Glock 17 Gen5 Mini-Torture Test (Featuring the NEW SoRePiE Test)

    In this episode of TFBTV, James introduces you to a new method of torture testing – the “Somewhat Realistic Pistol Evaluation”, a.k.a. the SoRePiE. In this episode, James submits the 5th Generation Glock 17 to the different stages of the evaluation, including:

    * 50 rounds of 115gr steel-cased Wolf ammunition
    * 100 rounds of 124gr hollow point Ventura Tactical ammunition
    * Removing all lubrication from the gun and firing 50 rounds of 147gr Ventura Munitions 9mm
    * Submerging the gun in water for 15 seconds and firing 25 rounds of 147gr VM 9mm
    * Placing the gun in a dust chamber with extra-fine sand and exposing it to 10 seconds of high speed wind and dust

    After all of that, the gun is scored by the total number of failures as a percentage – how did the Glock do?

    This is a short, 250 round test, but if viewers like it and it becomes popular, then 500 and 1000 round tests are a possibility, but remember, we need AMMO, so support us on Patreon!

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    Transcript ….

    – Hi guys. James again, with TFB TV. And I’m really excited because this is going to be the first torture test I do with this new system I developed.

    I call it the S*omewhat Realistic Pistol Evaluation, or the SORE PIE.

    So the gun’s clean right now. And we’re going to do 50 rounds of Wolf steel-case ammunition first to get the gun kinda dirty.

    Then, we’re gonna run 100 rounds of hollow point 9mm ammunition from Ventura Munitions through it.

    To me, that’s very realistic, right? You’re going to be shooting hallow point rounds through a defensive pistol.

    And so you wanna know if it’s gonna function.

    If you fire 100 hollow point rounds, you hope all 100 are going to go through.

    Then we’re going to shoot 50 rounds of ball ammunition with no lubrication.

    I’m gonna take non-chlorinated brake cleaner, blast the gun out. It’s going to be totally unlubricated.

    We’ll see if it can run 50 rounds.

    Now let’s talk about the last 50 rounds.

    We’re gonna drop this gun in water for 15 seconds.

    Then we’re gonna take it out and we’re gonna shoot 25 rounds through it.

    Finally, the last test is the sand test.

    I built a dust chamber.

    I was messing around with it yesterday, and I killed P-11. My P-11 is dead.

    It can’t fire more than one round at a time right now.

    (gunfire) What? There we go.

    Come on trigger, reset.

    (pulls trigger continuously) Come on! (taps gun) So the last 25 rounds on the sand test are going to be no joke.

    But again, the whole goal of this is for it to be somewhat realistic.

    Realistically, you wanna be able to shoot 100 rounds of hollow point through your gun, even when it’s a little bit dirty.

    Realistically, if you’re gun gets wet or if you drop it in water, you want it to be able to shoot whenever you retrieve it.

    And realistically, if you get some dust or sand in the action of the gun, if you drop it in the sand, if you leave it outside, you want it also to be able to function through that.

    Enough talking. Glock Gen5 is going to be the first subject for the SORE PIE.

    Let’s give it a shot.

    Alright guys, we’re gonna warm things up with 50 rounds of Wolf.

    (clicks gun) (gunfire) (speedy gunfire) Well, nothing.

    I mean, but you expect that from the Glock.

    50 rounds of Wolf, no big deal.

    Now let’s get 100 rounds of hollow point 9mm, 124 grain. I didn’t know it was possible to feel bad for an inanimate object, but I’m really worried about this Glock right now.

    You guys see this? Smokin’ a little bit.

    Smokin’ a lotta bit.

    Two more mags to go.

    (blows on gun) There we go.

    A 100 rounds of hollow point, 50 rounds of Wolf.

    So I’m taking all of the lube out of this gun.

    Then we’re gonna fire 50 rounds of 147 grain ball ammunition. Periodically, you have guns that aren’t so good at 147 grains.

    So I think it’s important to include that in the test as well.

    You’ll notice in the SORE PIE we use all the common grain weights. We’ve got 115 grain Wolf, 124 grain hollow point, and then a 147 grain ball point.

    So we pretty much touch on every single bullet weight, which I think is also very important if you’re doing a Somewhat Realistic Pistol Evaluation.

    Alright, this Gen5 Glock is completely dry.

    No lubrication.

    50 rounds of 147 grain Ventura Munitions.

    Alright guys, there it is.

    So that’s 200 rounds down.

    To recap, we’ve done 50 rounds of Wolf, 100 rounds of 124 grain hollow point ammunition.

    Then we took all the lube out and we just shot 50 rounds of 147 grain completely dry.

    Now it’s time to go for a swim.

    So a quick word about the mechanics of the submersion test.

    A magazine is in its central component of a firearm.

    So I kind of battled between whether or not I was going to do these last two tests, the water test and the sand test, if I was going to do them with the magazine in the gun, and I decided yes. Because if we’re going to be somewhat realistic, the mag’s gonna be in the gun.

    Let’s see what happens whenever you have the mag in the gun.

    Now, that said, we’re only going to do 10 rounds for the mag in the gun in the hazard.

    So I’m gonna load this Glock with 10 rounds of 147 grain ball.

    Drop it in the water for 15 seconds.

    Then it’s going to have a back up magazine with 15 rounds.

    That mag’s gonna be dry.

    I figure that’s the fairest way to balance both the hazard and, you know, if you can get a dry mag and get it back into the action, you’re testing not only the magazine, but the gun itself. I figure that’s the fairest compromise.

    So that’s what we’re gonna do. It’s been in here for 15 seconds. Gonna make sure there’s no water in the bore, so I don’t die.

    Alright, here we go.

    There’s 10 down.

    Alright guys, so far, in the test, the Glock has been 100% It hasn’t messed anything up.

    So now what I’m gonna do, I’m gonna lube it back to factory spec.

    And then we’re gonna put it in the homemade, ghetto-ass dust machine, (machine whirring) and see, if it kills the Glock the same way it killed the Kel-Tec P-ll.

    Alright, so here’s how we’re gonna do this.

    Half-cup of sand.

    I’m gonna distribute that.

    You can see the half-cup of sand distributed evenly along the right side of the container where the blower’s going to be.

    Remember, this is SORE PIE 1.0.

    I’ll probably come of with something cooler than this, but we’re putting air into this chamber.

    So we wanna make sure that it can get out.

    Easy solution is a bungee chord and cotton T-shirt.

    This works perfectly, because it would keep the sand in, but it would let the air out.

    So is this the dumbest thing you’ve ever seen yet? Alright, so we’ve got our 10 and our 15 round magazine.

    Remember the 10 round magazine is going in with the gun.

    The gun’s been lubed back to spec.

    One in the chamber.

    We’re gonna put it length-wise with ejection port facing up on the opposite side of the sand.

    This blower has six levels.

    We’re going to do level four for 10 seconds.

    10 seconds. Level four. Here we go.

    (blower) (timer beeping) You can see there’s a lotta space for the sand to get inside of the action.

    Let’s see what happened.

    This is bad.

    Well, there you have it guys.

    SORE PIE number one.

    The Glock almost a perfect score.

    Now I say almost because if you go back and rewatch the video, you’ll see that on that second trigger pull, I thought this guy was toast.

    The trigger wasn’t resetting and I think that’s the main problem with the sand.

    When it gets into your trigger group, it really creates a problem.

    Alright, so that was SORE PIE number one.

    What’d you guys think? I was pretty impressed. Now that was only a 250-round job.

    But, it’s not easy.

    Now, it’s not incredibly difficult either.

    It isn’t like dragging it through the mud or baking it in a fudge brownie or whatever in the hell.

    You’re removing lubrication. You’re firing hollow points.

    You’re firing back to back to back to back.

    You’re firing steel-cased ammunition that sucks through it.

    Submerging it in water. Shooting it.

    And finally, hitting it with sand. And a minute on the sand.

    That sand is really really tough.

    And right now we’re talking about the SORE PIE 1.0.

    I kinda like it. If you guys like it, lemme know in the comments, and we’ll stick with the formula.

    But if I had to change one thing, I think I would change the sand aspect. Because when that stuff gets in a gun, it is game over. And that really really fine sand, it’s fine enough to get into every crevice, but it’s course enough, that once it gets in there, it really screws everything up.

    So, does the Glock 17 Gen5 get a perfect score on SORE PIE number one version 1.0? No. I think I’ve gotta deduct at least one point for the Glock 17. That initial shot after being exposed to the dust chamber, it was slow to reset.

    It wasn’t a failure to feed. It wasn’t a failure to eject.

    And just a split second later, it was back in the fight and ready to shoot. But that was a malfunction.

    So did it get a perfect score? No, but pretty damn close.

    And I bet it’s gonna be the score to beat.

    So I guess the point is, I know that there are gonna be guns that can fail this test. And looking at the Glock, I know that there are gonna be guns that can pass this test.

    It’s really figuring out everything in between that’s going to be really fun with the SORE PIE.

    Please, guys, your feedback’s so important, so let me know in the comments what you think, or if there’s anything that should be tweaked.

    Thank you to Ventura Munitions for sending all the ammo.

    Thank you guys, subscribers, viewers. All of you, I will see you next week.

    (lively symphonic music)

    Steve Johnson

    I founded TFB in 2007 and over 10 years worked tirelessly, with the help of my team, to build it up into the largest gun blog online. I retired as Editor in Chief in 2017. During my decade at TFB I was fortunate to work with the most amazing talented writers and genuinely good people!


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