BREAKING: Cali DOJ Releases Personal Information Of ALL Firearms Trainers To Unknown Party

Our reader Tom emailed me after he had been notified by the state of California that his personal information had been compromised as a result of a California Public Records Act. Based on the limited information that we have at this time, it appears that names, the instructor’s date of birth, the instructor California driver’s license number and/or their California ID card number.

When Tom reached out to the CA DOJ he was informed that the entire list of firearms trainers in California had been released in the public records act request. The state of California is sending letters to those affected with the promise of 12 months or identity protection, but if you are a CA firearms instructor and haven’t seen a letter, might bee a good idea to call the DOJ to see if you were affected.

I am not going to get into the politics of California when it pertains to gun owners, even though it makes me so angry that I want to club a baby seal or two. The invasion of privacy, on the other hand, is nothing short of angering. I really feel for all of you shooters that live in a restrictive state, I couldn’t imagine what it is like.

We will be updating this post as we learn more about the data breach and those affected.

The notice sent out to the firearms instructors is below:



  • Squirrel

    Not really a “breach” when the DOJ “inadvertently” included the information in a public records request. Sounds like they are trying to smooth over a f-up with some media friendly buzz words

  • Martin Grønsdal

    is this yet another last-Obama-thing, before he gets Trumped?

    • Major Tom

      Probably. The man has no sense of grace.

    • Kyle Hestand

      Yes, President Obama took time out of his day to take information from the Californian state DOJ and leak it to another party just for the lulz. He is totally that petty. I mean he is constantly on twitter attacking everyone who has ever said anything vaguely negative about him.

      • Martin Grønsdal

        I am Norwegian, but your reply just made me more American than you are.

        • Kyle Hestand

          What? I don’t even know what that is supposed to mean.

          • Martin Grønsdal

            with 5 days left until the new president is sworn into the office, I don’t find your lack of support very helpful. After all, he will be your president too.

          • Lowe0

            While gun ownership is lower among liberal households, it’s not rare, either. Especially with the industry cultivating interest in shooting among millennials, there are plenty of gun owners who want nothing to do with the next President.

          • DonDrapersAcidTrip

            I’m a leftist not a liberal and it’s never not tiresome and soul crushing having to wade through the utter trash fire of hypocrisy and coginitive dissonance that is american gun culture just for gun information

          • Cory C

            Okay, I’ll bite. Can you elaborate on your (forgive the use of the term) manifesto? What makes you tick?

            PS I’m not being a jerk. Genuinely curious as to where you stand.

          • DonDrapersAcidTrip

            I’m pro gun cause they’re an equalizer, like the internet. You’re born poor you can steal basically whatever media you want off the internet instead of have to stare at the wall to pass the time because of the life you were born into. Internet’s also given a voice to people who previously didn’t have one (people crying about political correctness are usually just people upset they have to hear these voices now, interupting their assumption that the status quo is great for everyone else too). You’re born weak or disabled guns make whoever has the biggest muscles irrelevant. I could care less about the 2nd amendment (which actually seems a lot more vague than conservative types seem to want to admit) or what a bunch of old white slave owners thought about anything. Liberals are idiots because they think violence is some bygone outmodded 1800s thing lol. It’s going to be here whether guns are here are not, might as well let everyone have the opportunity to defend themselves, or have the option to resist whatever kind of system they’re born into because whose to say it will always be a right one. The means to dispense violence always belong in the hands of the people and it’s naive to say “okay nobody needs weapons anymore from here on out.” But then conservatives are idiots cause applying nuanced thought to anything is like the plague to them and they want everything to be some black and white gi joe cartoon and are no better than like 1920s guys who thought “crime” was a symptom of a gland imbalance.

            Basically I’m all about equalizing things for people, except unlike libertarians I don’t think abolishing government and regulations does anything but favor the already powerful and entrenched. I’m looking into being a volunteer bodyguard for transwoman, and just the other day I saw a bunch of gun guys mocking whatever change it is they were making to the gender section on a form you fill out to buy gun. It’s like, okay guys, keep telling yourselves what brave freedom fighters you all are, as you bend backwards to defend the instution of law enforcement for blowing away some kid for holding a cellphone between routinely mocking the worst off people out there.

          • Mystick

            We don’t “have” to hear those voices… For instance, Disqus has a user mute/ignore function, neutering those who continually spout BS. Ahh… there it is… blessed silence.

          • DonDrapersAcidTrip

            Like I said about nuanced thinking being a plague to conservatives

          • Mystick

            Of course, thinking anything other than the prescribed thoughts is anathema to the fascist left.

          • DonDrapersAcidTrip

            Yeah in your cartoon idea of the left

          • Mystick

            It’s top-down social control under the veil of “progress”, plain and simple. Divide and conquer.

          • Martin Grønsdal

            I agree. But the new president is the new president.

            For an American wanting him to fail is wanting America to fail also.

          • .45

            The President can fail harder than my attempts at wooing supermodels and the country will still be fine, in so long as his failures are more on a personal level.

          • Edeco

            I’d call the last part a non sequitur. We’re bigger than any of our employees. Not that I want him to fail, but you’re mixing up the tail and the dog here.

          • DonDrapersAcidTrip

            I thought you were norwegian, so why are going around demanding everyone fall to their knees in fealty to the american president

          • Martin Grønsdal

            am I? Please copy/paste any of my comments that would suggest that.

          • Edeco

            Hopefully he’ll use the opportunity to give me presents like over the counter suppressors. I try be a positive ion so a steady flow of relatively good news will keep me mollified. But it’s all about me. My end of the deal is I pay taxes, I obey the laws, I’m part of society. Loving him, speaking kindly, hoping for the best isn’t part of the deal. It’s a joke, they don’t need my kind thoughts and prayers to fund the military.

        • Malthrak

          The point was that Obama, as President of the *Federal* government, has nothing to do with California *State* government DoJ’s actions.

          US Civics 101…

          • Martin Grønsdal

            I was criticising the last part of that comment.

          • Cory C

            That most certainly should be the case, but it has clearly been the prerogative of left-leaning folks to blur the line.

        • DanGoodShot

          That was a fantastic response!

          • Martin Grønsdal

            Thank you

      • ??

        His hatred for the United States and “gun folks” is obvious. I wouldn’t be surprised if this actually Did happened in between his golfing and racebaiting schedules .

      • Cat Mingus

        No, REAL petty is his cutting up with others and taking selfies at Nelson Mandela’s funeral.

    • Mike

      No, this is typical cali foolishness

    • Quest

      Read the damn rules. No politics. No strange politic speculations.

  • KestrelBike

    Hopefully someone/group sues the piss out of that idiot kamala harris.

    • Major Tom

      It’s California, I swear you can sue anything for any reason over there EXCEPT matters of government like this.

    • jimmy craked corn

      It will be dismissed quicker than 16 year old getting his dip stick wet for the first time.

      • iksnilol

        But the dip stick is always wet… Or does oil in the US work differently?

        • .45

          Yes, here in America oil is so not wet that we have been known to use it to protect items from water, so the dip stick is rarely wet at all. ;D

          • iksnilol

            Waaait a minute

            Was that a double entendre!? ON TFB!? THIS PLACE IS PG-13, GOOD SIR!

          • .45

            I can neither confirm nor deny any rumors as to the exact meanings of any statements I make that may or not be intended as humorous. Any semblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental. No animals were harmed in the making of this post.

  • FrenchKiss

    I want to know who requested the information in the first place. Those people should be allowed to conceal carry if they can’t already.

  • A Guest

    it’s the “inadvertently” that gets me.

  • Gary Kirk

    We’ve already released your private information… What we’re doing to protect your information..

    • Nashvone

      “In case you haven’t already figured it out, your personal information was released MONTHS ago.”

      • Gary Kirk

        In case you haven’t figured it out, your “personal information” doesn’t need to be released.. It’s available to the highest bidder (not to mention the government has it at all time) at any time.. Be comfortable humble sheep..

  • Tim Pearce

    “Oh no! Look what we have done accidentally on purpose.”

    • Justin Roney

      This. Anyone that thinks this is accidental is fooling themselves.

      • Mike

        Gentlemen, you are correct!

    • let this remind everyone that jerry brown is no friend of the constitutional rights guranteed to citizens

      • jay

        Nor is gavin the newsome. The man who would be king. He and de leon are to be watched. Both are extremely hungry for power.

  • Joseph Goins

    What I take away from this is that 1) “firearms instructor” is a regulated job — even for civilians — that requires registering with the government and/or 2) the people affected are law enforcement trainers who passed a series of tests.

  • Ian Engle

    Another thing that pisses me off about this is:

    “We gave out your private info on accident. So please use this service to protect you info, by giving it more of your info”

    • Edeco

      Yep. I generally dislike those services, shady and rude, unethical conflict of interest think.

  • SickofBSCA

    We need to either 1.) Reclaim California as a legal part of the USA by enforcing the U.S. Constitution there or 2.) officially kick them out of the union, 2/3rds of the US’s debt comes from CA so good riddance.

    • Richie

      False. Not sure if you are trolling but that is not even close. About 10% of Federal spending goes to CA, while 11% of tax revenue comes from CA, for a state that has 12% of the entire population, with a resultant 15% of the national debt.

  • Edeco

    Rex non potest peccare.

  • YS

    “12 months of identity protection”? How about allowing these victims to purchase regular capacity magazines for their SD/HD weapons so they can protect their lives instead?

  • nadnerbus

    Who does California think they are, the federal OPM? Why, someone might just get a sternly worded letter placed in their file over this.

    I really need to get out of private industry and into the government sector. This being responsible for my actions stuff is a drag.

  • USMC03Vet

    Some animals are more equal than others.

  • Tassiebush

    This is the typical problem of treating gun owners and users as more of a security issue than an insecurely maintained data base listing them. Such lists are pretty much a gold mine for criminal use. I am angry for those impacted by this.
    In 2015 we discovered our state firearm registry (Tasmania Australia) had never logged who viewed it and also discovered it was normal practice for police who were checking firearm storage to discuss details of address and firearms over insecure radio networks that can be eavesdropped with a phone app or scanners. This came to light during a heavy spate of firearm thefts including some home invasions. The antis called for tighter restrictions. The government never acknowledged that these practices were highly likely to have fueled the spate of thefts. Don’t trust databases.

    • VanDiemensLand

      Hahaha It was all just coincidence though, right? 😉

      • Tassiebush

        Yeah it isn’t possible that the database was linked to that crime wave… I don’t care if there was a pattern or that individual police officers generally thought it was linked. Clearly if the politicians and senior levels of tas police think there’s no link, but rather it’s gun owners to blame for not being secretive enough then clearly we’re to blame. Clearly more gun control is needed to fix the problem of poorly applied gun control…
        I even remember Roland Browne was trying to pretend that stolen rifles and shotguns stolen from tas were arming the handgun using Middle Eastern crime gangs in Western Sydney which were so prolific in their drive by shootings.

        • VanDiemensLand

          What a crock! It was so clearly the some MO used to steal those firearms, they were good too. Just deny and repeat.

      • Tassiebush

        We definitely ought to chew some pollies ears on the issue if we get a chance. I’ve missed the occasional door knock

  • John

    As a progressive environmentalist, I’m feeling the need to buy more firearms. I really, REALLY don’t like these “accidental” security breaches that just so happen to be released to “unspecified” third parties all the time.

    I’d rather “they” knew I was armed, instead of unarmed.

    • Cory C

      I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or serious, but everyone should have a reasonable degree of fear of becoming part of a vilified group / should arm themselves accordingly. I very seriously doubt that I will ever have to take up arms against my government. Maybe a .001% chance. I feel it’s unlikely precisely because of how effective our system of government is of accommodating dissent of all kinds. However, one would have to be ignorant of human history to think that things couldn’t ever change, so arming oneself is a natural reaction / precaution.

  • Shayne

    I wonder if this affects those that live outside Cali. that came into the state to train people / police. Might just be related to CCW and licensee.

  • Mystick

    This is why I don’t want a registry. The government cannot be trusted – through politics of bureaucratic negligence – with identity data. It is not a good steward for our information it seems to demand in totality nowadays.

  • gunsandrockets

    What do you expect? It’s California.

  • Ambassador Vader

    When people ask why don’t you like the idea of state registries, just point to this.

  • jay

    Maybe it’s time that all the top kaliforniastan doj employee’s data, and politicians data were “accidentally” leaked. Since they already have armed body guards, it shouldn’t be too much trouble, for them. Besides no one (sane or not) would try to hurt them.

  • Jake

    “12 months or identity protection”

    Ill choose the 12 months, thanks.

  • TimeHasCome

    Just under 100 hours and the Idiot and Chief will be history along with the gun grabbers.

  • Jeffrey Smith

    If you live there, you are used to this crap by now. If you have left, congrats on your new found freedom!

    • Rob

      I live in Minnesota now and got this letter. They still found ways to mess with me.

  • blad

    The “unidentified” was Soros funded Southern Poverty Law Center.

  • blad

    Next comes all the “registered” assualt weapons for Jan 17. Then handgun owners then all gun owners who dros guns legally.

  • blad

    And Obummer and crew are shredding illegal alien/muslim refugee docs so trump cannot deport them.

  • You really should edit the headline. The California DOJ did not release info on all trainers. It was only those trainers in the state.

  • Those FEMA camps must be gettin’ a heck of a workout, what with all the ideologically mutually exclusive groups convinced they’re next in the cattle cars.

  • Phillip Cooper

    This is clearly *NOT* a breach. It’s intentional malfeasance.

  • l2a3

    Time to start providing elected officials and State government employees data out also. I mean it is only fair (as they would say). Karma can be a problem at times, don’t ya know.

  • Aint So

    “I want to club a baby seal or two”. I would say the sooner this idiotic jibe disappears from our dialogue, the better. Whenever you feel an irresistible urge to employ it, begin to club yourself and the urge will soon dissipate.

  • Jen Boswell

    I hope a LAWSUIT will be filed!

  • BigR

    Knowing “californication”, it was done on purpose!!!!!!!!!!

  • Warrior24_7

    Uh-oh, here come the paranoid conspiracy nuts, who draw down on their shadows. What someone should do is sue to find out who that “requester” was. They seem to be protecting “his/their” identities pretty well! But if you’re soooo afraid of the “guvament” coming after you because you a 9mm pistol, then quit giving the guvament your information! It’s a conspiracy racket for the ignorant.

  • Beachhawk

    This is just another example of the efforts by liberals to run gun owners out of the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia.

  • Mystick

    What’s you’re seeing in the behavior of those on the modern left is the same things you saw right after WWI in Germany. Political intimidation, harassment of political opponent supporters… if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck… what we have here is fascism of the left, plain and simple.

    • DonDrapersAcidTrip

      No, what you’re seeing is people you dehumanize (which was perfectly okay and not “social control” for boring straight white men somehow because rules only apply to other people) having a voice to criticize you finally. You think people being mean to you on the internet for being a bigot is “tyranny” because you’re a sensitive moron I guess

  • DonDrapersAcidTrip

    Aw is the poor snowflake feeling dehumanized!? For supposed big macho tough guys you types can’t even handle self-analysis and criticism and have the most fragile egos in existence. Do you think people who shot nazis were suddenly indistinguishable from nazis themselves because all violence is bad? What’s that, no?? Weird. Because when it comes to race or gender or about anything else you all seem to want to believe we live in some contextless history free vacuum where all things are equal to all other things. “why isn’t there a white history month, all lives matter, yadda yadda yadda.” Like I said nuanced thought is the plague to you people. You prefer the cartoon fan fiction version of reality in your head.

    If you really actually think you, a white man, facing mild criticism on a comment thread on the internet is remotely comparable to what say, trans people for example, have to live with literally every second of their existence, from day one in this country, well it’s either a demonstration of an embarassing amount of ignorance or just emblematic of how empathy deprived and unconcerned with anyone outside yourselves you people are.

    What liberals are on guns, conservatives are on literally every other topic under the sun lol.

    • Mystick

      Looking at your posting history, it’s obvious you’re just a troll who goes around riling people up to get your own ego stroked. blacklisted and reported.

      • DonDrapersAcidTrip

        Called a troll because I said things you didn’t agree with and blacklisted and reported. by the guy who was going on about how the left doesn’t tolerate any difference of opinion. LMAO If you were capable of it this could of been a learning moment for you.