Steve sent us this photo of his Remington 870 Police Magnum. He writes …

This is my Remington 870 Police Magnum. Since buying it new in 2012, I’ve added the Rem. 2-shot mag extension, Streamlight TLR-1 on Streamlight’s mag tube mount, a hi-vis delrin follower, jumbo safety, and OD-green detachable side saddle all from S&J Hardware, M1-carbine sling using Talon QR swivels, and finally (though not in the picture) an 18″ rifle-sighted fixed-IC choke barrel, using Ameriglo tritium night sights.

This is my HD gun, but it gets a lot of use having fun at the range, and in steel plate competition.

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  • claymore

    Good mods using available hardware that works.

  • Philo Beddoe

    Nice shotgun, can’t help but admire the table in the background though.

    • Steve Rothaug

      Thanks – It’s actually a chest, 100+ years old. Hope to own it someday, if my parents ever wanted to part with it.

  • Matt L.

    Damn, but I’d hate to be looking down that barrel at night.

    • Jonathan Wright

      I tend to hate looking down barrels at any time of day.

  • Don Ward

    Not denigrating the man’s rig but I’m becoming more convinced that getting a “defense” shotgun with a longer barrel is the way to go. The spread isn’t going to be that much different at short range and you get the flexibility of reaching out and hitting varmints raiding your chicken coop – so to speak – if you need to transition to outdoor use.

    • 1911a145acp

      Pattern is independent of barrel length. As long as it is choked properly a short one with a proper muzzle constriction or screw in choke tubes will pattern what the choke dictates. Barrel will affect velocity, albeit only slightly. A longer barrel certainly swings and follows through better on moving targets and game. We built a 13 inch barrel 870 years ago and installed a screw in full Trulock TruChoke. It would keep a 9 pellet Std velocity 00 Buckshot load on a man size TGT at 50 yards….

      • Don Ward

        I’d imagine that choke would take a beating once you had to fire a rifled slug out of it.

        • 1911a145acp

          Fired dozens of soft “Foster” type slugs through it w/ no problems. They will smear lead and leave a residue, that if allowed to build up it could become an issue. The TruChokes are made of very high strength tempered steel. The full choke is only +.030 constriction. They have extra full and Super Turkey chokes that go to + .090 constriction. You begin to have serious deformation of the slug and loss of accuracy at about .060 constriction. Breneke type and “hard” slugs will get battered long before that. Go much tighter and even a soft lead slug will blow the tube and muzzle right off. Been there… done that.Best all around I found for buckshot types at “Real World” ranges inside 25 yds was the Improved Modified. Good pattern density and predictable spread.

    • floppyscience

      That makes sense if you own a ranch, but most people with defensive shotguns are just defending their home and family, usually in an urban or suburban setting. They don’t need something to shoot coyotes 30 yards away, they need something maneuverable in an average home or apartment that can shoot an intruder 5 yards away.

      • Don Ward

        So you will never need to transition outdoors in a self defense scenario?

        • floppyscience

          It’s improbable, but even if that does happen an 18-20″ barrel is still fine. In what urban/suburban home defense situation would you need to walk out of your house and shoot at targets so far away that the extra barrel length makes a difference?

    • Steve Rothaug

      No argument there about the flexibility of longer barrels, but living in a densely-populated neighborhood in suburban Fairfield, CT…I don’t run across too many varmints in my chicken coop haha

      • Don Ward

        So to speak. But I can imagine plenty of scenarios where you want that flexibility outdoors. How about a pitbull attack? Or a snatch-and-grab kidnapping? Or the KKK is rioting through your neighborhood after a notorious grand jury decision. Who knows. With how flexible a pump shotgun is in terms of ammo, reload ability and range, I don’t understand the need to gimp it for just 5-yard range work. (I’m kinda responding to all three of you gentlemen. Good debate!)

        • Commonsense23

          You realize throwing a 20 inch barrel on a shotgun does not give you improved ballistics over something like a 14inch. Shotguns due to having a larger bore use fast burning powder, which means shotguns projectiles reach they max potential early in the barrel. And longer barrels don’t equate to better accuracy.

    • Don Ward

      I think I stirred things up. Tried to respond to the three folks below. I’ll add that the strength of a pump shotgun as a self defense weapon is how very flexible it is at ranges from point blank to 50 yards while being able to easily transition between multiple ammo types including buck shot, bird shot and slugs.

      That police shotgun was originally designed to have as long of a barrel possible while still being able to fit in a police cruiser. I’d wager that if a longer barreled shotgun could have fit, departments would have issued it in 20 inch or more. There are “tactical” reasons for this because you never know in a self-defense scenario exactly what you will be getting into so why limit yourself to one finite contingency?

  • Very similar to my old setup. That 870 Police is a great shotgun.

  • Manny Fal

    Such nonsense, 870 shotgun is a terrible home defense weapon.
    – Low rate of fire
    – Requires two hands to operate
    – Too long for moving indoors
    – Low magazine capacity
    – Prone to malfunctions (shortstroking)

    • Zachary marrs

      What, pray tell, is the best ever?

      • SM

        Obviously the AR-15 and/or the Glock 19. If you don’t protect yourself with one of those two firearms, you WILL have your home raped and your women burned.

        • Zachary marrs

          Duh

          • Whitenorth

            I threw away my Smith model 29 and Remington 870 because I don’t want my house raped or my women burned. Or Not. It’s names Glock Ka-Boom for a reason, and why would I use a varment round to protect my raped house and burning women?

          • SM

            I’ve never felt under-gunned with just my P07. I would consider my mosin, but I don’t have the room to pull off a pike formation or the walls to stop those steel core rounds.

            My next college student budget purchase is a pump 12ga, either an 870 or 500, for home defense.

      • USMC03Vet
        • Phil Hsueh

          Great weapon to have in case of a zombie apocalypse; no ammo, minimal moving parts, no need to sharpen, easy to maintain.

    • guest

      Agreed. Using that logic, the knife is the apex home defense weapon.
      – High rate of stabbing
      – Requires only one hand
      – Length optimized for indoors
      – Infinite ammo
      – 100% reliability (“pointy end goes into the other man”)

      • Manny Fal

        Arguable but the knife certainly is the best grappling distance weapon, a distance easily attained in your average 3 bedroom house.

        The shotgun is the best weapon for the beginner though. But people should realise it’s mainly due to it being so feared by criminals not it’s combat performance. Criminals know the high mortality rate of getting shot by a shotgun. There are no rap songs about surviving shotgun wounds. In contrast a pistol has a much lower mortality rate and so isn’t nearly as feared.

        A semi auto shotgun is a better option, no need for two hands. A .308 based rifle has the next highest mortality rate, so I figure it would be the next most feared. After that comes the 7.62x39mm based rifles like the AK. In all cases a bullpup offers increased manoeuvrability indoors.

        • Commonsense23

          Are you actually serious. I honestly can’t tell.

        • Bill

          Wow, just wow

        • David

          Seriously? Not many out there who could shoot a semi auto shotgun with one hand and hit what they’re wanting to hit.
          Better put your boots on folks, the shit is probably going to get deep on this one in a hurry.

    • st4

      I prefer the flamethrower for home defense. While the sound of a pump-action instilling fear in an intruder is to be debated, mankind’s innate fear of a raging inferno is undeniable. Plus there’s no bigger middle finger than, “if I can’t have it, no one can,” as you set ablaze just what those invaders have come to pillage for the first place!

    • 1911a145acp

      Manny- Agree 100% with your statements above. The truth hurts -especially to Home Defense shotgun lovers. However,some caveats;
      -Low fire rate. True, but with technique and low recoil rounds it can be fired as fast as you can recover from recoil which is the same (relative) for other weapons. With a little training I have seen novices hitting with High brass at 3 rounds (.30-.35 splits) a second. The “I didn’t shoot fast enough” scenario is EXCEEDINGLY rare.
      -Requires two hands to operate. True, but nearly everything else does as well to function properly and reliably. Even more so w/ lights and lasers and “High rates of fire”.
      -Too long for moving indoors.True, but so are most long guns, and handguns with poor technique.Keep it close. Searching and clearing are extraordinarily dangerous, tiring and ill advised for the home defender. The Shotgun w/ min legal barrel and OAL offers a LOT of power and versatility for it’s size. Stay where you are if possible,let the bad guy(s) come to your defensible position, if not-move smart.Under arm assault position reduces OAL by about 20% or to about as long as the muzzle of your handgun w/ arms extended..
      -Low Magazine capacity, True, but HIGH cap is not needed. 5 rounds of 00 Buck is 45 projectiles.Are you confronting a problem greater than what 5 HITS w/ buckshot or slugs can solve? Any body carrying 45 rounds IN their bedroom rifle or pistol ready to go? Likely not.
      -Prone to malfunctions. True and unfortunately True.While the SHOTGUN is reliable and RARELY malfunctions, I have seen more manual shotgun OPERATOR INDUCED malfunctions ie; short stroking, NOT stroking, dropped shells, loaded BACKWARD shells,cycling WITHOUT FIRING, under stress than everything else combined. KISS training can address those issues as it does for other weapons systems.
      While the 12 Gauge pump shotgun is not easily mastered and certainly a 9mm high cap pistol or light recoiling AR is a better tool for the job for most folks.Several nights ago when I heard a commotion outside, I went past my Smith & Wesson M&P in 45 acp, reached over my AR in 300 Black and grabbed that too long, too few rounds, too heavy 12 Ga. Night sight equipped, Remington 870 with a Streamlight TRL-1 HL light mounted on it and headed to the door.
      Not busting your chops, just my 2c.

  • USMC03Vet

    You guys always have such photogenic setups. I’d be embarrassed to even submit pictures now. All these POTD are great. Keep up the good work guys.

    • Steve Rothaug

      Putting the gun on top of that chest helps it, but I think the key to good pictures is lighting. There’s a large window letting in lots of sunlight directly above the shotgun, out of the frame. So find a table, or shelf, whatever, that gets a lot of sun – or see if you can get a good shot outside. It might turn out better than you think, give it a try.