CZ 712 Practical 3Gun Shotgun

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CZ has come out with a shotgun built for 3Gun competition. It is the 712 Practical. Suggested retail price is $699.99. A very attractive price and competition for Mossberg’s entry level competition shotgun, the 930 JM Pro.

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The CZ712 Practical is a 22″ bbl with an ATI magazine extension that makes it 9+1 capactiy in 12 ga. It comes standard with an ATI Talon stock. CZ even bundles it with 5 choke tubes, whereas Mossberg JM Pro only comes with 3.

Gabby, over at Gun Nuts Media, gives a basic review of the shotgun and how it works for her in 3Gun.

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Review 2 of 2



Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

Any questions please email him at nicholas.c@staff.thefirearmblog.com


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  • JumpIf NotZero

    Pistol grip shotgun that isn’t a breaching gun…… Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope.

    • 101nomad

      I don’t go to the breach all that often anyway. (It’s my shotgun, and I am sticking to it. Not my first rodeo either).

  • DiverEngrSL17K

    I read Gabby’s evaluation of the CZ712 practical Shotgun with interest. It is generally a well-written, balanced and objective article, and she is to be complimented for it. Certainly much better than a lot of firearms assessments by other writers I have come across over the years. While the debate about pistol grips on shotguns versus conventional grips will probably go on forever, she did state that she had no issues with the pistol grip on the example she tested — which simply proves that one should work with what one is most comfortable and efficient with.

    • Nicholas C

      I see a lot of pistol grips on Turkey shotguns. I was told, by my co-workers, that it is so you can use your other hand to manipulate the turkey call. I dont think Pistol grips facilitate one handed operation over a traditional grip. See all the one handed weapon retention 3Gunners do when reloading a shotgun on the move.

      • gunslinger

        I can see why in turkey guns. Using the thumb/index finger as a plate to rest the gun on ans the other fingers to hold the grip to keep the gun from torquing. May be a bit easier than traditiomal grip.

        • Hyok Kim

          Pistol grip can help one to keep the gun from torquing sideways, but traditional grip allows one to put one hand over the grip to better control the sight picture while shooting.

  • MattInTheCouv

    my problem with pistol grips (on shotguns) is the safety is never in the right place, it seems. i want a front-of-trigger-guard safety with that setup. a tang/top of receiver safety is even worse with a pistol grip, but rear-of-trigger-guard is still not good. either my thumb or my trigger finger need to be able to unsafe the weapon quickly as i transition to a firing position.

    • DiverEngrSL17K

      Good point. Usually, some sort of compromise and modification of handling technique is needed to compensate for this. As far as having the safety at the front of the trigger guard ( the most advantageous and easily-manipulated position for a pump-action shotgun incorporating a pistol grip ) is concerned, the Mossberg Maverick 88 is an excellent example of such.

      • 101nomad

        Agree, I am left handed, and for me, the aftermarket pistol grip makes the in front safety easier to work on my Maverick. The pistol grip gives me more leverage to control the shotgun while disengaging the safety, and getting on target. I have shot right handed firearms all of my life, so it is not new to me, but for home defense the pistol grip works better. Practice is essential. If you want to know how you react under stress, walk up a covey of quail with the safety on.

    • gunslinger

      sounds good.
      one of the main reasons i like my mossy 🙂 tang safety better to manipulate than on the 870…hate mail incoming!

      • Nicholas C

        I too prefer the Mossberg safety when using a traditional stock/grip. Pistol grips on Mossbergs should be banned haha

        • CA

          The mossberg was made for the traditional stock. Only triggergaurd-safety shotguns should have a pistolgrip stock.

        • 101nomad

          They were, but, I missed it.(not serious). I am assuming we are talking about full/adjustable stocks with pistol grip, not pistol grip only? If I had a tang safety, no way would I use a pistol grip. Then again, I use whatever I got.

      • 101nomad

        It ain’t about hate, it is about what works with what you have. If it shoots when you need it, ok by me. I am used to safety on trigger guard, just so happens it works well with adjustable stock on the 88 Mav. Used to the pistol grip, from the M16 variations. Shotgun is my WMD of choice for ‘home defense’. Might scare hell out of the cats. One shot stop that leaves you standing and the object of your displeasure spattered on the wall? 2 3/4 12 gauge 00 buck, aimed well. Some people drive fords, some drive chevys. some drive those tacky old english cars, some drive cars with names I can not pronounce, they all get you to where you want to go, or, from where you may not want to be. Your mileage may vary. Choices are wonderful, may yours serve you well. (Full disclosure: I have never shot anybody, I have shot the bushes that were shooting at me. I was the smallest of the team, guess who got to go into the hut first with the shotgun? I only had to fire on one occasion, thank god it was the right shot.)

        • gunslinger

          you must be new here, or to the internet 😉

          nah, just spend any time anywhere else and mention a 3 digit shotgun and be prepared to be yelled at as to why that gun isn’t good.

          • 101nomad

            You got that right. No, I am not new to the internet, I am also not new to shotguns. Nobody yells at me for very long, I tear up and start crying, and they buy me another beer.

    • Tim

      With a safety in front of the trigger, it poses the risk of an accidental discharge if it is used as a 3gun platform. I have seen it happen. Behind the trigger works well, but I prefer on top but the pistol grip does pose a problem with that configuration.

  • KestrelBike

    I wonder if CZ or someone else will make a traditional stock w/o pistol grip. Then that’d make this a *very* interesting serious-entry-level shotgun for 3-gunners.

    • Sean

      You could just order it from them. They make the non practical version without it. There is a complete 712 lineup.

      • KestrelBike

        Ah interesting, thanks! I actually have and love an FN SLP Mk1.

        • Nicholas C

          Sweet gun! I shot it at the FNH 3Gun match. But for that price, I would get a Versamax.

          • KestrelBike

            Actually I do have a versamax tactical (before the latest iteration with the greenish stock) and I much prefer competing with the SLP. The SLP just feels *faster* to me and I feel like I can control the recoil better to get onto the next target with it. Trust me, I wanted to like the versamax better as I think it’s a fantastic gun and the ergonomics are great.

    • gunslinger

      i was going to ask, i thought PGs on shottys were a bad thing? so you can get the 712 w/o PG for the same price?

      • JumpIf NotZero

        If you really know how to run a shotgun, there is ZERO need for a pistol grip and it hinders working with them.

        1. Some silly gamer crap aside where they completely take their eyes off the field on focus on the gun, drop it into their support hand upside down, and load 4 shells at a time… The best way to reload a shotgun is to twist your wrist over, so the loading port is between your eyes and the target/range/field and load there. That twisting is slow and awkward with a pistol grip as you’re rotating the entire gun around a lever arm, vs around it’s center axis. It’s faster and easier with a field stock.

        2. Same goes for combat loading (single round into an empty chamber) and ammo change-overs, malfunction clearing, and unconventional shooting positions like supine or urban prone… Pistol grips are slower and get in the way. There is a lot more room for the support hand to load a shell when the strong hand is up and out of the way in line with the bore/axis.

        3. Recoil management has NOTHING to do with a pistol grip. Relying on the stock for recoil management is wrong. You don’t want to load your wrist like that, and 1/2 of the recoil should be compensated with by the support hand.

        4. Safeties are questionable. On the mossberg or the like a pistol grip is beyond terrible. With a remington or benelli or etc, I prefer a giant button safety I can easily disengage with my trigger finger, but re-engaging the safety does require the hand to come off fire control… But you know what? If you’re engaging the safety, bringing your hand off of and around fire control is fine, or at least something I don’t make a big deal about. On the M4 specifically… That pistol grip and safety was designed for a 7′ tall monster I’m pretty sure.

        On a breaching gun or SBS with no stock I still kinda like bird’s head grips, but I see the reasons to have a pistol grip. … Short story is, if I see a person with a pistol grip on their shotgun… I IMMEDIATELY discount them as not having any idea what they are doing, I have yet to be proven wrong.

        In the case of the M4 or even M1/M2… Well, those field stocks can be really hard to find sometimes, but are still near required.

        • 101nomad

          I really, really, know how to run a shotgun. That ‘101nomad’ is my old outfit, The Nomads of The 101st Airborne. Your way may be just as good as any, you may actually have used shotguns in a firefight. But, your arrogance does not serve you well.

          • JumpIf NotZero

            I’m sorry, did I miss where you disputed or even commented on the content of my post? Or are you part of the internet nice police?

          • 101nomad

            Never had to turn a shotgun upside down to load, among other things you stated. You also stated, “if you really know how to run a shotgun”. Was that in the content of your post? Will not pick it apart, I stand by my statement, your arrogance does not serve you well. My opinion? You are a a knowledgeable man, I do have some doubt about your experience. Last post on this. Knock yourself out.

          • Hyok Kim

            “Never had to turn a shotgun upside down to load, among other things you stated.”

            How do you load your shotgun?

          • 101nomad

            From the bottom. You never used a shotgun either?

          • Hyok Kim

            Please go to 16:16

            “Never had to turn a shotgun upside down to load, among other things you stated.” – 101nomad

            So you believe in less efficient means of reloading a shotgun.

        • Hyok Kim

          Thank you for your post. Your post helped me decide to forego pistol grip for my next shotgun.

          • JumpIf NotZero

            Awesome. You won’t ever be disappointed or held up with a field stock on a 12ga. They’re far more versatile and it’s far easier to roll the gun over with your wrist to one side to load, and the other side to access the chamber for combat reloads, malfs, or semi-auto controls.

            Pistol grips do have their place, on 8-10″ breaching guns.

            I’d recommend a shotgun class, don’t overspend, just go do something that teaches proper handling. And when practicing, try and push forward with your weak hand to mitigate recoil. Shotguns run empty, so practice combat loads from a pocket or carrier, I like pocket as you never know if you’ll get one brass up or brass down. Brass up, roll the gun over to the loading port up bring the round over, index and drop it in the port, close action from there. Brass down come under the gun, index and drop the round in the chamber, close action from there, it’s easy but you’d be shocked how many people have no idea how to do that.

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