Rogers / Colt Super-Stoc AR-15 Stock Review

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Bill Rogers is an internationally known competitor as well as former FBI agent and Police instructor. Mr. Rogers has also invented many of the holsters and other equipment used by police and military around the world. If you’ve ever used a Wilson 47D magazine you’ve used one of his inventions. Bill also produces and markets training videos aimed at efficient use of handguns.

After 40 years in the shooting sports he’s still training and inventing at his north Georgia facility. I want to introduce you to a very fine stock Bill invented for the AR15 called the “Super-Stoc”.

The illustration above details many of the features of the “Super Stoc”

I’ve owned or tested many of the stocks made for AR15’s. Many are well made but there are a few that are a waste of money. This stock is one of the very best at a reasonable price. These stocks retail for $79.95. Of course complete installation instructions are included that are very simple to follow. It took me about 10 minutes to install.

One positive is this stock fits mil spec as well as commercial tubes with only minor changes made during installation to accommodate either. This stock is about as adaptable as they come. I spent a good while trying all the ways available to adjust it. When you receive it the stock is configured for a mil-spec tube. In order to use the stock with a commercial tube all the user has to do is remove the shim in the front of the stock then remove the selector pin. The selector pin is rotated per the instructions to the proper side re-insert and your done.

There is also an option for adjusting the stock for an even tighter fit. With the stock setup in the mil-spec configuration the selector pin can be set for the commercial side making the stock tighter fitting when the cam lock lever is in the lock position. The correct fit is really dependent on how in spec your tube dimensions are. A cautionary note: don’t over tighten the cam lever!

To operate after installation grip the quick release lever which also releases the cam lock lever. Slide the stock to the desired position and pull the cam lock lever up. Left handers will appreciate this stock as well or more so. The cam lock lever can be installed on the left or right side of the AR. The stock operation is quick with very positive lockup.

The “Super-Stoc” has a nice fitting rubber butt plate that hugs the shoulder well. Many stocks use a butt plate that is all plastic with a flat back that isn’t very conducive to a snug shoulder set. The width of the buttpad is also wider than most, I find it very comfortable even after hours of shooting.

I like this stock better than any others I’ve used. So many stocks have a bit of play in them. This stock doesn’t which is a real plus. This is especially true when you have an AR meant for long range shooting. A loose stock can play havoc with accuracy. I also hate a stock that rattles!

This example is actually snug with no play even with the cam lever lock off. One test that has been performed with this stock is dropping the rifle from approximately 36 inches in order to check for strength and any material failures that may occur. I actually repeated this test after removing my optics of course☺ In my test I dropped the rifle from 42 inches from the ground. There was no apparent damage to the stock and it remained in the same position on the tube. I disassembled the stock and found no damage and the stock operated, as it should. While I don’t advise anyone doing this with his or her AR I wanted to know for my own information and to verify the manufacturers test results.

Operation of the stock is very simple as you can see in this video. After using this stock for over two months now I simply use two fingers to operate the Quick Release Lever, move the stock to the desired position then pull the Cam Lock Lever up with my index finger. Operating it in this manner it’s really one repeatable motion. The stock just doesn’t budge once it’s set. This is something I’ve never experienced in other stocks. It seems with others there is always some movement.

The top of the stock that fits around the buffer sleeve is wider than the usual mil-spec stock providing a better cheek weld. Some brands have a very wide top. I know some shooters who prefer this setup however for me it’s too wide and I have to make some contortions to get a good view into whichever optic I’m using.

Conclusion

Mr. Rogers is obviously a very thoughtful engineer. This stock design is very well thought out. As I said earlier some stocks are very minimalists and not well made while others have so many bells and whistles they almost get in the way. This stock has the features a shooter needs without going overboard with unneeded features and a very high price tag.

I would certainly recommend this stock for the AR owner whether they use their rifle for plinking or competition.

You can contact Rogers Shooting School and purchase the stock here.

Happy Shooting!

UPDATE: Rogers has informed up that Colt Firearms will be adopting the Rogers Super-Stoc stocks for all their LE and commercial rifles. the Colt Super-Stoc differs in materials, design and fit. The material used on the Colt Super-Stoc is proprietary to Colt and is strong enough to survive inadvertent drops in extreme temperatures. Also, the internal dimensions of the Colt Super-Stoc is designed to securely fit Colt mil-spec buffer tubes, whereas the Rogers Super-Stoc can fit others rifles.

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Phil White

Retired police officer with 30 years of service. Firearms instructor and SRU team member. I still instruct with local agencies. My daily carry pistol is the tried and true 1911. I’m the senior writer and moderator at TFB as well as the review manager. I really enjoy answering readers questions and comments. We can all learn from each other about our favorite hobby!


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  • Jeff

    Uhh, isn’t that pretty much the Magpul CTR?

    • Phil White

      Jeff,

      I’ve heard that before but no it isn’t. The general shape is similar but the internals are 100% different as are the dimensions. It’s also quickly changed over for left hand shooters. It also fits commercial and mil-spec tubes.

      Phil

  • Daryn

    Hmm… Ill stick with the CTR on my Colt. Looks decent though…

    • Phil White

      Daryn,

      Yep it’s a good one. Did you see at the bottom that Colt is using the Super Stoc mow on all the LE and commercial AR’s they sell?

  • KalashniKEV

    Awesome! I’ve been waiting for them to make a lefty CTR!!!

    • Phil White

      KalashniKEV,

      It only takes a few minutes to change over as you can see from Bill’s video we posted.

      Phil

  • wolf

    Yeah he’s had his rear handed to him a few times re: CTR cloney-ness online. There’s only so many way to make a stock though, sure. The CTR’s much more finished and refined looking. It has that fits any tube thing going for it though.

  • Seraph

    Phil, I’m not sure how you think that the CTR is right- or left-handed specific. Mine seems to work fine from either side.

    • Phil White

      Seraph,

      To me it just seems to be more left hand friendly when the changes are made. That and the lock is so positive configured this way. You also have three settings to make it as snug as you want–more customizable for sure.

  • jdun1911

    Pretty need design that allow you to fit between mil and commercial spec. I’ll probably get it later on to add to my collection.

    • Phil White

      jdun1911,

      I think you’ll like it. The price is sure good at $79. If you make a note on the video that will make it faster to put on:-)

  • soless

    Ever just copy a Magpul design? If Magpull never came out with their stocks, this would never have been invented. That being said, it looks decent but first thing I’d have to do is cut that stupid sling loop off the top. I’d say the $79 price is on point, but it has that sling loop on top.

  • Chris

    The CTR is about as ambidextrous as they come. Something that potentially is quickly changed over for lefties doesn’t sound ambidextrous to me, configurable but not ambi. The quality of the blog has gone downhill since it was bought out. Sad days.

    • Phil White

      Chris,

      How so Chris? We can’t agree all the time. It would be pretty boring if we did. As far as ambi or configureable it’s a matter of semantics. I think we both know what I mean. If you have some suggestions I’ll email you and we can talk about it.

  • Pliskin

    My CTR is ambi no need to change things over. The only thing I see as an advantage is the ability to fit both size tubes which isn’t much of an advantage. Otherwise they are basically the same in function even if they look different inside and out.

    • Phil White

      Pliskin,

      They both have their own merits. This is a good stock so it’s a matter of preference.

  • Jason

    I really like the look of this thing. I’m not huge fan of Magpul aside from one or two items like their vertical grips and mags(obviously), but I don’t like their stocks, so I’ve been buying LMT M4 stocks for a while now. Those lock up nice and snug without any fancy mechanisms and are relatively inexpensive. But like I said, I do like the look of this stock. Will buy!

    • Phil White

      Jason,

      I believe you’ll like it. One thing I haven’t mentioned much is the buttstock is a bit wider than the Magpul which gives me a better lock on my shoulder.

  • Giulio Cesare
  • Flounder

    Whoa… Where is steve? And Phil white how do you manage to post every after every single other guy. Are you steves replacement or something?

    • Phil White

      Flounder,

      No I’m not replacing him. Like he said when the site first changed owners he would be around from time to time. He’s off this week. As far as answering each comment I know when the articles are going up and I want to make sure I answer everyone to the best of my ability. I want readers to know I care about the blog and the opinions or questions of those who read it. I’m a retired police officer and firearms instructor so I have the time to devote to the blog when something is posted.

  • Bandito762

    Chris,

    I heard a story about a gift horse once…

  • Pliskin

    While the stock isn’t for me, I’m happy to see another quality option on the market. Love my ARs. Your doing a good job on the blog Phil keep it up.

    • Phil White

      Pliskin,

      Thank you sir I very much appreciate it!

  • Pat

    Wow, he invented a Magpul CTR.

    • Phil White

      Pat,

      Hello Pat—the CTR and the Rogers are only similar in general appearance. I’m not knocking the CTR by any means I’m just saying this is a very good stock and worthy of consideration. I’ve chosen to use it because I like the way it operates.

  • subase

    It would be cool if someone made a comparison of the major AR stocks. I know there is the original one and the socom one, surely there must be others.

    • Phil White

      subase,

      It would take awhile to get that many stocks to compare but I can try if your serious about this idea. Keep it down to say half a dozen. As far as very good stocks I’d say there are roughly four.

    • Phil White

      subase,

      I’m taking your request to heart. I’ll have a new stock review soon with more to follow. The next is a VLTOR.

  • Doug

    Finally a nice stock that isn’t Magpul and doesn’t cost as much as the rifle! Im all for this one! Good write up, it is nice to see new products that are more than rip offs of another design.

    • Phil White

      Doug,

      Thanks I’m glad you liked the writeup. You do get a lot of bang for the buck with this one.

  • Sid

    I may be the only one, but I think soldiers are going to appreciate the sling loop on the top end. Long ago, we would 100mph tape a sling rig to that point on the weapon. This was before the market exploded with options. When you have to walk around with a weapon hanging from your plate carrier because you have to do other things with your hands, that is the natural point of suspension.

    Some soldiers will prefer the swivel point at the end of the receiver. Preferences vary as much as opinions. But I know many soldiers will use that sling loop if available.

    • Phil White

      Sid,

      If I was carrying the new AR based sniper rifle I’d want to attach at the top of the stock like this one. That way it’s not trying to flip over all the time with the heavy optic on top of the rifle. Since Colt is using this stock on all future LE/ commercial AR’s we may see that kind of use.

  • WeaponBuilder

    While I like the stock from initial appearance, upon closer observation, it does have some disadvantages compared to Magpul CTR.

    One of the most glaring, obvious disadvantages is the placement of the QD Sling mount points, which is much lower, toward the bottom of the stock. Depending on the configuration of the AR-15 / M-4, and the attached optics, this position of QD Sling Mounts can create a problem with the balance and stability of your rifle.

    If you have larger, heavier optics on top, and a sling point further down from the centerline of the rifle’s action, the top-heavy weapon may be prone to rotational imbalance (especially when unloaded & slung, the weapon would have an even higher center of gravity).

    It’s all a matter of personal preferences, but I don’t see much new here. I’m sure it’s a quality stock, but for the price point, I’ll take the CTR which can easily be friction locked ambidextrously without having to reconfigure it for lefty/righty use, and has a higher mounting point for QD Slings. The adjustability of the friction lock on the Rogers may be helpful, but I’d have to see the two side-by-side before I can determine which system I like more.

    With the Rogers stock, if I wanted a higher sling mount position closer to being in-line with the bore and action of the rifle, I’d have to use a 1″ webbing loop through the sling loop on the top (which I don’t really like, even on my M4 stocks).

    Six of One, Half a Dozen of the other… I can’t see anything too unique here – I’ll await personal inspection before I decide between the two, but for now, I’m still somewhat preferring the CTR.

    • Phil White

      WeaponBuilder,

      It is certainly a matter of preference. As I was mentioned Colt adopted these for future use and they made comparisons with other stocks before picking this one. I have used a 1″ webbing attachment on a DPMS heavy barrel with a fairly large scope. It worked out pretty well and stayed vertical.
      Troy makes a sling that comes with the 1 ” webbing attachment. I used that on a long rifle for some time. The sling wrapped around the rear of the stock also.

  • DaveR

    If I was Magpul, I’d file a lawsuit–there’s such a thing as a design patent and before reading the article, I thought the first few pictures were of a black CTR.

    • Phil White

      DaveR,

      I’ve read that many times on various forums. There won’t be a lawsuit since there is a difference between general shape and the way the controls work. MagPul has no plans to file any lawsuits. I talked with them about this issue. They pretty much consider it a non-issue.
      Make no mistake I’m not knocking Magpul or VLTOR etc. I did say in the review there are some fine stocks out there.

  • Lance

    looks nice but I prefer a A2 or A1 stock they so much more stable and stronger than any collapsible.

  • jay1975

    There are so many stocks on the market already. Just another tacticool waste of money for the militia folks.

  • Soless

    “Pat,

    Hello Pat—the CTR and the Rogers are only similar in general appearance. I’m not knocking the CTR by any means I’m just saying this is a very good stock and worthy of consideration. I’ve chosen to use it because I like the way it operates.”

    Because it operates much like the Magpul? How much experience do you with this stock? Are you getting kickbacks from Rodgers or whoever makes the stock? Ehh, I don’t really need to know but it seems like it. I agree it is another option for a buttstock and it should be being based off the Magpul design. Quick tech questions. I see that the recoil pad on the stock is removable. Why? Is the bare stock textured or are there different sized recoil pads ot something?

    • Phil White

      Soless,

      It is removable if you wanted to replace it after a long while of hard use getting inevitable wear. There is only one pad size. It’s a different stock as far as manipulating the controls and the way they are laid out. I tested and used this stock for two months before writing the review so I’ve used it a lot considering I go to the range three times a week. Folks can nitpick this stock to death but the article is about this stock not a comparison between the two.
      As far as your comment about my getting kickbacks from Rogers or anyone else the answer is an emphatic NO! I have a strong dedication to my personal honor and integrity so this is an insult no matter how you look at it. I believe an apology is due but I’ll not expect one. I fail to see the need for this type of statement on a blog that makes every effort to be informative and accurate in presentation of products reviewed.
      I have no problem with those dedicated to a particular brand until the comments reach this point of an inappropriate comment. I’ll not address any further questions concerning Magpul stocks. This about the merits of the Rogers stock.
      You’ll notice I didn’t refuse posting the comment regardless of some content.
      By the way my name is Phil not Pat——-

  • Nathaniel

    SHUN THE NONBELIEVER! SHUNUNUNUNUUUUHHHH!!!

    Seriously, I think Phil would benefit from a healthy dose of skepticism. Defending this product which is so transparently a clone of the Magpul CTR really hurts your credibility, and, I’m really sorry to say, hurts the credibility of my beloved The Firearm Blog.

    “The internals are completely different”? Seriously? Dude, it’s an AR stock. It has two mechanisms, the LOP adjustment lever and the friction lock (most AR stocks don’t even have the latter), both of which are on the outside where we can see them (and they both work exactly the same way). You tout that it’s “configurable” for right or left-hand users, when the CTR is identical on either side. You then say there’s only a semantic difference between true ambidexterity and configurable ambidexterity, when there’s a real functional difference: With one, it doesn’t matter if you switch shoulders while shooting; with the other, it does.

    Then you get on the comments and make sure NO CRITICISM GOES UNFOUGHT. There’s one section where you literally post five comments in a row, lest a skeptic get the last word in.

    To add insult to injury, you’re shamelessly promoting a transparent ripoff of a product of one of the few companies in the industry who really tries to shake things up, which probably infringes on design patents and might even infringe on mechanical patents.

    Where’s Steve? We need our Dear Leader back.

    • Phil White

      Nathaniel,

      Hey all I’m doing is answering people. Arguing over a stock review is kinda silly isn’t it? As far as I know every comment has come through with an answer and anyone is free to comment back. The CTR is a good stock and so is the Rogers as well as several others. I never said otherwise. If you think about it if I was shunning people I would just trash the comments I didn’t like but then that wouldn’t be right or fair.
      In fact I’ve emailed a few people who were rather aggravated trying to get a dialog going to work things out in a civil manner but I’ve yet to get an answer. You may not believe me but all I want is a fair shake on this stock or any gun I review. The purpose is to introduce new products that others most likely haven’t had any experience with yet. I encourage comments as long as they are civil.Open minded helps as well. Take care–

  • Hrachya Hayrapetyan

    I also think that it would be great to see a video with comparison of markets’ best stocks. And it would be even better if there is some kind of hardness test in the video!
    Guys, I personally like the way Phil White does – he answers to each question and discusses each idea or opinion.
    Great job Phil, keep it up !!!

    • Phil White

      Hrachya,

      Thank you sir. That is on the money —– just answering comments. If I can swing it I’ll try to get several stocks and compare them.

  • http://aricdavis.com Aric

    Nathaniel hit it dead on the money. This post reads like an ad, and if it isn’t one, that just makes it more ridiculous.

    • Phil White

      Aric,

      Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Some like it some don’t. It’s not an ad so I’ll take the hit. One last thing. I’d like to keep the comments relative to the stocks.

  • Nathaniel

    Phil,

    When Steve writes, he usually does so with a healthy dose of skepticism. While I realize not everyone can (or should) write like Steve, readers have come to expect that from TFB. Unbiased, nonpolitical gun news. That’s what TFB has been and that’s what GunsForSale bought (an acquisition that I support). One of the main outlets for the readers is the comments, and by commenting that the sort of “bias by silence” in your post and just straight bias in the comments turns me off, and hurts TFB’s reputation, I’m sending a message to GFS and to Steve.

    We come for unbiased, apolitical gun news, we don’t come to be sold products.

    • Phil White

      Nathaniel,

      They both read it before it was posted as are all reviews. I’m glad you emailed them. We have already discussed it. When I emailed you I was looking to have a good conversation. A bias outlook is not my intention just a fair shake for the product or gun. I’m not sure what the definition of politics would be after re-reading my review but I keep politics out of it. I’m honestly not trying to sell anything just present something for your consideration.

  • Eric

    LOL invented. How about stole from magpul.

    • Phil White

      Eric and all,

      I want to post my own comment here and see if we can reach a middle ground. When I write a review my intent is to give you an honest review of whatever product I’m writing about. If I find a problem with a particular product I’ll say so. The last thing I want is for someone to act on information that isn’t as close to 100% correct as I can present it. Normally when I receive a gun for review I use it for 2 months before doing the review. I’ll also try to put as many rounds through it as I can afford. Yes I buy my own ammo for these reviews. The same goes for equipment—– it gets a 6 to 8 week tryout before I write the review if possible. The note at the bottom of the review concerning Colt adopting this stock was a last minute news item we just learned of and added. It’s just news and not a sales pitch by any means.
      If you want me to be more critical of items reviewed I’ll try to do that. I’m one of those guys who looks at the glass as half full so being skeptical of all items reviewed is not a natural thing for me to do. After all not all guns or other shooting products have problems. I understand the concerns expressed when comparing the CTR with the Rogers stock. There are a good number of quality stocks out there as I said in the very first part of the review. It just so happens I believe this is one of them. If you don’t agree I understand that. I just ask that my view is as respected as much as I respect yours. I would just prefer a fair shake for any item reviewed. I welcome constructive criticism. If you feel something needs to be addressed in depth ask me to email you and I’ll certainly do that.
      I want this and all reviews to be an enjoyable experience not a war of words when there is a difference of opinion. I’ve written a review of the Marlin Golden 39 which will be posted Monday. I hope you all find it enjoyable. Again, if anyone would like to have a conversation of what you would like to see and how it’s presented I’ll be glad to have a conversation with anyone.

      Phil

  • Jason

    People have way too much damn time on their hands these days. Move on, guys. Get on with your lives already.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/ Steve (The Firearm Blog)

      I think everyone needs to remember that Phil is also entitled to his opinion, just as you are and just as I am. If you don’t agree with him (or me) you can say so, but please be respectful.

  • DaveR

    Phil,

    With all respect–you’ve posted *more text* in your RESPONSES to your review than in the review itself!!

    I’m not knocking what you have to say, only that the article itself is where they need to be said.

    “Comments” sections should (generally) be left free for the readers…

    • Phil White

      DaveR,

      It would be easier for me that’s for sure. When I answer a comment the purpose is to be helpful and take part in the discussion.

  • Soless

    Phil, I do owe you an apology. From some odd reason I got your name wrong. With all sincerity, I’m sorry about that. Moving on.

    • Phil White

      Soless,

      No problem no offense taken at all. Thanks for the apology.

  • Hrachya Hayrapetyan

    “Oh nooo…Phil makes me buy that stock … nooo …please …”
    Relax guys! What’s the matter? Phil has tested that stock and says his opinion…he liked it! What do you say when you really like a certain good?
    Do you want him to criticize just to…criticize?
    If Magpul doesn’t mind , then it must be ok , isn’t it?

    • Phil White

      Hrachya,

      Thanks for understanding my intent!

  • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/ Steve (The Firearm Blog)

    Nathaniel, my email address is thefirearmblog@gmail.com

  • Grindstone

    Phil,

    I am not a devoted follower of TFB, only the occasional glance at a review from time to time. However, I do read reviews for various products across the web as a whole. I found yours to be very straight, with no frills or fluff, and an easy read. I detected no overtures of salesmanship or bias. You did qualify your introduction with explaining this is not the “be-all, end-all” stock, but rather another acceptable entry into the market. Capitalism at work, if you will.
    It seems to me that most of the comments from the detractors is more a type of brand-loyalty than truly objective reasoning. The reference to the visual similarities of the CTR and the Rogers is a fallacious argument. Are not the plethora of ARs made today all derived from the original Stoner/Armalite creation?
    I would like to add, thank you for taking the time to address everyone personally. It is refreshing to see someone take an active interest in the readers, rather than just being an ambiguous author. It’s not as if you are moderating or censoring comments.
    But, as always, the anonymity of the Internet can bring out the trolls.

    Regards,
    Grindstone

    • Phil White

      Grindstone,

      I truly appreciate your well thought out comment. I also agree with your statements concerning brand loyalty. In many forums you see the same type of loyalty and heated arguments which are uncalled for in a civilized conversation. Especially true is the comment of all AR’s derive from the original Stoner design.
      I have had those who don’t like my replies to all comments but I have always preferred to take an active part rather than anonymity. When I comment my purpose is always to help fellow shooters as well as explain my reasons for a particular statement.

      Many Thanks for your comment!
      Phil

  • Mike

    I have used the Magpul CTR which is a very popular stock, and just done building my 2nd AR15 and wanted to try the Rogers Super Stoc and it is now my favorite. It has some similarity with the CTR but its is a total different design. I’m looking at both of them as I post this and it’s not the same. While the CTR locks up tight on the buffer tube the Super Stoc locks on just a little tighter. With it’s ability to be placed on a Mil-spec or commercial buffer tube, you don’t need to find out which one you have…….just buy it and install it!

    • Phil White

      Mike,

      Pretty handy design isn’t it! Glad to hear you are enjoying using yours. I guess you saw in the review that this is now Colts standard stock with all new Colt AR’s sold.

      Take care

  • Brian B

    I read Phil’s review and watched Bill Rogers video about this stock and it looks like a solid product!
    I regularly use Magpul’s CTR and ACS stocks on my AR’s and like features in each of the designs.
    The main advantage of the Roger’s stock, as I see it, is the versatility of switching from milspec to commercial tubes. The other advantage is the ability to adjust the locking tension (which is not present on Magpul’s design).
    I plan to purchase one for my newest AR rifle – a 300 AAC Blackout.

    • Phil White

      Brian,

      It sure is a darn good stock. The one I tested is still on my AR and is tight as ever!

  • Ray Cook

    Say:

    Like all plastic, it is STILL, PLASTIC. Come-on folks, when is a company going to give us serious AR folks an aluminum, adjustable stock which locks up tight without silly levers or such; and with about one inch grearter drop at the toe of the stock. The closest thing we have, is with the ACE stocks, but they fall short too.

    • Phil White

      Ray,

      The main problem Ray is the cost of making one in aluminum. The price is going to be upwards of $300 from what my industry sources tell me.

    • Hyok Kim

      What is your problem with ACE?

  • counsel

    Here is a good comparison/test of several s

    http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2012/02/01/buttstock-bashfest-gearscout-finds-out-just-how-far-tough-talk-goes/

    I like the cist/benefit of the Rogers…