Which Is Better? Bullpup or Conventional?

Nathaniel F
by Nathaniel F
Original caption: “The Reconnoissance Company of the Givati Brigade underwent a company training week in southern Israel, as part of their advanced training. Due to the elite nature of the company there were two separate company exercises, wherein the first was “dry” and the second included live fire.” Image source: commons.wikimedia.com, photo by Michael Shvadron, IDF Spokesperson’s Film Unit.

Recently, I wrote an article about one negative aspect of bullpups which is caused by their much-touted rearward balance. Even though its scope was extremely limited, this article caused a lot of discontent in my comments section, and many of my readers expressed a feeling that I was trying to slam bullpups or otherwise promote conventional rifles as the ideal weapons. In this post, therefore, I wanted to address the underlying issue behind this: How do I really feel about bullpups? Put differently, which do I think is better, bullpups, or conventionals?

Now that I have you here, I want to tell you something: This is the wrong question to ask. These two paradigms – the bullpup and the conventional – are a mess of tradeoffs and contrasts too numerous to properly account for. Even if one did account for them, and found one or the other to have more benefits than negatives, it would be completely unconvincing to someone who favored the other paradigm. It’s a simple matter in an argument to just weigh more heavily those aspects which favor your preferred type over the other. If you believe that oranges are better than apples, for example, you can just say “well, taste and texture are the most important things; how easy it is to eat is decidedly secondary.” Who is to say you are wrong? Even if the tradeoffs themselves are well-established as many are for bullpups versus conventionals, how those tradeoffs are perceived is entirely subjective. Since both weapons have been used successfully in combat, and there are no instances of armies equipped with one losing or suffering in engagements versus the other which can be attributed to the superiority of the layout of their rifles, these perceptions from each side color the entire debate. I don’t really believe it is subjective whether one type is better than the other, but it might as well be.

It is better to instead talk about the very real, tangible, and unequivocal state of bullpups on the military market today. In lieu of hashing over pros and cons, I think we can make a few broader observations that should help improve the focus and constructiveness of future discussions about bullpups:

  1. Bullpups are doing poorly on the military market. I plan to make the case that this is true in a future article, but for now, take it as my opinion that this should be an item of concern for bullpup advocates, not an item for dismissal.
  2. Most major manufacturers do not seem to think pursuing bullpup designs are a good investment. Where are all the production military/LEO bullpups? Many legacy bullpup manufacturers (e.g., Steyr, FN) are dropping them like a bad habit, and the only “new” designs on the market are updates of legacy ones (QBZ-95-1, EF88/F90 Atrax). In many cases those manufacturers are introducing brand new conventional rifle designs, too (e.g., NAR-556, NAR-762, RS-556). There does not seem to be the divide between bullpups and conventionals that we might expect of two different but equally valid styles. In fact no new military bullpup design exists which doesn’t have direct roots back to the Cold War/pre-GWOT bullpup concept. This is pretty concerning!
  3. Any future ammunition concept that relies on having a bullpup rifle with a long barrel will be a complete non-starter. The Infantry School at Fort Benning essentially rejects bullpups in general, and for most bullpup advocates concepts like this sacrifice what is perceived as the primary advantage of the bullpup: Shorter overall length. Regardless of what rifles become popular in the future, any new round should be designed for 14.5-16.5″ barrels, at the longest.
  4. Bullpups have demonstrable disadvantages versus conventionals. This doesn’t mean they are unusable or that they have no advantages, but it does mean that arguing bullpups are “just better” is a bit of kool-aid drinkery that won’t get one very far in the conversations that matter. Whether you think it’s true or not, a lot of people really, really do not. A tack of “here’s why the benefits are worth the tradeoffs” would be much more effective at convincing skeptics.

I think the conclusion we can draw from these four points is this: Designers and marketers of future bullpup rifles have a lot of work to do. I touch on this a little bit in What’s Killing the Bullpup (and How to Cure It), but I should mention that this conclusion goes beyond whether any given reader feels satisfied with modern bullpup, and acknowledges directly the fact that, put simply: Bullpups aren’t doing very well.

Now, in my opinion much of the blame for this can be attributed to the fact that current bullpup designs are fairly uncreative, being essentially nothing more than refinements of first-generation designs from the 1970s and 1980s. It doesn’t look like manufacturers are willing to spend their own R&D dollars to innovate in the bullpup market significantly, either, which could be disastrous for the concept. That then means whoever wants to solve the “bullpup problem” (and I certainly hope someone does) will need to undertake a true labor of love and passion to do so. The pursuit of the perfected bullpup rifle is something I definitely encourage, and it’s my hope that what I’ve written on the subject so far is helpful to anyone who chooses to go down this road.

I plan to continue writing about the bullpup rifle concept, of course. Future subjects will include taking a closer look at some of the observations listed above, as well as guides for what I feel could be improved in current bullpup designs. Regardless of whether you are a bullpup fan or critic, I plan to have something interesting for you, so stay tuned.

Nathaniel F
Nathaniel F

Nathaniel is a history enthusiast and firearms hobbyist whose primary interest lies in military small arms technological developments beginning with the smokeless powder era. He can be reached via email at nathaniel.f@staff.thefirearmblog.com.

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  • BenjiMac BenjiMac on Apr 30, 2017

    OK, tired of unicorns and camels, this discussion is supposed to be about rifles.
    A bullpup rifle is better than a short barrel conventional rifle because US ATF says so. They require a certain barrel length. So fine, with more or less 17 inch barrel length...
    A bullpup clearly has a shorter overall length, which is easier to carry and easier to deploy within or from a vehicle.
    A conventional rifle has a longer overall length, which gives a longer distance between sights for better accuracy with iron sights. This advantage goes away when using optical sights mounted at the same distance from the stock.
    With the same barrel length and similar action, there is no difference in bullet velocity or accuracy.
    A bullpup may have a problem with the location of the ejection port. If that is adjacent the user's head, and ejecting sideways, then a right handed rifle cannot be fired left handed without ejecting shells into the user's head. A partial solution would be a flip switch, similar in operation to a safety actuator, that causes shells to be ejected left or right by operator choice. This is not quite as good as a solution that works for both left and right handed shooting without any difference. Someone makes a gun that ejects cases forward, over or under the barrel, which would solve that problem. Some other ejection direction, such as straight down, may also work.
    Bullpup rifles are more complex than conventional rifles, although not necessarily too much. Instead of the trigger directly connecting to the sear, a link is required to attach the trigger to the rear mounted sear. This does not need to be more complex than a 1911 pistol with a U-shaped connection between trigger and sear bypassing the magazine.
    A bullpup rifle has the muzzle closer to the shooter, which may increase noise and similar problems. A properly designed sound director (or sound reducer) should solve this problem.
    My conclusion: I would like to have one in a suitable caliber for hunting, like .308. I have difficulty raising a conventional rifle for action within a camouflage shelter tent, and a shorter overall length at the same level of power and accuracy would help a lot, also easier to carry through the woods. This should be a good market for a suitable design. It does not even need to be a perfect design, just suitable for enough people who might buy it.

  • Sutanker Sutanker on May 20, 2017

    Your article should have been titled "How many ways can I beat up on bullpups without actually saying anything definite.

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