent a fortune on modifications and “upgrades”.

It will be very interesting to see what the upcoming Wright 12 will be like, and it shouldn’t be far away from release.

New extruded handguards are in the making and should be ready in about 7-8 weeks. They will be set up for M-LOK.

The magazines will be R and R’s own. The mold for the magazines should be done in about 8 weeks. A brave decision, but if it works you don’t have to rely on getting parts through customs, blockades etc.

The receivers are in machining. As you can see they have Left Hand Charge, an important feature in a shotgun competition.

Another 250 rounds through the Prototype. That brings the total to over seven hundred rounds so far.

The bolt looks like it’s from a Saiga, and it looks – and I hope it will – as if the trigger will be AR compatible. That would be a very nice Russian-American marriage.

One question is if the receiver has to be split in two for the bolt to come out for cleaning? That would be a disadvantage in my opinion.

I only have these pictures to judge by, but doesn’t it look like the Picatinny rail is split in two as well?

Below: New magazine release for the Wright 12. It’s 7/8 of an ounce lighter than the first one. I haven’t seen or felt the Wright 12 in the flesh, but I think weight may be an issue so the more that can be shaved of the better.

R and R Targets foto.

I shot my first R and R Targets shotgun in 2010, but I already had a (somewhat) working Molot Vepr 12 then and didn’t change. The shotgun below was on the podium (senior open) at the World Shoot 2015.

But the dream for many is to get a working AR-based shotgun. The Akdal 1919, upgraded, pictured below.

Below: Molot Vepr 12, just as the hot shell ejects. Shotguns like to spit fire and GoPro cameras can be turned the other way for great photos.

This is an example of what the current Saiga based R n R shotguns look like. Note the mid-barrel compensator.

TFB will be following this project as it emerges, and I really hope the Wright 12 will be successful.



Eric B

Ex-Arctic Ranger. Competitive practical shooter and hunter with an European focus. Always ready to increase my collection of modern semi-automatic firearms, optics and sound suppressors. Owning the night would be nice too.


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  • KestrelBike

    Wow, looks great!

    • BattleshipGrey

      I just threw up a little bit after seeing the pink and olive drab version though.

  • Johnsmyname

    Neat, I want to see a video of a mag dump!

    • Nashvone

      And subsequently, the MRI of the shooter’s shoulder?

      • Sianmink

        Semiauto shotguns are pretty soft shooting, especially compared to pumps.
        My Saiga12 doesn’t hurt at all to shoot (though high velocity slugs will shove you around some!)

  • TDog

    Are “new” and “based upon established designs” synonyms? ‘Cause that thing looks like a Saiga-12 to me.

    • Eric B

      Look at the Wright 12 vs. the Saiga again. They are not the same. The post has several examples.

    • It uses AR trigger groups and an operating principle similar to the Saiga. The carrier is simplified and smoothed out, and the operating rod is a seperate lighter piece. I can’t be sure, but I think the gas block has a self adjusting poppet valve integral. (Which is the obvious evolution that should be integrated into saigas.)

  • Malthrak

    I would ask “why?” given the hyper tuned Saigas and stellar out of the box Vepr’s that are already options, until I remembered that Saigas and Molot Vepr shotguns are all now something of an issue to obtain in the US…

    • Kalashnikov USA’s ~ Saiga clone looks good so far. It’s early to assess durability, but it appears to be better made than the disappointing Chinese clones.

      • salty

        the metal looks good, the polymer looks like tacti-fudd krap

    • salty

      because sig brace…. PGO only firearm…. wiiiiiiiiiinning!!! price is prob gonna be a limiting factor for me though….

  • valorius

    I’d definitely wait til this design was on the market for at least 3-4 years before buying one. If the project goes under magazines would be unobtanium.

  • I was wondering when TFB would finally pick up on this and the upcoming Chaos offering. Instead, they keep fawning over that origin POS and adkal variants as though they are the only things on the market.

    • Blake

      It sounds like they are since the two options you mentioned are not a reality yet.

      • But they ignored the existence of Saigas and Veprs for years, as well as inferior yet available systems such as Adkal 1919/ BR99 and various rebrands of those, and crappy chinese Catamount Fury. Sadly the DDI12 chinese gun came out about on par with the catamounts, and is now sold under some other name. I know at one point I compiled a list of at least 10 models of box fed semi autos which were available for less than a grand which would be fairly reliable with 2 3/4″ ammo at retail quantities in the US market last year. I would take any of those over the origin or the various proprietary ammo, more or less beta trials versions of the AR upper things they have hyped over the years.

  • Audie Bakerson

    But will it look sexy in brown with an M203 and eotech?

  • Brett baker

    Will there be a right-hand charge for us lefties?

  • Haulin’ Oats

    I have no idea what the R&R costs, but the Rhino Arms shotgun is $5000!

    And for that kind of cash, I’d rather have a Fostech Origin 12, Molot Vepr, or Standard Manufacturing SKO semi-auto shotgun. Heck i could probably get all 3 and have a few dollars left over for ammo.

  • jamezb

    Well. it looks like a clean design, If function matches form, this is nice!

  • DW

    With this kind of construction we can forget field stripping. But I imagine it will be a dream to repair/work on since the construction is quite simple and straightforward.

  • Sianmink

    I like the looks of that Wright 12. I’ll be paying attention to its development.

    Personally I’d like to see it made so it accepts Vepr or AK12 magazines. It’s okay if I have to mod them slightly.