CZ 75 P-07 prototypes
CZ-USA posted photos on Twitter of two CZ 75 P-07 prototypes. The P-07 is the new polymer version of the CZ 75. It introduced earlier this year.
CZ-USA posted photos on Twitter of two CZ 75 P-07 prototypes. The P-07 is the new polymer version of the CZ 75. It introduced earlier this year.
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Those controls look HUGE!
I have never seen one in person so please forgive me if I am mistaken but that slide doesn’t look all that tall and combined with the large controls I cannot help but wonder if one might encounter problems manipulating the slide in a high stress situation.
Also, what is going on with the trigger? It looks really far forward and with that curl to it I wonder if you would have a hard time getting your finger in and out of there.
It’s hideous AND unreliable! What a combo!
I want a full size 75 with a polymer frame, alloy or Titanium slide, and a double action trigger.
Wow, is that one ugly pistol. Hopefully they just forgot to put the right-colored dye in the polymer mix….
I still don’t understand it. The polymer frame only saves 1.6 oz of empty weight over the alloy-framed P01, but still manages to compromise the excellent CZ ergonomics while having a slightly larger pistol overall with a shorter barrel. The only apparent advantages of the P07 are price and capacity (+2). I regularly preach the CZ gospel, but the P07 manages to turn me off every which way.
Then again, I still can’t get the feel for polymer guns. The grips are all terrible (Why do they have corners? My hand doesn’t have corners.) with the exception of the Taurus PT24/7 Pro, which I wouldn’t carry anyway. Even the much-touted XDM rubs me wrong–somehow it gives crazy hotspots while feeling slick in all the wrong places. Glocks are right out.
I love the CZ-75 but these leave me very cold.
The slide looks like it sits inside the frame. This is rather unusual with polymer guns I think. I’ve read that this will make it more accurate, but I don’t really know why this would be…
I would guess that the main reason why polymer grips are square (ish) is because they are trying to be as small as possible (so many sizes of hands can use them) while still having room for the magazine (which is square).
Get one of those hogue rubber sleeves if you have such tremendous problems with the grip. Or just shoot more and get used to it…
Or my favorite solution, buy a metal gun
Carl,
The slide rails do fit inside the frame, as opposed to the vast majority of pistols that are designed in the reverse. IMO the accuracy advantage is largely theoretical. I’ve shot several CZ-75’s over the years, full-size version as well as a pocket-size RAMI, and found them to be no more or less accurate than comparable pistols. What does set them apart for me is feel and handling.
Dr. Feelgood,
I concur with your treatment plan.
Sure, but everything else equal chances are you’ll have room for fewer rounds in the magazine with a metal frame+grip sides.
Bill, I think the accuracy advantage is actually a follow-up-precision advantage. Theoretically, the slide-in-frame design provides a relatively lower bore axis which is supposed to improve controllability. I have noticed that I don’t hit better or worse, but I do hit the same a little bit faster.
I think CZs make some of the finest quality firearms. But since they are not as well known as say Glock, HK, and other poly frames makers, they are often reguarded as junk. Go shoot one of these and then tell me what you think of them. I think many of you will find this to be on the same level if not better, as “top” brands, but without the hefty price, of say an HK, and the ugly Ergos, of say a Glock.