Suppress Easier With Bootleg Inc’s Adjustable Carrier

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Adding a suppressor to a direct impingement (DI) gas system like the one found in most AR-patterned rifles can have an overall effect on the rifle’s operation. Many silencers will constrict the normal flow of gas out of the muzzle creating a effect sometimes referred to as back-pressure. Instead of exiting the barrel, gas and particulate matter from the deflagration of gun powder ends up increasing cyclic rates, fouling and wear and tear on critical components. Bootleg Inc now offers an adjustable carrier that controls gas flow with settings adjusted with just the turn of a screw.

Obviously gas control is not a new premise; adjustable gas blocks, uppers, and even other carriers are in use by many a suppressor-lover. But it’s always good to see new options on the market. Bootleg seems to have designed a quality product and it will be neat to see some reviews hit the Internet.

 

Bootleg Inc Adjustable Carrier @ TFB

Bootleg Inc Adjustable Carrier @ TFB

The Bootleg Lightweight Adjustable Carrier is machined from S7 Tool Steel, and features a four setting vent system to relieve excess gas pressure from suppressor use.

Specifications:

  • Machined from S7 Tool Steel
  • Lithium Isonite Coating
  • 4 Setting Adjustable Vent System relieves excess gas pressure created from suppressor use creating longer dwell time and less blowback to the shooter.
  • Gas Adjustment can be turned while installed in the rifle
  • Unique Lightweight Design
  • Uses mil spec components
  • Staked Mil Spec Gas Key
  • Adjustment Pin is easily removed for cleaning
  • This is not FULL Auto Rated
Bootleg Inc Adjustable Carrier @ TFB

Bootleg Inc Adjustable Carrier @ TFB

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Bootleg Inc Adjustable Carrier @ TFB

Suppressor manufacturer Dead Air Armament recently announced that they would be offering the Bootleg carrier for sale on their website.

Bootleg Inc also offers a number of other AR products on the market that are definitely worth a look.

MSRP: 249.95


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Bootleg Inc – http://bootleginc.com/contact-us/

255 Steelhead Way
Boise, ID 83704
208 780 6155



Pete

LE – Science – OSINT.
On a mission to make all of my guns as quiet as possible.
Pete.M@staff.thefirearmblog.com


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  • thedonn007

    Looks to be a better option than that Gemtech version.

    • westford86

      And what makes you say that?

      • Jack

        4 settings vice 2. Can change settings without pulling the BCG out of the upper. Based on those alone, I’d rather try this over the gemtech.

        • thedonn007

          Yes

  • gunsandrockets

    Price?

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      $250

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    Not full auto rated:(

    • thedonn007

      How about bumpfire or Binary/Echo trigger rated? 🙂

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Weird, because it looks like an FA carrier. I cant tell if the firing pin is shrouded or not.

      • Riley

        I would think it only effects a full auto fire control group.

    • HSR47

      Yeah, that’s a bit of a bummer. I wonder how much of that is “bad things will happen if you try” vs “it might or might not work reliably in FA, so we’re going to advertise it as semi-only.”

      • therealgreenplease

        Probably just not as reliable. I see know reason why this would be a “bad things will happen” situation.

        • HSR47

          I haven’t played with one, but the only “bad things” I could see happening would be OOB detonation, which shouldn’t be possible with an in-spec AR15.

          It’s more likely that it’s just extremely hard to get running well in FA — it’s allegedly a lightened carrier, and that combined with the lower gas setting would mean that it was likely intended to be used with lighter buffers. As a result, I can see bolt bounce being an insurmountable issue: The way to “fix” it on an AR15 is basically just to put in a heavier buffer and/or recoil spring. With the degree to which gas is vented by the carrier, it’s possible that adding a buffer heavy enough to prevent bolt bounce would cause the rifle to short-stroke.

  • Dave L

    lightweight for suppressor use… Why? At the same time, you’ll be directed to install an H2 buffer…because suppressor.

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      Thats what I dont get. It looks like a heavier M16 carrier to me.

      • therealgreenplease

        I’m with you on that. Assuming they stuck with 8620, I don’t see where this carrier lost weight.

        • Riley

          It looks like it has lightening cuts and recessed areas. Its also going to have some gas passages in it for the gas to vent. I haven’t seen a weight so who knows how much lighter it actually is.

    • Pete – TFB Writer

      Remember, with properly regulated gas, you shouldn’t have to increase buffer weight. The less mass slamming back and forth should make for a smoother firing gun. I’m guessing that’s why they made the carrier lighter.

  • JD

    I understand how adjusting the size of port at the carrier can adjust the force imparted to the BCG, and control ROF…but isn’t all the gas + crap coming down the gas tube still getting dumped into the action?

    So as I see it the real pluses here are reduced cyclic rate, and therefore increased reliability, and less wear. But I’m still getting just as much crap into my action, and the same amount of blow back out the ejection port?

    • Jack

      Increased dwell time”should” keep the chamber closed longer to allow the pressure in the can to drop so you’re not getting as much crap blown back into the gun when the bolt goes out of battery. Same principal for the gas in the tube.

      I could be waaay off though.

      • JumpIf NotZero

        You’re not way off. You’re 90% correct.

        Anyone that still thinks that “crap coming down the gas tube still getting dumped into the action” is why guns get dirty has no idea of how guns work – short example, suppressed piston guns are almost always over gassed and get as dirty if not dirtier than suppressed DI guns.

        A properly timed action will be a cleaner gun. LOL at the DI myths still circulating.

        • Wolfgar

          Sorry Jump,you are wrong. AR DI guns are dirtier in the action than gas piston AR’s. Anybody who has used a gas piston AR knows this. Gas piston AR’s are self regulating and more forgiving with an over sized gas port than the DI system . That said, I only use DI systems in my AR rifles since I discovered reliable adjustable gas blocks like the SLR sentry 7.

          • Ranger Rick

            The SLR Sentry 7 is an excellent gas block, imparts very smooth functioning.

          • mig1nc

            I think he was specifically referring to running suppressed. In which case the VAST majority of blow back comes out of the big hole, not the little hole. Piston guns get dirty as hell when suppressed, just as much as a DI gun depending on the tuning of either one. Also DI guns don’t suffer from piston pop (explosive venting of gas from the self-regulating system you mentioned) so DI guns almost universally suppress better than piston guns. The Sig MCX is the only piston gun I’ve ever known to suppress better than comparable DI guns, but the difference is so small nobody would ever notice.

          • Wolfgar

            You are correct , which is why I prefer the DI and the fact the DI has less recoil for faster follow up shots.

        • Treyh007

          Sorry bro, my Suppressed Piston upper is night and day when compared to my suppressed DI upper. The piston upper stays at least 75% cleaner maybe more. It’s crazy to see the difference!

        • Mack

          I actually agree with jump here, my 2 piston guns (adcor and adams) get dirtier shooting suppressed than my 9 DI guns that are set up for suppressor. I think if i switched to a syrac piston it might clean things up because i can adjust gas setting better. But the DI are definitely cleaner.

          Least with my suppressors… (SPS, Rugged Surge, Omega, YHM)

    • Pete – TFB Writer

      It will be neat to see some field tests.

  • JumpIf NotZero

    Too funny that the company name is Bootleg…. And they’ve knocked off the Gemtech design.

  • Elkaholic714

    Aren’t they a daughter company or something to PWS?

    • Frank Grimes

      PWS?

      No wonder they’re using junk screws.

      • Elkaholic714

        I’ve always had great luck with PWS. You haven’t?

        • Frank Grimes

          PWS is notorious for using YFS junk fasteners.

          • Elkaholic714

            Oh. This might be a dumb question, but if it’s staked properly then does it really matter?

          • Frank Grimes

            Absolutely.

            Just because they can’t back out doesn’t mean the heads can’t sheer off.

  • Frank Grimes

    Are those YFS screws holding down the carriee key?

    Could this company really not source quality American fasteners so they had to use Chinese cheese-metal screws?

    No wonder it’s not full auto rated.