SilencerCo Maxim 9 | SHOT 2017

At Industry Range Day I got a chance, like many others, to get some trigger time and check out the production version of the Maxim 9. For those who have not heard of this and have been living with out internet for the past couple years or perhaps you woke up from a coma, the Maxim 9 is an integrally suppressed 9mm handgun by SilencerCo.

I have been slowly following its evolution ever since it was debuted at SilencerCo’s Maxim Vice press event. At the time, the Maxim 9 was built off of a modified Smith & Wesson M&P 9.

Before the M&P9 iteration, the early prototype of the Maxim 9 was built off of a Beretta 92.

At last year’s SHOT Show SilencerCo showed their changes. They went with Glock magazines which meant an entirely new frame of their design and the suppressor aesthetics have changed.

 

One of the issues I had with the version above was the inability to attach a light/laser or some sort of optic.

Well, those issues have been addressed. Underneath the massive front end are three KeyMod holes for attaching a small picatinny rail. Now you can attach any weapon light you so desire.
My favorite change is the inclusion of am RMR cut into the top of the silencer. Since the slide is only the portion at the chamber, everything in front of the ejection port does not move. So that means an RMR mounted atop of the Maxim 9 will act like a frame mounted optic.

 

One feature I did not expect was the removable section akin to the SilencerCo Salvo12 or Micro Osprey. This modularity allows you to shorten the overall length of the pistol with the compromise of decreased sound reduction. I am curious if you could then go in the opposite direction and increase the length by adding more sections and make the Maxim 9 even quieter\?

 

If you look closely, you will notice the Maxim 9 grip and frame has a distinct texture. I have been told, by SilencerCo, that it is actually Morse Code. Anyone want to try their hand at decoding it?

 

 



Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

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  • TheNotoriousIUD

    This thing is officially in sci-fi land and I want it. Bad.

  • M.M.D.C.

    “… Morse Code. Anyone want to try their hand at decoding it?”

    Ugly is as ugly does?

    It ain’t pretty, but I would love to have one.

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      Seriously?
      I agree the first iteration based on the M&P 9 was balls but the production model looks pretty effing cool.
      My only concern is weight.

      • M.M.D.C.

        Nah. Just kidding around. It’s a good idea and it’s executed well.

        • TheNotoriousIUD

          Am I missing where the price was posted? Im almost afraid to ask.

          • maodeedee

            For that price I’d rather get a Desert Eagle and wear earplugs

          • Mister_Jim

            Or a few S&W 686s or Ruger Security Sixes.
            Yes, they are louder, have only six shot capacity, but the muzzle energy and velocity is superior and they don’t have that extra “thing” on the trigger that can’t stop an untrained person from pulling the trigger.

  • Holdfast_II

    Really need the HPA to pass, because I don’t want to explain this to my CLEO. Yes, it’s a small town and he personally calls when he gets an NFA notice. Never denied one, and a really nice guy, but still don’t like it.

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      Get an NFA trust and you wont have to worry about it.

      • Holdfast_II

        Um, yeah you do. Regs changed last July, though Trump could change it back if the HPA does not pass.

        • TheNotoriousIUD

          Damn, yeah I forgot about that.
          But its not retroactive, correct?

          I set mine up years ago.

          • Nicholas C

            Not retro but going forward you need to notify. You don’t need permission. Just notification.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            Got it, thanks!

            Hopefully soon cans will be altogether exempt.

          • maodeedee

            “Hopefully soon cans will be altogether exempt.”

            Since Obama’s chosen successor, HRC, LOST the election, that has a good possibility of becoming a reality. When that day comes I’ll be getting one for my 10mm Glock and working up some 230 grain subsonic loads.

          • Holdfast_II

            Not as to the Trust itself, but for any NEW item the trust acquires it is.

    • ProLiberty82

      Uncle CLEO…

    • kinthral

      On the new versions of the Form 1 and Form 4, there is clarification of your other options for CLEO notification:
      “The chief law enforcement officer is considered to be the Chief of Police; the Sheriff; the Head of the State Police; or a State or local district attorney or prosecutor.”

      For example, Silencershop now just notifies the Heads of State Police for all of their submissions.

  • J-

    How does it work? Short recoil? Delayed blowback? Is it sensitive to limp-wristing?

    • MrFN

      Fixed barrel delayed blowback, InRange made a noice vid about it

    • With that much weight out front, anyone who could limpwrist this thing probably doesn’t have bones in the first place.

  • Harry’s Holsters

    I wonder what the width is? I have a real urge to carry one and run it through a class. Might not be any worse than carrying with an X300 Ultra which I don’t find that bad.

    How quickly will the can get hot?

    At $1500 if the HPA passes it’ll be interesting to see what Silencerco does with the design. Will that sell it to a larger company or partner with a larger company?

    Maybe they have a options and groundwork laid on what they need for mass manufacturing if the HPA passes. If it does they should have enough production models out there to make necessary generational changes before going full bore with these.

    I’d also like to see one next to a a common handgun for size comparison.

    • J.W. Ramp

      Good question on the heat. Typical kydex holsters might have some issues keeping up with a day of shooting and baking in the sun. Might have to go with an alternative material to keep both the holster and your leg from melting away.

      • Harry’s Holsters

        All the similar materials I can think of are going to have that issue. Holstex and Bolteron have similar melting points to kydex. At least similar enough to when compared to a suppressor that might get up to 600+ degrees. Might have to rate holsters for X number of rounds in y period of time or gun temp. If a another thermoforming material can be used that’ll open up the options in terms of available holsters.

        When I get my hands on one I’ll certainly do some testing with different materials.

        • iksnilol

          What about aluminum shell in a kydex holster? Or carbon fiber since that insulates.

          • Harry’s Holsters

            On both of those cost. Carbon fiber is really hard to work with but is a good idea. Both of those would require very expensive setups to start.

            The carbon fiber holster would probably costs as much or more as the carbon fiber hand guards. $250-$600. I bet a few would sell but you’d be focusing on a very nice market.

            The aluminum also present retention issues unless you use a level two type retention. Maybe inserts at certain parts of the holster would work and be more affordable. Rivet them in before folding it. That could be very hard on the finish of the gun. I’m sure there is a material out there it will just take some time to find it.

          • BryanS

            Its not as pretty, but shredded CF might be an option, with the right mold.

          • Harry’s Holsters

            Thanks I’ll have to look into mold cost.

          • Sand

            you can use whatever carbon fiber you want – plain weave, twill,
            biaxial, unidirectional, or chopped mat – the fiber will take the heat
            in any form. it’s the resin that will have to be carefully selected for
            the temperatures involved. I would guess that you might need to use some sort of phenolic if you are looking at temps around 600 F.

            for manufacturing small quantities, molds can be made for dirt cheap. you could easily throw one together with EPS foam, some fiberglass, a little bondo, and two-part automotive paint.

            carbon fiber is no more difficult to work with than fiberglass. if you have ever done a repair on a glass boat, you know just about everything you need to about working with carbon.

          • Harry’s Holsters

            With the time it’d take to learn the process I would probably be better off to sub it out. Another thing to think about is mold cycle time. I cycle a kydex holster mold every 2 minutes. If the cure time is longer for the CF which I imagine it is then I need more molds, more shop space and are there environmental issues or any gasses created during the molding process.

          • Sand

            yeah, on that scale it will probably be mucho dinero. I do a bit of prototype-scale work in composites, but I have looked into production tooling and it not be cheap. some processes can have cycle times on the order of a few minutes, but then you’re talking heated, matched molds in a press. also, trimming carbon fiber parts creates a lot of nasty dust and possibly fumes unless you have a multi-axis waterjet handy.

            carbon fiber is probably not the best solution to the (currently hypothetical) heat problem unless you like the marketing cool factor. I wonder if you could get away with a silicone lining of some sort and an air gap around where the hot components would be. you really wouldn’t want to miss the holster, though, as you would probably brand yourself pretty good.

          • Harry’s Holsters

            It’s a good idea for sure I’m just not sure it would fit into my current business model. If I were to do it it’d probably be something I’d outsource. And for the foreseeable future I’ll handle 80% of R&D myself so the question is if the benefits of this product would outweighs what I’m currently working on. I have a feeling my current products have a higher margin.

        • Marc

          Probably just set it on the range bench to cool down when you’re done shooting it. Why would you be in such a hurry to holster it?

          • Harry’s Holsters

            If I run it through a course there will be a lot of holster work. For real world use a pistol that will function for 50rounds between cleaning is sufficient but for training and you need a much more liable gun.

        • kinthral

          You could use the same design as the B&T TP9/MP9 holster. With an appropriate non-marring and heat-resistant material for the muzzle end, it would be holsterable after shooting, and clear of your body while it cools.

          • Harry’s Holsters

            I want something I can run IWB. And that setup has a ton of up front production costs.

  • Vhyrus

    Is it a pain in the ass to field strip? It looks like a pain in the ass to field strip.

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      Anything that good looking is going to be high maintenance.

      • Vhyrus

        At least she’s quiet.
        ….We’re still talking about guns, right?

        • TheNotoriousIUD

          uh…..yeah

    • BryanS

      Saw a video showing how to strip it, lift a lever, push a button, and bam… it comes apart.

  • JumpIf NotZero

    AH.

    Now I see why it’s Keymod and not MLOK. The modular parts of the silencer allow for KM sections to fit in between each. The MLOK would run into the next segment and would probably be too far out for tolerances when attaching something.

    • ostiariusalpha

      Sort of. The middle segment with two KeyMod holes could accommodate an M-Lok slot easily, but you’d have to elongate the other segment with just one KM hole to fit a slot in. Which, if you look at the space in front of the trigger guard, is very doable, though it would alter the slick lines of the integral suppressor a bit.

  • bull

    maxim nine: “Never turn your back on an enemy”

  • Woof– the camera adds ten pounds of ugly. I don’t know what formulation of polymer they used for the production model, but gawt day-um it makes the gun look like a dollar store Chinese capgun if you photograph it in the wrong lighting conditions. Pretty cool spacegun otherwise.

    • guy guyberg

      The plastic on the range day guns is 3D printed, they’re still pre-production prototypes.

    • Bland Samurai

      Glad to see I’m not the only one. This thing is hideous.

  • derfelcadarn

    I get it,silencers are quieter, but they forfeit concealability, portability and handling, so what is it that they actually bring to the table ?

    • iksnilol

      Well, this gun allows you to conceal while suppressed.

      To the table they bring more controllability and quietness (no need to wake up the neighbours… or blow out your ears).

  • joe tusgadaro

    Cyberpunky…..

    • BraveNewWhirled

      It needs a couple knobs that don’t do anything. And maybe a small glass dome for viewing a meter that never moves. And a pressure-relief valve.

      • Joshua

        that would be Steampunk, to really be Cyberpunk it needs some tubes filled with neon cooling fluid, and at least three laser pointers attached to it

        • ostiariusalpha

          Needs a digital round counter also, de rigueur for cyberpunk guns. Preferably LED.

      • joe tusgadaro

        That’s steampunk…hand in your geek card sir!

      • retrocon

        Do this to a revolver that doesn’t revolve, but has a blue laser pointer, and you would have some cool steampunk.

  • iksnilol

    Please make some laser grips.

  • Niguana

    Judge Dredd called, he wants his gun back

  • maodeedee

    Does anybody make an Inside the waistband holster for it for concealed carry?

  • BraveNewWhirled

    The Morse code is the Second Amendment. Amirite?

  • Mister_Jim

    It looks to be big and cumbersome, but that’s a disadvantage of suppressed firearms. It looks like it incorporated something similar to the Glock “anti-safety” as well. That right there is enough to dissuade me.

  • clampdown

    B &T should work with SilencerCo to incorporate something similar into the USW. That extra surface area would be nice when shouldering the pistol.

  • crz6662

    Ugliest gun I’ve ever seen…..