Mossberg’s New MVP Scout-Scope Combo

MVP Combo

Since its introduction several years ago, the MVP line of rifles from O. F. Mossberg & Sons have proven to be fairly popular with many people. The guns are bolt action rifles that feed from commonly available detachable magazines. For the 5.56 NATO version, the magazine used is the standard AR-15 pattern mag. The 7.62 rifle uses LR308/SR25 pattern magazines.

For 2016, the company added an additional model option to the MVP Scout rifles chambered in 7.62×51. The new model is a scoped package that adds glass to the purchase for improved shooting precision.

Mossberg selected the Vortex 2-7×32 Crossfire II Scout Scope for the MVP rifle. As one would expect, the scope has extended eye-relief and is mounted in a forward position. The scope uses the Vortex V-Plex reticle and has multi-coated lenses. Mossberg uses Vortex Viper rings to attach the scope to the gun.ย The standard sights – fiber optic front and ghost ring rear – still come with the gun.

A 10-round magazine is included with the purchase of the rifle. Higher capacity magazines will also work in the gun.

The MVP Scout has a 16.25″ barrel with a medium profile. A flash suppressor is attached to the end. The stock is synthetic. The barrel and receiver have a matte blue finish and the stock is black. With an unloaded magazine, the approximate weight of this rifle and scope is 9 pounds.


Richard Johnson

An advocate of gun proliferation zones, Richard is a long time shooter, former cop and internet entrepreneur. Among the many places he calls home is http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/.


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  • Roy G Bunting

    2 pounds too heavy. A lighter scope might help that. I switched from a 30mm 1-4x to a Leopold 2.5x fixed on my 5.56 Patrol for just for that reason. The gun balances better, I can see my sight easier, and I saved over a pound in weight.

    A pencil barrel would be nice, But a little overweight is OK, this just seems excessive.

    • BattleshipGrey

      I was a bit surprised to see the whole thing was 9 lbs. as well since the original concept was to have a lighter gun.

    • Jeff Smith

      Agreed. Mossberg does make a version of the MVP with a thinner barrel. Perhaps that combo could reduce the weight some.

    • Fred Johnson

      Part of the weight problem is that those stocks are not synthetic. They are painted wood. But hey, more weight equals a reduction in felt recoil, right?

      • Roy G Bunting

        My 5.56 gun is definitely a synthetic stock. I don’t know about the 308 version, but the website lists them as synthetic stocks.

        • Fred Johnson

          I added a reply last night with a link to the painted wood stock, but it is stuck in “waiting for moderation” mode. Others can punch in this into a search engine and read the results. “mossberg mvp black stocks painted wood”

  • Aaronj5

    Wasn’t the whole point of having a scout scope so that you could position the scope forward enough to clear feeding from stripper clips? This doesn’t seem to have that capability, so what benefit does such a forward-mounted scope offer?

    • Swarf

      Both-eyes-open target acquisition.

      • Bill

        But I question how well a scope at 7x magnification will work with that much eye relief.

        • Bear The Grizzly

          The scopes have to have extended eye relief, similar to a pistol scope, or it doesn’t work. I think it’s a bad idea personally.

          • Bill

            My 2x Leopold Scout Scope works just fine, for what it is, a low power optic that buys a little magnification and light gathering.

          • Tassiebush

            The forward scope placement looks pretty handy for a rifle that is carried a lot.

        • BillC

          Especially since the closer eye-relief, generally the wider the field of view in the scope. At 7x with extended eye-relief, one is going to have a very narrow field of view.

          • BillC

            The extended eye-relief optic has 18.3 feet @ 100 yards w/ 7x, with the normal eye-relief Vortex has 42 feet @ 100 yards w/ 7x; according to Vortex’s website about the Crossfire II 2-7x.

          • BillC

            Disregard, I looked at the wrong number. I am wrong. The regular eye-relief optic is 12.6 feet, not 42.

          • BillC

            …and the Scout is 5.2 feet @100 yards w/ 7x. So still, the Scout scouts have less FOV. But I was looking at the wrong numbers on the chart.

  • Jeff Smith

    Mossberg, you have my attention.

  • I wish they would release the Scout version in 5.56×45. The Patrol variant is close, but I like having the rear sight closer to my eye.

  • BillC

    Ah, “Scout” style rifles, all because one guy (yes, that guy) liked the concept of an outdated “do-it-all” bolt rifle 50 years ago. Now some people won’t just let it go. That aside, I haven’t been hearing good things about the Mossberg MVP’s. The 5.56mm hates 30 rounds mags and the 7.62 isn’t very accurate.

    • Bill

      It has a role, just not as glamorous as the one Cooper described. Scout rifles are the ultimate truck / gun. Any multi-role tool gives up something to purpose built tools: a Scout Rifle will never be a long range precision rifle or a high volume of fire fighting rifle, but it doesn’t have the technical, or social, baggage that rifles like that do. Mine occasionally goes on patrol with me, and almost always goes on vacation with me, because no matter where I am or what I’m doing, it’s legal and capable of delivering a powerful hit at any distance that I can identify a target.

      I’ve held off on the Mossberg, and I don’t know why, because one in 5.56 would be neat companion to my .308 Savage. Being a fan of 20 round magazines, if it works with 20 round PMags, GI or Lancers I’ll be happy. 30 round magazines in anything are snaggy and make prone or unconventional firing positions awkward. Because extended round count gunfights are very rare in CONUS, I don’t think i’m loosing much that can’t be fixed with extra mags.

      • BillC

        I’ll buy your statement. Glad it works for you and what you want it for. For others and myself it feels like I’m forcing it into a role to like/want it. I guess my personal “Scout” rifle would be my 300 Black with a 20 round mag, with a small light, and 1-4x optic.

        • Dual Sport

          Add 10.2″ of barrel in an SBR package and you have just described my EDC rifle that is riding the roads with me. Everyone has to give up something to get what they want and my package is a little more restricted than some but I can’t bring myself to pay top dollar for a scout that is not impressing anyone quality wise. I would include the Ruger in this statement as well. The Ruger is a rifle that I want to buy routinely until I begin working that action. Bolts should be smooth.

      • Southpaw89

        I agree completely, and combining what you just said with the often relentless reliability of a good bolt action you have a rifle that will handle just about any thing life throws at you, the concept may not have a place on the modern battlefield, but there’s a reason the Canadian Rangers just adopted such a platform. It may not be perfect for any one job, but its good enough for many.

        • Bill

          Watching both, or all sides, of the conflicts in the middle East hold an AK or RPK over a stone wall and dump a mag or belt with no pretense of aiming makes me think the the “modern battlefield” could be ruled by people who aim at their adversary, and get hits, even with it’s a “slow” gun.

        • HenryV

          The CR’s concern is bears not combat.

      • AKโ„ข

        Nah,I’d buy a Magpul D60 drum if I buy a MVP..because why not?

      • All the Raindrops

        If we’re talking 5.56 or mag fed, How would an AR not be better at virtually everything?

        • Bill

          I can’t take a real AR with real magazines everywhere in the nation, and if I do it’s still an EBR. I also don’t think that quality ARs match this price point, nor would I throw as big a fit if a Mossberg-priced rifle were stolen from my truck or damaged in an accident versus a SIG or LWRC priced rifle.

          All other things being equal, I’m not sure what an AR would be “better” at, other than firing multiple rounds faster, though a skilled bolt gun operator can be pretty quick. Most of what I care about is getting one round exactly where it needs to go on the first attempt.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      Pretty much. A rifle like the Tikka CTR in Canadian or Standard fashion is a far better bolt gun than any bolt action Scout style I’ve seen. The forward scope MIGHT have made sense when loading was from stripper clips but is entirely obsolete now.

      The number of reliable semi-auto choices also put idea further into the ground.

      Mossberg: We suck but we love you.

      • SM

        That new Canadian Ranger rifle is basically my ideal rifle. It will be a shame if we can’t get one in the states.

        • JumpIf NotZero

          Yet

        • Kelly Jackson

          It’s supposed to be coming though

    • maodeedee

      The scout rifle has been called. “A handgunner’s solution to a problem that a rifle doesn’t have.” That said, I kind of like the idea of being to shoot with both eyes open.
      But a reliable repeating rifle can never be considered outdated. And neither can Iron sights if you have normal vision and take the time to learn how to use them

    • Mullet

      Yep. I was really interested in this rifle however a write up in American Hunter magazine had it averaging 2 inch groups at 100 with the 308. If a modern bolt action can’t pull on 1 inch groups I don’t want it.

    • All the Raindrops

      Scout mount on mag fed rifle is dumb. It’s a compromise for loading with stripper clips or en bloc clips etc.

  • Xeno Da Morph

    I actually have one of these rifles, and it is very accurate. The magazine commonality with semi auto 308s is a huge plus. It feeds very well with all sorts of bullet weights and profiles. The action is good for a mass produced rifle. The stock is pretty good and rigid . It carries really well wile hunting. The trigger is surprisingly good and adjustable. I’m really happy with this sub $600 rifle. I never thought Mossberg would make something else besides the 590 shotgun that I would actually like. My rifle weighs 9.24 lbs with a 2x Nikon scope Leupold qd rings, loaded 10 rnd pmag and 10 rounds in reserve in the stock saddle. Oh it has a sling too haha.

  • kipy

    I handled some MVP’s at the “Great American Outdoor Show” a couple days ago. I was pleasantly surprised by how nice they felt. Might have to pick one up before spring roles around.

  • Bill

    I keep forgetting: anyone making a Scout style rifle needs to add more sling mounting points, instead of just the conventional under-the-gun ones. I’ll eventually drill and epoxy QD sockets or eyelets or such in different points on mine.

    • Tassiebush

      Hey Bill did you end up seeing how the scout scope is or isn’t affected by low angled sun? I find the idea of scout rifles really appealing but have always wondered if having the sun behind you interferes with the optic?

      • Bill

        Thanks for reminding me, we’re due for rain tomorrow, but I’ll write myself a reminder.

        • Tassiebush

          Thanks for that. I’m always grateful to hear what insights people have with things like this.

          • Bill

            Played with it a little last evening and this morning, which was particularly sunny, and didn’t notice any problems at all or issues at all. I’m confident the Leopold uses some high-end anti-glare coatings that kill any reflections, at least back to the user.

          • Tassiebush

            Thankyou so much for that! It really was the only thing I had worried about it’s great news that it isn’t an issue.

  • Don Ward

    OMG. At this rate we’ll be able to have a Top 5 Best Scout Rifles TFB Video. It’s happening!

    • BillC

      It’s really not a hard list. 1) is the Styer scout, but it’s expensive. 2.) is the Ruger Gunsite Scout, but it uses expensive mags 3) is The Mossberg, but at least it’s the cheapest and uses more mags. So it really comes down what how much you want to spend.

      • Don Ward

        That’s kind of the joke ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • tazman66gt

        also the 4) Savage Scout

      • Goody

        How much I want to spend is $400 on the rifle, then maybe $250 on glass and mounts. The plan is to get a sporterised Swedish mauser, a few chargers, a forward mount, boom baby it’s time to go pigging!

        • Goody

          Bought the Swede sporter today. Not an amazingly pretty thing, but prettier than a savage, and happy to report an excellent trigger (for a $400au gun) and unbelievably smooth action.

          • Tassiebush

            Good stuff mate! Those are nice guns!

  • gusto

    the scout rifle with those forward mounted optics is silly nowadays when you cna have a quality 2 moa reddot

    I have it on my BLR to fill the same niche, (lightweight handy rifle with a punch ) (mine is in 358win

    • Fred Johnson

      I love a red dot on a rifle, even a manually operated rifle. The sad thing is that some days my eyes don’t see the red dot as well as I’d like. A splotchy red blur gets annoying at times.

      However, with a scout scope I can focus the reticle at the eyepiece, I get a bit of magnification, all for the near same two eye open shooting experience. Picking a scout scope around 2x or so seems like perfection to me. Easy on the eyes and lightweight, too.

  • Cymond

    I want a MVP in 223 but I don’t know why. My AR does just fine for me, I honestly don’t know what I’d gain from the MVP, yet I still want one.

    I’m not going to buy one, but would really like to spend a bit of time with one.

    • Roy G Bunting

      My reasoning is that with a bolt action I can concentrate more on the shot then I do with a semi auto. Without parts moving and shells ejecting follow through is easier to concentrate on. But I learned on bolt actions and have been known to reflexively cycle a selfloading gun after firing a shot because that is what I’m used to. ๐Ÿ™‚

      Why an MVP/Patrol instead of just some 223 bolt action? Cheap, available 10 round removable magazines (Pmag 10). A detachable magazine is the single best safety feature a firearm can have, possibly excepting a suppressor. And Pmags are much more readily available then any proprietary magazine.

    • Kelly Jackson

      The CZ 527 is really an all around better gun.
      Sure you’re limited 5 round, but it’s hammer forged barrel and light weight are better selling points to me

      • Paul White

        am I the only one totally OK with blind mags for bolt action guns? Am I crazy?

        I’m not using a 30 round magazine in a bolt action. Thought I’ve the MVP’s don’t like those anyway and do better with 10 rounders anyway

        • JumpIf NotZero

          Thought I’ve the MVP’s don’t like those anyway and do better with 10 rounders anyway

          Almost as if there is a reason only Mossberg makes a bolt gun that readily takes AR15 mags ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • Cymond

        I’ve heard good things about the CZ 527. I guess the MVP appeals to me because I already have so many AR mags, but I think I’d like the 527 better overall.
        Would you recommend the 7.62×39 or the 223? Again, both are appealing and each has its pros and cons.

    • maodeedee

      If you get the one with the ten round mag you won’t use as much ammo qas you do with your AR. I have a H&R single shot in 223 and it’s a amazing how long 2-3 20 round boxes of ammo lasts.

      I also have a Ruger Amerecan in 223 and it’s a nice rifle but I don’t like the design of their magazines The one that came with the gun didn’t work at all soe4 I complained to Ruger and they sent me two mags that worked but there’s a little tiny plastic nubbin that’s supposed to lock the mag in place and I wouldn’t be surprised that after using the gun for a while that the mag would no longer stay in place so I plan in selling it and getting one of these but not with the scout scope.

      Why Ruger would build such a nice rifle and design such a chintzy cheap-a$$ magazine for it is beyond me. It would be much better off with a blind magazine that worked. with this gun. at least it uses a magazine that is a proven design, regardless of capacity.

  • Mark

    I have a Ruger Gunsite Scout in .308 Winchester. It is a left handed model. I have killed two mule deer with it. I believe both were at a range of between 200-225 yards. I have a Leupold 2-7X Rifleman scope mounted on it. My main complaint is that it gets heavy to carry for long periods of time.

  • bobfairlane

    They got the scope out of the way, but the rail is still covering up the breach. That kind of defeats the purpose, I think.