AKs among U.S. Police Departments

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The AR15 has an extremely large following among U.S. police officers, probably arming the overwhelmingly vast amount of arsenals out there. Of course, with the exception of the Mini 14 armed cops down in San Berdinio during that tragic shooting. However, for those interested, the Kalashnikov platform does have a small following in some departments. This was brought to my attention by the Facebook page of Krebs Custom, which posted some pictures of cops from the North Slope Borough Police Department in the extremely far northern part of Alaska. At first I thought it was a typical fan picture with a bunch of the cops posing with their favorite personal AKs, maybe it was the AK friend group in that department. But upon further investigation, contacting Krebs, and contacting one of the commanding officers in that department, I confirmed that the police officers do indeed use AK rifles in 7.62x39mm as their duty/patrol rifles. They favor them much more over the AR platform due to the ability to operate in the extreme cold climates that they are working in. In addition to the terminal effects on large animals that they need to sometimes deal with. If you need any confirmation of this, simply take a look at some of these guys at their shooting range, it looks like the edge of the earth with the snow in the background! However, much to Krebs credit, not all the rifles are Krebs products:

AK Patrol Rifles and U.S. Police Officers serving in the United State’s most northern city. Awesome!

A nice assortment of Krebs Custom Guns, Destructive Devices Industries, East German, Arsenal, Saiga. Stay safe out there guys and thank you for your support! Good to hear you are loving the AC-15™ Mod2.

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After doing some forum reading online, I’ve come across some posts that said the following police departments have AKs in their armories. But I’ve searched for images from the departments and couldn’t find any AKs in use. So if anyone can confirm or deny that these departments use AKs, that’d be an interesting find, in addition to possibly listing other departments that do use them.

Marshal County Police, Alabama

Glacier County Sheriff’s Dept, Montana

Ventura County Sheriff’s Dept, California, as featured in this article.

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  • http://i.imgur.com/DXkLvT2.gif

    Also, here’s some more stuff on AKs and ice, including a link to the Alaska State Troopers rifle test of the 1980s.

    • Joshua

      Yeah, the test where they poured a cup of water into the action of a rifle and let it freeze.

      Biased test is biased.

      • Justin Roney

        You realize they are all probably wearing 3-4 layers of winter clothing, right? I lived in North Dakota for three years and even that isn’t as extreme as Alaska. You have to wear several layers or you freeze to death trying to do anything outside.

        • Joshua

          No. Layers of clothes don’t make your gut stick and give you a beer belly.

          They increase your size proportionally as the layers….layer equally.

          • iksnilol

            They look like average Americans to me.

            I don’t see what’s so weird.

          • Joshua

            Well 2/3 of Americans are overweight/obese….so average is correct.

          • redsr

            +1. Those cops in the first pic aren’t obese. Look at the arms on the guys I’m assuming you’re calling fat, one of whom is pushing 6′ 5″ or so… Clearly, you don’t know any division 1 college football linemen… Fit isn’t necessarily skinny…

            Only the last pic w/ the AA dude would I put a person in the pudgy category.
            Also worth considering the inuit/eskimo body frame as well — fat is key to survival in those climatic conditions.

          • Uniform223

            I’m not defending “piggish cops” but just because they look husky doesn’t mean they aren’t strong as a freaking bear. Back in the days when I was younger and going through BCT our company CO was a BIG GUY. At first I thought he was “fat” until he did PT with us and smoked us all into the ground. I’ve never seen short legs move so fast in my life and I have a rather decent stride.
            All I am saying is that sometimes looks can be deceiving.

            http://dogbrothers.com/kostas/Spirit_of_the_Green_Beret.jpg
            Imagine if you just saw that guy walking around in a mall in his civies…

          • Former Deputy

            Have you ever worn body armor (probably at least a Level 3A) under your uniform?

          • darthrex354

            I was going to say, kevlar has a weird effect of making people look fatter than it should, and then on top of that they are probably wearing 3 layers and then tac gear..

      • iksnilol

        No offense but how is the test biased if they did that to all the rifles?

      • It was a pint, and yes, I’d expect a freezing water test to involve freezing water.

        I think tests like these (including debris tests) are very difficult to control, but the AST test didn’t seem any more flawed or biased to me than any other test of this kind. And, apparently, its results are somewhat reproducible, too.

      • bucherm

        North Slope of Alaska? Some look like Alaskan Natives, who are gonna be bigger no matter what. If they can pass the PFT, who cares?

      • Cmex

        Well, Joshua, someone could have to deal with rivers or lakes in Alaska, or even just end up with snow in a rifle which then melts and freezes. Best to test for a worst case scenario, no?

    • redsr

      Was going to post that AK galil test, but you beat me to it.
      Also worth considering in Alaska, cops have to shoot moose, grizzly and the like as well — long arms are not just for human threats. The 7.62×39 vs 5.56 dimension in addition to just reliablity discussed here…
      Several US police departments had micro-galils at various points in time as well, though w/ piston-ars and bullpups being reliable now (and cheaper) in severely SBR configurations, the AK/variants proliferation in special tactics type units is becoming less…

  • BattleshipGrey

    I’ve always thought the AK would be a good patrol rifle. I probably would’ve carried mine if they would’ve let me. However, the conservatives would probably throw the biggest fit if they saw “one of those commie rifles” having an active part in protecting and serving.

    Image and politics aside, I think the x39 round has great ballistics for a patrol rifle. I’m glad to see some departments using them.

    • iksnilol

      I also imagine that weight of ammo is less of a concern for police considering you aren’t saddled with all the equipment soldiers are?

    • John

      Tacticool it up and they wont be able to tell it’s an AK.

      I took my girlfriend out shooting a couple time and she decided she likes to shoot the AR the best. The other day I was looking at a picture of a PPS-43 and she was like hey! it’s that gun I like to shoot!

  • VTR1

    I’d venture that the Ventura County dept are only using them for the SWAT teams as shown in that article. My bud is a regular patrol guy there and I’ve heard nothing of AK/Galil types for the rank and file. Would be neat though.

    • Garrett Nln

      Demi auto ARs are the norm for patrol, if you’ve qualified. Otherwise just an 870 with slugs.

  • NoNamesOnTheNet

    Personally, I enjoy seeing this because it shows that somebody out there is enough of a critical thinker as to find a different solution than shoe-horning an AR into a solution.

    We all love ARs, but few of us have the exact same requirements. So why try and use the exact same rifle?

    • Bob

      Daewoo K2 would be a far better rifle. Alas they are no longer imported.

    • Jwedel1231

      If it wasn’t an AR I’d be 100% in agreement, but aren’t ARs the most modular rifle platform out there? And I mean ‘platform’ as in you can literally jump off the standard AR into an endless sea of options to customize it to your exact need.

      • NoNamesOnTheNet

        Because of compromises. Modularity goes hand in hand with compromise.

        If I need a short OAL, then I have to reduce the barrel length, gas system length, and either reduce muzzle velocity or change calibers to one which is more effective from said short barrel — or, simply run a bullpup offering like a Tavor.

        If I need absolute reliability in harsh conditions, why not start with a platform with the most proven record of simply working? The manual of arms will obviously differ, but that’s why we train incessantly on the weapon. As I’ve alluded to in other posts, my organization has very specific requirements and in our case an AR pattern rifle simply does not fit our needs–as modular as it is. I’m sure that the agency in this article went through a very in depth analysis of thier needs and concluded the same.

        That’s the difference between using a weapon as a tool versus toy. It becomes a question of what we need to work versus what we want to work. (Like the M45A1 vs G19 situation in MEUSOC.)

        • Scott P

          Thank you for your insight and I agree with your post. The AR isn’t the end-all, be-all of rifles because people are too afraid, lazy, or insecure to get out of their comfort zone to find that there are better options out there for different tasks.

          • NoNamesOnTheNet

            To be absolutely honest, if I was purchasing for an agency, I’d wholesale issue MP7s.

            You can wear on a thigh right–effectively replacing a sidearm and have immediate access to it (unlike a patrol rifle). You’d be compromising in terms of usability as compared to a handgun but you’d have overwhelming firepower when you do deploy it.

          • iksnilol

            #PP2000MasterRace instead IMHO.

          • John

            >I’d wholesale issue MP7s… You
            can wear on a thigh right–effectively replacing a sidearm and have immediate access to it (unlike a patrol rifle).

            I kind of take issue with that. You may as well issue the MP5 or any similar submachine gun with police operating in areas where a full rifle isn’t really needed (like a city.) They’ll take the same ammunition as their service pistols while providing a necessary firepower upgrade

  • Jim B

    Using the AK to solve their problem seems like a good choice. The only thing wrong with the AK is it has crappy sights. Slap an optic on them and they are good to go.

    • Bill

      …and keep the optic outside, otherwise condensation will coat the lenses and you’ll be looking thru an ice cube.

    • Tom

      You can get peep sights for the AK. Sure you will have a shorter sight radius but considering the problems of optics in arctic conditions it might well be considered an acceptable trade off.

      • Scott P

        Or get some Techsights that extend the line of sight to the end of the dustcover with AR-like adjustments.

        Of course I have no problem using the original sights.

        • Tom

          Sure are plenty of options now for the AK users out there.

  • Bill

    I once fielded a question from a LE agency located in the Arctic – their holsters were freezing and breaking during qualifications at like -30 F. All I could suggest was going back to leather rigs instead of synthetics and plastics.

    • anonymous

      “is the NBPD expecting a visit from ISIS or the Sinaloa Cartel”

      Vampires. Didn’t you ever see “30 Days of Night”?

      • koko

        “Salafist Sinaloan Bloodsuckers” would make neat title for a B movie.

    • John

      >I appreciate PERSEC as much as the next guy, but is the NBPD expecting a visit from ISIS or the Sinaloa Cartel?

      Bears and moose, among other Alaskan animals. The sad fact is that animal attacks up there are not uncommon. It’s the primary purpose for Alaskan cops to carry rifles around.

      Meth addicts are a second concern.

  • Joe Moore

    My department allows pretty much whatever, one guy carries an M1A SOCOM, but the rest use AR15s. If someone wanted to use an AK, they could. I’d prefer a .300Blk AR though.
    Are AKs actually better in extreme cold than ARs though?

    • Joshua

      Not really. Plenty of M4s and M16s have been in arctic conditions and they work fine.

      The AK does have a leg up however if you want to put cup of water in the action and freeze it solid. Realistically though? Not really.

      • Giolli Joker

        Weapon falling in a river?
        Wrong lubricant?

        • NightRavenGSA

          any lubricant at all. from what I’ve read, the recommendation is to remove the lube from your gun in extreme low temps. though I imagine that a good synthetic motor oil in the 0W range would work fine. Thank god for artificial dinosaur squeezings

          • iksnilol

            I wouldn’t recommend any oil… use grease, thin layer of it.

      • Joshua Knott

        Dude Ive read all your comments, lemme say your slightly misguided. Tighter tolerences being the in the AR during the coldest of the cold will lockup the bcg and charging handle easily. Ak’s dont have that problem, now in a jungle environment I will be one to say I’ll take the ar as the gas system actually helps blow mud out of the chamber, dust cover etc, whereas in the snow that sheet doesnt matter at all.

        • Mystick

          …right up until that mud gets baked into the gas vent and it stops cycling, you know… like the -16 did in Vietnam before the troops were taught to basically wrap it in plastic during patrols.

          • Joshua Knott

            hahah, that can happen yes but we’re also talking about some major PSi going through that gas tube. Real reason why the m-16 did so bad during those early years was due to the surplus stick powder left over from WW2, Korea, (corrosive primers)for loading 556 nato. Stuff ran so dirty it clogged the guns and the mud just made it that much worse when it all baked in. (mcnamarra was an idiot for trying to save costs on chrome lined chambers and bcg’s) As soon as we went to ball powder and the chromed parts things changed drastically. Each platform has their advantages.

          • NightRavenGSA

            Well, they were also told they never needed to clean the darn things… which isn’t necessarily untrue in certain environments, however Indo-China is not one of those

      • sean

        Take any AR from room temperature to below freezing and shoot it with no problems…you wont be able to. That’s what went wrong with the HK416 and the Norwegian.

      • iksnilol

        I dunno, it doesn’t seem that unrealistic scenario to me. I mean, rain/snow can get into the rifle, condensation can gather as well… or you could get it into water (either dropping it or falling in water).

        I’ve seen rifles frozen solid due to condensation. Knowing your patrol rifle can handle that should you be unlucky/uncareful enough is nice.

    • Ebby123

      I could see an argument made that out-of-the-box the AK is more cold weather friendly.

      I think an AR would need an enlarged charging handle latch (GI latch is NOT glove friendly) and an enlarged trigger guard. Also the AK safety is probably a little easier to feel is crack on and off when your hands are numb than an AR selector.

      Just a thought… I’d personally still prefer the AR.

  • Dr. Buchenrad

    Now I’m definitely an AR guy, but I very much respect and probably agree with their choice to use aks (though Id be very interested in knowing how the m14 platform performs in cold weather). The ar can be adapted to do well enough in many situations, but it’s definitely not the ultimate machine for all things a gun can do.

  • PK

    “Glacier County Sheriff’s Dept, Montana” and I can add the Gallatin County Sheriff’s department as well.

    I can confirm having seen deputies from both departments at the range training with AKs along with MP5s, ARs (both -10 and -15), and other systems. Whether that means the AK is in regular use or it was familiarization only is unclear.

  • Richard McIntyre

    I believe the availability of corrosive ammo, which performs well in subzero temps, may be part of the reason for selecting the AK as well as the 30 Cal ballistics.

  • Drunk Possum

    San Berdinio? You mean San Bernardino..

  • David

    “Ventura County Sheriff’s Dept, California”

    That’s a Micro Galil pictured, not an AK/AKM pattern rifle. Still a “not-AR” and definitely a cool addition to the article, but I wouldn’t group it with the others who are using full on AKM pattern rifles
    Yes, I know I’m going to get plenty of “Well the Galil is a clone” blah blah blah. Derivative, sure. Clone, nah.

    • Alexandru Ianu

      “Yes, I know I’m going to get plenty of “Well the Galil is a clone” blah blah blah. Derivative, sure. Clone, nah.”

      It’s true that they’re not clones, but they’re still AK variants. Derivatives change the gas/locking mechanism – the Galil (Original/Micro/ACE) is a milled AK variant.

      • David

        I agree, but I don’t know where the line goes between derivative / variant goes. the CZ75 uses the same operating method and link system as the Browning HiPower, but I don’t think you it is nessecarily correct to call it either. The same could be true for the FN FNC and SIG 55x family which use Kalashnikov-style gas systems and bolts.

    • iksnilol

      Uh, the Galil is an AK.

      Or are any ARs with some proprietary parts not ARs anymore.

      • David

        Comparing the Galil/AK relationship to an AR is not even close. With the sheer modularity of it you can have a standard lower with an all proprietary upper and people will still call it an AR. Change the gas system and people still call it an AR. “Some proprietary parts” in such a modular system is very different than being an entirely different gun that shares the majority of the gas system design.

        By your logic, that makes the FNC and SIG 550 family also just “AK’s with proprietary parts”.
        There is no denying that they are variants/derivatives of the AK, but they are not AK’s themselves.

        • iksnilol

          Not really.

          Galil shares most of the parts with the AK. Only thing really different about it is the peep sights, handguard and the way the gas tube is attached… ooh, and that upswept charging handle.

        • Tritro29

          The Sig 55x is an AK. Refined, but Just an AK. Yeah…for real.

    • Jwedel1231

      You might as well say that the Krebs guns in the article aren’t AKs since they weren’t built buy communists.

      • David

        Now you’re just being silly.

  • wetcorps

    “upon further investigation, contacting Krebs, and contacting one of the commanding officers in that department”
    Props to you for doing some actual research instead of just assuming things from the picture. I’d like to see this more often on TFB (or on most media, for that matter).

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    Good thing they blurred the faces on the guys from the North Slope Alaska PD.
    Ill bet ISIS is really gunning for them.

    • Vitsaus

      That was my first thought also. Tier 1 operations at the Krispy Kreme.

      • Jwedel1231

        Sounds like a Mattv2099 video. “Will it operate in a Krispy environment?”

    • Ebby123

      Eh.. I wouldn’t want my face out there, especially as it adds nothing to the story.
      Most likely there wasn’t time to get consent from everyone before sharing the photos, so it was simpler to blur the faces.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        I know I just think it looks funny like you see all those SEAL photos.

    • Mystick

      Reminds me of gang pictures…. showing off their “gats” and looking all puff-up bass-a$$.

    • Gorilla Biscuit

      The desert ice brigade of iSIS. The secret is out now.

    • Dan

      I wonder if they did it because of the nature of the photo? Not an official photo? Had an ER doctor freak out on my GF when she took a picture of her brother. She said she couldn’t appear in any photos unless it was for official use. So we showed her that her face wasn’t shown etc. Maybe the same thing here?

  • Raoul O’Shaugnessy

    Can’t speak for Glacier County, but many agencies in the state will let officers carry a POF (personally owned firearm) IF it is approved by the boss, IF the officer can qualify with it, and IF he releases the dept from any liability if it is damaged in the line of duty.

  • Tritro29

    Alaska looks like ready for a family reunion. In Soviet Alaska…etc.

    • Bob

      Or maybe they’re carrying AKs for logistics reasons if the commies invade through Alaska =p

      • Tritro29

        So they’re basically wating for the motherland to feed them when they make their run for WDC? Sounds fair…

    • iksnilol

      In Soviet Alaska… it is still cold cause you’re in friggin Alaska.

  • Anonymoose

    I think I’d rather have a (Saiga or Vepr) .308 to deal with bear encounters.

  • Cal S.

    You remember how gun writers (still) excoriated the .40 S&W in LEO hands because it’s higher recoiling than the 9mm and that could “produce disparate impact with female/older/smaller officers” and “Could cause problems with basic range qualification”? So higher recoil is bad in pistols but ‘A-okay’ in rifles? My, how easily we forget this rationale when it’s something that we agree with instead of hate.

    Queue the “I can handle the recoil better than an AR and if you can’t you’re just stupid” in 3…

    • Anonymoose

      Naw, we should go back to .45-70! Darn newfangled poodleshooters.

      • Paul White

        pshaw. 577 Martini Henri

        • iksnilol

          .69 smoothbore, boys. That’s a man’s gun.

          • Tom

            Not in a world where you can have a .75 cal Brown Bess. That’s a real man stopper unlike some piddly little .30 cal!

    • iksnilol

      AK recoil isn’t really something to complain about, I mean, stuff like AKs and ARs (basically anything in an intermediate caliber) barely recoils at all. That and 4 points of contact help versus the one on a pistol.

      #InNorwayTheRegularCaliberIs308AtLeastSoIMightBeBiased

      • Actually, 7.62x39mm AKs have quite enough recoil to be annoying for follow-up shots.

        It gets more ridiculous when you give them fun switches, too. They’re one of the more “fun” machine guns to shoot for me, and given my taste in NFA weapons that’s not really a compliment.

        You can tame them with a brake, but you can tame a 90mm tank gun with a brake, too.

        • iksnilol

          I dunno, I never found 3-5 round burts a problem.

          Sure, there’s stuff that recoils less and whatnot but I don’t really consider it problematic. Stuff like 308 on full auto, now that’s problematic (without a good bipod and stance).

          • Cmex

            Hush, Nat doesn’t like people disagreeing with him, especially if they have experience or knowledge that refutes whatever he’s claiming. You see, he’s one of those “I’m smart so I can’t be wrong” types who loves using math to back up his ideas, even if the theory doesn’t quite transition into reality.

          • iksnilol

            I like math (*shudder*) and scientific theories and whatnot. They’re kinda useful being the basis of our understanding of reality and whatnot. But I just never found somebody really complaining about AK recoil on full auto. I’ll admit, I am not a operator and whatnot, but I like to think I am not entirely clueless despite not having shot someone.

            To be honest I like Nathaniel, he’s knowledgeable about a lot of stuff. Sure, I don’t agree with a lot of it but I can say the guy puts in work and research into his articles. Contrary to other people (TTAG in general, *shudder*, or AllOutdoor for instance).

          • Cmex

            He’s the guy I love to hate. He researches better than most, but i think a lot of what he says and thinks to be nuts/rubbish. Nat, I don’t hate you, I just think you’re bonkers, sometimes to the extent of being contrary to real life facts.

  • iksnilol

    Police in AK using AKs?

    Seems fitting.

    • Raoul O’Shaugnessy

      I hear in AR they use ARs.

  • John

    If I was going up against wolf and bear I think I would opt for 7.62 at least in x39 but more likely x51.

  • Garrett Nln

    Ventura County Sheriff uses Galils because of the improved dust resistance over AR pattern weapons, but in 5.56mm. There are no AKs outside of the Property Bureau gun room. The vast majority of Galils are semi-auto only. The plan as of a few years ago was to trade up to HK416s. A few M4s (real deal) and MP-5s are in inventory, but have been largely supplanted by Galils and ARs. The Galils are unique but ARs are liked better by the deputies.

  • Uniform223

    reminds me of MAC’s ice test…

  • ensitue

    Pixilating faces of uniformed cops that operate in a community of a few 1000, Op Sec!

    • Volk

      Yeah, I found that fairly odd too. Who they are and what they do is a matter of public record.

  • Isaac FluffyWolf Rader

    AKs in AK. Huh.

  • J0shua

    If I saw that gang i’d think they were rippers. Ar’s, mini 14’s, shotties, even a sig 55x, would be cool, but those ak’s look like bad guy guns.

    • Mystick

      I was thinking the same thing. First thing I thought was “gang”, then I saw the badges…. barely.

    • iksnilol

      Gun profiling much?

      I mean, isn’t that kinda what the ignorant do? “Those guns are scary, they can’t be the good guys if they’re using *those*”.

      • J0shua

        Profiling is a tool like any other it can be used for good and bad. I grew up at the end of the cold war, ak’s ar for bad guys. I live in Washington state and obviously we have a lot of dope growg here. Rippers dress up like cops, fake uniforms are cheap. Ive never seen a good guy squad with ak’s. I dont live in Alaska. I despise no knock warrants without due dilligence first. Im clean, which means I should never fall victim to one. If these guys ever showed up at my place I’d want some reassurances that they were legit, especially considering they would probably be at the wrong address. I know its a slippery slope, but I like my swat cops looking like swat cops with big ass police patches all over, not infantry or bikers or pmc lookin dudes in half civvies and no badges. The guys in the pictures are wearing pretty much matching uni’s that look like cops so at least they have that going for them. For what its worth, the cops around here have always seemed fair.

        • iksnilol

          I agree with you, I just reacted to the “AKs are bad guys guns” trope.

          I also like my cops looking like cops.

  • John

    My AR sleeps comfortably, snuggled up tight in a safe place while my AK stands watch. Nothing more comforting than knowing your rifle will go bang when you need it to.

  • tony

    When the Russians invade, it is good for interoperability

    • Giolli Joker

      And if they wanted to invade by land, Alaska in winter would be the choice.

  • All the Raindrops

    Funny because that krebs gun failed in like 4 different ways in cold weather in that mac vid

  • ozzallos .

    I’m wondering how much it has to do with weather conditions versus the stopping power of the caliber against the native wildlife. ARs can be just as fine in harsh conditions, but would I want one when a polar bear comes to visit? Or a herd of meese?

    Yeah, I’d be rocking the AK too.

    • A Fascist Corgi

      I remember reading about Eskimos hunting polar bears in Alaska when I was doing research on bear defense for a hiking trip. The AR-15 was surprisingly common. They’d use dogs to corner the bear so that an Eskimo could catch up to the bear and shoot it. That helped to dispel my belief that I’d need a .308 at a bare minimum for protection while hiking in Alaska.

      Granted, shooting a corned polar bear is not the same thing as shooting a charging polar bear at close range. But the point remains that large bears aren’t supernatural creatures. If you shoot them in the head with an AR-15, they’ll die. The bullets don’t bounce off of their skulls.

      Having said that, most experts still recommend against using calibers that weak for defense against bears. I remember this guy being lectured by some kind of park employee after he used an AK-74 to kill a large brown bear that attacked him while he was hiking.

  • Don1974

    The department I used to work for had the Mini 14. One of the qualification rounds was off-hand at 100 yards, no off paper misses allowed. I like to think of myself as a good shot but that was tough.

  • David A Cameron

    Bottom most photo looks more like an SBR/ Micro Galil, the rear sight is father back than most AK variants, while hard to see, the gas block is different, and the stock is classic newer Galil. While a child of the AK family, not sure I would lump it in with the Krebs or Saigas….

  • Mr Silly

    Nice. Russian weapons superb reliability and idiot proof- designed for the lowest possible conscript to not destroy. SAIGA aut-shotgun would be ideal as “door knocker”.

  • Cmex

    Looks like peoples who live in tundra have similar tastes in equipment…

  • Kinda behind the times. Century has done well in the past few years improving products and service.

    • iksnilol

      From what I understand Century was/is a gun lottery service. Where you can buy a gun that’s good but most likely won’t.

  • Uniform223

    whoa… calm down AK fan boy. I was just referencing a simple video because that is what the article reminded me of. I wasn’t inferring that one individual AK variant from a company should be taken as complete fact.

  • buzzman1

    To the departments credit they pure fleeted the weapons. You dont see a variety of calibers or weapons type. Everyone uses the same ammo and mags.

  • buzzman1

    Read threw a lot of the comments and had to laugh at all of the concerns about modularity.

    I’ve been to extreme northern Alaska in February when the temp is -50 BEFORE wind chill is added in. You only need modularity if you plan on playing Barbie with your rifle. ARs have to be bone dry of any lubricants in weather like they have to function. The AK has a 75 year history of operating just fine in conditions like this and throw out a slug that is twice the mass of the 5.56. Thats kind of important when dealing with a Polar Bear.