SteveInVA writes …

This pistol is an FEG AP-MBP. Essentially, it is a Walther PP clone in .32 ACP (7.65 Browning or 7.63×17 for our European friends) with an aluminum frame. Made in Budapest, Hungary, it is police surplus, and shoots surprisingly well for having such tiny sights. Very well made, and could fit my hand better if it were a bespoke, $5000 Olympic pistol. $200 well spent.

The Walther PPK, a smaller version of the PP, remains one of my favorite pistols, even if the round it shoots, the same .32 ACP as its bigger brother, is a little light for even my standards (If you have read this blog for a long time you know I famously and unfashionably prefer lighter rounds like the 9mm Luger/Parabellum over more modern firecrackers).

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  • Blake

    Didja mean “couldn’t fit my hand better”?

    BTW here’s an excellent classic video comparing James Bond’s .32 ACP Beretta to the then-new 44 Magnum Ruger Blackhawk:

  • suchumski

    the kriminals in the komunist world where much harder then on is

    thinking, the prisons where horror camps and

    sibira was a kind of deth centens.
    the 7.65 br. was strong
    enough for the

    komunist
    police.

    for 1000$ you can have one super modern customised handgun or

    5 of the Makarov, FEG’s, CZ’s and
    walters in 9mm makarov,

    7.65 br…..

    …one for the whife, one for the car, one in the livingroom, one in the bedroom….

    if one thinks the 7.65 is not hard enough, ask the mosad, they used 22lr….

    • guest

      Wat

    • Mastro63

      “if one thinks the 7.65 is not hard enough, ask the mosad, they used 22lr..” So did the Mafia – but that’s when they shoot you behind the ear. I like something with a bit more kick.

      The only 7.65 mm I would use would be the 7.65 x 25 mm Tokarev- that has some serious penetration.

  • Cameron Bissell

    I carry one in 9×18. seriously comfortable gun.

  • gunsandrockets

    I used to have one of those. Very nice, very accurate. And from the recoil it was easy to tell the S&B ammo was a much stiffer load than the Winchester.

    “… I famously and unfashionably prefer lighter rounds like the 9mm Luger/Parabellum …”, uh no you are not. If your preference matches the FBI, I think its fair to say you are quite fashionable.

  • Robert Evans

    These little pistols can be had in 9×18 Makarov, also.

  • sauerquint

    The double action trigger pull on these is ridiculous. Once you get going, single action is fine.

  • Casey Baker

    My father actually owns a couple of these that he bought after I purchased an FEG PA-63; they’re virtually identical except for the caliber (my PA-63 is 9×18 Makarov). The lacquer finish seems a little odd, but holds up really well, and they’re nice little guns. My only complaint is the insanely stiff DA trigger, I read that it’s somewhere in the 18lb range…

  • wetcorps

    What, no “aluminum VS aluminium” flamewar yet? 🙂

  • Mike

    “The Walther PPK, a smaller version of the PP, remains one of my favorite
    pistols, even if the round it shoots, the same .32 ACP as its bigger
    brother, is a little light for even my standards (If you have read this
    blog for a long time you know I famously and unfashionably prefer
    lighter rounds like the 9mm Luger/Parabellum over more modern
    firecrackers).”

    You know that James Bond (as portrayed by Daniel Craig) is also partial to the PPK.

    Of course, James Bond (as portrayed by Daniel Craig) is also partial to using any weapon possible, so the argument is rather academic.

    • WV Cycling

      I have a .380 nickel version, and love it. Carry it every day.

    • Simcha M.

      Daniel Craig, like many TV and movie actors who use characters regularly use guns, is on the record as opposing civilian ownership of guns.

      What hypocrites, I’m a James Bond fan since the 1970s when I was a kid and I still haven’t seen any of the Craig Bond movies because of his attitude. Smug SOB paskudnyak that he is.

      • Mastro63

        Its not hypocrisy over them playing cops and robbers.

        Its the fact that they can live behind gated communities and get security when they go out. For them- WE are the threat- not the crack addict mugger.

  • Kovacs Jeno

    sorry, it is not police surplus. The AP7,65 was never issued to Hungarian police. The 9×18 mm Makarov PA-63 is/was the police/military pistol in largest numbers.
    Before them, the 7,65 mm Browning caliber 48M was an issued police pistol, but that is a different gun, with steel frame.

    The AP7,65 was sold mainly for export to capitalist countries for hard dollars or deutsch marks.

    • Verner

      Actually, some were. They rarely hand these out, but it’s not unheard of.

      • Kovacs Jeno

        No.The 7,65 mm Brg “police” pistol was the FEG R78, which is a totally different gun, NOT a PP-clone.

        That was issued to female officers.

        It was funny, when the prime ministers’ children’s female bodyguard shot 4 times a car robber with her R78 in duty, but the robber could drive away.

        • Verner

          You are right, I got confused, my mistake.

          Yeah, that was a funny case.

  • strongarm

    Firing pin passive safety resembles Mauser HSc rather than Walther and frame material for earlier samples are fragile.

  • ducky

    can even be had in 9×19 … 😉

    smaller diameter (9.03 vs. 9.25mm) drops the pressure – not recommended anyway

    • Sulaco

      Yikes! Better his hand then mine!

      • Mastro63

        Yeah- he doesn’t describe how much gas comes out the 9x 19!
        Can’t think of any reason to do this- unless you are being attacked and only have a few Lugar rounds available.

        Best to use the correct ammo.

  • Schadavi

    Even though this is a fine gun, you obviously never had a grip fitted to your hand.
    Nill here in Germany fits all kinds of grips to your hand, i had a combat/target grip fitted for my hunting backup revolver. Not even comparable to any “one size fits all” grips.

  • Mastro63

    A friend had one- I loved the two-tone look. He later sold it to someone else without asking me. I later bought a FEG .380 from KBI. Used to carry it in downtown Philly in the ’90’s. Very accurate gun- and no one knew I was carrying- a very important part of concealed carry – especially since Philly cops are very hostile to it.