.30 M1 Carbine “Scout” Version Released by Inland Manufacturing

M1-Scout

Inland Manufacturing, known for their new reproduction manufacturing of historical rifles, has announced the release of their M1 “Scout” carbine. The new Scout adds modern features to the M1 carbine that allow the use of modern accessories and bring the rifle in line with Jeff Cooper’s true “Scout” rifle concept that was popular in the 1980’s and enjoys support today.

The primary additions to the weapon system are the inclusion of a picatinny rail mounted forward of the ejection port and the use of a threaded barrel. The picatinny rail is mounted directly to the barrel, which may effect accuracy (though not much, as the barrel was never free-floated in the M1), but will ensure the optic or accessory is always aligned to the bore. The threaded barrel features a conical “military-style” flash suppressor.

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On the barrel thread, I am highly surprised to see it listed as 1/2×28 thread pitch, which is common for .22 caliber weapons. For most .30 cal weapons, the common thread is 5/8×24. The smaller diameter threads does not leave much material to support the use of suppressors.

Keeping with tradition, the weapon maintains the original iron sights and magazine compatibility, allowing the use of original 10, 20, and 30 round box magazines. Unusually, the weapon will ship with a 15 round magazine (10 for those in restricted states or locales). The stock is still walnut, but sprayed with “proprietary industrial texturized polymer”.

MSRP is pegged at only $1,239 in the press release (which does conflict with the flyer photo shown above), available from MKS Supply. 



Nathan S.

One of TFB’s resident Jarheads, Nathan now works within the firearms industry. A consecutive Marine rifle and pistol expert, he enjoys local 3-gun, NFA, gunsmithing, MSR’s, & high-speed gear. Nathan has traveled to over 30 countries working with US DoD & foreign MoDs.

Nathan can be reached at Nathan.S@TheFirearmBlog.com

The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization.


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  • noob

    The conical flash hider is rare these days. Would it increase felt recoil?

    • Giolli Joker

      Highly unlikely, but it would not mitigate it either.

    • Steve Rothaug

      I shot friend’s M1 Carbine with and without that flash hider. Extremely minimal, if any, difference. It’s such a soft-shooting gun, anyway.

  • Alex Agius

    At over $1000 who is the market? Not collectors as these aren’t originals guns, not people who need a practical gun (as a 5.56 ar15 can be had for less), and for people in ban states the SCR seems like a better (cheaper) option. And if you like that style of gun (old school in an intermediate caliber) then a mini14 is probably better for you. Is there something I’m missing?

    • BattleshipGrey

      I think you covered it. Other than mentioning that .30 carbine ammo is also an issue. Not only is it expensive, there’s very few self defense offerings for it. The carbine certainly isn’t a bad gun, but the market seems to be against it, and like you said, there’s better economic rifles to be had.

      • cdm

        I’d love to see one in 7.62×39

      • Marcus D.

        You only need one self defense loading, when push comes to shove, and Hornady makes it with an FTX bullet for just over $1 per round.

    • Greg Anderson

      And I don’t think it’ll cut the mustard in ban states. Flash hider means its not featureless. I’m sure some states have less restrictive AWBs, but this would be a no-go in the big one.

      • Alex Agius

        Even more nails in its coffin……

      • Mi

        You can bet that they will make a commie-compliant version if it sells.

  • MrEllis

    Huh. I would think this thing would sell like mad at about 550 bucks.

    • BattleshipGrey

      Here you go, MSRP $539. You can also add the Amega scout rail for an extra $150.

      • Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad

        Is that a pistol caliber Garand action rifle?

        Who makes it and where can I get one?

        • Anonymoose

          Legacy Sports. They take M9 mags.

          • MrEllis

            Correct, sir, hidden in their website, link is waiting for mod approval.

        • RoyB

          No, it is straight blowback with the bolt weight in front of the magazine and under the barrel like on a model 1907.

        • Matt Ware

          I believe it’s the Chiappa M1 clone, 9mm and uses Beretta mags. IIRC they haven’t gotten great reviews.

      • Kefefs

        Too bad the Chiappa M1-9 is a huge pile of crap.

  • Kirk Newsted

    I don’t recall there ever being original 10 or 20 round mags for the carbine. Just 15 and much much later the 30 rounders.

  • vwVwwVwv

    if i woud like to produce a rifle for the us market i would build a 357 or 44 magnum
    small semiauto in M1 configuration. 200 yards would be no chalange, out of a rifle
    the carteige has more power and one can use same amo in the revolver.

    • Swarf

      I am interested in your ideas and would like to edit your newsletter for spelling and grammar and then subscribe to it.

    • Cal S.

      Only a couple problems with that. .357 and .44 magnums have difficulties with standard magazine configurations because not all of them are the same length. However, if you took the Ruger 10/22 BX-25 design–a hybrid straight/rotary–then you might be talking.

      • vwVwwVwv

        there is no semi auto carabin in 357 or 44 mag at all on the market
        and revolvers in this calibres are popular outdoors.
        its just an idea not that i have
        real intentions.

        desert eagle magasins work, conan magasins work, dont think that
        for a good constructer it would be a real big chalange.

        10/22 (love it)! ruger has so much potential, i dont understand
        why they dont give ruger produkts
        the right endwork.
        its like picking a fruit before it is ripe sometimes.

        there are planty of lever aktions in 357 and 44 mag out thre,
        may be its just my stupid idea of some kind, who knows?

        • matthew_carberry

          LeMag used to do a .45 WinMag conversion of .30 Carbines. Great concept. A carbine built from the ground up around a thumper cartridge (.460 Rowland, use 1911 mags?) would probably sell well if the cost could be around $600.

          • vwVwwVwv

            look its just a idea, i am in germany. here if i would
            want to build something like that byrocracy
            would simply kill me.

            currently its like we have invented the wheel and finish.
            i have not seen a lot new guns for long time.
            every day a new AK and a new AR15,
            some new “glocks”, “1911s” and so one.

            it would be deffinitely something new, no?

    • King_Hussein

      We don’t need no stinkin M1 for that (Rossi Ranch Hand 12″ barrel 44 magnum)

      • vwVwwVwv

        king husein?
        you have?
        have YOU?
        and what stinks about M1’s?
        was the tone nessesary?
        i dont think i should reply cuz TFB is about guns not politics.

        • King_Hussein

          Easy Vee Dub, your clue my comment was tongue-in-cheek is the word “stinkin.” It’s a figure of speech referencing the 1948 Humphrey Bogart classic “The Treasure of the Sierra Madre” (you’ll have to google “we don’t need no stinking badges” the site doesn’t allow video embeds allowed without approval.)

          • vwVwwVwv

            oh man sorry, i miss understood you.
            i know there are lever actions but no autos, not one,
            its not important, sorry for my rude answer. 😉

  • Captain obvious

    Yikes, $1200 for a knockoff copy in an obsolete caliber? I dont care how pimped out it is, it ain’t gonna fly. The only value of an m1 carbine is it’s history, you could buy a real one for less than that.

    • Cal S.

      Hey, hey, hey. I don’t know why, but I really like the .30 carbine. With modern Hornady cartridges, it’s actually pretty sweet. It’s a 200 yard round that’s lighter and more compact than many 5.56 pistols while remaining 100% legal to shoulder.

      Don’t be surprised if I design a rifle around it some day…

    • AirborneSoldier

      Better ballistics than the .45. I know everyone loves the eurupean 9mm, but i dont

  • Greg Anderson

    So it’s not even a polymer stock? It looks like they spent a lot of time removing the only advantages the M1 Carbine enjoys. The flash hider means it’s not exempt in a lot of AWB states. It’s probably heavier. It’s no longer as approachable looking to new shooters. What’s the point?

  • michael franklin

    Minimum risk to the company, all they do is add a few doo dads to an existing model, if it bombs, no big deal.

  • Big Daddy

    This would have been great about 40 years ago. There are so many better choices right now and for less money. Maybe chop the barrel to 16″ add on a modern flash hider and some other cool things offhand I cannot think of right now and drop the price.

    How about offering it in some high powered pistol cartridges? With the shorter barrel. There are enough companies now to sub-contract for proprietary magazines and stocks. If they can make it work with rimmed cases, if not use ones like the 10mm or one of the rimless magnum cartridges.

    • Cal S.

      Kinda like Mossberg did with their tactical lever action .30-30? It looks cool, but for a 5+1 rifle…

      On the other hand, there are some aftermarket stocks for M1s that make them look like P90s.

    • Marcus D.

      There are lever guns out there in .357, .44 mag and .44-40. The tube fed design doesn’t have any issue with the rimmed cartridges that is often a real problem with box magazines. With a 20″ barrel, these have a ten round capacity. With a 24″ barrel, a few more.

  • Rimfire

    I always wanted to add an M1 carbine to my collection but at this price forgetaboutit!!

  • Cal S.

    >Inland: The new “Black Gun”
    >Me: “Oh, that must mean…”
    >Checks MSRP, sees it’s over $1,000
    >Me: “Yup, knew it.”

  • Marcus D.

    I may be in the market for an Inland rifle later this year, just not this particular model, but the 1944 version with a California compliant 10 round mag, as the possibility exists that one of the “assault weapons” ban bills is broad enough to include the M1 Carbine. I would choose this for several reasons, First, the Chiappa and the Auto-Ordinance, although cheaper, have had unfavorable reviews. Second, the Inland advertises that it is Mil Spec and it is 100% compatible with original rifles, so much so that they stamp the receiver and the barrel to prevent fraud. Third, this is a new rifle, with a warranty, not something one buys sight unseen through GunBroker or other site. Those that can be shown to be all original are priced much higher than this, and the rest are parts bins products/projects of uncertain reliability or shootability. I want a gun I can shoot without fear. Fourth, the Franklin Armory M1 goes for $500 more than this. Fifth, the Mini14 with that huge cyst on the side of the barrel, plus the steel plate at the end of the stock for the Garand style op rod is downright UGLY! And it is NOT an M1 Carbine. Plus it also costs about $1000.

  • Russ Elder

    A little off topic but a warning——my buddy got a brand new Auto Ordnance carbine for 800.00 brand new.(Kahr mfg.) we took it up to the club . We were excited to test it and on the second shot the extractor and spring came flying out. Now the fun started. The store said take it up with mfg. we called the manufacturer who said because we used Aquillar ammo we voided warranty by using ammo from out of the country( total BS) finally after arguing they took it back with my buddy paying all shipping charges. As soon as he got it back he dumped it.maybe its a fluke but a word to the wise.

  • Jim Balsamello

    I can’t grasp the dumb NJ gun law that restricts the M1 Carbine because they consider it an assault weapon, when the very similar Ruger Mini 14 (.223 cal.) semi-auto is allowed. Go figure!

  • 2016usaofzimbabwe

    $599 maybe

  • RPK

    You can purchase a retired military M-1 Carbine for between $500.00 to $600.00 and so WHY pay $1K for a reproduction with “bells & whistles”, and nothing of substance. The M-1 Carbine is a well respected personal defense firearm however, beyond that, it is an ineffective cartridge and fairly pricey. I will stick with the two M-1 Carbines that I presently own (one has seen military action and from what I was told by my Uncle from whom I received one of these weapons, the second M-1 Carbine was a former police department firearm from the 60’s and it looks brand new. I was told he only paid $25.00 for it with several 30 round banana clips, too. He was a police officer when they upgraded to a different weapons platform and retired the M-1 Carbines). And YES, a Mini-14 is a great firearm with the same style action.

  • AirborneSoldier

    Too much money.
    cant see front sight over the hider. That hider was designed to reduce flash back through the early night vision. If it sold reasonably, maybe.

  • Mi

    Easily twice the cost of what I would be willing to pay. I really don’t get the idea behind a black plastic coating over a walnut stock.

  • bobfairlane

    Why buy this over an AR? It looks like a good time, but the plastic-over-wood stock seems strange, and the price is kind of high.

  • Charles

    Too much money for this rifle. Way too much.

  • Only $100 more for a PS90 which is better in every way…