New Remington 1911 R1

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In November last year rumors started circulating that Remington would introduce a 1911 pistol. The Remington 1911 R1 has finally been officially announced.

Remington R1 1911 (from GunSource ad) Thanks Tyler for sending it in.

Back in 1917, at the height of WWI, the U.S. Ordnance Department ordered Remington-UMC1 to produce 500,000 1911 pistols. By the time the Armistice was signed on November 11, 1918 Remington had produced 21,677 1911s. 91 years later Remington is once again producing John M. Browning’s famous design.

The pistol is featured in June issue of Shooting Illustrated.

The new Remington 1911 R1 pistol is a variant of the 1911A1 design. Remington has added a flared and lowered ejection port, beveled magazine well, loaded chamber indicator, high profile dovetailed single-dot front and two-dot rear sights, a crisp 3.5-5 lbs trigger and a match grade stainless steel barrel with barrel bushing.

The pistols will be manufactured at the Remington factory in Ilion, New York. Remington plans on shipping the pistols in June.

Specifications
Action Single Action
Caliber .45 ACP
Magazine Capacity 7 rounds
Barrel Length 5″
Barrel Material Stainless Steel
Barrel Finish Satin Black Oxide
Rifling Twist Rate 1:16 LH
Overall Length 8.5″
Overall Height 5.5″
Grip Material Walnut
Grip Design Checkered (Double Diamond)
Trigger Pull 3.5 – 5 lbs
Average Weight 38.5 oz
MSRP (Price) $699

The Freedom Group, Remington’s parent company, has now finally entered the handgun market. I would not be surprised to see a concealed carry pistol come forth from Remington or another Freedom Group company with the next year.

J got his hands on the new pistol …

It is 100% American made: parts and all. The trigger is crisp, and as described in the article. Although there is a small amount of movement in the slide to frame fit, it is very well done for a $699 1911. The loaded chamber indicator is a cut in the hood simliar to S&W and others. This means it won’t be acceptible in California in it’s current form.

100% American made, good quality control, good trigger, $699 = winner!


  1. Not to be confused with Remington Rand who produced 1911s during WWII. Rand is a different company. 

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  • Nathan

    More 1911s, just what the market needs… Time to embrace the future, not that tired old thing.

  • Tom Stone

    I am glad to see more good quality 1911 pistols at a reasonable price point.I could do without the loaded chamber indicator though,an added cost and no benefit to anyone with a modicum of sense or training.

  • Jacob

    The future, haha, now I want one of these.

  • Josh

    yawn

  • Jim

    Goddamn, that’s a thing of beauty. I have no cash, but this is still very tempting. I hope the level of quality matches the appearance.

  • Clint1911

    “match grade stainless steel barrel”

    I’m seeing this a lot recently. What EXACTLY makes a barrel “match grade”? Or is it a meaningless term that implies “does not suck” ?

    • John U

      Tighter tolerance, better machining.

  • 4Cammer

    Any idea where the slide and frame are produced? If they are made and machined in the US and forged 699.00 is a heck of a good $$ point.

    Was never a big fan of the 1911 platform until a Kimber “series 1″ was gifted to me and I detail stripped it. John Moses Browning was a master. Not everyone wants tupperware in their holster Nathan…

  • Erik

    @Nathan, you’re crazy. The future is 1911s. Always has been :-). They are great. I would take any 1911 over any other pistol.

  • Matthew S.

    Yes please. Helluva bargain…seems to be.

  • Ron

    I think what Nathan is saying is he can’t shoot one very well, the .45ACP has too much recoil for him and the 1911 platform is too complicated for him to clean and maintain.

  • KP

    now do a HiPower.

  • jaekelopterus

    Not real original, but $700 ain’t bad. The only thing I would ask for is a nitride finish or something similar. I live in a very wet, foggy environment and I don’t tend to carry blued guns.

  • Nadnerbus

    With regards to the loaded chamber indicator, California (where the hell else?) has a law on the books that requires them for any new models of handgun to be sold in the state. Signed by our current Republican governator no less. I don’t know if another 1911 counts as “new,” but knowing this state, it probably does. And there are 36 million potential customers, so it makes sense from a business stance.

    Sooner or later I am going to be in the market for a 1911. I don’t need a high end uber gun like so many of the top dollar 1911s out there, but want some decent quality too. This looks really intriguing.

  • Lance

    I like it seems nice BUT over priced a 1911 is a 1911 and $4-$500 is what ones worth.

  • http://www.WeaponsCache.com WeaponsCache.com – Matt

    Good luck, Remington. I don’t see how they’re going to pull it off. Rock Island Armory produces a fine 1911 for under $500. If you want a top of the line 1911, pick from a hat. Where is Remington planning on fitting into this market?

  • Jason

    More diversity in the market is never a bad thing. If they built it right and it is a great shooting and reliable gun, it may motivate some other manufacturers to up their game. It is good to see it at this price point. I doubt this will be the only model they will produce, and if this is the base model, we can expect well featured and reasonably priced models in the future.

  • Aurelien

    Got to see how they hold up time-wise. Perhaps a little bit too ‘basic’, the Serie80/milspec style is nice but not really moderne. Well at 700$ a piece you’ll have some spare change for an EB beavertail, a commander hammer and a longer trigger.

  • http://www.dooms-day-device.com Puke

    It’s probably a fine gun and I have a soft spot like any other gun-nut for the 1911; but I can’t really get excited about yet another 1911 model.

  • rubbershotgun

    while im sure that john browning would be thrilled knowing that a firearm he made so long ago is still in common use. I am never the less going to bet the farm that he would have preferred that we moved on. makes me wonder what he would think about firearms such as glocks.

    that said, given remingtons depthless quality control as of late. i for one am looking forward to seeing how those guns work out, hopefully they will work out fine.

  • http://www.kaliber.hu gvass

    This price is competitive with Taurus or Armscor, is it really Made in USA?

  • Carl

    A basic 1911 at a decent price is always nice, but I agree with Tom that they should drop the loaded chamber indicator and the other “improvements”. Other than adding cost and possibly complexity it detracts from the historical appeal of the 1911. I’m not too fond of the barrel and bushing being in a different color either. Just make it exactly like a GI A1 and you’ll have a winner.

    Here is the original by Remington Rand:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M1911A1.JPG

  • Dom

    @Clint1911 — It just means tighter tolerances. Basically, the machine is supposed to be more accurate than the most accurate humans out there. That makes it suitable for competition. However, the tradeoff is reliability. Tighter tolerances means less toleration of dirt, sand, etc. However, for those of us who own a gun to shoot at the range, clean once we get it home, and then have it sit in a nightstand/holster as we go about our day in America, the ammo will still be the weak point on reliability.

    It adds to your cost a little bit. How much depends on how tight the tolerances actually are. If each barrel has to be hand-fitted, it’s pricey. If they are just sorting barrels and slides by size and being more precise about the grouping, it costs less. XD(m) is an example of the latter, and I suspect this is, too.

  • Pete

    Its now official…EVERYONE is making 1911′s…

  • Zach

    After using a range of far more modern pistols, I find the 1911 compellingly good. It’s just amazing to me how it exceeds so many designs that are 75 years or more newer.

    Anyway, big questions for me are whether the slide and frame are forged or cast, and the overall level of quality. If they make this thing like an 870 Express, I don’t want one. If they make it at least as nice as a Springfield Armory mil-spec, I can see one in my future.

  • Redchrome

    I like the big sights. Ought to make the suppressor users happy.
    Makes me wonder if this wasn’t part of some gov’t contract, since Remington seems to be doing a lot more military stuff these days (presumably through its parent organization) and there’s recently been surreptuous purchases of M1911s by the military according to this blog.

    “Offensive Handgun” idea coming around again?

  • Gary F

    So far there have been two proclamations that Remington has finally officially announced the 1911 pistol but their website is silent about this event, which seems a pretty odd PR move. I wrote them about this and maybe they will tell me if it is true.
    The new gun does look pretty good and the price is right. My Kimber has already filled the bill but if I was to buy another 1911 I would look at the Remington.
    I think this is a good thing…if it’s true

  • Martin

    That is a fine looking, serviceable 1911 from a quality company at a great price.

    @Nathan, long after all the plastic pistols have gone brittle and broken, 1911s will still be in service.

  • DaveP.

    Ooh ah look. Another- YET another 1911. This makes, what, 23? 30? Most of which are made by the same manufacturer and just marked for the seller, of course. And all basically identical.

    Wow. This’ll just set the world on fire, it will.

    Commence the fanboy droolfest.

  • Gary F

    Remington just returned my mail and they confirm this is happening! Frankly, I am excited about this. I love the looks of this version of the 1911 and I think it’s a good thing for Remington to get into pistols.
    This means, that a very large corporation has done market research that reveals that handguns will be a good market to be in. Why this was concluded might be interesting.
    I have friends who want a 1911. I will point them towards the Remington now.

  • http://www.nitroexpress.com Mehul Kamdar

    The actual price at which the guns are sold is likely to be a couple of hundred dollars off the SRP. it should be worth buying at that price.

  • http://www.shootingillustrated.com Guy

    I think Shooting Illustrated’s cover does is justice.

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3685839&id=363147449221

  • http://www.pervasivelight.com/blog dave

    Jeez everyone’s getting into the 1911 game these days.

    http://i.imgur.com/1pu1h.jpg

  • GS

    1911 really does stand for the number of companies that make them.

  • zach

    the 1911 is like the AR-15 now, amazing weapon, made by EVERYBODY.

  • http://aricdavis.com Aric

    Gary,

    Did you think the Shooting Times cover was a joke? Seriously, what confirmation did you need?

  • dmurray

    I sold myself this gun three times, once as a Mark IV series 70 (collet bushing broke off one of its fingers), a Delta Elite 10mm (bucked off the front sight blade and left side plunger tube), a series 80 stainless enhanced. The simplest firearm in the world to disassemble AND completely in the public domain, no wonder the 1911 market is wide open. I wish the manufacturers well who are in time to trot out their centennial models.

  • Jason

    Although, I would prefer the firearm without the “improved” loaded chamber indicator, it is a necessity for the folks in California. It was a good strategy on Remington’s part to include the Cali folks as they do the 3rd most gun reg’s in the country. They may release, non “improved” versions in the future if the market demands it.

    There are a lot of 1911′s on the market, but a lot are foreign made and have very poor quality control. Even the US manufacturers have slipped quite a bit. Kimber’s were the top of the charts when they were first released, but now a vast amount of the firearms are non reliable out of the box. I’d like to see a well priced gun that will force other companies to spend some money on QC.

    More power to Remington and I can’t wait to see what other areas they jump into…..Remington Revolvers? Remington Polymer Pistols? Remington Shotguns….oh wait….

  • subase

    I want to know when 7-Eleven is coming out with their 1911, now there is a target market if I ever seen one.

  • SpudGun

    Poor old Nathan, he makes a perfectly accurate statement that he’s tired of seeing replicas of a 100 year old pistol and the 1911 fanatics pour down their vengeance upon him like emotionally wounded teenage girls who’ve had their favourite boy band desparaged.

    When will Nathan learn that the 1911 is the bestest pistol ever, Mustang is the greatest sports car ever, Lynard Skynard is the pinnacle of musical excellence and that moustaches and mullets never go out of style? Yeeha, etc. :)

    Why buy a more modern design that is accurate and reliable straight out of the box? Why buy a pistol that is lighter and less expensive and holds more rounds in it’s magazine? Why buy modern 9mm ammo that is ballistically similar to .357 Magnum?

    Why do all that when you can spend $700 on a South American copy of a heavy old pistol and then spend another $500 getting the damn thing to work properly?

    See how foolish you are Nathan. (SpudGun puts on his flame proof suit in preperation for the emotive responses)

  • Dom

    Obvious troll is obvious…you just knocked Skynyrd, Mustangs, facial hair, AND 1911s, in one post. That might be a new internet record.

    Bottom line is the 1911 has a lot of history (not to mention military REadoption) behind it to suggest it’s a pretty good pistol. Glocks are not far behind (well shorter on history, but widely adopted). All great guns, all have shortcomings…nothing’s perfect.

  • Darwin

    That huge Remington on the slide looks like ass. I hate it when companies do that. i don’t see the need for yet another low cost 1911. It’s an antiquated design. Thats coming from someone who has 30+ years experience with the 1911 including many years in the Marines as an issued weapon. Too many points of failure and far too much maintenance and parts replacement required. I’ll take an M&P, HK 45, or Glock 21 FS if I want a .45

  • jones

    I got the magazaine with this on the cover in the mail the other day and, of course, they don’t mention where the parts are from. That means one thing: Eastern Europe. Ok, maybe Turkey or the Phillipines. Seriously, though, could one of you alleged “gun writers” do some actual damn reporting and tell us how much of this gun is MADE in the USA, not BUILT in the USA. We’re not all idiots who don’t get the distinction.

  • jdun1911

    I really don’t want to get into this but the lack of understand of 1911 and in general the lack of understanding of firearms make me want to post. It make me also wonder if some of these posters actually own or have shoot a handgun.

    I own several 1911.

    1. Let use critical thinking skills for a second. Why are there so many 1911 manufacture? Well because the demand of 1911 pistols are great. It is a money maker. It has always been a money maker in the USA. It is the best selling auto pistol for the past 70 years and it will continue to for the foreseeable future.

    2. The 1911 is the only handgun in the USA that can get away with a $3000+ price tag. A month ago one of our gun club member bought a $2000+ 1911 for competition.

    3. Almost all handguns are a copy/mortify of Browning designs or was created in the late 19th and early 20th century. The only difference between older firearms and newer one is that the newer ones are made out of cheap plastic.

    4. What does Blackwater and other private training school used? Mostly 1911 and Glocks.

    5. What handguns dominate the competition world in the USA? 1911 and Glocks. What handguns are use by the best shooters in world? 1911 and Glocks.

    http://www.idpa.com/tj.asp?ID=252

    6. The 1911 has the best trigger out of the box. It gets better with match grade trigger pack. It has short travel, light pull, and very short reset which made it ideal for combat and competition. It has one of the best ergo design in any handgun.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50-plo48

    7. What handgun does US Special Operators used? 1911. These people put their live on the line everyday. Do you think they would use cheap weapons and gears?

    8. What handguns does PSD in Afghanistan and Iraq carry? 1911 or Glocks. These people put their live on the line everyday. Do you think they would use cheap weapons and gears?

    9. What handgun in the US military have proven itself in many wars and in different environments? 1911.

    10. Even in today environment there is a strong push to replace the M9 with the 1911.

    11. 1911 are status symbol in the USA. When I see someone carry a 1911 I know that he has some basic knowledge of how to handle a firearm and firearm in general.

    The 11 points I made aren’t opinions. They are facts.

  • Simon

    “So, you carry a 1911? Call yourself an acolyte of John Moses Browning? Look kid, hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side.”

  • subase

    I want to know when someone will make a 1911 pistol with mohair/fake fur slide. So people can pet it and rub it against their cheek, I think it would be pretty popular.

    The 1911 is now the bimbo of the pistol world. Pretty but no substance. The Glock is the great girl with average looks you want to marry. All substance, no frills.

    That’s why it continues to remain so popular, people love a pretty face and like to show it off to others, it makes them feel more manly. The Glock though is a superior combat pistol on every level, and that for some people is all that matters, not it’s looks or value as a status symbol.

  • subase

    And in the military a 1911 is just fake courage and morale support (very important), as is the pistol in general.

    Because the chance of a grunt ever using a pistol in combat is microscopic, and if you did have to use a pistol, a knife would probably be a better option.

  • Bill Lester

    If the 1911 is so outdated, why does the consumer market want and maintain so many manufacturers and variants? Why do the likes of the FBI SWAT and HRT use it? Why is it the issue weapon of LAPD’s SIS? Why do so many professional weapons trainers have a 1911 in their holsters? Why is the USMC not-so-covertly working to bring it back as a widely issued military sidearm? Why, after a century of use, can this outdated dinosaur still be found as the preferred sidearm of many SF operators? Why oh why?

    Because it’s still the best damn autoloading pistol ever made.

    As an update on this particular pistol, I just read the Shooting Times article while the Mrs. was grocery shopping. The Remington 1911 R1 looks like a pretty good choice. If they make a Commander-length version, I’ll be at the front of the ordering queue.

  • jdun1911

    I rarely have to defend the 1911 in any gunboards. Even people that don’t like the 1911 will respect it service over its long rich history. They do not bad mouth it like posters on this thread.

    I assume you never have proper combat training in the use of pistol and carbine, subase. Pistol are use when your primary runs dry or have a malfunction . It’s called transition to your secondary. It is what all training school teach so you don’t get killed in combat. Murphy Laws always happen at a very bad time. The only thing that will keep you alive or limit the damage is your training.

    There was an article a few years back. The SAW operator weapon malfunction when they were doing house to house sweep. He transition to his handgun (M9) and killed two Iraqi insurgents.

    It is also silly to tell what is correct way and not to the people that been there and done that base your limited knowledge of firearms and firearms training.

    Do you think you have more firearms knowledge and training then Todd Jarret and other profession handgun shooters? These people have been shooting since they could walk. Do you know what their primary handgun in competition and protection? 1911.

    Do you think you have more firearms knowledge and training then people like Pat Roger, Blackwater trainers, Special Operation personnel, firearms trainers, etc with your limited knowledge of firearms and firearms training? Do you know what the majority carry, train, and fight with? 1911.

    For a lack of better term it is fucking stupid to criticized a firearms that been in the US military for about 80 years, been in two major World Wars, countless conflicts, proven in all combat environments, the best selling auto in the USA for 70 years, countless professionals use it, and God knows what else. Fucking stupid to called it a “bimbo of the pistol world”.

  • Laenhart

    @subase
    Any time when a soldier would be interested in using a pistol a knife is a better choice? Really? Might want to rethink that one.

    I’ve never been able to understand the criticisms of the 1911 as antiquated. It may have been developed long before virtually any handguns still in use, and it may not have as many features, but it is still a design superior or equal to any on the market.
    In terms of capacity, the 1911 has plenty. If you really need more than 8 shots, you need a rifle, not a handgun.
    If the 1911 is too heavy, or too complex, you should seriously reconsider carrying a weapon at all – it might be too strenuous for you.
    At the ranges that most handguns are used, the differences between worthwhile handguns are insignificant. The shooter is far more important to accurate shooting at any range.
    Most importantly, cartridge wars are stupid. The differences between major handgun cartridges are very limited. No auto handgun cartridge has enough behind it to make it significantly better than the others. 3 shots will work better than 1 in any of the calibers.
    It’s like trying to argue that a folding chair made of plastic is better or worse than one made of steel. I can sit on both of them, can’t I?!

    In other words, the 1911 is still a fantastic gun. There are many other very worthwhile weapons readily available, and you would be well served by any of them. Some people simply prefer a particular design.
    This is coming from someone who loves the 1911, “cheap” plastic guns, and quite a few others as well.

  • subase

    I think the 1911 is an inferior gun to a Glock on every level. Saying that, I would still buy one. Why? Cause it’s a piece of history, it’s made out of all metal, it’s pretty, it’s got a small grip you can get more of your hand around and it’s got those outdated gizmo’s called ‘safety’s’.

    Those are the reasons why it’s so popular.

    SWAT use it cause it’s cheap and they rely on overwhelming firepower, they aren’t going to get into pistol fights.

    Special ops, use it cause it’s cheap, a morale booster (being ‘the best pistol in the world’ and all) and they have no choice.

    It’s like a personal knife. It’s like a personal sword. When it comes to personal affection towards a weapon, the 1911 is everyones favorite female celebrity. Think about it, what would you rather sleep with next to your pillow, a custom 1911 or a Glock/XD?

  • Carl

    http://www.idpa.com/tj.asp?ID=252
    I count 90 1911′s and 136 Glocks in that list.

    These brand wars are kind of pointless. In the end what makes the most difference whether you are shooting competitively or defending yourself is training and practice with the tools at your disposal.

  • SpudGun

    ‘Obvious troll is obvious…you just knocked Skynyrd, Mustangs, facial hair, AND 1911s, in one post. That might be a new internet record.’

    Why thank you Dom, it’s almost too easy to push the buttons of the 1911 faithful.

    And as much as I hate to disagree with jdun1911 (I really do not like disagreeing with him, he knows his stuff) – his ‘facts’ are very subjective –

    1911 is the bestest because it’s popular – so is crystal meth, Toyota Corollas and American Idol – just because something is popular and a money maker doesn’t make it the best.

    Browning design – yep, almost all modern pistols are a knock off of a Browning design – the Browning Hi-Power, not the 1911.

    SF guys use it – some do, some don’t and if you’re ‘going native’, the Special Boys will be carrying Makarovs or whichever local flavor the indigenous population prefers.

    Proven itself in combat – So has the Brown Bess, doesn’t mean it’s the best.

    And finally, the last statement kind of contradicts itself – jdun states that if he sees someone with a 1911 then they must have a basic understanding of firearms, yet he also states that the 1911 is the best selling handgun ever – I’m not sure how one translates to the other.

    Again, I have nothing but respect for jdun1911, he’s ‘schooled’ me more then once on this blog, but I’m afraid I don’t share the passion for his pistol of choice.

    For the record, I don’t like Glocks either – I know, I’m a freak.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com Steve

      Enough trolling. To say the 1911 is outdated design is ludicrous, it is outdated is like saying Glocks are outdated.

      1911s are selling more now than ever. They are used by competition shooters, self defense experts and the USMC.

      You may not like the 1911. Fair enough. I personally am a Glock faboi.

      This blog is not a place to troll glock vs. 1911 or AK vs. AR or any other pointless debates arguments.

  • Aurelien

    Well there are two other people that have seen wide use and are still considered worth using… The GP35 (Browing HP) and the Makarov PM. They are old designs but are still widely used.

    The one reason everybody makes 1911 clones is that it sells. Period.

  • Jason

    What huge handgun advances have there been since the 1911 was first put into service? Materials have changed. Aluminum was not being used at the time for firearms. Plastics did not exist then as in their current form. Coatings have advanced as well since then, but over the years all of these things have been applied to the venerable old 1911. Handgun mechanics have not changed a lot because it’s hard to improve on what really works. External extractors existed back then. Browning used them in a lot of his guns designs. He designed the 1911 to have an internal extractor instead. Guns existed then that were more ambidextrous, but Browning passed for his own reasons. Fixed barrel pistols existed, but Browning’s action was efficient for feeding and extraction. High capacity firearms existed, but once again that option wasn’t chosen most likely to the ergonomics.

    Nothing is new under the sun. Glock wasn’t the first plastic pistol. Heck, H&K wasn’t even the first plastic pistol. S&W beat them to it with a well working prototype, but was shot down by some execs. I wouldn’t even be surprised to hear that some less known individual made a plastic handgun before Smith.

    That’s not to say that there haven’t been accessory and modification improvements over the years, but the basic platforms have really remained unchanged. I just don’t see why everyone argues about this. Buy what you want. Be happy that more companies make more guns because you will have more choices. You never know, but Remington may jump into the handgun game with a 1911 and then develop something totally different and “revolutionary”. Applaud the effort. I really think that most of these arguments are about people wanting to think that what they have is better than what someone else has. Guess what? It’s not.

  • Squidpuppy

    The more 1911s, the better. Would be nice if for the centennial there could be 100 models available world-wide. Hm. Maybe I’ll go off internet hunting right now and find out just how many are currently out there…

  • Thomas

    Where does the 1911 out shine all other pistol designs.. Its in its light, crisp Single Action trigger pull.. like a fine rifle.. properly tuned of course.. Not to mention its a slim design..

    Thats why i sold all my Glocks, and HKs.. Too thick.. Worst triggers ever.. One can not shoot accurately with a crappy trigger.. a firearms most important feature.. Every one seems to have for gotten that when it comes to pistols..

  • Clodboy

    “2. The 1911 is the only handgun in the USA that can get away with a $3000+ price tag. A month ago one of our gun club member bought a $2000+ 1911 for competition.”

    And European-made double rifles are the only rifles that can get away with a $50,000+ price tag – maybe the Marines should instead have awarded the IAR contract to a Holland&Holland design chambered in .600 NE ;)

    Seriously though – it’s kind of understandable that people who don’t like 1911s will roll their eyes at what they perceive to be a sign of stagnating imagination in the gun market, while 1911 lovers are happy about more competition and thus hopefully even better value in the 1911 market.

    Still, you’d figure that even with a time-honored design like the 1911, there’d be some room for improvements given the wide range of new materials and accessories in recent years (excluding race guns with exorbitant price tags).
    Then again, given the current economic climate, making a “normal” 1911 is probably the safest bet for many manufacturers.

  • Aurelien

    You can say whatever you want, personal preference is the key in all this. If you don’t feel right with your handgun, everything else is irrelevant.

    So you can be a fanboy, you can be logical, you can start flame wars, but you can’t change the fact that you don’t decide what other people use. Yes sure, some people are not down with the fact that they are issued a 1911-like pistol. Same things happens with Sigs, Berettas, Glocks… I personally don’t like Glocks – i don’t have the hands for most of their lineup, and they are the ‘apple’ of firearms industry (i hate apple too) – but i respect the people that do.

    If you don’t like the 1911 platform, if you dont feel right using it, don’t buy one. I don’t think anybody will think less of you.
    And for all you know, the R1 could be an all new kind of 1911 correcting all the downsides you claim the platform has.

  • Oswald Bastable

    Just happens to fill my hand up with the right amount of pistol and I shoot better with my 1911 than all my other service pistols.

    Tanfoglio custom 1911.

    Never missed a beat with whatever i put through it.

  • subase

    You can’t really advance the design of the 1911 cause people buy it for it’s history. Apart from revolvers, it is the only gun nowadays that is made out of steel and not an alloy.

    A polymer 1911 with double stack magazine is just not considered a a ‘proper’ 1911 by many people. A shame really.

    Also heads up for the Fail Zero hard lubricant coated 1911 frame, slide and trigger. Now that’s what I call a technology improvement.

    http://www.failzero.com/armory/1911-pistols.html

  • Todd

    I am curious as to where the parts are manufactured. Are all the internals MIM and sourced from offshore? I agree that RIA makes good pistols but I would like to see USA parts. I have nothing against MIM as long as QC is up to snuff. If they are MIM, at least they would be our MIM. Time will tell. The price-point looks good though. I suspect they will sell in the $600 OTD range and be in the vicinity of $530 dealer cost.

  • HK_USP_45

    I love the 1911, I think it is THE best handgun of all time (although the Beretta 92FS is still my favorite). It is still a great pistol that stacks up well against many modern guns. However, I’m a little sick of every month in every gun magazine, you see Kimber, Les Baer, etc releasing a “new” model of 1911 (i.e. the serrations on the grip go left to right instead of right to left, or the serrations on the front of the grip are .05mm deep as compared to the last model which was .045mm deep).

    Having said all of that, I’m really excited about the Remington R1. It’s exciting to see a classic American company releasing their first handgun in decades, and their first 1911 since WWI. It looks like a very nice pistol from the pictures, I’ll have to see up close once they hit the stores.

    Despite the inundation of 1911s on the market, there is a shortage of quality, fairly priced “GI/basic models”, so it’s nice to see Remington put one out. Although $699 is really pushing the envelope of what “fair priced” means. (I bought my Auto-Ordinance Thompson 1911 back in 1993 for $320 at the base exchange. The quality is not that great, though).

  • Vaarok

    Much like the AAC suppressor purchase, I think, given local rumblings with Seward, Arcuri, and from people working in the plant, that this is partially going to be a legal strongarm tactic to help knock back some of the NY state gun laws by saying “hey look, we need less laws to sell more stuff to generate more taxes, so help us out here.”

    Already the economic contributions from the State of New York are substantial, and using the state’s eagerness to create jobs to trick them into loosening laws, and consequently sell more product locally seems just the sort of thing Remington management would be doing from both a RKBA and dollars-and-cents viewpoint.

    Lord knows NY could use the economic boost, and with better 2a laws plus a return to strong manufacturing, it could be the first step in turning upstate around.

  • J

    Back in the Remington:

    It is 100% American made: parts and all. The trigger is crisp, and as described in the article. Although there is a small amount of movement in the slide to frame
    fit, it is very well done for a $699 1911. The loaded chamber indicator is a cut in the hood simliar to S&W and others. This means it won’t be acceptible in California in it’s current form.

    100% American made, good quality control, good trigger, $699 = winner!

  • Spiff

    The first commercial polymer frame pistol was the H & K VP70, introduced about 10 years before the Glock came on the market in 1980, and if I remember correctly, it had fewer parts the the more successful Glock 17.
    Spiff

  • Al T.

    “100% American made” – that is certainly NOT a fact. One industry source states that (like Springfield) that frame is made off shore and finished here. Time will tell.

  • Enfield476

    I like chocolate…

    Some people like vanilla…

    And there have been a shit load of people (mostly TRAINED police officers), accidentally shooting themselves with vanilla, because vanilla doesn’t come with all those nasty old pesky safeties.

    I have been a professional gunsmith for almost 40 years, and in my humble little opinion (see the tear on my cheek?), no matter how many sprinkles you put on vanilla…it still ain’t chocolate. Good old plain chocolate…

    OK, fire away, and I promise that I’ll die a fiery and gruesome death under the barrage of all that tepid vanilla…

    Oh, and my favorite chocolate was made in Hartford in 1964…works pretty good too. Shoots inside two cupcakes and a half twinkie at 50 yards. Yeah, the old eyes are getting older…it used to shoot inside a moon-pie, but that was many doughnuts and RC Colas ago…

    Oh, there’s nothing wrong with strawberry…strawberry’s good too…

    To The Logically Minded out there, I say; OO’RAH!

    To the vanilla eaters…try strawberry…

    …’cause strawberry sticks to kids…

  • Enfield476

    Oh, yeah, and one more thing, I only own one genuine chocolate, and another smaller chocolate (with Commander sized Spanish sprinkles…quite tasty, though, sadly, it was made 30 years ago…poor, poor, sad old antique that shoots inside a dinner plate at 50 yards…still haven’t gotten used to that meter thing…thought they were for quarters and parking, or something…oh, well). All my others are pizzas, round and each with six very large pepperonis (I’m easily entertained, watching things go round and round and round).

    I honestly and sincerely apologize to any whom have been offended, enraged or made to cry by this and my previous posting. To anyone else with the MOS of 11 Bravo, all I can say is; HU’AH! or OO’RAH!

  • Carl

    Nothing is 100% made in any one country, because such constraints would make the product very expensive or even impossible to produce.
    Here is Milton Friedman, explaining why:

  • RAGINRobert

    First off let me congratulate all of you on being the first blog site ever to have a conversation worth reading. Most of the junk on other blog sites has been such meaningless babble it is unreadable, and even offensive just to look at.

    Secondly let me admit that I am not well versed in firearms, but I do feel that the 1911 is still a very relevant handgun design especially when chambered in .45ACP. I base my opinion on my handgun usage. I have only had minimal defensive handgun training, am a concealed carry permit holder, and have lived almost my entire life in Idaho. The only predators I have ever encountered have been of the 4 legged variety. The safeties on a 1911 are very appealing when you know you are going to be sloggin through thick underbrush in bear, wolf, and mountain lion country all day. The .45ACP is appealing when considering a defensive cartridge for a 350 lb black bear. And finally the availability of 5″ barrel combined with a good trigger firing in single action aids in ones confidence when lobbing 230 grains of steaming hot justice at a coyote 100 plus yards away. (please note I do not claim to have actually hit this coyote, I just pushed a little lead his direction). I have tried to shoot long shots before with a Glock model 23, and found the double action trigger and smallish sights more than I could muster.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com Steve

      RAGINRobert, I am glad you like the blog. Please stick around.

  • Enfield476

    RAGINRobert, welcome!

    After a few years (so many, so long ago), I decided that if i needed a .44 magnum…I probably should have packed a rifle. I have carried an old Smith&Wesson Model 1917 or a Colt New Service for years, and both have served well as sidearms when dealing as last ditch weapons against the unseen problem or the wounded baddie.

    I also have an undying love for the venerable old .44 Special (owning three of them).

    Yes, my old wheel guns are the most reliable in the field (to include a Beretta Bisley and a Ruger Blackhawk, both in .45 Colt), but my Govt’ Model lives and sleeps under my pillow, every night, loaded and purring, like the sweet little kitty that sleeps every night at my right foot (odd habit, that…oh, and his name is Vinny).

    And then there’s the Llama Commander sized .45 blaster (1980′s production), that snuggles cozily in my car’s glove box.

    I still carry my pre-series 70 Colt’s Government Model from time to time (but only because she whines and sobs, getting all teary-eyed as she waves little white hankies from my front porch as I drive away).

    Talley so far:

    Colt New Service 1898, 1905, 1909 and 1917: four pistols, four variants= 2 pigs, 6 rabbits and twenty cases of empty Budweiser cans.

    Smith&Wesson Model 1917: three pistols, no variants= 1 rabbit (a really BIG rabbit!), several bunnies (yeah, my daughters cried), and twenty cases of empty Budweiser cans.

    My Smith&Wesson model 24 (Yeah, that pesky .44 Special), uh…:

    Some cans…OK, they were Coors cans…so they, uh…don’t count….

    As the Italians would say, this has all been a fugazzi (a fake), on my part. I have been a gunsmith for over thirty years, a hand-loader for forty years, and a shooter for almost fifty years. Thus, I can say this with absolute certainty…

    If you trust in anything, trust in this:

    Shoot him twice in the belly, even with a .22…and he’ll want to go home, lie down and take a nap…as he damned sure won’t want to fight anymore.

    I carry a .45 because I CAN…

  • mike

    dear carl (4/28/2010)
    I am a principal in Rohrbaugh Firearms.-Deer Park, NY Long Island. Yes that communistic country. I would like to categorically state that our product-raw material to finished and out the door is made/built ALL within the US.
    So, yes, there are companies that are out there that take pride and our patriotic to keep the job here- even though it means an increase in price- so things are worth paying for.

  • Ray

    I own different 1911′s Colt, Kimber, Wilson and others . I will buy the new remington R-1 1911. I have read the test results in Shooter’s mag. Great results right out of the box. I have already put two on backorder threw my dealer here ,looks like the middle of June before they start shipping them to dealers.

  • Daniel Wickham

    I think more competition will make for a better product. The 1911 has been made and remade many times over, usually resulting in a better variant while keeping the original flavor. I have had two colts that I wasn’t real happy with. Now I have a PT1911 Taurus that I am very pleased with so far. My first 1911 was a Remington so I’ll have to check it out. For any model to last his long, and still be gaining in popularity says a bunch. The new wave pistols are very nice-Glock-XD-etc. but I always compare them to the 1911, and they come up short—FOR ME– if someone else likes them better, fine with me.

  • Boris

    The 1911 design is sooooo popular because it is the last good (not great) pistol to be designed and originaly manufactured in the USA that is an autoloader.

    How many other pistols out there have been in longer production than the Beretta 92 design, USP, GLOCK and other European designs that are designed and made in the USA? S&W gives up on pistol models on an regular basis. Rugers are ok, but a new model is out every few years.

    The 1911 was the last successful pistol design to come out of the USA. THats why the 1911 is so popular, and it is sad!

    Instead of throwing a pistol design in a copy machine and turning out lesser quality material parts 1911, why dont these companies get a little creative and make something better than a 100 year old design to represent our great nation in the worlds pistol market. European companies probably see it as humorous that all we can do is cling to the one good pistol design we ever put forth.

    Pathetic!!

    That said, I would love to own a real Remington 1911 made from all steel. Lets face it, when it comes to all steel and guns, Remington does a hell of a job at it!!!!

  • Aurelien

    I remember Larry Vickers saying that the 1911 is a milestone in the autoloader world, setting the standard for everything else, and i would agree with that.
    That’s one reason why it is so popular.

    Another reason is that some people prefer single action steel-framed pistols to DAO, DA or safe-action pistols with a plastic frame. To each their own.

  • XDor1911

    people like the 1911 for the same reason people love XD’s and glocks. because theyre good, realiable, tough guns. to me the debate between polymer of metal frame is stupid, because its a matter of preferance. do i own an XD? yes. have i put over 100 rounds through a family members Glock 19? yes. do i like them both? yes. Do i also love metal framed 1911′s and shoot them/plan on buying one? yes. polymer framed guns arent “cheap plastic” and theres a reason that glock and springfield sell so many polymer framed guns. theyre lightweight and reliable. but the 1911 is an awesome piece of history, they look far better than either of the aforementioned polymer pistols, and theyre just a fun gun to shoot.

  • HK_USP_45

    Vickers was right, it WAS a milestone — 100 years ago. I think it’s the best handgun ever made, and it is still one of the tope designs. I think right now, though, there is better stuff on the market than the 1911.

    I would still love to have the Remington, though.

  • HK_USP_45

    Boris,

    You might have a point there. But I don’t think you’re entirely correct. It was a GREAT design, and I think you are glossing over the fact that almost all of the pistols that you mentioned are decedents of the 1911. The Glock being the least-related. But other than that, probably 80-90% of the world’s new handgun production are handguns that come from the 1911. Even the Gaston Glock took the handgrip angle from the 1911.

    I do agree with you though that a “great” handgun has come from the US in quite awhile. Nothing comes to mind. Not on the level of the 92 or Glock, or even the USP.

  • HK_USP_45

    XDor1911,

    Dude, that’s awesome. What a great point. As far as I’m concerned, I love all guns. meal, polymer, it doesn’t matter. They’re all pretty awesome, as long as they work.

  • Allen Shireman

    I have always been a fan of 1911. had my first one, Colt, USA. I will be getting one if these fine pice of Equipment.

  • http://none Allen Shireman

    I love this 1911. I have always loved a 1911. this one will be mine.

  • Pat

    gonna get me one- that is if Remington wants to bow down the the Republci of Kalifornia and actually pay the extortion fee to have it added to the “approved for sale” list.

  • JoeB

    Oh the ol Colt .45, we see ye again. Sure, there are going to be people hating the gun, others loving the gun, others, well they just prefer rifles (Hi there, how ya doing), but at least we call all agree on one thing.. at least the gun doesnt fire a shit round like the 5.7!!!!

    Haters, bring it on! For those who agree, your welcome.

    Have a nice day :)

  • Sukiari

    Quoth Laenhart

    “If the 1911 is too heavy, or too complex, you should seriously reconsider carrying a weapon at all – it might be too strenuous for you.”

    I love the 1911 as much as anybody else. I only have one, the New Agent, but it’s in the words of a buddy “The last gun you’ll ever need.” But your statement is a little overboard.

    You see, the 1911 has a little brother – the NAA Minimag. Even the New Agent, one of the very smallest 1911s around (about the same xyz as a Walther PPK/s, give or take a 1/2 inch or so here and there) is still a fairly large weapon. It is concealable in many circumstances, but sometimes it is just not feasible to carry around about two pounds of gun and ammo.

    For deep cover and concealment, a 1911 is not really going to work. It would be picked up with even a casual frisking (I have even occasionally banged the grip on crap and caused much noise as I carry at 4 o’clock) and is just too much gun upon occasion. Some folks also like the Walther TPH but I like the idea of having the magnum rimfire even out of a 2″ barrel.

    Going back to the earliest handguns, we can see that we have had very small handguns, normal sized handguns, and ones which are perhaps too big. I know women who are less than 5′ tall that carry. Would you propose the 1911?

  • Matt

    “The Future”? Its funny, I own the exact two pistols our military has used for the past 80 years. The 1911-A1 and the Beretta Model 92 FS. I went to the range with both and the Beretta failed me today. I have to send it back to the factory due to a broken firing pin. If anyone is wondering, there is less than 50 rounds through my Beretta, and over 2,000 through my 1911. I guess my “Tired old 1911″ still works over “The Future” of handguns. =)

  • HK_USP_45

    Matt, I think anyone would admit that was a fluke. Who has ever heard of a firing pin breaking after 50 rounds.

    I have fired thousands and thousands of rounds through various M9s, and don’t recall one failure. And I have probably dry fired them all close to 10,000 times.

    With my 1911, I get all kinds of failures to feed and stove pipes. And try to find a decent magazine that the bottom plate doesn’t break off after a hundred rounds. Unless you want to pay $30-50 for a mag — which I think is utterly ridiculous to pay that much money for a 7 round magazine for a gun that’s been around for a 100 years.

  • LDJ

    I am a 1911 guy (I own 4 Rock Islands) a friend of mine is a Glock guy (He has 4 of them). We swapped one day at the range. Next day he went out and bought 2 1911′s. I still don’t own any Glocks.

  • CC Coleman

    I own a custom 1911, CZ75, HK45c. I have owned an XD45 Service. I like all except the XD which was a jam-a-matic (otherwise I would have kept it). I like all for differant reasons. If more 1911′s come out maybe the prices won’t kept up with (gun)flation. Firearm prices seem to be the only thing climbing faster than the stock market is dropping. It is good that Remington is back in the pistol game. It means that someday they might get innovative and come out with a design of their own that rivals a Glock or an HK or a SIG. There is nothing wrong with the 1911. It does the job it was designed for both in the past and the future. If you want to cry about another 1911 – be this ages JMB and design the next pistol that will be around for the next 100 years. Not up to the task? Go buy a Glock from Gaston and stop trolling.

  • Ray

    I have enjoyed all the different comments on the new 1911 R1,also loved the pro and cons of different pistols. The 1911 to me is a proof it is still a state of the art weapon. So many have copyed it and modeled after it. Which brings me in saying one more thing. if it is not broke don’t fix it. The 1911′s will be here long after every thing else has gone. 1911 will and has always maintained its self on its own.

  • SIKNIS INC

    A HIPOWER MARK III IN .45 WOULD BE AWESOME !!!!!

  • Darwin

    “subaseon 25 Apr 2010 at 1:42 pm link comment
    And in the military a 1911 is just fake courage and morale support (very important), as is the pistol in general.
    Because the chance of a grunt ever using a pistol in combat is microscopic, and if you did have to use a pistol, a knife would probably be a better option”

    Bullshit. You have obviously never been a grunt in a built up area or other close confines.

  • Darwin

    “Carlon 28 Apr 2010 at 10:55 pm link comment
    Nothing is 100% made in any one country, because such constraints would make the product very expensive or even impossible to produce.
    Here is Milton Friedman, explaining why:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Gppi-O3a8

    Friedman is a shill for corporate america. Think for yourself.

  • Darwin

    I just bought one of these. Very good fit and finish. For the price I am impressed. Noticeably better fit and finish than the Springers at the same price range. Retail price is showing up at a little over $600 it seems.

  • AK™

    It shows that it’s good design,despite being almost 100 years later.

    The .45ACP has always been a fight stopper. JMB knew that and designed a ergonomic gun to fire it.

    A large majority of the autoloading pistols today use a Browning-type action.
    Glock,HK,et al.

  • Carl

    Friedman is a shill for corporate america. Think for yourself.

    Oh, but I do. The late, great Mr. Friedman just happens to be very good at explaining the mechanisms in the marketplace.

    If you had studied his work you would have known that he was totally against corporate welfare, bailouts, and special privileges for corporations.

    Was there anything in particular in that video that you disagree with?

  • Carl

    Dear Mike @ Rohrbaugh, do you have a detailed declaration of everything you use to build your products available, so customers can check if everything really is “100% American”?

    Apart from materials, are tools and machines included? How about the workers, are they also all “100% American”? If so, does that mean that immigrants are barred from employment in your company? How about people that are descended from immigrants?

    Just to be clear, I am not trying to imply that you are racists. I’m just trying to find out how far you take this concept of nationalism.

    Please note that I am probably not personally a potential customer, with the U.S. export regulations making it more or less impossible to import your firearms to Europe.

    My personal philosophy when buying guns, or anything really, is that the quality of the product, and the price, are by far the most important things. Where it is made is quite irrelevant. Nor am I interested in buying from a company that spends any part of the money I pay them, on nationalism.

    But I fully respect your right to run your company as you see fit.

  • Don EDmondson

    Igot my 1911r1 10 days ago fit and finish near perfect shots 3″ 25 yard gropes with laser cast 200 swc out the box pistol can do better the day I was at the range had a cross wind if you know Idaho you know the wind real happy and its AMERICAN made. thanks Don

  • TATER

    I just got a R1 and it shoots very good. The bushing is tighter than need be but helps it to be accurate. The barrel is very good and the ramp is also better than some others I have. I like the sights and will shoot this one more than some other 1911′s I own. It will also be a carry pistol. Don’t really see how this 1911 can be criticized. And hope Remington goes all the way with it’s 1911 program. The 45acp is an old round but it is fun to shoot and very accurate if you reload and still gets the job done without all the drama that some other calibers require. Very glad I added this 1911 to my collection of 45 autos.

  • Dan

    im a boltgun nut(preferably of the hyper velocity ilk)just something about 6~7″ groups at 500 yrds that makes my boat float.hell if i get lucky i`ll do 4.5″>>>but then im not much of a shot….anyways ive owned glocks,sigs,1911`s,and several other pistols nice shooters.But im a wheelgun freak,,nothin like a m66 or a m29…colts python is pretty smooth as is wessons six shooters.Point being as a few in here have stated its all about preference and doability…and if you carry all day…better have common sense&good leather.Yall be good see ya,,,BTW FOR SOME REAL FUN..get out to Knob Creek sometime helluva machine gun shoot

  • Army Chief

    K..Took my new Remington R1 for its first test run at the range today. Was a disaster right out of the box.Weapon would fire the first round chambered but failed on the second shot. After the first round either the trigger or some safety system would not allow the hammer to fall.”Felt bound up”..once I did get the hammer to fall on the second round but failed to engage the firing pin??????.So its on its way back to Remington..Will say the 5 rounds I did manage to fire I was able to cut center target on all 5 at 15 yards. Guess I’m just gonna have to trust Remington to make this right. I will post later on the outcome….unhappy :(

  • Army Chief

    Also.. on the debate over 1911′s vs glocks and other “plastic” guns there is no debate. The 1911 was designed to end enemy lives where as pretty much every other weapon since has been designed to to be ergo and a range shooter. You know theres more fighting features to the 1911 other than a round coming out the end of the barrel. The lanyard loop is an effective man stopper when used as a club. Hit someone in the head with a glock and sure it will hurt…let me whack you with the lanyard loop on a 1911 and you wont get up.So in conclusion what I’m trying to say is the 1911 is a fighting mans weapon and pretty much all others are designed for RANGE cowboys. And thats why the weapon remains as popular today as 90 years ago its the best and most universal at what it was designed for.

  • Don EDmondson

    Before you send it back thease pistol don’t like long swc ammo try different
    ammo first mine did the same till used shorter col loads both swc and jhp
    Don

  • TATER

    I just came home from another trip to my shooting range and have shot the best group ever with this R1. I really like the way this pistol shoots! I took my S70 Colt, Springfield Mil-Spec, Taurus and R1 and the R1 was the one I could shoot best. The Taurus is a good target pistol but the R1 was more accurate for me. There is something about the R1, it feels different and shoots. I have found WST powder and 230gr. Montana Gold FMJ bullets to be able to produce one hole groups with no problem at 15 yards off-hand. The 1911 just fits my hand the best. And all 1911′s feel a little different to me. I don’t really like the double stack frames and triggers on most other pistols. I like single action 44 Specials best, but for self-defense I’ll stick with one of my 1911 style pistols. They conceal better for me in the summertime. Don’t leave home without one. IMO.

  • Army Chief

    I was shooting winchester fmj? Was this problem ammo for you as well Don?

  • Don EDmondson

    Chief remove the barrel take a live round drop in the barrel push on it with your thumb hard remove it and look at the slug base near the top of the case can you see marks that look like rifle lands if so try different ammo Don

  • Army Chief

    K… Got the preliminary report from Remington today. Apparently it was a miss installation of the springs associated with the firing pin.After looking at the exploded view of the weapon I can only find one and it looks to me to be rather difficult to miss install so maybe thier more talking springs in the trigger mechanism.Anyway should have it back this thursday or friday.Will give it a test run and let everyone know the outcome>

  • Army Chief

    We have a problem Houston……Someone not naming names forgot to ship my weapon back to me in a prompt manner.With the purchase of your new 1911 r1 you get a service plan promising a 7 day turn around.Well just got confirmation from ups that it wont arrive until the 6th of july :( Was suppose to be leaving for a 2 week stint of trout fishing in the morning but I guess thats now out the window cause I have to be here to sign for it. I look in my gun safe and I see a 308 woodsman,7mm mag 700 BDL,1100 shotgun, and 2 870′s and say to myself this just isn’t right. First the weapon fails straight out of the box then they dink around with shipping and cost me at least a week of my trip. I’m beginning to think I should have bought a Norinco piece of crud at least with that i could fire more than one shot at a time. Sorry Army Chief on the War Path!!! LOL

  • HK_USP_45

    Army Chief, I would have demanded a new one or a refund. When I buy something new, I want something new, not something “worked on.” I bought a $5000 lawn mower and when I got it they had damaged it in transporting it to my house. “Oh, we can have someone out here Monday to fix it.” Wrong. I bought a new one. I don’t want a “fixed one.” If I damaged it once it’s in my hands, that’s on me. Until it’s in my hands, it’s on them. Same if it’s defective.

  • Army Chief

    Remington is a JOKE!!!!!! Anyone considering buying this weapon might want to consider ponying up the extra 200 bucks and just buy a Springfield…Got the weapon back today and within 30 seconds of handling the gun I found that the Grip safety is somehow been bypassed and provides no protection at all. Not even going to take it to the range to see if the original problem has been resolved. What gets me is a tech handled this gun worked on this gun and didn’t notice that one of the main features of the weapon had been altered by his work. “Take another HIT dude” :( So..I told them send a new weapon or cash no other option at this point would be acceptable. Of course I have to wait for another shipping label and however much time Remington deems they need to resolve this.Like I said what a JOKE!!!!

  • BRAD

    I usually dont read forums, and most of you are the reason why. For starters i own 1911′s, glocks, cz’s, xd’s, and several sig’s and find that all of them have their strong/weak points. The purpose of this forum is to discuss pro/cons about the new R1. What i cant figure out is why anti-1911 people are reading 1911 forums… If you hate the pistol sooo much, why read every new thing about it that comes out. What drives you to rain on someone elses parade. I understand the 1911 group is not your scene, so stay the f out of it. I looked up forums to see what experiences people have had with the new r1, instead i spend an hour wadeing through the bs to find the few posts that actually have anything to do with the function/ reliability of the weapon. As i said i own glocks, a 19 and 30. They are great guns and reliable, i also like them the least of my pistols bcuz they do not feel right in my hand. my favorite pistol is the sig p226. my favorite range pistol is a cz75b sa. My point is, stick with whats comfortable to you, but stop acting like an asshole when some1 else likes what you dont. Arrogance is not a virtue

  • HK_USP_45

    Brad,

    You should learn the difference between a forum and a blog. This is not a 1911 forum. This is called a blog. A blog is where an amateur editorialist, or “blogger,” editorializes, or “blogs” about something that is of interest to his or her self. Then readers are asked to give their opinion on both the subject, and on the blogger’s opinion of the subject. Since people subscribe to blogs, through feeds, they get notification of all of the subjects that are posted. So therefore on a blog, you will get a lot of different people from different knowledge sets giving their opinion.

    If you don’t like blogs, then maybe you should stay off of them, and stick to the forums, which is where all the like-minded fanboys of the forum’s topic will be at.

  • Chris

    I am looking forward to seeing one. I think it is great. Thank you Remington!!!!

  • Maineac

    Good reading here. I am, however more interested in the details of the weapon than I am the opinions. I appreciate a good debate, but sometimes those with opinions become quite intoxicated by the exhuberance of their verbosity. I’ll just wait until the weapon hits a store near me. Solidarity Mates

  • Ray

    Still waiting on the R1s to hit in my area. Seems remington shipped out R1 to some of the bigger wholesalers. Still waiting for the two i have on back order threw my dealer here in Tx. I have enjoyed all the comments except for few really out there. I am sure like any production firearm there are going tobe a few lemons. I am sure Remington will work them out, may not be the way we would like. Had a Colt like that a few years back ,took a year to solve the problem. Sent it back 4 times.

  • tater

    I have over 500 rounds through my R1 now and 4.7 grs. of WST with a 230 Montana Gold FMJ is my bullet of choice. Next with the same bullet is 5.3 grs. of H.P. 38. Both of these shoot one hole groups to point of aim. Is does not get any better for me. If you reload, you might give these a try, hope Remington makes a single action in 44 Special too!

  • Edward J. Palumbo

    I’ve accumulated an assortment of Remington rifles over the past 45 years and I’ve had very few disappointments. I’m pleased to see them tackle the .45ACP in a Model 1911A1 frame, but this is a new offering and my concern is that it has been redesigned by lawyers. Until I examine the trigger mechanism and other features…until I get a better insight into which parts are MIM (metal injection molded) or how much lateral play there may be in the slide, I’ll stick to my Kimber Custom II.
    I should add, there will always be room in my safe (or on my belt) for another good .45 ACP.

  • Edward J. Palumbo

    Perhaps Remington should have taken a more innovative approach and offered a “longslide” version – an extended slide and 6-inch barrel – because I think they’ve entered a very competitive arena with established players.

  • Ray

    Hello to all that have posted comments on the 1911 R1, still waiting on mine toget here. But i would like to ask all of you for a little help in finding a extra clip for my Colt Sauer 30-06 Rifle. I have look every were for one have come up sort on finding one. If you have one are know of someone that does would you mind letting me know.
    Thank you
    Ray Johnson, Brownwood Tx.

  • tater

    Here is my last up-date on my R1. I chronographed some loads and used my Springfield Mil-spec as a base gun. 4.7grs. of WST with a 230gr. Montana Gold FMJ bullet. Mil-spec was 769 fps average for 5 shots and the R1 was 799 FPS. 5.7 grs. of H.P. 38, Mil-spec was 806 fps. and the R1 was 833 average for 5 shots. I tested 5 other loads and it was the same story with the R1 giving better velocities. I had one jam with the R1 using a max load with a 200gr. XTP. It says in the owners manual not to use +P ammo and I have had jams when using max loads with XTP bullets. It seems the chamber is at the minimum specs, tight. This R1 is very accurate and set up more like a Gold Cup than a Mil-spec pistol in spite of it’s appearance. I have also found that 5.7 grs. of HP 38 duplicates the Winchester factory load with a 230gr. fmj, white box, at 833 fps. But the HP load is much more accurate and shoots very good. Also 6.6grs. of Auto Comp for 841 fps in my R1. The Mil-spec was only 807 fps with the Auto Comp. But the Mil-spec will handle +P ammo all day long with no problems and is very accurate too. I hope some of you have found my input helpful in reference to the new R1.

  • Edward J. Palumbo

    Tater,
    Thank you for sharing that information. I’ve been working my way through Unique and Bullseye and have yet to reach for the HP 38!
    Good shoting,
    Ed

  • Brad V.

    @Maineac

    well said

    +1

  • happyhunter42

    As to this date I have owned 6 semi-auto pistols. My first was a Mk2 Ruger, the next was a S&W model 59, then came the Norinco Mod.313 tokarev, I just had to have a RI 1911, I found a little Star Pony .380 impoted by Interarms, and lastly I aquired a Walther P22. What do these guns have in common. They are all firearms. It don’t matter to me what they shoot as long as when I pick them up they shoot where I’m aiming. Oh and by the way my favorite pistol would have to be a toss up between my Blackhawk and my Colt Official Police.

  • happyhunter42

    I guess I should have said, buy what you like, shoot what you got, and to hell with the rest

  • Rey Caramiello

    Have one. Trouble with it feeding! Can’t get the slide to assemble since I fired it!!! Sending it back for evaluation and repair. Hope Remmington is not having quality problems like in the 70′s

  • Rey Caramiello

    Well I received my R1 back from Remmington in record time. Get this. The packing slip sent back with the R1 actually says “ It appears the gun was dry fired by the owner with the slide off ” can you believe this crap. Why the hell would anyone do that, especially someone who has three other 1911’s, ALL COLTS. Never a problem, out of the box or EVER!!!! I will be taking it to the range tomorrow and will report on its performance. Tell you the truth I don’t expect much!! Forget the marketing crap and stay with COLT!!!! Now thats a real peice of history!!

  • Edward J. Palumbo

    Mr. Caramiello,
    Did they come up with ny functional, mechanical reason for the problem (e.g., broken sear/hammer, etc.)? That presupposition is disappointing.

  • Rey Caramiello

    No technical data was given. I understand a manufacturer would be reluctant to release any negative tech data on a newly released product, for marketing and possible liability reasons. I also understand that things can happen even with the best of quality control systems. I just resent the unprofessional statement. Just fix it and send it back, the less said the better. I want to say a heat treat problem but that’s not my call.

  • Army Chief

    K. I’m going to risk Remington reading this because I have a complete refund on the way. If you read above youll see the problem with the first weapon.”Catch that? –First–.” Just a quick recap, 1st Weapon would fire pick up a new round go into full battery and not fire.Which I guess would be ok if you were looking for a single shot.Sent 1st weapon back and for awhile nobody knew where the weapon was???? Finally get it back and within 15 seconds of the first function test the grip safety failed! “completely guys”.So I contacted remington again and informed them that I bought a new weapon and not a worked on one so it was either an entirely new weapon or a refund. Remington to there credit was more than helpful when it reached this stage just to let you all know.Anyway I opted for a “New’ weapon.”Such a slick lookin Weapon I had to try again :)” OOPS! ..Mistake! Again a function test was preformed “this being the new weapon” And grip safety failed again :( . Called Remington back and got it setup to return the weapon for a refund.. Seriously BUMMED!!! BUT!!!!…. Ive allready been to my local gun dealer and picked up a beautiful Colt Gold Cup. Figured I owed it to myself for all the hassle of the R1. :):):):)

  • Rey Caramiello

    Tried out the repaired R1. 100 rounds of Remington 230 Gr. One stovepipe with rapid and slow fire. Stovepipe was with slow fire. Accuracy from new hasn’t changed, very disappointing. This is subjective, just comparing it to my Gold Cup and Super. All things being equal there should not be such a significant difference.
    Army Chief, best thing you can do for yourself. Had my Gold Cup since the 70’s best thing I ever did.

  • kansas

    Got a new R1 haven’t shot it yet and will not shoot it.
    Disassemled it to clean it, very crude.
    Is Remington R1 the new name for Norinco (Chinese junk)

  • Vincent Moretti

    I purchased the new 1911 R 1 i have put over a 1000 rounds threw the gun , the sites are great, the gun well built, i am extremely happy with this gun, i paid 629. with tax, I have shot IDPA with it many times,.. the gun is a great buy.. Vincent Moretti

  • Vincent Moretti

    Problems people have ,. i read a few of the comments, i bought the 1911 R 1 cause it was very much like the gun made so many years ago with so much history,.. some one wrote “Crude ” when they said they took it apart , i have question with a statement like that ,.. the gun was supposed to mirror the original, what did this person expect. Stove piping can happen for many reasons since i reload i can tell you , my malfunctions happened cause a load may be to light,. i am very happy with the quality of this gun,.. i see no issues to harp on.. Vincent Moretti

  • Rey Caramiello

    Wartime demands are different then peacetime. There is no excuse for poor quality today. Today’s materials and machinery are superior then back then. By the way Colt has offered WW1 and WW2 models. I’m sure they did not go out of their way to manufacture an inferior weapon. Then there are the questions of assembly and components that people have been referring to. A Remington product having problems with Remington ammo…..hmmmmm

  • Skinewmexico

    Face it, some people would buy a turd if it said Remington on the side, and blow their breath in the face of everyone they met, claiming it was the greatest turd they had ever eatern.

    Every time I see JMB brought up, I always remember how he thought the thumb safety was stupid. And how proud he was of the Hi-power, where he got to fix what he considered the flaws of the 1911.

  • charles222

    To anyone else with the MOS of 11 Bravo, all I can say is; HU’AH! or OO’RAH!

    You must mean HOOAH. Not sure where you got those bizarre spelling standards.

  • Ray

    My R-1 is one of the best 1911 i own . Went to the range last Saturday. Put my first 550 rd thru it. Not one problem ,great grouping. Nothing fancy about the R-1 just a fine weapon. I own Colts,Kimbers S&W 1911.I put it right up there with them. I also own two Glocks and XD’s and XDM’s. But the 1911 is by my Bed.

  • Rey

    Ray. That’s the kind of write up I was hoping to give. Time will tell.

  • Anthony Rivers

    Exmilitary,save your money buy a Colt Match grade-series 70 or 80.Then compare to plastic guns. 1 inch groups-factory target.If your to “weak”to
    handle-then mayby you should buy a plastic gun.

  • woody36

    all u gun buffs out there, listen up
    I just bought the new remington 1911r1 and love it I also have a glock 19. S&w mp 9mm and several others
    it’s the best shooter i own I do a lot of shooting and do all of my reloading 45;s 380′s and 9mm
    I have had issues with the new 1911 jamming on me i’m going to try a hotter load and see if that corrects it
    so far i’ve been using 185 grn hp from midway with winchester primers and bulls eye powder 4.1 grns of powder
    I don’t know if my oal is off or what but some help is needed here if anyone has any idea’s
    i love my 1911 and can’t say one bad thing about it except for the jams and i’m sure its my own doings

  • woody36

    i really like the new remington 11911r1 best shooting gun I own

    still getting a few jams with my reloads It seems like it doesn’t like h.p. midway 185 grn bullets

  • http://firearmsblog harry whitley

    Yes I like proven designs made from steel and not plastic (except for the stocks or grips of course) The first 45 I ever qualified with was a WWII Remington Rand. I later owned a Colt and I will be buying the new Remington even though they were forced by economics to make it saleable in the people’s republic of calimexico. Our best hope to fix califmexico is the San Andreas fault.

    Every Remington I have owned or own has been extremely well made and very robust. I presently own a 700 in 7mm rem mag, an 11-87 and an old model 11 with US ordinance bombs stamped into the side of the 30″ barrell (No it isn’t for sale) Remington has also made other handguns including the old XP 100. I am amazed by the number of people that prefer plastic guns and M-16 type jamamatics that have the gall to slam JMB’s work. Yes the design has lived for a long long time. Betcha Glocks won’t be being produced another 100 years from now. Old designs like John Garand’s still have a place in today’s warfighting (The M-14 and even the old M-1 can reach way out and kill the enemy better than the amped up 22 centerfires that are passing as assault rifles these days. The m-16 I had in basic combat training jammed on the range during a rain shower at Ft Polk La. Never saw or heard of an m14 or old M-1 being such a panty waist. The Koreans want to give us back a big bunch of M1′s that the current administration doesn’t want returned because some of them (shudder shake) might wind up in civilian hands. The troops in Afghanistan really need something with reach and reliability and the M-4 ain’t getting it done. also more seasoned soldiers have reported that the m-9 9mm is lacking when compared to the 45 ACP. The Russians started transitioning back to the7.62 x 39 and more importantly the 7.62 x 54r in afghanistan because they found out that their 22 wasn’t much at long range and dusty conditions than ours are. Their Tokarev pistol was a combloc copy of the 1911 design in several different calibers and many of those old Tokarevs are still in use and highly prized by the Ruskies that are issued them.

    I have to state here that the m-16 was given us by the same brain trust that left guns off of our main air superiority fighter of the time the old F-4 thinking that 4-6 missles were adequate for a dogfight. They had to change that thinking when old MiG 17′sbegan shooting down f-4′s on a fairly regular basis. The Navy also created “Top Gun” because of that fiasco.

    Sometimes accepting “new” technology just because it’s new and sexy really is not the smart way to go. I will be getting a new R1 1911 for around 600 dollars ( no I am not going to tell you where) but I would pay more because it is a REMINGTON. To me Remington does not look like ass. There are many politicians in both major parties that look like asses to me. Sorry if I got a little bit political but the mere mention of the peoples republic of calimexico walks on the fighting side of me.

    Alpha Mike Foxtrot

  • larry

    To Enfield476,

  • larry

    I love your logic, and ill stick to chocolate… vanilla is ok here and there but seems too bland for my taste.

  • larry

    Oh and just for the sake of doing this i typed and posted this on a debate on a wilson combat 1911 and figured since we ARE talking about 1911s here it may be relevent enough. True and True, but if you know what to look for in quality and like the “design” meaning all the cosmetics then thats fine. I personally own a RIA base model 1911 and its ok for the $500 i spent but if i had the money i would have had a custom build with tighter tolerances, match trigger job, match grade hammer, and a lighter titanium firing pin for faster lockup for a clean follow up shot as well as night sights, but the basic model will do its job… and i dont have that much cash to throw around either. So all in all its up to the end user, what feels comfortable to him/her, and what they are willing to fork out for it. Price isnt always quality, BUT quality comes with price. Just gotta know whats actually gone into it to know if its worth it.

  • Ray

    My last post was not exceped i guess for something i said,so i have read all the problems that you have been haveing with the new R1s. Me and my wife have now aquired three of them ,two we have shot over a thousands rbs thur. We have not even had a stove pipe yet. I do stop and clean them after about two hundred rounds or so. I have fired ball ammo to hollow points. Ours seem to eat anything we have put threw them so far. Remington has contracted these pistols out to have made. Remington just puts thier name on them. Like most companies are doing these days they out sorce the products. All in all the R1s are a good copy of the 1911 but they are not a race gun. For right now all is fine with ours, time will tell that . We will have to wait and see what happens.

  • Tom
  • Range master

    I own a 1911 R-1. I also carry a Glock 22. As a Police firearms instructor I much prefer the Remington to the Glock. Accuracy is spot on with the 1911 and the weapon performs flawlessly. The factory trigger is much lighter than my Glock with the 5 pound trigger bar and it breaks like glass with no creep. I carry the Glock on-duty because it is the department issued weapon. I have never felt un-armed or out gunned with the Glock but when I get home the Glock comes off and the R-1 goes on my side as an off duty weapon. (we are required by policy to carry off-duty) While a .40 is a formidable caliber, the .45 is a legendary man stopper. I am very confident in my 1911 Remington R-1. After 33 years as a Police Officer and 12 of those as a certified firearms instructor, I would recommend the 1911 R-1 to anyone wanting a quality firearm.

  • Shotgun

    For whats is worth if you have not yet purchased an R-1. Think twice. Now, I am not a famous gun guru or anything close but I have been a Sheriff’s department firearms instructor and amromer for Colt, Glock, Remington, Sig and H&K since 1991. I am not bragging just trying to add credibility to my communication.
    I purchased my R-1 two weeks ago. It shoots 3 inches low at 30 feet. Numerous 230 grain round nose factory ammo without change. I called Remington, no sight hight variations available. No problem, I thought. I called Novac and spoke to two experts there. The first one was the gunsmith who indicated there wasn’t much internally that could be done to change the point of impact without considerable expense. I then spoke to the sight guy who informed me he just had one in his shop a couple of days ago and he indicated that the dovetails were NOT Novak dovetails and due to the size of the cuts in the R-1 the only thing he could do would be to weld the slots and recut them, of course this would require a slide reblue and money. I called Remington again to inquire as to who makes their sights, I was not answered but told the cuts were standard Novak cuts. I told the Remington rep what Novak had said. The rep put me on hold to check with someone els and again I was told they were standard Novak cuts. OK here is my point, I have been around for a few years and have a modest financial base for my hobbie. If I decise to sell this gun because I cannot fix the unacceptable point of impact, it’s no big deal “it aint nothin but a thing”. I can turn this into a bad memory real quick. But, not everyone can do this so if you are one of those persons who works hard, married , kids, ect and maybe, if your lucky you can put a few bucks back for a gun now and then and you have been dreaming of ownig an R-1 think twice. Is it worth the gamble or should you consider a gun manufacturer that officers a little more diversity in parts availability. I mean common man, not being able to correct a minor thing like point of impact with different sights. Think very carefully my friend. I can thinnk of a time in my life where this type of thing would have been a great deal of dissapointment. Just a thought, Stay safe…

  • Aurelien

    Shotgun,

    The rear sight of the R-1 is a GI-cut, not a Novak-cut. You can source GI-cut rear sights from a variety of manufacturers like Novak, Maryland Gun Works, 10-8…

    Hope this helps.

  • shotgun

    Aurelien, I will check out the site you suggested. Do you by any chance know what the front dovetail cut is? Thanks for the help. I must admit once I fix the extensive creep in the trigger and change the point of impact with different sights I really like the gun. In the past I would have sold the gun by now but this one I like well enough to fix. Thanks again.

  • Mike W

    Seconding Shotgun.
    I bought an R1 a while ago and have nothing but problems. The sight cut issue, which multiple calls to Remington got me nothing but attitude. I was told all my Novak dovetail parts were out of spec. I emailed them and offered to send them the sights and the slide-At my cost- to see if my slide were an error that slipped past QC. They refused to even answer my offer, sending me a form email saying that the issue was closed and thanks for being a customer-something I will never be for Remington firearms ever again.
    I am not new to owning 1911s and have more than a few from different manufacturers. I know there are no true drop in 1911 parts. However, every part I tried to replace on the R1 (with Wilson Combat and several other well known manufactured parts) did not work without extensive fitting-and then some parts just didn’t work. Before fitting I tested these in several of my other 1911s and they literally just dropped in. It is almost as if the R1 is hilariously just a smidge out of spec.
    Result is me advising against anyone buying the R1. You can get a better 1911 in the same price range from a good manufacturer with good customer service.

  • Army Chief

    My Gold Cup PRRRRRs BUY COLT!!!

  • Ray

    I have three new R1s ,have not had one problem with any of them.I have read the bad comments and i just have not seen any of these in mine. I have not tried changing parts on them. But i am old school. if its not broke why try to fix it. The R1 is no Goldcup, but on the other hand it can not be compared to that. I have two goldcups and they do start jamming after several rounds thur them. Built to tight. I carry a Kimber custom it is a fine weapon. The R1 can not be compared to it either. The R1 is what it is ,mine are fine.If you have one that is giving you troubles ,then get rid of it. I dont think every one out there are bad. You can get a bad one in anything. Guns,cars, trucks,people,ect.
    with respect, Ray

  • tater

    I have to agree with Ray. I also have a few 1911′s and my R1 has been very good. Very accurate, with my handloads, that’s all i shoot in any of my 1911′s. I had a Taurus that went back to the factory twice and still jammed and was very rough. I got rid of that and was glad to see it go. I will say that for my money, the Springfield Mil-spec model is my favorite 1911, even more so than my Colts. But that’s just the way it is. I can say nothing bad about my R1 except the goofy sight cuts. Why they had to be different, is beyond me. But as far as function, no problems with the right ammo.

  • Ray

    I may can explain somethings as i see it, Remington has not built a hand gun in 92 years. In saying that, Remington themselves did not build the R1. It was outsourced. Remington ask this company to build the R1 to the military 1911 they built for Colt during WWII .The R1 is that clone other than the barrel and bushing and sights. The 1911 back then was not cut for novak sights. Remington kept the old style cut from back in the day. This may have bin planned or a oversight,either way it is a Remington it does stand out because it is different. Most 1911s made today or supposed tobe milspec,but some are not. Smith&Wesson is one Sw1911Sc,The R1 is off of the pistol of years past. This does not make it wrong just different from the norm of today. I myself am not crazy about the three dot sights on the R1 ,i wish they would have put plain iron sights on it . But thats just me.
    With Respect, Ray

  • Army Chief

    lets see…I physically opened myself up scraping it across an exsposed thigh..Wont shoot straight… Propriatary parts …And cruddy Customer Service…HMMMM….BUY COLT!!!

  • Army Chief

    Did I Mention…Buy COLT!!

  • shotgun

    Thanks for the mental picture Army Chief, “scraping it across an exposed thigh”…HMMMM….LOL. I do however tend to agree with you on Colt purchases. Stay safe.

  • Ray

    Colt 1911s are great, i have four of them, I agree with a colt purchase. My wife and i were at the range this weekend ,we fired about three to four hundred rounds thru our R1′s still no problems.Sorry some of you are having the problems with yours. I am not, with respect there are bad apples in anything. I do believe the service at remington will help you, thats what they are there for. But you can catch more flies with suger than you can with crap. But that is just me.

  • http://www.predatorwild.com Heath

    Are they out there yet?

  • Richard

    I bought the R1 last week. I got about 250 rnds through it so far (indoors). I love it. Feels good looks good and at 650$ you cant beat it. I’m gonna put 300 or so through it today outside. Thumbs up so far.

  • preston

    Ive compared the rem. 1911 with the browning valor and the kimber .45 acp crimson carry and though the 1911 is a great gun the .45 just has a better edge on handling. The valor is best with looks but is a little exaggerated. I prefer the .45 for life

  • preston

    by .45 I mean the acp crimson carry. Cant beat it.

  • preston

    regardless of who built it ray, remington has the rights to the gun and point being that the new remington 1911 is still basically the same performance as any other 1911. Talk to friends and see the performance of others handguns, kimber, browining, glock, ect… Try to stay away from small caliber brownings.

  • harry whitley

    Dealer says r-1′s are unavailable for the time being. So Being in the mood to buy another gun (usually am in that mood) I bought (don’t laugh here) a brand new 1911 clone by Iver Johnson yeah Iver Johnson. Gun shoots great with all ammo I’ve tested including flying ashtrays like the 230 gr. HP.

    Shoots softball sized groups at 25 yds and that is plenty good enough for any combat handgun Er excuse me Defensive handgun. I’ve got it riding in a Fobus pancake holster and I like the way it sits and feels. I still may get a Remington version when the become more readily available. Am really glad that I happened into the Iver Johnson and it may well become my everyday handgun so alls well that ends well. Maybe Remington shouldn’t have presold their 1911 clone so hard and thereby turn off many potential buyers

  • Army Chief

    HAH!!!!! Went to the range this morning and guess what I saw????? 2 stalls down is a gentleman shooting a new R1.Because of all the problems I have had I just took my time loading Mags to watch. And it was bang bang for about 5 shots. Couldnt see well but I think it was a stove pipe by the way he cleared the weapon.By then I was walking down to his lane in time to see him load a fresh mag and drop the slide. So once again it was bang bang and on 2nd shot he gets a feed jam.So while hes dinkin with his current jam I asked him what he thought of his new R1,First words out of his mouth were “Would you like to buy it?”Dont think he knew how to take it when I just stated laughing.I told him I had prior experience with this weapon and if he was still around when I was done shooting I would fill him in.I was able to return mine for a refund from remington but I think by now that option has gone by the way side for most.He asked me what he should do and told him to try the refund and if that wasnt an option take it to the gun dealer and take the “hit” and either get into a springfield or Colt if he just absolutely had to stay 1911

    • Shooter

      It’s time to pack it up and mosey on over to another site. I’m just a lil’ tired of reading the same thing over and over again. Get a life! I just sent my Colt Gold Cup in to Springfield Custom to get it to shooting right. And my Remington R1 Enhanced is just doing fine, thank you.

  • Ray

    You know, i donot understand why you run this weapon down. I do understand what you are saying, and i am sure there are some out there that does not perform to the standard with most.I own three and the two we shoot has been fired more than 1500 rds or more with not one malfunction. I also would like to say i have more problems with my Gold cup Colt than any other 1911 i own. I have 14 different 1911s. It does not mater witch 1911 a person owns. You can get a bad one in any brand.
    With Respect Ray

  • shotgun

    OK, here’s the poop. I filed down the front sight approximately .030 which was even with the top of the white dot. No problem here as when I use the dot it is a different style of shooting than traditional front / rear sight alignment shooting. This brought the point of impact up approximately 2 inches at 30 feet or so and just right for me. The top of the sight blued up nicely with cold blueing. secondly I changed out the sear with a factory Colt sear. I was extremely suprised as I did not have to refit or rework the thumb safety or the grip safety. This was a sear I had worked on and had in another gun. The sear corrected the several step, seemingly never ending creep of the factory sear. I left it at approximately 7 pounds with just a smidgeon of creep at then onset of the pull. I may adjust it a little more in the future however at this point since it will be a carry gun I do not want to go too light as under stress, it wouldn’t matter if the trigger pull was 20 pounds, one would never notice it when shooting to save ones life and it works well as it is without full auto problems. As for other after market parts fit problems I do not know. I do know the sear fit well. After about 50 rounds I noticed the slide to frame fit is a little looser so I question how hard the metal is but for what I have into it it’s OK. It is what it is, but when I add up the time and aggrivation I have into this gun I will not purchase another. I will not say I would sell this one but I would not rule out a possible future trading stock status if that perverbial MUST HAVE gun comes along. Now that all is said and done and all is well with the gun, if I were looking for a new 1911 I would have to say I would opt for a different manufacturer.
    One thing I check prior to purchasing a 1911 is the slide stop. I looked at two different R1′s prior to purchasing this one where I was able to push the slide stop out without having to line up the take down notch in the slide on one of them and the other was so close to this point that this would happen with very minor wear. I do this check with the magazine out and the slide forward. I have personally observed slide stop levers walking out under fire on our department range on 3 seperate occasions so this is something I check for prior to purchasing.
    I hope this comment will help others who are considering a 1911 purchase and realize that any gun manufacturer can produce a gun that has issues that need to be addressed. I have had Wilson, Colt, Springfield, Smith and Wesson, STI and Sig 1911′s but this R-1 is the one that I have had the most, shall we say inconveniences with. I will say that the STI is every bit as good of a shooter as the Wilson for half the price. I was really impressed and as you have probably guessed it takes a lot to impress me. Oh my gosh, I just realized I think I am turning into a gun snob..LOL no taurus’ in my inventory yet….I am going to work on that though. Stay safe people.

  • Richard

    I guess I’ve been lucky so far. I put 700rnds through it yesterday. Mostly factory loads. My partner brought 1 box (50) of hand loads. We had 1 jam or miss feed with that box. I’m not a pro just a guy that like to shoot. I dont know if its important to mention or not but all of that without a cleaning. Thats a little over 1000 rnds in all since the purchase. Tonight will be the 1st time the gun will be cleaned. So far so good.:-)

  • HK_USP_45

    Reading about stove piping makes me think there could be some limp wristing going on.

  • preston

    I agree with ray, with every brand there are alot of 1911′s that suck. so far i havent had any trouble with the kimber acp crimson carry. im dying to try the new compact kimber ultra carry

  • shotgun

    I in no way had any intention to indicate the R-1 sucked. I guess to sum it up the R-1 is nice enough for the price. If nice is good enough for you then so be it, however if you seek a little more refinement in a 1911, spend more money.

  • Ray

    Well said Shotgun, again well done

  • HK_USP_45

    JMB would be rolling over in his grave, to hear people speak of the 1911 and “refinement” in the same sentence. Next thing we’ll be talking about sipping tea with white gloves and pinkies raised.

    Wow, what have we become. Refinement and the 1911. And here I thought it was a war horse.

  • Ray

    Even a Warhorse has Class. JMB also was a man of vision and Class.
    With Respect

  • HK_USP_45

    Difference between class and “refinement.” JMB was a simple man, not really that into refinement. To each his own, I don’t care how people spend their money and buy their guns. And I of course have never met JMB, since he died before my grandparents were born, and I can’t read his mind, only guess at what he would think. But I think he envisioned the 1911 as a HumVee, not a Mercedes.

    I wonder what he would say if he knew companies were charging $3000-5000 for his pistol (adjusting for inflation, obviously in his day charging $200 for his pistol would have been outrageous). Maybe the entrepreneur in him would think it great, I don’t know.

  • hotrod

    HK_USP_45,
    I do not understand the personal attack. I said nothing to offend anyone. Why are you making negitive comment about ones chosen word? When one lowers and relieves an ejection port, tunes an extractor, lightens or modifies a sear to eleiminate creep, fits a match grade barrell or tightens slide to frame fit, which by the way are proven methods to increased accuracy and reliability of the 1911 and is standard maufacturing steps for high line 45′s. I think most people would not take issue with calling these modifications “REFINEMENTS”.
    As far as the sipping tea with white gloves on and pinkies raised, I have personally taken away the freedom of persons that wish they had been sipping tea instead of drinking alcohol and driving. They are now having refreshments with other inmates. Have you ever had to serve notification to the parents of a teenager that has been killed by a drunk driver? I have, I wish to heaven that driver would have been sipping tea instead. Sometimes refinement can be a good thing.
    I may not use the same words as you do to relay a communication but that doesn’t mean I said it wrong, just different. Please allow me the freedom to be different than you without ridicule. Thanks Much.

  • shotgun

    Collins dictionary 2009
    re-fine-ment
    1-the act of refining or being refined
    2-a fine or delicate point, distinction, or expression; a subtlety
    3-fineness or precision of thought, expression, manners, ect; polish or cultivation
    4-a device, change, adaptation, ect., designed to improve performance or increase efficiency.

    HK_USP_45, I respectfully call your attention to number 4.
    Personally I think it is proper and acceptable to place “refinement” and 1911 in the same sentance.

  • HK_USP_45

    Hotrod, unless you’re running 2 different usernames, I don’t see where I made any comments about you (“I said nothing to offend anyone.”) Also, I respect your service as LE, and that’s a tough situation to be in. But what in the heck does that have to do with the discussion of refinement in a 1911? Or did you just have to throw that out there? I don’t even understand what that has to do with anything.

    Shotgun, I apologize if I came off as personally attacking you, that wasn’t my intent. My intent was to show the ridiculousness, IMO, of what the 1911 culture has become. Because many have taken it to the point in which they’re just flat out snobs. Your comment, maybe you meant it as #4, but the way you worded it, it could have easily been construed as one of the first 3. “If you seek a little more refinement in a 1911.” Just sounds snobby. That’s what I cannot stand. The snobs that have infiltrated our sports. I see it in knives — “Oh, I pay $700 for my pocket knife, every other knife sucks.” In guns — “My 1911 costs $3500 and it’s a custom for the shop of so and so, every other gun sucks.” In hunting — “Oh, if you don’t shoot this years top of the line bow, and where $1000 camo, and take a 10 pointer, you suck.”

    It just gets tiresome. I have no problem with people that spend big money on things they love, because I’m one of them. I love nice things as much as the next man. But this whole thing, “if you buy anything other than what I deem as the best, then you and your (insert item) suck.”

    As I said, this is not an attack on your PERSONALLY, but this is frustration at that type of mentality, which is what you conveyed in your statement.

  • RickB

    I purchased my new Remington R1 in October 2010. I have put a little over 2,000 rounds through it. I have fired several different types of ammunition through it including, PMC Bronze, Winchester, Remington, Blazer and a bunch of re-loads some guy gave me at the range. Not one, and I mean not ONE miss-fire, jam or stove pipe. It is more accurate than i am, and I can “bulls-eye” a standard target at 10 yards, and even a few at 25 yards. Yes, it only holds 8 shots, but trust me, I can hit a man size target with all eight. That ought to do it as far as protection goes. I have a buddy who goes with me to the range sometimes, he has a nice Glock 40. Great gun, but it does jam now and then. I’ll keep my old 45 ACP on my nightstand. Buy one, you’ll like it.

  • DocJohnson

    Nice looking gun but Im not liking the one I just bought.It dont have anyway to adjust the sites and mine shoots awful.I think if your going to pay this much money for a gun you might as well add a little more and get a Kimber.

  • mike black

    AS A RETIRED AVIATION ORDNANCEMAN; I HAD THE PLEASURE OF TEACHING THE 1911A1 MODEL; .45 TO MILITARY STUDENTS THAT REQUIRED A SIDE ARM THAT WOULD DELIVER THE GOODS WHEN CALLED UPON TO DO SO. OF 4 YEAR’S TEACHING THIS WEAPON; I NEVER HAVE HAD ANY MALFUNCTIONS WITH THIS WEAPON; ONE HANG FIRE. ANYHOW I BELIEVE THIS NEW 1911 IS WELL WORTH THE $$$$$; AND I’D PURCHASE ONE; MAYBE (2). KEEP E COMING!

  • RIckB

    Hi Everybody,

    This is an update to my last post on here. Now I’m at 3,000 rounds through the R1. I tried some different ammo again, Magtech, and American Eagle (Federal). After about 100 rounds of the American Eagle cartridges, I had a jam. It was the last bullet in the magazine and it stuck. I had to remove the magazine, but the bullet back in and then it chambered and fired. I guess there is a first time for everything. Once I got the R1 home, I gave it a good cleaning (as I always do) and this time took apart the magazines and cleaned them as well. I’ve put several hundred more rounds of the Magtech and some Remington ammo through it since then, with no problem. But in all fairness, it did jam now, so I can’t say it is flawless. Still though, a truly good handgun and well worth the money they cost. I figure 1 out of 3,000 is pretty good odds.

  • http://yahoo.com mike black

    My girlfriend owns a o/u .45 cal./410 derringer. I believe it uses .45 long colt; and 2 1/2 inch .410 rds. It looks like it has left hand rifieling about 1/3 the way from the muzzel. What is the accuracy on a 25 yd. indoor range; and how much of a recoil would this weapon deliver using this weapon. The .410 ds. are double ott buck. I believe Remington makes this weapon!
    Regards Cordite;
    Mike

  • kevin hoffman

    Single action? weren’t 1911′s semi auto to begin with? is that a mis-print?

  • http://lokijp.com Carl Puryear

    I am a very long time watcher and I just thought I’d stop by and say hello there for the first time. I really like your posts. Cheers

  • Ethan hernandez

    haha i love reading 1911 blogs. you get everything from idiots who have never shot a 1911 but are “experts” on it, to the people who actually have a clue. when i started reading this i was hoping to get some insight into the new reminton but not much content on that lol the platform is proven to be adequate in all situations and if nothing else is one of the finest peices of engineering ever done on american soil, not to mention a work of art. and guess what i carry a glock ;) just my two shekels

  • http://www.nowebsite.01 Lizzette Mcratt

    I was just looking for this information for a while. After six hours of continuous Googleing, at last I got it in your site. I wonder what’s the lack of Google strategy that don’t rank this type of informative sites in top of the list. Usually the top websites are full of garbage.

  • http://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com Hunting Gear

    Very cool gun. This will be a fun one to take out and shoot. I know what I will be asking for Christmas this year. Loved reading all the comments of people who have experience shooting this gun. Thanks!

  • brad67

    what are the diffrents between this one and the on made by desert eagle the price is diffrent but is th quility of the gun the same? And the preformance

  • jeff

    After looking at many, many 1911′s at every price range imaginable I decided to buy the R1 Talo… No regrets. Hits where I aim, made in USA
    nicely built, sturdy, clean, sights are better than the military version but do not change it’s feel as a military weapon (in my view). I am blue collar working man so every penny has to be well spent and felt this gun gave me the most bang for the buck. MAny cheaper in everyway, and many more in everyway.. but this was a nice middle of the road gun and stays true to the ID of a 1911. I see the critics and everyone has a right to say what they think. But I love my R! 1911 Talo!!!! Thanks Remington

    • http://firearmblog. vincent

      I’m on your side with this. My R1 is way better then i’ll ever be. for now!!

      • S. Creekwalker

        I bought a R1 Talo last week, put it through the paces yesterday. Fired 50 rounds of 230 grain lead cast. NO feed problems, NO failure to fire issues, NO jams. 16 shots in a 6 inch circle at 20 yards. I couldn’t be happier. I think all three of my sons need one of these Remington 1911 R1′s.

  • JBreck

    Can anyone tell me where I can get a disassembly/assembly procedure or schematic for the R1.

  • Richard

    I made a “goof” and purchased a new Remington 1911 pistol. The goof is due to one thing. I had mistakenly assumed that the Remington pistol would accept other 1911 style magazines. It will NOT! I tried both a Kimber 8 round and a Colt 7 round magazine, and had problems with BOTH!!!

    It did work OK with the two magazines it came with, but not with others. This flaw makes it impossible to just throw in with my 6 Colt and 2 Kimbers I would have to keep the Remington separate.

    This is not a tack driver. It is a close range defense type weapon. As such, I am of the opinion that it should function with ALL standard 45 ACP magazines, which it does not.

    The one other thing is the terrible ceramic type grips. If I keep the pistol, they will be replaced with appropriate grips.

    Richard

    • realmccoy

      Hi richard I just purchased a remington 1911 r1 and the three original clips from my grand fathers army issiue colt 1911 slide rite in and run ammo with no problems you may want to have the gun or clips checked

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    All new Remington 1911 R1 pistol is a different of the 1911A1 design. Remington has included flat and lowered ejection section, beveled magazine well, fully magazines has high profile dovetailed single-dot front and two-dot rear sights. Remington’s parent company, has now finally entered the handgun market.

  • Andrew Jackson

    I was very impressed with the handgun out of the box especially at the price. In 40 years of shooting handguns and a past member of the British and Olympic squad I was appalled at the poor trigger, ( it crept beyond belief).
    I work for a major hunting and sporting goods supplier across the US and this pistol will not receive the slightest recommendation from me to our customers, quite the opposite. Remington, shame on your quality control, it is non existent and how you expect to enter a market with flaws in the product such as this is beyond my comprehension.

  • MILL

    To anybody who has not red this blog. It is the same people saying the same thing over and over. I looked at the R1 yesterday and was just looking to see if I should go back and buy it. All I got from this website was a bunch people repeating themselves. If I were you I’d read about this gun somewhere else.

  • onewhoknows

    Too bad the slides come from korea.

    • http://www.facebook.com/nataliemariesharp Natalie Sharp

      Which Korea? South Korea or Best Korea?

  • shotgun

    to onewhoknows, KOREA? Prove it!

  • shotgun

    Dear onewhoknows,
    I refer you to Shooting Illistrated Magazine article of Feb 9th, 2011 by Sheriff Jim Wilson (RSS). In conversation with Carlos Martinez (Remington R-1 Project Manager) the following paragraph states:

    Martinez went on to say the R1 is being made at Remington’s Ilion, NY, plant. Currently, frames and slides are being made in-house, while the barrel and other parts are outsourced.

    I don’t know where you are getting your information, you didn’t say, but always remember some persons are so full of HOT AIR their BUTT SUCKS WIND….

    • onewhoknows

      I have seen boxes of them at the plant. They come from korea and get machined and finished there.

  • http://firearmsblog William

    Just saw and handled my first R1 the other day, and was fairly well impressed, although not as favorably as I had hoped. Haven’t shot it, or talked to anyone who has, but it seems like a pretty good gun for the money. The quality of the gun was good, although again, not what I had hoped for, and not as good as others I’ve seen. The safety was gritty, and had I field stripped it I suspect I would have found tool marks inside. Also, and this is my worst criticism of the gun, not having fired it, the trigger had a lot of creep, and was slightly heavy. Did not break cleanly, and that is not good. Overall I think they start with a good product, which needs quite a bit of finishing off to make it the real bargain that it’s being touted as. If you qualify it by price range, then yes it is a good value for the money. Beats a Norinco any day, but expected more from Remington. Haven’t ruled it out yet, until I have seen and examined the Sig 1911, and the new Ruger. Maybe I’ll just stick with my old Colt.

  • Ron

    Hey woody 36,

    I have about 7 different 1911 pistols. On the remington R1 the factory spring (recoil) is a bit light install a 18lb spring and the jams should stop and it will go into battery easier

  • Joe St. Louis MO

    I have a Colt MKIV Series 70 I have owned since April 1977 that I am comparing my recent July 2012 Remingtin R1 acquisition to. The Remington functions much more smoothly. The three dot sights are a welcome improvement. Makes for much tighter grouping at the range. All mags that worked in the Colt, work as well in the Remington. I am glad I got the Remiington and prefer it, while keeping the Colt for old time’s sake and an occasional work out.

  • troop

    Bought a new Remington R1- Never fired a round through it, and its off to the factory for repair or replacement. fractured frame rail WTH??? New gun and here I am sending it in for repair…Get with the program REMINGTON!

  • deebar

    Had a 1911 in Nam but in private life never wanted a pistol until this last year . Bought two , an SR40 I wouldn’t trade for anything and the R1 .
    The R1 has been fired about 250 times , no issues what-so-ever , none , nada .
    Having shot for Federal years back and handling and shooting some of the best guns money can buy this 1911 is good for one thing , protecting myself and others near me . It will do it in spades . If you want to spend more money then do it , but if utility and fail safe is the desired result then buy the R1 . It’s not a Kimber but then you could buy 2 of these for less than what one costs . Finish is better than marginal but when a bullet’s
    coming your way you’re not going to notice , trust me .

  • Bruner

    I have owned the 1911 R1 Enhanced for 3 months now and have zero problems with it. I don’t know where most of you are getting your problems from? You have to use the mags it came with. You also have to use a little bit of oil, just in case you forgot about oil. Beyond popular belief, you need it. The Remington 1911 R1 Enhanced is a Great handgun, I can 4″ x 6″ target at 25′ all day long and hit a ten inch steel plate at 50′. I don’t know what else you want from a hand gun that’s any better than that! Happy Shooting!!

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  • Jocav

    Got the Remington 1911 R1 Stainless for Christmas today. Have only put 100 rounds thru it so far but no problems. Shoots great. Looks great, man I got a good wife.

  • Mike91

    Is it normal for m1911 r1 safety handle to have wear and tear on top form cocking back the hammer? Because the hammer touches the top when cock it with my thump.