Clear Ballistics Gelatin Not Performing Like Real Ballistics Gelatin?

Nicholas C
by Nicholas C

Andrew of AR15.com has published a video comparing the performance of Clear Ballistic Gelatin to organic 10% ballistic gelatin using Nosler 64gr Bonded Softpoint bullets out of an AR-15.

The results are interesting. When shooting into the 10% ballistics gelatin, the round penetrated 15.6″. Clear ballistics gelatin showed different results with the same bullet penetrating 19.4″, almost 4″ further than the 10% ballistic gelatin.

Andrew comments that the results from the Clear gelatin can alter one’s perception of a bullet’s performance for self defense needs. In this particular case the rifle round appears to over penetrate if one goes solely by the results of the Clear Ballistics gelatin.

Andrew told TFB that when comparing Clear Gel and organic gel with the FBI standard of “shooting a .177 caliber (4.5 mm) steel BB from an air gun over a chronograph at 590 feet per second (fps)” he found the following:

593.7 fps, 3.4″ (organic gel)
595.2 fps, 4.1″ (Clear Gel)

The acceptable range is 590 fps +/- 15 fps and 2.95″ – 3.74″ of penetration. The Gel gel fell just outside the acceptable range.

Does this mean that Clear Ballistics Gelatin is not appropriate for amateur testing? Not necessarily. Right now we have only seen different results in a handful of calibers using very specific types of ammunition. There can be areas where the Clear Ballistics Gelatin does perform identically with 10% ballistic gelatin. Andrew does acknowledge that there are videos on Youtube showing clear gel does mimic 10% gel. The temporary stretch cavity, maximum expansion, minimum expansion, and weight retention are similar between organic and Clear gel.

We spoke to another Youtuber who uses Clear Gel. He told us that unlike organic gel, the Clear gel is easier to store, and therefor easier for the casual user to use.

Lastly, Clear Ballistic Gelatin does something that 10% ballistics gelatin does not: it visually shows results better. Should you stop using Clear Ballistics Gelatin? Not necessarily. It depends on what you want the product to do what you want to test.

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  • Doc Rader Doc Rader on Sep 10, 2016

    Since we have been using Clear Ballistics for the series Tom G and I have been doing, I'd like to chime in.

    We do a calibration BB on every gel to confirm the density and penetration, and we have not seen any problems yet.

    That said, at best, gel testing, in my opinion, and with regards to our series, is more about the consistency of the testing. Do the gels perform the same? Well, that would take actual scientific testing, done using scientific methodology. Shooting a couple rounds here and there (to compare the two types), in non controlled conditions, is really nothing more than interesting, and I wouldn't draw any real conclusions from it.

    We would need to see a few hundred rounds from the same lot with the same controls shot into the gels and then have some statistical analysis against the measurements. My hypothesis is that we would not really see much difference. But without the funding to conduct a comparison to that standard, all we can do is guess and offer opinions based on our personal observations.

    What we can do is use a specific medium to test, and conduct the tests in as close to the same conditions, and use that data to compare the rounds. Is it perfect? No. But it is still valuable.

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    • Chop Block Chop Block on Sep 13, 2016

      @Doc Rader No. Properly prepared and calibrated real ballistic gelatin produces remarkably similar results (assuming consistent projectile performance). As you can see in this test, the two natural gel shots came to rest within a little more than 1/10th of an inch of each other.

      No, the test shouldn't have stopped at the point where Clearballistics' claims were starting to unravel. They claim their blocks are calibrated and consistent. The latter claim is definitely false. The calibration figures for the clear gel listed in this article are a typo. Here are my actual results, performed after the test seen here.

      At room temperature (about 80°F):

      593.7 fps, 3.4"

      595.2 fps, 4.1"

      Remember that the nominal range is 590 fps +/- 15 fps and 2.95" - 3.74"

      That puts the second result out of range, but not by far. That's
      also measuring to the leading edge of the BB, not to the end of the
      track, which was probably about a quarter inch deeper because projectiles often bounce back in clear gel.

      Then I let it sit in the sun for about an hour to test the
      manufacturer claim that it is temperature stable. Ambient temperature
      right was 88°F. Internal temperature of the block was about 105°F
      (via meat thermometer) when I shot this portion.
      Please note that the manufacturer only claims accurate penetration through 90°F, but this result is consistent with what an amateur tester might do if they let the block sit in the back of their truck on the way to the range. Since ambient temperature was below the recommended, someone might believe the block was still within temperature range.

      579.3 fps, 5.6"

      594.6 fps, >6.2" (exited the short side of the block)

      Then I let it sit in my refrigerator for a couple days. Temperature in the fridge was 40°F.

      586.0 fps, 2.6"

      Obviously way out of range.

      As for the real ballistic gelatin being out of range, I fired two calibration BBs into it and filmed that part as well, in case you're interested. https://youtu.be/xJF-C2wuuCI

      The calibration results for the real gelatin were:
      580.2 fps, 3.1"
      593.7 fps, 3.2"

      The Clearballistics product has been repeatedly shown to deviate from real ballistic gelatin tests on multiple occasions. It simply does not do what the manufacturer claims it does. I know that you are emotionally invested in the clear product, but the evidence is fairly conclusive. Is it comprehensive? No, there are a wide range of velocities, sectional densities, and other factors to map out to find exactly the places where clear gel deviates from real ballistic gelatin, but the fact that it deviates is painfully clear.

  • Sunshine_Shooter Sunshine_Shooter on Sep 12, 2016

    Here's my question: If the over-penetration in clear gel consistent? As in, does 15" in ballistics gel reliably come to 18.5" in clear gel? Could you not just convert a clear gel depth into a true gel depth by multiplying (clear gel depth*.81) or something similar?

    • Chop Block Chop Block on Sep 13, 2016

      @Sunshine_Shooter The relationship does not appear to be linear. That is, certain loads appear to produce results that are very similar in the two types of media.

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