The German Police are bringing back an oldie but goodie for self protection. Chainmail. Due to the rise in machete and axe attacks, some police are donning a tried and true method to protect themselves. It definitely looks cool and functional for this fall season!

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  • Andrew Miller

    All that gun control is sure working out well.

    • Marc

      German police officers killed in the line of duty by an attacker 2015: 1

      • Steve

        How many German women have been raped in that same year?

        • SaltatorMortis

          your question is unanswerable…
          check wikipedia yourself

          • Steve

            The question was actually rhetorical and meant as a statement of the failure of multiculuralism.

          • DonDrapersAcidTrip

            “failure of multiculuralism”
            gimme a break. you want to be terrified of brown people as a personal choice fine lol, but quit trying to rewrite reality to fit that narrative.

          • DaveP.

            The bank called… your race card is overdrawn.

          • DonDrapersAcidTrip

            you know saying “no YOU are the racist because you were the first to acknowledge the role race plays and whoever uses the R word first is it” doesn’t actually make sense. that’s child logic

          • iksnilol

            But multiculturalism isn’t really a failure. I mean, the US itself is based on the damn concept.

          • Ron

            Actually that is not the case, multiculturalism has been a post WWII progressive response to the previous American concept of the melting pot.

          • iksnilol

            I dunno, even before WW2 people gathered together with other similar people (Italians with other Italians, Chinese with other Chinese and so on).

          • Steve

            Having an in group preference is human nature. But all of these people assimilated into society. Thus, melting pot. All of these cultures chose to obey the laws of the land. All of these groups contributed to society.

            The rapeugees flooding Europe are abiding by Sharia law and disregard the law of the land they are leeching off of. They have no skills, most of them are illiterate and refuse to work.

            An apples to oranges comparison, really.

          • iksnilol

            That’s integration, since these folks did keep their culture and language. Assimilated ones are mentally corpses, with no real belonging anywhere.

        • micmac80

          You can bat less than on only one US college campus .

          Germany is super low in violent crime

          • Steve

            Unlikely, as 1 in 52.6 experience sexual assault as defined by law. Which includes rape and groping.

            Though how that compares to areas with massive rapeugees allowed in by Merkel’s Soros funded open boarders policies, we may never actually know until her administration is outed.

          • Bill

            The figure in the US is 1 in 4.

      • Any idea how many were attacked with edged weapons? If so, any information on how that compares with previous years?

        • Marc

          The one police officer killed was stabbed by a drunk criminal while the latter was being detained for fare dodging.
          2014: 0; 2013: 1; 2012:0; 2011: 1; 2010: 1; 2009: 0; 2008: 0; 2007: 3; 2006: 1; 2005: 0; 2004: 0; 2003: 1; 2002: 2; 2001: 1; 2000: 8

    • Kronos007

      In Germany are about 20-40 million guns in illegal ownership compared to 5 million legal guns.

      • DrewN

        I grew up in West Germany in the 70’s as an AF brat, and shot air rifle and clays. I can confirm some Germans and Americans living in Germany have (or did have) quite impressive collections.

    • micmac80

      Actualy Germans own plenty guns and you can only dream of their low violent crime rates.

      for population of 80mio there are some 60 mio guns , only 5.5 mio are rigistered as until some time in the 70s guns were not registered and many didn’t bother to register theirs.

  • PeterK

    🙁

  • TechnoTriticale

    Also good against landsharks.

    • “Candygram”

      • Michael Hardy

        “Pizza Guy”

    • Jack Gamatta

      Yeah but will all that chain mail protect me from my german chemist ex wife???

    • Tassiebush

      What about sharknados? I saw a documentary about them the other day.

  • Joshua

    I would not want to be them. Chainmail is no joke in weight and heat.

    • Mr Mxyzptlk

      Chainmail isn’t hot, it is by its nature massively breathable. It is pretty heavy though, although this can be somewhat alleviated by wearing it correctly.

      • It’s not hot in the way that some clothes retain heat, but I imagine wearing it in the sun will heat it up a bit. I know you can leave a wrench laying in the Florida sun and it will be very hot to the touch in just a short period of time. Thankfully, Germany isn’t Florida.

      • marathag

        Chainmail was hot from the padding underneath.
        You needed that for impact weapons.
        Otherwise mail is worthless against clubs

        and the weight is almost all on your shoulders

        • Peadair

          Which is why you wear a belt with a chain shirt, the belt helps with weight distribution.

          • marathag

            These guys really didn’t seem to be wearing the full length hauberk where that helps, but the shorter coat

      • Cuvie

        It’s heavy, but the weight is distributed more evenly than a ballistic vest

    • Lee Attiny

      Thats why I only wear Noveske Titanium chainmail.

  • whodywei

    Bring back gothic armors.

  • Edeco

    Due to fear of attack by Jorg Sprave.

    • wetcorps

      If Joerg was after you you’d need more than mere chainmail.

      • Tassiebush

        I could think of worse people to be murdered by. His jolly laugh and temperament would put me at ease.

        • BDUB

          Let me show you its features.

  • Martin M

    It’s medieval times all over again. A weakened Europe being invaded. I suppose you’d just as well dress the part.

  • Mr Mxyzptlk

    This chainmail looks really crappy. The links are very small and fine, I would guess that it is stainless steel, and it looks like it is just butted rather than riveted. This would be fine against knives, but anything like an axe or possibly even a hearty machete swing would pop the links.

    • Edeco

      Not welded?

    • Marc

      It’s most certainly based on protective gear for slaughter houses and those are made from machine welded stainless steel.

    • Tierlieb

      That is probably made from 7mm welded and hardened stainless rings. Pretty common for anything from shark diving to fashionable butchers (though they go for smaller rings) to those reenactors that care more about protection that authenticity.

      Probably made by Ziegler Metallgewebe in this case, who provide the ring mesh in stab protection inserts for modern body armour, too. No problem with machetes or swords or even daggers.

      Pickaxes will be a problem with any kind of mail, but the system compares well to riveted, more authentic versions.

  • Trey

    They are bringing back the Crusade! All this LARPers that were the nerds making chain mail in their mom’s basement now have a marketable skill. (other than that Bachelor’s degree in Computer Science)

    • Bob

      Not really. The stuff Larpers make is pretty much bottom trier mail. You want riveted or welded links for real work, not just some butted wire.

      • A bearded being from beyond ti

        You have experience in this field?

        • meadmkr

          Bob is spot on… riveted or welded is the way to go along with real steel rings. I can’t speak for the LARP folks but many in SCA or skirmish groups use larger rings made out of aluminum due to weight/cost/time. Looks fine but wouldn’t stand up to multiple sharp knife thrusts. Same with scale-mail as well.

          • Tom

            Butted mail is historical and fairly useful also worth remembering that historicaly mail was not worn on its own but with a gambeson which itself offered good protection against blows.

            Mail is not that effective against axes or needle blades (hence why they were used in combat). Of course riveted is superior but in this case its more for protection from machetes so butted mail (as long as its made out of proper steel) will do fine. That being said I would opt for some mail made from stainless steel split washer that stuff is practically indestructible.

          • meadmkr

            As one that has wound far far too many coils of steel & brass wire on a mandrel attached to a power-drill I have a lot of respect for armorers of days long ago 🙂

          • ReverendDraco✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ᵃᶜᶜᵒᵘᶰᵗ

            Good grief – we used a length of all-thread and a pair of vicegrips. . .
            Cut the rings with a small bolt cutter so they wouldn’t go flying when they popped loose.

          • meadmkr

            The mandrel had a slot in it to run a dremel & cutting wheel. I learned that putting a strip of duct tape on the back before cutting it kept about 90% of them from flying off. .

        • DaveP.

          I’ve actually helped make chainmail and he’s right. The iron or steel wire used is fairly ductile and the links are butted (just squeezed together with pliers) instead of being welded, so while the mail is pretty good against, say, a slash with a butcher knife it’s not gonna work all that well against a hatchet or even a straight thrust with a sharpened piece of rebar.

          • n0truscotsman

            I, um, like your style!

      • DrewN

        Traditionally riveted, yeah? You flatten the ends of each ring and make a hole then rivet each link. What a PITA that must be.

        • Marcus D.

          I suppose there was not a whole lot to do all winter long when you have no TV, radio or newspaper, and you live in an almost entirely agrarian society. Still, I wouldn’t want to be the one doing it. I’ve always wondered of the modern mesh used in butcher’s gloves might be a feasible alternative.

      • The Silencer

        Actually I know LARPers that make riveted chainmail. Its not that rare whete I live.

      • gunsandrockets

        That stuff in the photos looks like the small diameter ring welded stainless steel type.

        • David Richardson

          it is, it is the same stuff used in butcher gloves and high strength industrial curtains.

    • Nomar Abdiel Vazquez Vazquez

      And here I thought that Computer Science was promising career field!

    • Anomanom

      DEUS VULT!

      (okay, maybe not)

    • Paladin

      well, the first crusade was largely a response to Muslim aggression in south eastern Europe and piracy in the Mediterranean, I suppose history repeats itself.

  • Raginzerker

    As much as I wanna make fun of this i kinda like it

  • Bob

    Looks like they’re wearing anti shark stuff. Not sure how good that is against melee weapons, but it is certainly better than nothing. A good tailoring would cut the weight down and make it more comfortable to wear though.

    • Marcus D.

      Padded jackets of various densities and construction were used under chain as protection against blunt force trauma. The gambeson allowed a certain level of deformation, which aided in reducing cut throughs that chain over a hard surface, such as boiled leather, would not prevent. However, a hard surface can be included below the gambeson, but then one is running into issues with heat retention. Weight was not as much as an issue, as professional soldiers wore their gear all the time and were accustomed to the weight, much as soldiers are accustomed to their pack out today.

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    They should have a waiting period for swords.

    • Bob

      Well in some parts or maybe all of the UK they’ve banned cheap katanas because petty thieves were using them for robberies. Now you can only buy high quality stuff and I think you need a collector’s license.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Wow.

      • Graham2

        There are no local laws in the UK, laws are national. Some types of knife are banned but there are all sorts of knives for sale in the UK, that law abiding people (and the lawless) can buy.

        • Jonathan Ferguson

          Not quite. English, Scottish, & N Irish law are all different.

          • Tom

            Also whilst not part of the UK I guess most people think they are so worth pointing out that the Isle of Man, Jersey and Guernsey all have their own laws too.

        • The Forty ‘Twa

          There is no national legal system in the UK, there are three different (and distinct) legal systems. The Scottish legal system in particular is quite different to the other two.

      • Ken

        Japan already had that for decades. Cheap swords are banned. Only “real” stuff with provenance is legal unless you have special permits for the cheap stuff.

        • Edeco

          I guess Pearl-Tiger-Ronin-Damascus katana’s from BudK are out.

      • DrewNd

        To be fair, katanas are pretty much sabers, designed primarily to slash unarmoured peasants. Pretty much any late European sword is much superior overall.

        • Voice_of_Reason

          certainly superior when armor and/or shields are in play, since they were used for stabbing through weak spots in armor.

          the myth of the samurai sword being unbeatable is total nonsense. a half-trained newly-minted knight in good armor with a shield and a mace would make short work of an unarmored (or lacquer-armored) samurai, if the samurai were stupid enough to try to sword fight.

          • Tom

            Lets be fair if the Knight gets armour so does the Samurai. Of course European metallurgy being that much more advanced the Knight has a massive advantage. But then again for nether the knight nor the samurai was the sword a primary weapon pole arms being much more useful for raining death down upon your enemies.

          • Voice_of_Reason

            Why give the samurai something they didn’t actually have? their “armor” was not equivalent to western armor. Even though the steel of the katana was arguably more advanced than the steel of western swords, their armor was mostly leather, with a little iron and lacquer.

            a slicing weapon such as a samurai sword is completely useless against a western knight’s armor, although the sword works wonders against bare flesh.

            I agree that sword were not nearly as important in medievel combat as hollywood tends to portray. And no one would be cutting off armored arms/legs with a simple sword stroke, a la Monty Python’s Black Kinght. But a western knight would also be much better protected against pole-arms and projectile weapons that his japanese counterparts.

          • Tom

            The Japanese did have iron and steel armour sometimes with mail voiders which offered good protection if not quite in the same league as proper harness. Also it was rare and expensive and only the very elite had it but it did exists. Of course its unlikely that our samurai would have such armour but then again by the heyday of the Samurai the European knight had already fallen out of favor and short of modern ballistic materials and steels no armour is defeating a musket ball.

            Also Japanese steel and forging techniques are by no means more advanced than European ones. The rather elaborate techniques the Japanese used were necessitated by the poor quality iron ore the smiths had to work with. Europeans had previously used similar techniques (both in creating steel and patter welding blades) but by the 10th century were able to make much more consistent [in carbon content] steel in much higher volumes than the Japanese. This allowed for far more experimentation than in Japan where the scarcity of steel meant smiths basically stuck with what they had not because it was the best but because it generally worked well enough. As you point out the ‘fully’ armoured knight is a uniquely European concept no other society having ether the necessary resources or technology to accomplish such a feat.

            Though credit where its due Japanese blades are typical harder (higher carbon content on the edge) and thus can have a sharper edge but ultimately swords only need to be so sharp to work. Pattern welding may may good looking blades buts they are by no means better and certainly fail on the economic argument.

          • Voice_of_Reason

            I agree with you. There were, however, samurai in japan contemporaneous with the medieval period of Europe – and they weren’t nearly as well armed or armored as the european knight. even the later samurai – made famous by hollywood – were inferior in armaments and armor to the european knights who proceeded them by several hundred years.

          • Tom

            I agree. Basically Japan never had the resources or tech of Europe. So in any fight the Europeans have a massive advantage. Of course if Japan was next to Europe I imagine they would ether have to develop to the same level of Europe or would be overrun by the technological/economical/population superior Europeans.

          • OdinNG

            I don’t think Japanese will use sword against western bucket head if this fight was going to happen. Sword (Kantata) is used for duel but not mainly on battlefield. Most people use yuri (Japanese Spear), bows and guns If late 15th century.

            Besides, if it’s a one on one fight. Heavy armor doesn’t mean you are going to win because it also means you are moving much slower and attacking slower. Therefore the best strategy is to ride a horse with heavy armor. Guess what?

          • Paladin

            The Japanese spear is called a Yari (槍). Yuri is a girl’s name, meaning “lily”, and also refers to works of fiction focusing on.. ahem.. girl on girl action.

          • Coast

            Also, most people don’t realize the samurais primary weapon was the bow. The sword was for show, and if you got into a sword fight it was considered a failure because you should have hit the guy with an arrow before he got close enough to use a sword. I dont care how much armor your wearing (current ceramic aside) a 3 foot arrow with steel tip fired from a 6 foot tall bow is gonna do some damage. It wasn’t until the 17th century that what people think of as samurai came about. If you look at the old artwork depicting samurai they are usually shown holding a bow often on horseback. End history rant.

          • Voice_of_Reason

            i don’t think the japanese bows were anywhere near as powerful as the english longbow.

          • Tom

            As I understand it Japanese bows have a much lighter draw and typicaly shoot much lighter arrows so I would say the Welsh/English longbow is superior, plus its much easier to make so you have a massive economic advantage. And its worth remembering that even the famed Longbow would only penetrate hardened plate at close range. The real advantage was the rate of fire and volume of arrows that could be put out. If you fire enough some will get through but it would be very foolish to rely on a single shot putting down an armoured man – especially one galloping towards you on his horse with a lance.

            Context of course is key, if the Japanese had heavier/more effective armour then they would have developed better bows like the Europeans did.

          • RSG

            “I don’t care how much armor you’re wearing”. Except that hard plates of any kind will stop these arrows 100% of the time.

  • Hernando Cardona

    They look like the Pork Eating Crusader patch guys.

  • A bearded being from beyond ti

    Somebody got a little bit to excited about the ISO levels on that top picture.

  • Good fences make good neighbors and no fences mean your police have to wear chainmail.

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      Or your neighbor is Garth Brooks.

      • John

        Wait, what am I missing? What did Garth do?

        • TheNotoriousIUD

          Nothing, “No Fences” is the name of one of his albums.

    • DonDrapersAcidTrip

      knew you were gonna be here making some trash ass comment about your fear of brown people

      • Steve

        Good job projecting your racism. Muslims of all races exist, the ideology is the problem and is incompatible with western culture. The skin color is irrelevant.

        • DonDrapersAcidTrip

          Then why when a dead eyed white kid shoots up a school cause a girl told him no, which is way more likely in this country, don’t any of you types act like the sky is falling. Or is that an ideology more compatible with the good old sociopathic pursuit of profit.

          • Cory C

            If it makes you feel better, I hate terrorism but don’t hate Muslims. Also, I consider mass shootings of any stamp to be an act of terrorism.

          • DIR911911 .

            you were the first person to mention “brown people” , his line was about fences . . . or are you just going to overlook that?

          • DonDrapersAcidTrip

            “you were the first person to mention “brown people”” = first person to mention “race” other than code words for it is the actual racist, according to the childrens logic of conservative bigoted nationalists, yeah I pointed that out already

        • DonDrapersAcidTrip

          also “projecting your racism” uh you know plugging your ears and saying “no actually YOU are the racist for being the first to use the r word or attempting to acknowledge racial realities of the world” has never made sense ever no matter how many idiots love to say that. lmao.

          I bet your also one of those people who when people protest you say “why don’t you just go to some authoritarian country and try that so that by you leaving here and going there we can make this place more like the authoritarian country I pretend to hate but secretly get off on how ‘tough’ their image is and I only like freedom in theory anyway” loool

          I don’t know what’s going on exactly but there is a serious self-awareness drought a lot of you are suffering from.

      • You knew I would be here? Why do you think about me? I don’t know you.

        • DonDrapersAcidTrip

          because The Thing is a classic and seeing the avatar paired up with so many dumb comments time after time sticks

          • Sgt. Stedenko

            Somebody went to Costco and bought a pallet of butthurt salad.

          • DonDrapersAcidTrip

            For people who think they’re such rugged individualists, personality wise it’s like you all come off an assembly line

          • Billy Jack

            Personality wise it’s like you just staggered out of a mental health clinic.

          • Kurt Akemann

            Or his “acid trip” was from brown acid.

          • DonDrapersAcidTrip

            The classic conservative old man comment who has to say something about my username and Them Drugs Them Kids Do lol. it literally is like you all come off an assembly line

          • jay

            I was going to say he took the whole vial, not just a stamp.

      • Voice_of_Reason

        so you think brown people are not good neighbors??

        • Billy Jack

          Exactly. How do you get race out of a variation of a very widely used saying about fences and neighbors?
          Is DonDraper trolling or is he borderline mentally ill?

          • Steve

            From his posts, both.

          • Machinegunnertim

            “conservative bigoted nationalists”, secret racist “code words”, Definitley mentally ill.

          • Billy Jack

            Let this be a lesson to us all. Never take the brown acid.

          • DonDrapersAcidTrip

            Says the guy who goes to inforwars lmao

          • Billy Jack

            Is that your explanation for how you saw a racial reference in a completely innocent post? I suppose logic is racist too and you’re forced to come with ad hominems.

          • DonDrapersAcidTrip

            Yeah who am I see to racial references in posts by “Frosty the White Man” who has a history of complaining about immigrants and foreigners, I mean that would just be crazy

          • Billy Jack

            Syrian immigrants, like the Syrian population, are comprised of different ethnic groups but most are what would be considered Caucasians and even the Arabs are on the Caucasian side of the Arab racial scale, if you can imagine such a thing. I add that since many Sudanese Africans refer to themselves as Arabs, despite many being darker in complexion to most other Africans, to escape being tied to animist Africans who are targeted for death and looked down upon by many in the Islamic culture in that region. There are Armenian Syrians, Alawites and a host of others who are mostly not brown at all. So go off on his anti-immigration stance, reference your guess or knowledge about his anti-islamic or whatever other cultural bigotry his remarks show, but it’s not about how brown the people moving to Germany are. Nations bordering the Mediterranean are where the majority of “Brown” economic and political refugees end up – Italy, Spain and increasingly Greece now the NATO and others have increased sea patrols that stop small vessels attempting to cross from Northern Africa.

            So, in comments to an article about German police protecting themselves from a new form of attacks initiated largely by a new group of non-Turk Islamic refugees from Syria(they didn’t roll out the chainmail for the hundreds of thousands of Turks who live in Germany), and a comment on how the current German immigration policy has not been able to effectively screen out Jihadists pretending to be refugees, such a reply cannot be dismissed as mere bigotry. Frosty has not manufactured the circumstances being discussed nor has he been crude in his choice of words in this thread.

            With the right haircut and language skills many of the immigrants being discussed would look at home in the streets of Milan, Grozny, Athens and Madrid so stop with the racial references. There are other terms that describe what you’re intending to rail against. The word you’re searching for is bigotry or bigot, bigoted, discriminatory. There are others.

          • Tassiebush

            I’m coming at it from a non American angle but I haven’t ever seen frosty say anything i’d consider to be racist. As for Germany if you have an immigration system that does nothing to manage risk it seems pretty unsatisfactory and a fair target for criticism. I’m not against humanitarian intakes and I’m very much pro foreign aid and development but if countries don’t manage their borders it impacts negatively on their citizens and that impacts on the value of citizenship which is the basis of our rights.

  • LazyReader

    Hard as dragon scales, yet light as cloth, forged by the dwarves no doubt.

    • Dougscamo

      Of mithril (sp?} no doubt….

  • Harry’s Holsters

    How much is this? I can’t explain why, I don’t even know why but I want some.

    • Edeco

      I get that from lobster-tailed-pot helmets. The ones with bars are soothing; businesslike, not menacing. Like how the culture of the English Civil War was less foul than that of the 30 Years War.

    • David Richardson

      about $300 for the tunic and about 100 dollars for the helmet.

      • Harry’s Holsters

        But where can I buy it?

  • micmac80

    As edged weapon threat is the most common at least one or 2 assaulters use chanmail in situation where its suspected and so they can subdue the person without resorting to deadly force. In germany police killls under 10 people per year unilike US where cops kill 1100 or so people in roughly 3.5x larger population of US than germany.

    • Z

      What’s wrong with deadly force?

      • DIR911911 .

        it’s OVERUSED

        • Friendly Man

          Yeah, it’s really terrible when people who attack random people and police die. Really a major loss.

          • micmac80

            In any case its handled by the courts and legal system , not police executioners.

          • Ron

            There actually has been a significant reduction in the usage of deadly force by law enforcement in the Western World in the last 50 years.
            The paradigm has shifted from it as a tool to effect a capture, remember the fleeing felon rule, to one which the person effecting the capture now has to feel a threat to their life prior to using deadly force.

          • iksnilol

            Say that to all the falsely accused folks getting shot up… or the bystanders.

            Your mentality is messed up if your first resort is killing.

          • ArjunaKunti

            It is totally OK to use deadly police and paramilitar force en masse only if this effectively makes the life of the ‘good taxpayers’ easier. Just look at the very effective Phillippino prime minister. They use dead squads against drug dealers in the streets without any juristical procedure. How could the corrupted courts handle all these ‘scum of the earth people’ en masse?

      • joe

        Combatives (fists, holds, sticks, etc) IS deadly force. It’s easier to regulate but takes more training to do effectively.

        • Ron

          yes and no, the legal definition is An amount of force that is likely to cause either serious bodily injury or death to another person.

  • Brocus

    Source?

    • Brocus

      No, seriously. All I can find online is posts on IGN, pinterest, 4chan and reddit about this. Did you contact whatever German PD the persons depicted work for and ask for comment? Know German and have some credible source in that language which corroborates the story?

      • Brocus

        you guys didn’t like my comment about this having been in use since before 2009 with a link to a source or where did it go?

        • Twilight sparkle

          They vet all comments with links

        • marathag

          use .Com rather than dot com

  • jono102

    Given the large number of transient refugee’s and immigrants they are getting. Knives, dogs and the like would be a pretty common weapon to encounter on the job, especially when trying to detain or subdue someone. Plate carriers and the like would offer limited protection especially arms and necks. Chain mail would offer a reasonably good addition to standard armour for this.

  • junyo
  • Jrggrop

    I’m not sure how useful mail will be without padding underneath. Even if a machete or axe doesn’t penetrate, the blunt force could still cause significant injuries without a gambeson equivalent.

    • David Richardson

      its better to get bruised than cut. Its not like a ballistic best makes it pleasant to get shot either.

  • snakebit

    No good against an axe….an axe is an anti Armour weapon…also terrible against tazers

  • Chainmail heavy enough to be effective against actual melee weapons is too cumbersome to be practical for modern police work, the only place it would have much utility is as a flexible covering over joints and as a bridge between the gaps in synthetic fiber body armor.

    If you really want functional lightweight body armor to protect against slash/chop/stab attacks, wear standard aramid-and-plastic riot gear and add a few plates of plain ol’ #2 plastic to key areas; a quarter inch of #2 with some padding behind it is functionally immune to anything short of a warhammer or a splitting axe wielded by a man-mountain.

    • Tassiebush

      I think the main advantage is you can pop a mail shirt or tunic on very quickly so if it was used in that context it could be left in the boot of the car and grabbed when needed without lots of awkward straps to do up.

  • DonDrapersAcidTrip

    Yeah let’s get our news from tabloids and dudes who rant about feminist indocrination lmao

    • Steve

      Says the social justice warrior. Go back to Tumblr.

      • DonDrapersAcidTrip

        Says the regressive moron. Do people just not realize what clueless cartoon villains they sound like using “Social justice warrior” as an epithet? Go back to ranting about big government tyranny coming to take your guns but when actual injustices happen in real life, telling people to fall in line and kiss the scepter of their local police precinct. You have no self-awareness whatsoever

        • Steve

          Lol, a regressive leftist calling someone regressive. The cognitive dissonance is amazing. Run away to your safe space. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/474e173fdb471f8f41a96c5347ff07f8db424a37a8c090060129c827d4d69bc7.gif

          • DonDrapersAcidTrip

            yeah self awareness really isn’t your strong suit

        • Ron

          And the Pseudo-intellection don’t realize that both Moa and Adolph were big fan of selling social justice also.

          • DonDrapersAcidTrip

            This is literally the dumbest comment I’ve ever read

        • RSG

          Why are you here? You lost all legitimacy when you said no one is coming for your guns. So modern sporting rifles are no longer “guns”? EVERY PIECE OF GUN CONTROL LEGISLATION (with the exception of one bill) IN THE LAST 20 YEARS WAS WRITTEN BY DEMOCRAT TERRORISTS™. An assault weapons BAN is “coming for your guns”

          • DonDrapersAcidTrip

            “So modern sporting rifles are no longer “guns”? ” Who tf are you even talking to right now lmao

  • William M Durham

    Thats just great for them, what about Americans? I can bet obama would make it illegal for our police/law enforcement types as being unfair to criminals and terrorist

    • DIR911911 .

      save that crap for when your fapping to rush limbaugh

  • Jonathan Ferguson

    Minor point, but it’s just ‘mail’. ‘Chainmail’ is basically saying ‘chainchain’.

    • iksnilol

      No, mail is what you send to people.

      It’s called chainmail because it’s akin to a letter (for your body) made out of chains.

      • Tassiebush

        I thought it was like a chain letter!?

        • iksnilol

          Nah, that’s what you call a rope made of bedsheets. Because like many mails form a chain many bedsheets form a rope. The English language and its idioms are logical like that.

          • Tassiebush

            Curses! I don’t know anything about Norwegian or Bosnian and hence lack any retorts to make fun of either!
            Stop making fun of English. It’s the only language I have. We aren’t all cunning linguists like you!

          • iksnilol

            Man, cunning linguism is something I miss. That and my back looks like Hiroshima in 1947. Ah, the “perks” of being single.

            Well, in Norwegian “married” and “poison” use the same word which is “gift”. I am pretty sure you can throw in a joke about that.

          • Tassiebush
          • Tassiebush

            Sorry mate I don’t get the Hiroshima reference. Is it resembling regrowth? Is this one of those millennial body hair things?;)

          • iksnilol

            Nah, it’s just slightly messy because you can’t really scrub it well.

            But yeah, I am from Eastern Europe, I am basically half bear.

          • Tassiebush

            Haha yeah I can’t do up my own wetsuit so can identify with that.

  • Thom S

    For people wanting some of their own, try Ringmesh. Their product is cheap, light (about half the weight of a riveted hauberk), made from stainless steel, has fine rings and is machine-welded.

    It really is the closest you can get to mithril (which Tolkien also called silvered steel).

  • micmac80

    So true , they just equiped for the most likely threat and chainmail is used when edged weapons are suspected. The big difference is they are there to take the suspect in alive and firearms are not used much .

    In germany police fire about 40 shots per year in anger and of those more than half are warning shots.

  • john4637

    Muslim barbarians are dragging the West back into the Dark Ages!

  • Voice_of_Reason

    Geez, this wasn’t needed before Angela Merkel flooded Germany with “migrants”.

  • Anomanom

    Hey, if it works, it’s not stupid

  • gunsandrockets

    Well now I’ve seen everything. I think a buckler would be more practical.

  • Hossi Blumengaarten

    since all the muslims go in insane knife attacks the german police started to use chainmail again. it is back to the MIDDLE AGES for everyone!!!! what is going on to western civilization???!!!

  • Tassiebush

    Seems like a pretty good response to a bunch of quite specific types of threat situations. I can think of quite a lot of incidents over the years where this type of equipment might have been helpful in resolving situations making less lethal options safer and lethal options safer for that matter.

  • valorius

    Good anti-machete’ protection, i guess.

    They do look spectacularly teutonic in that chain mail, i must say.

  • Steve

    You should follow your own advise, as well as applying some critical thinking. The “newspaper” took the number from a DoJ study of all rape reports in the US from 1997 to 2013.

    Simply applying a tiny bit of critical thinking, does it seem reasonable that college campuses are more dangerous for females than it is in the Congo?

    As disqus has repeatedly disallowed me posting the link, here’s the text:

    The Department of Justice (Bureau of Justice Statistics) released a report yesterday titled “Rape and Sexual Assault Victimization Among College-Age Females, 1995–2013.” The report was based on the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) of women ages 18-24 for both reported and unreported cases of rape and sexual assault. Rape and sexual assault are defined by the NCVS to include: a) completed and attempted rape, b) completed and attempted sexual assault, and c) threats of rape or sexual assault, so the study provides a pretty comprehensive analysis of rape and sexual assault among young women. The report includes both: a) students (enrolled in college, university, trade school, or vocational school) and b) nonstudents for the 18 to 24 age group, which allows for a comparison of “campus rape/sexual assault” and offenses that take place for that age group among nonstudents. Here are some of the report’s findings:

    1. Over the 1995-2013 period, the rate of rape and sexual assault victimization was almost 25% higher for nonstudents ages 18-24 (7.6 cases per 1,000 females) compared to students enrolled in a post-secondary institution in that age group (6.1 cases per 1,000 females), see chart above. So despite all of the media attention on campus sexual assault, women enrolled in colleges and universities are actually much safer compared to women in that age group who are not attending a post-secondary institution.

    2. Over the 1995-2013 period, the rate of rape and sexual assault victimization for both students and nonstudents has been falling (see chart). For women attending college, the rate of rape/sexual assault has fallen by more than 50%, from 9.2 incidents per 1,000 women in 1997 to 4.4 cases per 1,000 in 2013. According to the media, politicians and gender activists, there is supposed to be a college “rape epidemic” when in fact, the rate of college female victimization has been trending downward for the last two decades.

    3. What might be the most important statistic (and was not provided in the report and is not being reported by the media, except Ashe Schow at the Washington Examiner) is that the data provided by the NCVS show that only about 1 in 41 women were victims of rape or sexual assault (threatened, completed and attempted; and reported and unreported) while in college for four years during the entire period investigated from 1995 to 2013, based on this analysis:

    6.1 women per 1,000 = “1 in 163.9 women” per year, and over four years attending college would then be = “1 in 41 women” while in college.

    Because the victimization rate has been trending downward, that same analysis using data from the last four years (2010 to 2013) reveals that 1 in 52.6 women have been sexually assaulted or raped in recent years.

    Bottom Line: Using Bureau of Justice survey data that includes: a) reported and unreported cases of sexual assault and rape, and b) threatened, attempted and completed cases, the rate of campus sexual assault, we can say that:

    1. Women ages 18 to 24 attending college have about a 25% lower chance of being the victim of rape or sexual assault compared to their nonstudent counterparts.

    2. College campuses have become safer for women in the last few decades, based on the decline in the rape/assault rate by 50% since 1997.

    3. Over the last four years, about 1 in 52 college women were raped or sexually assaulted, which is different by a factor of more than ten times compared to the “1 in 5” claim made by the White House based on the findings of one survey from students at two universities. Of course, 1 in 52 college women being the victim of a rape or sexual assault is still too high, but the controversy about campus sexual assault (and the victims) is best served by truthful and accurate data, and this new report from the Justice Department will hopefully contribute to the accuracy of the data on a very important issue.