Pakistani POF tentative plans to produce CZ 807

Pakistan Ordnance Factory (POF), the state owned small arms, light weapons, and ammunition manufacturer has entered into negotiations and a Letter of Understanding to locally produce the CZ 807 rifle, in 7.62x39mm for a Pakistani Army contract, understandably replacing POF’s currently produced under license G3s and Type 56s. This is resulting from a year long process the Pakistani Army has undergone to fielding a new infantry rifle. Original contenders were Zastava, FN Herstal, Beretta, and CZ, among others. From what we see so far, the CZ 807 has been apparently chosen, with the results from the recent International Defense Exhibition & Seminar Exposition 2016 (IDEAS Expo 2016) being held in Karachi.

From Radio Pakistan

CeskaZbrojovka, Czech Republic and Pakistan Ordnance Factories declared that they will intensively negotiate a delivery of complete technology for the production of small arms to Pakistan Ordnance Factories, POF. Mutual interest refers to gradual launching of production in Pakistan, ranging from light assembly to maximum localization of production. Within this cooperation, transfer of technology as well as technical support including technical training of the personnel for Pakistan Ordnance Factories is expected.

Manufacturing the rifle locally makes much more sense for Pakistan in the long run. However, similar to their G3s and Type 56s, this will commit the government to the design because it will be a financial burden to change rifles and manufacturing if the CZ 806 should not turn out well as hoped. More surprising than the choice of rifle, is the choice of caliber, in 7.62x39mm. Many NATO member origin rifles have 7.62x39mm as an option, but this is clearly lead on by a need within Special Operations communities to have the ability of converting or using a 7.62x39mm rifle to utilize battlefield pick ups of ammunition in the field. For Pakistan this is also a cost cutting initiative, as 7.62x39mm is already produced by POF for the Army’s Type 56 license produced copies. Interestingly, Pakistan is almost skipping the 5.56x45mm/5.45x39mm adoption by a number of modern militaries in the past several decades, and instead hasn’t left the intermediate cartridge usage. One could see this as very wise, if militaries move towards a .300 BLK or similarly heavier 5.56x45mm cartridge in the future.

From Quwa Defense News & Analysis Group

Pakistan selecting the CZ-806 BREN 2 would not be surprising. Among the options studied, the BREN was, presumably, among the more affordable options (at least in comparison to the FN SCAR), especially if the intention was to issue the rifle to the entirety of the Pakistan Army’s regular infantry.

However, considering that it was the 7.62x39mm version that was evaluated, it is unclear if the BREN was being examined in relation to the 7.62x51mm G-3, for which the FN SCAR-H and Beretta ARX-200 were tagged as leading next-generation candidates. But if POF is seeking a production contract with CZ, it is possible that the Army has opted to shift the mainstay of its future rifle distribution to 7.62x39mm The fact that POF recently opened a production site for 7.62x39mm rounds suggests that 7.62x39mm will play a central role in the Army’s infantry doctrine. In this scenario, a 7.62x51mm rifle such as the SCAR could still be sought, but as a smaller off-the-shelf purchase (without a production element at POF).



Miles

Infantry Marine, based in the Midwest. Specifically interested in small arms history, development, and usage within the MENA region and Central Asia. To that end, I run Silah Report, a website dedicated to analyzing small arms history and news out of MENA and Central Asia.

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  • somedingus

    The guy in the picture looks pretty nonplussed about being photographed. I wonder what the context is there?

    • TDog

      As everyone else is just hanging back with the truck, he probably drew the short straw to make the beer run.

    • Graham2

      The guy at the front just remembered his mate behind him has a dreadful trigger discipline!

    • Dougscamo

      He looks pissed….interesting that you are using Eastern side of the pond version of nonplussed….as are TDog and Graham….
      Not grammar police operating on my end as I find the comments pretty funny (and using the word correctly) ….so if you are, Pissed is angry on the Western side….not drunk….

      • Graham2

        I thought he looked as if he’d just remembered something that bothered him, not drunk and yes, I’m in England.

        • Dougscamo

          “2 countries divided by a common language”…..

    • ItalianAmerican

      Indeed, he looks angry. But added to that – among trigger fingers and other amenities – they all look like the low-life scums they are.

  • TDog

    And meanwhile, on the other side of the border, India is trying to find out new and exciting ways to screw up the AK-47 even more!

    • Halz

      It’s because a huge chunk of their money goes towards big budget items they will very likely never use. More money in kickbacks for large aircraft deals than for small arms unfortunately.

  • Anonymoose

    Send those G3s over as parts kits, please. <3

    • Major Tom

      If they are parts kits, they better secretly contain the parts to retain full-auto.

  • Khonjel Singh

    I just had a thought. Can they retrofit the BRENs to use AK mags instead of STANAG?

    • The Bren 2 uses a sleeve to covert the magazine well from 7.62x39mm to 5.56x45mm. However, it uses the same AR15-style magazine catch for both calibers.

  • RSG

    Is this the same POF that we buy here? The ones that come with an American flag on every dust cover? I just saw an interview with the “owner”, and he looked American as apple pie.

    • The US POF used to get HK parts kits from the Pakistani POF.

      • Miniguinea

        They did until that region of the world was not a great place to go to anymore

    • Miniguinea

      No, they are not the same company.

  • ??

    This seems to be the only picture of the 806 Bren 2 in 7.62x39mm ?????? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/077774b1bbe586f2fb7e6732e146573d33dbfac29dca1837010cd3bc3a0d58b0.jpg

  • Harry’s Holsters

    Does this mean CZ will be making them for us? Or is there a chance POF will be allowed to export?

    I really would like a military non AK 7.62×39.

    • Halz

      POF does export to the US. This would definitely be a huge boon for them if they exported to the US civilian market, but they will first fill local requirements first before doing so. May take a few years at least.

  • John

    Interesting. Well done CZ. That’s a rather significant business deal, and will force India to majorly up their acquisition game.

    Pakistan probably kept 7.62 like Vietnam did; they’ve got tens of millions of rounds already in stock, why mess with it? The new magazine is a nice touch, and in addition to decreasing a soldier’s load slightly, tells a lot of people Pakistan is ready to fight.

  • Zarwan Ali

    These Rifles will only replace Type 56 not G3 for G3 talks are still taking place and most likely SCAR would win that deal.

  • John Doe

    I am sorry guys, but this is bullshit. CZ lost in the trials completely. FN and Beretta won. And there is one more unexpected winner. I am not allowed to give more information, but you will see and remember what I have said.

    • cssddd

      Belgium and Italy are too politically hot right now, also unlike the others, CZ platform always had multicalibre in mind, so more mature platform.

  • Herschel Walker

    More affordable and, from what I can tell, superior in almost every way to any other assault rifle on the market. Good move.

  • Richard Lutz

    Adopt the G3K

    Pray tell what is wrong with the HK416 which is far more popular and proven than the CZ 806? Why not stick with the 7.62mm G3 which only weighs about 1.25-lbs more and is far better at penetrating cover than those 5.56mm rifles? Better yet, why not adopt the G3K which only weighs about 0.25-lbs more than those 5.56mm rifles when fitted with the light fixed polymer buttstock (or a light polymer folding stock like those made by B&T).

    When I play Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 I use the G3K due to its combination of penetration, rapidity of fire, and the ability to fit an optical sight and sound suppressor in a relatively compact package. The 7.62 NATO round can be optimized for use in the short 12.4″ G3K barrel by using a fast burning gun powder the provides close to the same performance as you get with the standard round fired from the 17.7″ G3 barrel.