Fabryka Broni Unveils 7.62×51 MSBS


Fabryka Broni of Poland is eyeing more than just the 5.56mm market with its new MSBS rifle; the arms maker just announced a new, larger variant of the rifle chambered for the more powerful 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge, called MSBS-7.62. Both assault and designated marksman rifle variants are planned, with the rifles reportedly being ready for showing in Fall of 2016 at the International Defense Industry Exhibition MSPO. Altair.com reports (below is a somewhat rocky machine translation of the original Polish, Polish readers should follow the link and read it in its original form):

Weapon Factory started work on prototypes of 7.62-mm rifle MSBS-7.62. Weapons will be shown publicly for the first time in the fall, at the International Defence Industry Exhibition.

The Weapon Factory started construction of prototypes rifles MSBS-7.62 in the superb varieties (above, planned by Archer as the successor worn-SWD) and automatic (for rapid response units).  Fighting in the basic variant are to have the representatives of Torun course snipers (snipers school), which is to allow the placing on the target structure comments, arising from the experience of combat users of the Polish Army / Drawing: Weapons Factory

The Weapon Factory started construction of prototypes rifles MSBS-7.62 in the superb varieties (above, planned by Archer as the successor worn-SWD) and automatic (for rapid response units). Fighting in the basic variant are to have the representatives of Torun course snipers (snipers school), which is to allow the placing on the target structure comments, arising from the experience of combat users of the Polish Army / Drawing: Weapons Factory

As learned REPORT-wto in Radom archer work began, financed from its own funds, the complete: prototypes rifles MSBS-7.62 for ammunition 7.62 mm x 51 NATO. Manufactured already the most important element, forgings barrels with the chambers nabojowymi and other parts of the firearm. Some of them will be interchangeable with family MSBS-5,56-powered cartridge 5.56 mm x 45 (firstMSBS-5.56 for MON, 2015-09-05). Weapon Factory intends to specialize in the production of barrels of small arms, and therefore the barrel of Radom have eventually getting into sniper produced at ZM Tarnów (WP ordered another Bory from Tarnow, 2014-06-07).

The designers of the Weapons Factory in an interview with REPORT-wto confirmed that the 7.62-mm rifle will be kept the same arrangement of manipulators – tensioning handle, switch the type of fire, magazine release button, release lever from the rear breech position – as models caliber 5, 56 mm. All this so that you can in the same way to handle a gun without changing habits.

The new rifle MSBS-7.62 uprising so far only in a variation of the classic, with ejection scales on the right side. The weapon will be developed in two versions: samoczynno-samopowtarzalna (automatic) and samopowtarzalna elections. As learned REPORT-wto both models to be shown in public for the first time as early as this year, the Prime Minister will be in the first weeks of September at the International Defence Industry Exhibition in Kielce.

The first variant rifle MSBS-7.62 is to have 406-mm barrel, folding to the side controlled the flask and be adapted to fire a single and continuous fire. The need for such a structure consisted arms and aeromobilne paratrooper units. The second version will be a semi-automatic firearm with a long, precise 508-mm barrel. It was reported by Archer to technical dialogue, as the successor to the obsolete Russian sniper rifle SWD to the cartridge 7.62 mm x 54R ( Successor SWD in HR , 2015-04-29). Will be adjusted only to firing a single, equipped with precise trigger mechanism and a permanent flask with adjustable foot and cheek pad and the components are assembled with a telescopic sight.

The MSBS-7.62 is one of the first new patterns of rifles set to compete directly with the FN SCAR-H for military contracts as a modular dual-purpose assault/marksman’s rifle in 7.62x51mm NATO caliber (another being the heavier AR-15-based HK 417). The MSBS family itself is patterned after the US Magpul Masada design, later bought by Remington and produced as the Bushmaster ACR. The Polish design, however, incorporates a number of improvements, both mechanical and ergonomic, including the ability to adapt the rifle via a kit to the bullpup configuration – the only production rifle in the world designed to have this capability. Interestingly, the MSBS-7.62 is not the first, or even second 7.62x51mm NATO caliber descendant of the original Masada design, as that company developed its own 7.62mm derivative, the Massoud, which was later adapted further by Kinetic Research Group as the KRG FOX-42 Precision Rifle.

It’s a sound bet that Fabryka Broni may also be eyeing the US civilian market with the MSBS-7.62. FB representatives showed great enthusiasm in bringing the 5.56mm MSBS to America at SHOT Show 2015, including plans to build rifle receivers in Texas.

Nathaniel F

Nathaniel is a history enthusiast and firearms hobbyist whose primary interest lies in military small arms technological developments beginning with the smokeless powder era. In addition to contributing to The Firearm Blog, he runs 196,800 Revolutions Per Minute, a blog devoted to modern small arms design and theory. He can be reached via email at nathaniel.f@staff.thefirearmblog.com.


  • Twilight sparkle

    What ever happened to the Texas factory idea?

    • I plan to ask them at SHOT.

      • Twilight sparkle

        Thanks, I’ll definitely be looking forward to that.

      • KestrelBike

        Neat. Can TFB do a post soliciting reader’s questions they’d like you TFB-attendants to ask the various companies? Take a consensus of the best questions and then go ask ’em at SHOT?

        For example: Ask HK reps if there are any plans to start selling additional civilian rifles/carbines? (afaik, they currently only sell the MR/CR556 & MR762… walther .22lr’s don’t count.)

        • Twilight sparkle

          I second the motion to solicit reader’s questions.

        • Anonymoose

          I’d really like to see some HK293s, HK94s, SP5Ks, SP5SDs, and MP5SFA2/3 SBRs in the US.

        • Rick5555

          There’s a reason for HK not selling some of their firearms. One, is the 1989 executive order, President Bush signed. As well as, very strict German exportation laws pertaining to various firearms. HK gets a bad reputation. Though I think HK, should do a better job in explaining why they can’t export the G-36 and other models. HK could go the extra mile and create sporter models, To then have an American importer converted these models back. Hey we can all hope and wish and dream though.

          • Kivaari

            You would likely see any receiver and FCG prohibited if it could be “restored” to original configuration by a changing of stock furniture.
            All the AKs, HK clones and such are made here.

      • Rick5555

        Nathaniel, if possible could you please ask Desert Tech, when they’re planning of getting the MDR out. They announced this Bullpup at Shot 2014. Then at Shot 2015, they said some time late 2015. Essentially ask all companies about the models that were suppose to be out by now. It’s a lot to ask. However, I’m still not sure on making Shot this year. I have tickets, a reservations, etc all squared away. But something came up with work. Which is much more important to me. I still might get to Shot. But, I am curious about the Radon models, MDR, et. al. Thanks in advance for doing what you can. Have fun. And visit Battlefield Vegas, I always go there for some fun.

        • Paladin

          Desert Tech’s last email blast said they’ll be opening up the MDR pre-sale at the SHOT show

    • BrandonAKsALot

      Last update from Ted was that most of the approval was done to begin, but they were waiting on something from the ATF. Other rumors point to the Poles as being the hold up. I really hope it does materialize.

    • micmac80

      With current USD vs Euro ratio it would be cheaper to import into US than build a factory.

      • iksnilol

        1 Euro = 1.08 USD at todays course.

        • micmac80

          That alone is 20-25% less than a year ago, that is a huge difference . Labor in Poland is also cheaper than in US + factory is probably standing already

          • Rick5555

            The reason, foreign companies set up shop (factories) in America. Is due to the 1989 executive orders President Bush, signed. Which doesn’t allow importation of assault rifles, and military firearms. Those kind of firearms must enter the country (USA) as a sporting rifle. What companies do, is set up an American based company. The import all the parts individually and then assemble them here. As well as, being complying with 922(r) law. Which stipulates, that at least 6 parts must be made in America. On the AK, the magazine consist of 3 of the 922(r) parts law. Some American companies that import firearms, will bring in the Sporter model of said firearm. And subsequently convert it back to the original form. HK, has very strict exportation laws, when it comes to military type weapons. As well as, high taxation. That’s why, you don’t see several types of HK rifles. Or magazines that hold 15 rounds, when the model can easily hold 17 rounds…e.g., the VP9 is an example of the mag capacity. It’s not so cut and dry, as in setting up a factory here. Or manufacturing on it’s own soil per se. There’s a lot of laws, regulations and policies in place. When it pertains to firearms importing and exporting. Most likely why America will never see a Russian AK or military weapon from Russia. Due to Obama’s executive order regarding sanctions. Even when those sanctions expire or reversed. Most likely, the firearms sanction will hold. I’m assuming this will occur, due to how we did the same thing with China back in 1993 or 1994. Once the Chinese sanctions were subsequently “Lifted.” The firearms remained sanctioned to the present day. Even Canada get Norinco (Chinese) made firearms. Imagine if we could get cheap, M1A’s from Norinco? Or clones of other pretty cool stuff. Per Canadians, the quality is pretty decent too. But we’ll never know.

      • Twilight sparkle

        What does the exchange rate of currency have to do with building a factory? Poland doesn’t use euros anyways they use złoty

  • Steve

    So they took the SCAR and added KDG fore-ends? One buttstock looks like the the Mk20 SSR, and the other like a CZ Scorpion. Neat design I guess – especially if they take a lesson from CZ by selling them as pistols w/NFA kits.

  • Lance

    A polish ACR…. YAWN!!!

    • G0rdon_Fr33man

      Lance is in the house… YAWN!!!!

  • Jambo

    Yeah, but I’m still waiting for the 5.56 variant. Do they not want my money?

    • Last year, they said they were prioritizing the Polish military contract first.

      • BrandonAKsALot

        Last year the US factory was supposed to be up and running and producing actual Beryl models by this point. From what I hear, the Poles are dragging their feet at the moment.

      • Jambo

        Damn shame. I’m holding out, though. My next 5.56 rifle has to be the MSBS.

      • micmac80

        In Europe firearms industry lives and breathes for military/LE contracts , even tough, civilian shooters buy more than military many don’t give a f*ck so it often takes years before civilan versions are offered .

    • Anonymoose

      Does Fabryka Broni even have a US importer?

  • Phil Hsueh

    I hope that A) these make their way to the US and B) they aren’t horrendously expensive ($1 – $2K plus) like a lot other cool imports like the Tavor.

    • Gibroni

      Or the cz bren. I like my colts but a little variety would be nice.

    • Anonymoose

      They aren’t going to be under $1500. I can guarantee that. You’re probably looking at Galil ACE prices when (if) the 5.56 version hits the US market.

    • 360_AD

      Look closer. Much like the SCAR and all variants of it. Expect price to be over 2k if it ever gets to market. It’s like they reverse engineered the SCAR and added some improvements.

    • CavScout

      Your thoughts on ‘horrendous’ pricing is on the wayyyy cheap side. I think you may want to look into Kel Tec, because…. CZ, Sig, the MSBS, FN, HK, IWI, etc; are all well out of your price range.

  • Friend of Tibet

    Looks really like an ACR clone

  • Justin Galt

    Looks familiar 😉 I’d like to see what improvements they made from the ACR, I missed it at SHOT last year. The back end of the sniper version is more SCAR SSR but looks like it’s not a finished design. A little known fact is that one of the guys was actually working on a bullpup kit for the Masada/ACR back in the day.
    Justin (KRG)

  • Hensley Beuron Garlington

    The MSBS is just awesome sounding and looking. So adaptable, modular, and now even scalable. I like a lot. I hope it functions reliably and is rugged enough to military and Battlefield Las Vegas use.

    This rifle and Desert Tech MDR are the two rifle designs I’m really excited about.

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  • Wosiu, The grand deceiver

    HEY EVERYBODY, I just heard from my “contacts” and “sources” and “people” that radom is going to be revealing these at shot show and selling them around Easter just in time for the holidays!

    But what’s even more exciting is that Tula is creating a factory in the USA and are releasing a new AK eliminator chambered in .50 AE shown along with the new USA made VSS!

    But too leave you all ecstatic I’m here to bring you great news that Kalashnikov concern have evaded the sanctions by creating a front company in Venezuela and plan to show off their new perpetual energy machine that will provide clean, unlimited energy around the globe.

    We truly live in enlightened times!

    • Meathead

      I believe back when Chavez was around he signed a big defense contract with the Russians which included the manufacturing of AK’s in Venezuela.

    • Wosiu

      I am the original Wosiu here. Dont use my nick for your provocations.

      All your infos are bullshit.

  • Kovacs Jeno

    The Polish word for vaporware is MSBS!

  • Esh325

    Obsolete SVD? Hah. The Poles hate the Russians and vice versa, that’s why they don’t want to use the SVD anymore, and are generally sacking Soviet/Russian equipment, not because of technical parameters. It looks bad, especially now for a western aligned country to use Russian equipment. Still this MSBS .308 does look like a fairly solid rifle.

    • coco

      The SWDs in polish service are old, very often with worn out side rails and scopes that do not hold zero – those were about 1300 rifles with many decades of service in the hands of conscripts. The SWD-M modernization program was abandoned many years ago, the whole rifle would need to be completely redesigned to be up to modern standards – main concern is the receiver which is not stiff enough to handle the scope with prolonged use of rifle amunition. The Sako TRG is unsuitable for the role of dmr/sniper rifle for mechanized infantry – delicate and expensive bolt action rifle is not the thing you would want to carry as a part of mechanized platoon. So there are two ways to remedy lack of dmr – either equip ordinary 5,56 rifle with 4x power scope or design 7,62 rifle based on 5,56. New design will take few years of trials, and for now the Beryls and 556 msbs (when they will be issued) will be equipped with scopes.

  • lowell houser

    Well, let’s see, still waiting for them to release a US version of their knockoff ACR(and hoping it’s good). But apparently they are not content to merely not release the 5.56/762×39 version, they also want to not release a knockoff Massoud, too.

  • Anonymoose

    Still waiting on the semi 5.56 version to be imported.

  • LV-426

    I just want a semi auto 308 that doesn’t destroy brass. Doesn’t destroy itself through use. Doesn’t weight 10lbs. Doesn’t puke on itself with a can on it. And I can put a 5 round mag in it to hunt with. Is it going to exist this year?? Suggestions any one??

  • A Fascist Corgi

    I don’t get it. It’s widely known on this blog that direct impingement is superior to gas piston systems, and that any rifle that weighs more than 6.5 pounds is simply impractical for combat use…

    • Shown above: Things I have definitely, certainly, absolutely, totes for sure, actually said.

  • Kivaari

    I wonder if will be a better functioning than we see in many US made 7.62x51mm AR-type rifles. I was at the range today to just function fire an M4 carbine. The people next to me had a .308 AR, that had 6 or 8 failures to function in 100 rounds.

    • The Brigadier

      They probably didn’t take their new mags apart and clean and lube them. Most people have misfires until they learn this.

      • Kivaari

        It was a brand new rifle. Those were the first rounds fired through it, except for the proof loads. Once more my trusted dealer advises me to NOT buy any of the AR10-type rifles as all the ones he has owned and sold, seem to give trouble. I remember reading a few books and articles about the ones used by our military were inconsistent. Even Chris Kyle’s book made note of his rifle being unreliable. After all these years I no longer need to rush out and buy the newest and best whatever is out there. When I was in the business, I had to have one. I found too many guns to be less than reliable. That is in just about any brand I can think of. Even Glock, SIG, S&W, Steyr, Marlin, Winchester, well a lot of them. Good AR15, AK and HK rifles were pretty good.

        • CommonSense23

          The issue with the AR10 is there is no standardization. Its why you have such varying quality among the AR10s.

          • Kivaari

            Except, one should expect that when you buy XZX brand rifle and accessories from XZX company that that rifle functions. Since AR10s come from various builders, and some trigger groups and magazines do not interchange, that you could see issues. I know that if I bought or were issued a 7.62mm AR, that it functions. Now, that is a problem.

          • CommonSense23

            Well you would hope that any gun you buy from a manufacture works. But that isn’t the case for a lot of guns.

          • Kivaari

            That’s the problem.

          • Kivaari

            There are a great many guns that don’t work. Some are not all that inexpensive either. In the ’60s the ATF was looking for a way to stop the cheap “Saturday Night Specials”. When testing some cheap German zinc-framed .38s, they used Colt and S&W revolvers as the base line, the on to beat. Except the steel framed American guns, broke down before the pot metal guns. I still wont buy zinc firearms. Erma .22 pistols and rifles failed out of the box.
            Stoeger “Luger” .22s, junk. Navy Arms shipped a Golden Boy .38, with all the proof-marks, and the gun was never chambered. We had a Weatherby .300 Mk V, with a test target, and it had never been chambered. The rep admitted that they used one rifle to shoot test groups 100 targets at a time. It’s a lot less expensive than to do a rea test. Like the NEF .357 I bought a few years ago, that was a smooth bore. It had been inspected and marked as well. I never trust gun makers anymore.

      • CommonSense23

        Lubing mags causes issues.

  • Same old song

    So, basically the rifle is a bigger version of the msbs? Its correctly to assume that the ejection port can be changed(im a left and i really get pissed when brass hit my face).

  • nobody

    *yawn* it’s vaporware. This is the 3rd year that they’ll be showing it off at Shot Show without it going anywhere, last year they said that they would start selling them in the US late last year/early this year and still no news about them going on sale soon. Speaking of repeating disappointments at Shot Show, any guesses as to what’s going to happen with the R51 this year?

  • Colin s

    So is this version capable of doing the bullpup conversation too? Or is that just the 556?

  • Wosiu

    Nathaniel and others, you are wrong. MSBS have nothing common with ACR !!!
    Please stop this disinformation! MSBS and ACR have only similar outer look, nothing more.

    Here is my post from other forum.

    “What do you know exactly about Magpul/Remington ACR history and history of MSBS?

    When Magpul Masada prototype was unveiled in 2007, Magpul still was
    according to the internet data a garage company with 5 employees, with
    few years of activity with plastic parts. In this year, WAT (Wojskowa
    Akademia Techniczna – Technician Military Academy) had 56 years and
    Fabryka Broni Radom had 82 years.

    I dont know who originally projected Masada for Magpul, garage
    company (maybe some talented gunsmith from the other side of street)
    never mind. Masada was only sum of various previously known technical
    solutions with nice plastic outer form. No more and nothing really
    original. This thing never – also as Remington ACR – evolved into
    military standard rifle.

    MSBS projest was started also in 2007. First prototypes outer shape
    were ugly and anything similar to ACR. Outer shape is nothing which
    matter, internals is what is matter.

    According to your ignorant and weird logic, SAR-21 is copy of Steyr AUG, right? Because of looking similar, right?

    So, you dont know, that whole MSBS system is build around common
    upper receiver for classic and bull-pup versions both? Guys from Magpul
    and Remington never ever dreamed about such thing, because for them it
    is unimaginable.

    Magpul/Remington ACR is not yet finished product for civilian US poodle shooters.

    MSBS is military product according to the Polish army tests regulations, maybe hardest in the world.

    As for now, MSBS have 6 international patents for internal mechanisms and 22 EU industrial patents.”


    • Justin Galt

      Your information is incorrect.

    • Which is why it works just like an Masada, is made in exactly the same way as an Masada, and when I talked to the people from Fabryka Broni they said it was based on the Masada, right.

  • MR

    Fabryka Broni? Please tell me there’s a prancing MLP on the magwell.

  • Kivaari

    China will build rifles and handguns to any level the customer is willing to pay. Like Makarov and Tokarev pistols, I’ve seen crude and beautiful examples.