New Remington 1911 R1
In November last year rumors started circulating that Remington would introduce a 1911 pistol. The Remington 1911 R1 has finally been officially announced.
Back in 1917, at the height of WWI, the U.S. Ordnance Department ordered Remington-UMC1 to produce 500,000 1911 pistols. By the time the Armistice was signed on November 11, 1918 Remington had produced 21,677 1911s. 91 years later Remington is once again producing John M. Browning's famous design.
The new Remington 1911 R1 pistol is a variant of the 1911A1 design. Remington has added a flared and lowered ejection port, beveled magazine well, loaded chamber indicator, high profile dovetailed single-dot front and two-dot rear sights, a crisp 3.5-5 lbs trigger and a match grade stainless steel barrel with barrel bushing.
The pistols will be manufactured at the Remington factory in Ilion, New York. Remington plans on shipping the pistols in June.
| Specifications | |
|---|---|
| Action | Single Action |
| Caliber | .45 ACP |
| Magazine Capacity | 7 rounds |
| Barrel Length | 5" |
| Barrel Material | Stainless Steel |
| Barrel Finish | Satin Black Oxide |
| Rifling Twist Rate | 1:16 LH |
| Overall Length | 8.5" |
| Overall Height | 5.5" |
| Grip Material | Walnut |
| Grip Design | Checkered (Double Diamond) |
| Trigger Pull | 3.5 - 5 lbs |
| Average Weight | 38.5 oz |
| MSRP (Price) | $699 |
The Freedom Group, Remington's parent company, has now finally entered the handgun market. I would not be surprised to see a concealed carry pistol come forth from Remington or another Freedom Group company with the next year.
J got his hands on the new pistol ...
It is 100% American made: parts and all. The trigger is crisp, and as described in the article. Although there is a small amount of movement in the slide to frame fit, it is very well done for a $699 1911. The loaded chamber indicator is a cut in the hood simliar to S&W and others. This means it won't be acceptible in California in it's current form.
100% American made, good quality control, good trigger, $699 = winner!
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Not to be confused with Remington Rand who produced 1911s during WWII. Rand is a different company. ↩
After looking at many, many 1911′s at every price range imaginable I decided to buy the R1 Talo… No regrets. Hits where I aim, made in USA
nicely built, sturdy, clean, sights are better than the military version but do not change it’s feel as a military weapon (in my view). I am blue collar working man so every penny has to be well spent and felt this gun gave me the most bang for the buck. MAny cheaper in everyway, and many more in everyway.. but this was a nice middle of the road gun and stays true to the ID of a 1911. I see the critics and everyone has a right to say what they think. But I love my R! 1911 Talo!!!! Thanks Remington
what are the diffrents between this one and the on made by desert eagle the price is diffrent but is th quility of the gun the same? And the preformance
Very cool gun. This will be a fun one to take out and shoot. I know what I will be asking for Christmas this year. Loved reading all the comments of people who have experience shooting this gun. Thanks!
I was just looking for this information for a while. After six hours of continuous Googleing, at last I got it in your site. I wonder what’s the lack of Google strategy that don’t rank this type of informative sites in top of the list. Usually the top websites are full of garbage.
haha i love reading 1911 blogs. you get everything from idiots who have never shot a 1911 but are “experts” on it, to the people who actually have a clue. when i started reading this i was hoping to get some insight into the new reminton but not much content on that lol the platform is proven to be adequate in all situations and if nothing else is one of the finest peices of engineering ever done on american soil, not to mention a work of art. and guess what i carry a glock
just my two shekels
I am a very long time watcher and I just thought I’d stop by and say hello there for the first time. I really like your posts. Cheers
Single action? weren’t 1911′s semi auto to begin with? is that a mis-print?
My girlfriend owns a o/u .45 cal./410 derringer. I believe it uses .45 long colt; and 2 1/2 inch .410 rds. It looks like it has left hand rifieling about 1/3 the way from the muzzel. What is the accuracy on a 25 yd. indoor range; and how much of a recoil would this weapon deliver using this weapon. The .410 ds. are double ott buck. I believe Remington makes this weapon!
Regards Cordite;
Mike
Hi Everybody,
This is an update to my last post on here. Now I’m at 3,000 rounds through the R1. I tried some different ammo again, Magtech, and American Eagle (Federal). After about 100 rounds of the American Eagle cartridges, I had a jam. It was the last bullet in the magazine and it stuck. I had to remove the magazine, but the bullet back in and then it chambered and fired. I guess there is a first time for everything. Once I got the R1 home, I gave it a good cleaning (as I always do) and this time took apart the magazines and cleaned them as well. I’ve put several hundred more rounds of the Magtech and some Remington ammo through it since then, with no problem. But in all fairness, it did jam now, so I can’t say it is flawless. Still though, a truly good handgun and well worth the money they cost. I figure 1 out of 3,000 is pretty good odds.
AS A RETIRED AVIATION ORDNANCEMAN; I HAD THE PLEASURE OF TEACHING THE 1911A1 MODEL; .45 TO MILITARY STUDENTS THAT REQUIRED A SIDE ARM THAT WOULD DELIVER THE GOODS WHEN CALLED UPON TO DO SO. OF 4 YEAR’S TEACHING THIS WEAPON; I NEVER HAVE HAD ANY MALFUNCTIONS WITH THIS WEAPON; ONE HANG FIRE. ANYHOW I BELIEVE THIS NEW 1911 IS WELL WORTH THE $$$$$; AND I’D PURCHASE ONE; MAYBE (2). KEEP E COMING!
Nice looking gun but Im not liking the one I just bought.It dont have anyway to adjust the sites and mine shoots awful.I think if your going to pay this much money for a gun you might as well add a little more and get a Kimber.
I purchased my new Remington R1 in October 2010. I have put a little over 2,000 rounds through it. I have fired several different types of ammunition through it including, PMC Bronze, Winchester, Remington, Blazer and a bunch of re-loads some guy gave me at the range. Not one, and I mean not ONE miss-fire, jam or stove pipe. It is more accurate than i am, and I can “bulls-eye” a standard target at 10 yards, and even a few at 25 yards. Yes, it only holds 8 shots, but trust me, I can hit a man size target with all eight. That ought to do it as far as protection goes. I have a buddy who goes with me to the range sometimes, he has a nice Glock 40. Great gun, but it does jam now and then. I’ll keep my old 45 ACP on my nightstand. Buy one, you’ll like it.
Hotrod, unless you’re running 2 different usernames, I don’t see where I made any comments about you (“I said nothing to offend anyone.”) Also, I respect your service as LE, and that’s a tough situation to be in. But what in the heck does that have to do with the discussion of refinement in a 1911? Or did you just have to throw that out there? I don’t even understand what that has to do with anything.
Shotgun, I apologize if I came off as personally attacking you, that wasn’t my intent. My intent was to show the ridiculousness, IMO, of what the 1911 culture has become. Because many have taken it to the point in which they’re just flat out snobs. Your comment, maybe you meant it as #4, but the way you worded it, it could have easily been construed as one of the first 3. “If you seek a little more refinement in a 1911.” Just sounds snobby. That’s what I cannot stand. The snobs that have infiltrated our sports. I see it in knives — “Oh, I pay $700 for my pocket knife, every other knife sucks.” In guns — “My 1911 costs $3500 and it’s a custom for the shop of so and so, every other gun sucks.” In hunting — “Oh, if you don’t shoot this years top of the line bow, and where $1000 camo, and take a 10 pointer, you suck.”
It just gets tiresome. I have no problem with people that spend big money on things they love, because I’m one of them. I love nice things as much as the next man. But this whole thing, “if you buy anything other than what I deem as the best, then you and your (insert item) suck.”
As I said, this is not an attack on your PERSONALLY, but this is frustration at that type of mentality, which is what you conveyed in your statement.
Collins dictionary 2009
re-fine-ment
1-the act of refining or being refined
2-a fine or delicate point, distinction, or expression; a subtlety
3-fineness or precision of thought, expression, manners, ect; polish or cultivation
4-a device, change, adaptation, ect., designed to improve performance or increase efficiency.
HK_USP_45, I respectfully call your attention to number 4.
Personally I think it is proper and acceptable to place “refinement” and 1911 in the same sentance.
HK_USP_45,
I do not understand the personal attack. I said nothing to offend anyone. Why are you making negitive comment about ones chosen word? When one lowers and relieves an ejection port, tunes an extractor, lightens or modifies a sear to eleiminate creep, fits a match grade barrell or tightens slide to frame fit, which by the way are proven methods to increased accuracy and reliability of the 1911 and is standard maufacturing steps for high line 45′s. I think most people would not take issue with calling these modifications “REFINEMENTS”.
As far as the sipping tea with white gloves on and pinkies raised, I have personally taken away the freedom of persons that wish they had been sipping tea instead of drinking alcohol and driving. They are now having refreshments with other inmates. Have you ever had to serve notification to the parents of a teenager that has been killed by a drunk driver? I have, I wish to heaven that driver would have been sipping tea instead. Sometimes refinement can be a good thing.
I may not use the same words as you do to relay a communication but that doesn’t mean I said it wrong, just different. Please allow me the freedom to be different than you without ridicule. Thanks Much.
Difference between class and “refinement.” JMB was a simple man, not really that into refinement. To each his own, I don’t care how people spend their money and buy their guns. And I of course have never met JMB, since he died before my grandparents were born, and I can’t read his mind, only guess at what he would think. But I think he envisioned the 1911 as a HumVee, not a Mercedes.
I wonder what he would say if he knew companies were charging $3000-5000 for his pistol (adjusting for inflation, obviously in his day charging $200 for his pistol would have been outrageous). Maybe the entrepreneur in him would think it great, I don’t know.
Even a Warhorse has Class. JMB also was a man of vision and Class.
With Respect
JMB would be rolling over in his grave, to hear people speak of the 1911 and “refinement” in the same sentence. Next thing we’ll be talking about sipping tea with white gloves and pinkies raised.
Wow, what have we become. Refinement and the 1911. And here I thought it was a war horse.
Well said Shotgun, again well done
I in no way had any intention to indicate the R-1 sucked. I guess to sum it up the R-1 is nice enough for the price. If nice is good enough for you then so be it, however if you seek a little more refinement in a 1911, spend more money.
I agree with ray, with every brand there are alot of 1911′s that suck. so far i havent had any trouble with the kimber acp crimson carry. im dying to try the new compact kimber ultra carry
Reading about stove piping makes me think there could be some limp wristing going on.
I guess I’ve been lucky so far. I put 700rnds through it yesterday. Mostly factory loads. My partner brought 1 box (50) of hand loads. We had 1 jam or miss feed with that box. I’m not a pro just a guy that like to shoot. I dont know if its important to mention or not but all of that without a cleaning. Thats a little over 1000 rnds in all since the purchase. Tonight will be the 1st time the gun will be cleaned. So far so good.:-)
OK, here’s the poop. I filed down the front sight approximately .030 which was even with the top of the white dot. No problem here as when I use the dot it is a different style of shooting than traditional front / rear sight alignment shooting. This brought the point of impact up approximately 2 inches at 30 feet or so and just right for me. The top of the sight blued up nicely with cold blueing. secondly I changed out the sear with a factory Colt sear. I was extremely suprised as I did not have to refit or rework the thumb safety or the grip safety. This was a sear I had worked on and had in another gun. The sear corrected the several step, seemingly never ending creep of the factory sear. I left it at approximately 7 pounds with just a smidgeon of creep at then onset of the pull. I may adjust it a little more in the future however at this point since it will be a carry gun I do not want to go too light as under stress, it wouldn’t matter if the trigger pull was 20 pounds, one would never notice it when shooting to save ones life and it works well as it is without full auto problems. As for other after market parts fit problems I do not know. I do know the sear fit well. After about 50 rounds I noticed the slide to frame fit is a little looser so I question how hard the metal is but for what I have into it it’s OK. It is what it is, but when I add up the time and aggrivation I have into this gun I will not purchase another. I will not say I would sell this one but I would not rule out a possible future trading stock status if that perverbial MUST HAVE gun comes along. Now that all is said and done and all is well with the gun, if I were looking for a new 1911 I would have to say I would opt for a different manufacturer.
One thing I check prior to purchasing a 1911 is the slide stop. I looked at two different R1′s prior to purchasing this one where I was able to push the slide stop out without having to line up the take down notch in the slide on one of them and the other was so close to this point that this would happen with very minor wear. I do this check with the magazine out and the slide forward. I have personally observed slide stop levers walking out under fire on our department range on 3 seperate occasions so this is something I check for prior to purchasing.
I hope this comment will help others who are considering a 1911 purchase and realize that any gun manufacturer can produce a gun that has issues that need to be addressed. I have had Wilson, Colt, Springfield, Smith and Wesson, STI and Sig 1911′s but this R-1 is the one that I have had the most, shall we say inconveniences with. I will say that the STI is every bit as good of a shooter as the Wilson for half the price. I was really impressed and as you have probably guessed it takes a lot to impress me. Oh my gosh, I just realized I think I am turning into a gun snob..LOL no taurus’ in my inventory yet….I am going to work on that though. Stay safe people.
You know, i donot understand why you run this weapon down. I do understand what you are saying, and i am sure there are some out there that does not perform to the standard with most.I own three and the two we shoot has been fired more than 1500 rds or more with not one malfunction. I also would like to say i have more problems with my Gold cup Colt than any other 1911 i own. I have 14 different 1911s. It does not mater witch 1911 a person owns. You can get a bad one in any brand.
With Respect Ray
HAH!!!!! Went to the range this morning and guess what I saw????? 2 stalls down is a gentleman shooting a new R1.Because of all the problems I have had I just took my time loading Mags to watch. And it was bang bang for about 5 shots. Couldnt see well but I think it was a stove pipe by the way he cleared the weapon.By then I was walking down to his lane in time to see him load a fresh mag and drop the slide. So once again it was bang bang and on 2nd shot he gets a feed jam.So while hes dinkin with his current jam I asked him what he thought of his new R1,First words out of his mouth were “Would you like to buy it?”Dont think he knew how to take it when I just stated laughing.I told him I had prior experience with this weapon and if he was still around when I was done shooting I would fill him in.I was able to return mine for a refund from remington but I think by now that option has gone by the way side for most.He asked me what he should do and told him to try the refund and if that wasnt an option take it to the gun dealer and take the “hit” and either get into a springfield or Colt if he just absolutely had to stay 1911
Dealer says r-1′s are unavailable for the time being. So Being in the mood to buy another gun (usually am in that mood) I bought (don’t laugh here) a brand new 1911 clone by Iver Johnson yeah Iver Johnson. Gun shoots great with all ammo I’ve tested including flying ashtrays like the 230 gr. HP.
Shoots softball sized groups at 25 yds and that is plenty good enough for any combat handgun Er excuse me Defensive handgun. I’ve got it riding in a Fobus pancake holster and I like the way it sits and feels. I still may get a Remington version when the become more readily available. Am really glad that I happened into the Iver Johnson and it may well become my everyday handgun so alls well that ends well. Maybe Remington shouldn’t have presold their 1911 clone so hard and thereby turn off many potential buyers
regardless of who built it ray, remington has the rights to the gun and point being that the new remington 1911 is still basically the same performance as any other 1911. Talk to friends and see the performance of others handguns, kimber, browining, glock, ect… Try to stay away from small caliber brownings.
by .45 I mean the acp crimson carry. Cant beat it.
Ive compared the rem. 1911 with the browning valor and the kimber .45 acp crimson carry and though the 1911 is a great gun the .45 just has a better edge on handling. The valor is best with looks but is a little exaggerated. I prefer the .45 for life
I bought the R1 last week. I got about 250 rnds through it so far (indoors). I love it. Feels good looks good and at 650$ you cant beat it. I’m gonna put 300 or so through it today outside. Thumbs up so far.
Are they out there yet?
Colt 1911s are great, i have four of them, I agree with a colt purchase. My wife and i were at the range this weekend ,we fired about three to four hundred rounds thru our R1′s still no problems.Sorry some of you are having the problems with yours. I am not, with respect there are bad apples in anything. I do believe the service at remington will help you, thats what they are there for. But you can catch more flies with suger than you can with crap. But that is just me.
Thanks for the mental picture Army Chief, “scraping it across an exposed thigh”…HMMMM….LOL. I do however tend to agree with you on Colt purchases. Stay safe.
Did I Mention…Buy COLT!!
lets see…I physically opened myself up scraping it across an exsposed thigh..Wont shoot straight… Propriatary parts …And cruddy Customer Service…HMMMM….BUY COLT!!!
I may can explain somethings as i see it, Remington has not built a hand gun in 92 years. In saying that, Remington themselves did not build the R1. It was outsourced. Remington ask this company to build the R1 to the military 1911 they built for Colt during WWII .The R1 is that clone other than the barrel and bushing and sights. The 1911 back then was not cut for novak sights. Remington kept the old style cut from back in the day. This may have bin planned or a oversight,either way it is a Remington it does stand out because it is different. Most 1911s made today or supposed tobe milspec,but some are not. Smith&Wesson is one Sw1911Sc,The R1 is off of the pistol of years past. This does not make it wrong just different from the norm of today. I myself am not crazy about the three dot sights on the R1 ,i wish they would have put plain iron sights on it . But thats just me.
With Respect, Ray
I have to agree with Ray. I also have a few 1911′s and my R1 has been very good. Very accurate, with my handloads, that’s all i shoot in any of my 1911′s. I had a Taurus that went back to the factory twice and still jammed and was very rough. I got rid of that and was glad to see it go. I will say that for my money, the Springfield Mil-spec model is my favorite 1911, even more so than my Colts. But that’s just the way it is. I can say nothing bad about my R1 except the goofy sight cuts. Why they had to be different, is beyond me. But as far as function, no problems with the right ammo.
I have three new R1s ,have not had one problem with any of them.I have read the bad comments and i just have not seen any of these in mine. I have not tried changing parts on them. But i am old school. if its not broke why try to fix it. The R1 is no Goldcup, but on the other hand it can not be compared to that. I have two goldcups and they do start jamming after several rounds thur them. Built to tight. I carry a Kimber custom it is a fine weapon. The R1 can not be compared to it either. The R1 is what it is ,mine are fine.If you have one that is giving you troubles ,then get rid of it. I dont think every one out there are bad. You can get a bad one in anything. Guns,cars, trucks,people,ect.
with respect, Ray
My Gold Cup PRRRRRs BUY COLT!!!
Seconding Shotgun.
I bought an R1 a while ago and have nothing but problems. The sight cut issue, which multiple calls to Remington got me nothing but attitude. I was told all my Novak dovetail parts were out of spec. I emailed them and offered to send them the sights and the slide-At my cost- to see if my slide were an error that slipped past QC. They refused to even answer my offer, sending me a form email saying that the issue was closed and thanks for being a customer-something I will never be for Remington firearms ever again.
I am not new to owning 1911s and have more than a few from different manufacturers. I know there are no true drop in 1911 parts. However, every part I tried to replace on the R1 (with Wilson Combat and several other well known manufactured parts) did not work without extensive fitting-and then some parts just didn’t work. Before fitting I tested these in several of my other 1911s and they literally just dropped in. It is almost as if the R1 is hilariously just a smidge out of spec.
Result is me advising against anyone buying the R1. You can get a better 1911 in the same price range from a good manufacturer with good customer service.
Aurelien, I will check out the site you suggested. Do you by any chance know what the front dovetail cut is? Thanks for the help. I must admit once I fix the extensive creep in the trigger and change the point of impact with different sights I really like the gun. In the past I would have sold the gun by now but this one I like well enough to fix. Thanks again.
Shotgun,
The rear sight of the R-1 is a GI-cut, not a Novak-cut. You can source GI-cut rear sights from a variety of manufacturers like Novak, Maryland Gun Works, 10-8…
Hope this helps.
For whats is worth if you have not yet purchased an R-1. Think twice. Now, I am not a famous gun guru or anything close but I have been a Sheriff’s department firearms instructor and amromer for Colt, Glock, Remington, Sig and H&K since 1991. I am not bragging just trying to add credibility to my communication.
I purchased my R-1 two weeks ago. It shoots 3 inches low at 30 feet. Numerous 230 grain round nose factory ammo without change. I called Remington, no sight hight variations available. No problem, I thought. I called Novac and spoke to two experts there. The first one was the gunsmith who indicated there wasn’t much internally that could be done to change the point of impact without considerable expense. I then spoke to the sight guy who informed me he just had one in his shop a couple of days ago and he indicated that the dovetails were NOT Novak dovetails and due to the size of the cuts in the R-1 the only thing he could do would be to weld the slots and recut them, of course this would require a slide reblue and money. I called Remington again to inquire as to who makes their sights, I was not answered but told the cuts were standard Novak cuts. I told the Remington rep what Novak had said. The rep put me on hold to check with someone els and again I was told they were standard Novak cuts. OK here is my point, I have been around for a few years and have a modest financial base for my hobbie. If I decise to sell this gun because I cannot fix the unacceptable point of impact, it’s no big deal “it aint nothin but a thing”. I can turn this into a bad memory real quick. But, not everyone can do this so if you are one of those persons who works hard, married , kids, ect and maybe, if your lucky you can put a few bucks back for a gun now and then and you have been dreaming of ownig an R-1 think twice. Is it worth the gamble or should you consider a gun manufacturer that officers a little more diversity in parts availability. I mean common man, not being able to correct a minor thing like point of impact with different sights. Think very carefully my friend. I can thinnk of a time in my life where this type of thing would have been a great deal of dissapointment. Just a thought, Stay safe…
I own a 1911 R-1. I also carry a Glock 22. As a Police firearms instructor I much prefer the Remington to the Glock. Accuracy is spot on with the 1911 and the weapon performs flawlessly. The factory trigger is much lighter than my Glock with the 5 pound trigger bar and it breaks like glass with no creep. I carry the Glock on-duty because it is the department issued weapon. I have never felt un-armed or out gunned with the Glock but when I get home the Glock comes off and the R-1 goes on my side as an off duty weapon. (we are required by policy to carry off-duty) While a .40 is a formidable caliber, the .45 is a legendary man stopper. I am very confident in my 1911 Remington R-1. After 33 years as a Police Officer and 12 of those as a certified firearms instructor, I would recommend the 1911 R-1 to anyone wanting a quality firearm.
http://www.gunblast.com/Remington-R1.htm
My last post was not exceped i guess for something i said,so i have read all the problems that you have been haveing with the new R1s. Me and my wife have now aquired three of them ,two we have shot over a thousands rbs thur. We have not even had a stove pipe yet. I do stop and clean them after about two hundred rounds or so. I have fired ball ammo to hollow points. Ours seem to eat anything we have put threw them so far. Remington has contracted these pistols out to have made. Remington just puts thier name on them. Like most companies are doing these days they out sorce the products. All in all the R1s are a good copy of the 1911 but they are not a race gun. For right now all is fine with ours, time will tell that . We will have to wait and see what happens.
Oh and just for the sake of doing this i typed and posted this on a debate on a wilson combat 1911 and figured since we ARE talking about 1911s here it may be relevent enough. True and True, but if you know what to look for in quality and like the “design” meaning all the cosmetics then thats fine. I personally own a RIA base model 1911 and its ok for the $500 i spent but if i had the money i would have had a custom build with tighter tolerances, match trigger job, match grade hammer, and a lighter titanium firing pin for faster lockup for a clean follow up shot as well as night sights, but the basic model will do its job… and i dont have that much cash to throw around either. So all in all its up to the end user, what feels comfortable to him/her, and what they are willing to fork out for it. Price isnt always quality, BUT quality comes with price. Just gotta know whats actually gone into it to know if its worth it.
I love your logic, and ill stick to chocolate… vanilla is ok here and there but seems too bland for my taste.
To Enfield476,
Yes I like proven designs made from steel and not plastic (except for the stocks or grips of course) The first 45 I ever qualified with was a WWII Remington Rand. I later owned a Colt and I will be buying the new Remington even though they were forced by economics to make it saleable in the people’s republic of calimexico. Our best hope to fix califmexico is the San Andreas fault.
Every Remington I have owned or own has been extremely well made and very robust. I presently own a 700 in 7mm rem mag, an 11-87 and an old model 11 with US ordinance bombs stamped into the side of the 30″ barrell (No it isn’t for sale) Remington has also made other handguns including the old XP 100. I am amazed by the number of people that prefer plastic guns and M-16 type jamamatics that have the gall to slam JMB’s work. Yes the design has lived for a long long time. Betcha Glocks won’t be being produced another 100 years from now. Old designs like John Garand’s still have a place in today’s warfighting (The M-14 and even the old M-1 can reach way out and kill the enemy better than the amped up 22 centerfires that are passing as assault rifles these days. The m-16 I had in basic combat training jammed on the range during a rain shower at Ft Polk La. Never saw or heard of an m14 or old M-1 being such a panty waist. The Koreans want to give us back a big bunch of M1′s that the current administration doesn’t want returned because some of them (shudder shake) might wind up in civilian hands. The troops in Afghanistan really need something with reach and reliability and the M-4 ain’t getting it done. also more seasoned soldiers have reported that the m-9 9mm is lacking when compared to the 45 ACP. The Russians started transitioning back to the7.62 x 39 and more importantly the 7.62 x 54r in afghanistan because they found out that their 22 wasn’t much at long range and dusty conditions than ours are. Their Tokarev pistol was a combloc copy of the 1911 design in several different calibers and many of those old Tokarevs are still in use and highly prized by the Ruskies that are issued them.
I have to state here that the m-16 was given us by the same brain trust that left guns off of our main air superiority fighter of the time the old F-4 thinking that 4-6 missles were adequate for a dogfight. They had to change that thinking when old MiG 17′sbegan shooting down f-4′s on a fairly regular basis. The Navy also created “Top Gun” because of that fiasco.
Sometimes accepting “new” technology just because it’s new and sexy really is not the smart way to go. I will be getting a new R1 1911 for around 600 dollars ( no I am not going to tell you where) but I would pay more because it is a REMINGTON. To me Remington does not look like ass. There are many politicians in both major parties that look like asses to me. Sorry if I got a little bit political but the mere mention of the peoples republic of calimexico walks on the fighting side of me.
Alpha Mike Foxtrot
i really like the new remington 11911r1 best shooting gun I own
still getting a few jams with my reloads It seems like it doesn’t like h.p. midway 185 grn bullets
all u gun buffs out there, listen up
I just bought the new remington 1911r1 and love it I also have a glock 19. S&w mp 9mm and several others
it’s the best shooter i own I do a lot of shooting and do all of my reloading 45;s 380′s and 9mm
I have had issues with the new 1911 jamming on me i’m going to try a hotter load and see if that corrects it
so far i’ve been using 185 grn hp from midway with winchester primers and bulls eye powder 4.1 grns of powder
I don’t know if my oal is off or what but some help is needed here if anyone has any idea’s
i love my 1911 and can’t say one bad thing about it except for the jams and i’m sure its my own doings
Exmilitary,save your money buy a Colt Match grade-series 70 or 80.Then compare to plastic guns. 1 inch groups-factory target.If your to “weak”to
handle-then mayby you should buy a plastic gun.
Ray. That’s the kind of write up I was hoping to give. Time will tell.
My R-1 is one of the best 1911 i own . Went to the range last Saturday. Put my first 550 rd thru it. Not one problem ,great grouping. Nothing fancy about the R-1 just a fine weapon. I own Colts,Kimbers S&W 1911.I put it right up there with them. I also own two Glocks and XD’s and XDM’s. But the 1911 is by my Bed.
To anyone else with the MOS of 11 Bravo, all I can say is; HU’AH! or OO’RAH!
You must mean HOOAH. Not sure where you got those bizarre spelling standards.
Face it, some people would buy a turd if it said Remington on the side, and blow their breath in the face of everyone they met, claiming it was the greatest turd they had ever eatern.
Every time I see JMB brought up, I always remember how he thought the thumb safety was stupid. And how proud he was of the Hi-power, where he got to fix what he considered the flaws of the 1911.
Wartime demands are different then peacetime. There is no excuse for poor quality today. Today’s materials and machinery are superior then back then. By the way Colt has offered WW1 and WW2 models. I’m sure they did not go out of their way to manufacture an inferior weapon. Then there are the questions of assembly and components that people have been referring to. A Remington product having problems with Remington ammo…..hmmmmm
Problems people have ,. i read a few of the comments, i bought the 1911 R 1 cause it was very much like the gun made so many years ago with so much history,.. some one wrote “Crude ” when they said they took it apart , i have question with a statement like that ,.. the gun was supposed to mirror the original, what did this person expect. Stove piping can happen for many reasons since i reload i can tell you , my malfunctions happened cause a load may be to light,. i am very happy with the quality of this gun,.. i see no issues to harp on.. Vincent Moretti
I purchased the new 1911 R 1 i have put over a 1000 rounds threw the gun , the sites are great, the gun well built, i am extremely happy with this gun, i paid 629. with tax, I have shot IDPA with it many times,.. the gun is a great buy.. Vincent Moretti
Got a new R1 haven’t shot it yet and will not shoot it.
Disassemled it to clean it, very crude.
Is Remington R1 the new name for Norinco (Chinese junk)
Tried out the repaired R1. 100 rounds of Remington 230 Gr. One stovepipe with rapid and slow fire. Stovepipe was with slow fire. Accuracy from new hasn’t changed, very disappointing. This is subjective, just comparing it to my Gold Cup and Super. All things being equal there should not be such a significant difference.
Army Chief, best thing you can do for yourself. Had my Gold Cup since the 70’s best thing I ever did.
K. I’m going to risk Remington reading this because I have a complete refund on the way. If you read above youll see the problem with the first weapon.”Catch that? –First–.” Just a quick recap, 1st Weapon would fire pick up a new round go into full battery and not fire.Which I guess would be ok if you were looking for a single shot.Sent 1st weapon back and for awhile nobody knew where the weapon was???? Finally get it back and within 15 seconds of the first function test the grip safety failed! “completely guys”.So I contacted remington again and informed them that I bought a new weapon and not a worked on one so it was either an entirely new weapon or a refund. Remington to there credit was more than helpful when it reached this stage just to let you all know.Anyway I opted for a “New’ weapon.”Such a slick lookin Weapon I had to try again
” OOPS! ..Mistake! Again a function test was preformed “this being the new weapon” And grip safety failed again
. Called Remington back and got it setup to return the weapon for a refund.. Seriously BUMMED!!! BUT!!!!…. Ive allready been to my local gun dealer and picked up a beautiful Colt Gold Cup. Figured I owed it to myself for all the hassle of the R1.
:):):)
No technical data was given. I understand a manufacturer would be reluctant to release any negative tech data on a newly released product, for marketing and possible liability reasons. I also understand that things can happen even with the best of quality control systems. I just resent the unprofessional statement. Just fix it and send it back, the less said the better. I want to say a heat treat problem but that’s not my call.
Mr. Caramiello,
Did they come up with ny functional, mechanical reason for the problem (e.g., broken sear/hammer, etc.)? That presupposition is disappointing.
Well I received my R1 back from Remmington in record time. Get this. The packing slip sent back with the R1 actually says “ It appears the gun was dry fired by the owner with the slide off ” can you believe this crap. Why the hell would anyone do that, especially someone who has three other 1911’s, ALL COLTS. Never a problem, out of the box or EVER!!!! I will be taking it to the range tomorrow and will report on its performance. Tell you the truth I don’t expect much!! Forget the marketing crap and stay with COLT!!!! Now thats a real peice of history!!
Have one. Trouble with it feeding! Can’t get the slide to assemble since I fired it!!! Sending it back for evaluation and repair. Hope Remmington is not having quality problems like in the 70′s
I guess I should have said, buy what you like, shoot what you got, and to hell with the rest
As to this date I have owned 6 semi-auto pistols. My first was a Mk2 Ruger, the next was a S&W model 59, then came the Norinco Mod.313 tokarev, I just had to have a RI 1911, I found a little Star Pony .380 impoted by Interarms, and lastly I aquired a Walther P22. What do these guns have in common. They are all firearms. It don’t matter to me what they shoot as long as when I pick them up they shoot where I’m aiming. Oh and by the way my favorite pistol would have to be a toss up between my Blackhawk and my Colt Official Police.
@Maineac
well said
+1
Tater,
Thank you for sharing that information. I’ve been working my way through Unique and Bullseye and have yet to reach for the HP 38!
Good shoting,
Ed
Here is my last up-date on my R1. I chronographed some loads and used my Springfield Mil-spec as a base gun. 4.7grs. of WST with a 230gr. Montana Gold FMJ bullet. Mil-spec was 769 fps average for 5 shots and the R1 was 799 FPS. 5.7 grs. of H.P. 38, Mil-spec was 806 fps. and the R1 was 833 average for 5 shots. I tested 5 other loads and it was the same story with the R1 giving better velocities. I had one jam with the R1 using a max load with a 200gr. XTP. It says in the owners manual not to use +P ammo and I have had jams when using max loads with XTP bullets. It seems the chamber is at the minimum specs, tight. This R1 is very accurate and set up more like a Gold Cup than a Mil-spec pistol in spite of it’s appearance. I have also found that 5.7 grs. of HP 38 duplicates the Winchester factory load with a 230gr. fmj, white box, at 833 fps. But the HP load is much more accurate and shoots very good. Also 6.6grs. of Auto Comp for 841 fps in my R1. The Mil-spec was only 807 fps with the Auto Comp. But the Mil-spec will handle +P ammo all day long with no problems and is very accurate too. I hope some of you have found my input helpful in reference to the new R1.
Hello to all that have posted comments on the 1911 R1, still waiting on mine toget here. But i would like to ask all of you for a little help in finding a extra clip for my Colt Sauer 30-06 Rifle. I have look every were for one have come up sort on finding one. If you have one are know of someone that does would you mind letting me know.
Thank you
Ray Johnson, Brownwood Tx.
Perhaps Remington should have taken a more innovative approach and offered a “longslide” version – an extended slide and 6-inch barrel – because I think they’ve entered a very competitive arena with established players.
I’ve accumulated an assortment of Remington rifles over the past 45 years and I’ve had very few disappointments. I’m pleased to see them tackle the .45ACP in a Model 1911A1 frame, but this is a new offering and my concern is that it has been redesigned by lawyers. Until I examine the trigger mechanism and other features…until I get a better insight into which parts are MIM (metal injection molded) or how much lateral play there may be in the slide, I’ll stick to my Kimber Custom II.
I should add, there will always be room in my safe (or on my belt) for another good .45 ACP.
I have over 500 rounds through my R1 now and 4.7 grs. of WST with a 230 Montana Gold FMJ is my bullet of choice. Next with the same bullet is 5.3 grs. of H.P. 38. Both of these shoot one hole groups to point of aim. Is does not get any better for me. If you reload, you might give these a try, hope Remington makes a single action in 44 Special too!
Still waiting on the R1s to hit in my area. Seems remington shipped out R1 to some of the bigger wholesalers. Still waiting for the two i have on back order threw my dealer here in Tx. I have enjoyed all the comments except for few really out there. I am sure like any production firearm there are going tobe a few lemons. I am sure Remington will work them out, may not be the way we would like. Had a Colt like that a few years back ,took a year to solve the problem. Sent it back 4 times.
Good reading here. I am, however more interested in the details of the weapon than I am the opinions. I appreciate a good debate, but sometimes those with opinions become quite intoxicated by the exhuberance of their verbosity. I’ll just wait until the weapon hits a store near me. Solidarity Mates
I am looking forward to seeing one. I think it is great. Thank you Remington!!!!
Brad,
You should learn the difference between a forum and a blog. This is not a 1911 forum. This is called a blog. A blog is where an amateur editorialist, or “blogger,” editorializes, or “blogs” about something that is of interest to his or her self. Then readers are asked to give their opinion on both the subject, and on the blogger’s opinion of the subject. Since people subscribe to blogs, through feeds, they get notification of all of the subjects that are posted. So therefore on a blog, you will get a lot of different people from different knowledge sets giving their opinion.
If you don’t like blogs, then maybe you should stay off of them, and stick to the forums, which is where all the like-minded fanboys of the forum’s topic will be at.
I usually dont read forums, and most of you are the reason why. For starters i own 1911′s, glocks, cz’s, xd’s, and several sig’s and find that all of them have their strong/weak points. The purpose of this forum is to discuss pro/cons about the new R1. What i cant figure out is why anti-1911 people are reading 1911 forums… If you hate the pistol sooo much, why read every new thing about it that comes out. What drives you to rain on someone elses parade. I understand the 1911 group is not your scene, so stay the f out of it. I looked up forums to see what experiences people have had with the new r1, instead i spend an hour wadeing through the bs to find the few posts that actually have anything to do with the function/ reliability of the weapon. As i said i own glocks, a 19 and 30. They are great guns and reliable, i also like them the least of my pistols bcuz they do not feel right in my hand. my favorite pistol is the sig p226. my favorite range pistol is a cz75b sa. My point is, stick with whats comfortable to you, but stop acting like an asshole when some1 else likes what you dont. Arrogance is not a virtue
Remington is a JOKE!!!!!! Anyone considering buying this weapon might want to consider ponying up the extra 200 bucks and just buy a Springfield…Got the weapon back today and within 30 seconds of handling the gun I found that the Grip safety is somehow been bypassed and provides no protection at all. Not even going to take it to the range to see if the original problem has been resolved. What gets me is a tech handled this gun worked on this gun and didn’t notice that one of the main features of the weapon had been altered by his work. “Take another HIT dude”
So..I told them send a new weapon or cash no other option at this point would be acceptable. Of course I have to wait for another shipping label and however much time Remington deems they need to resolve this.Like I said what a JOKE!!!!
Army Chief, I would have demanded a new one or a refund. When I buy something new, I want something new, not something “worked on.” I bought a $5000 lawn mower and when I got it they had damaged it in transporting it to my house. “Oh, we can have someone out here Monday to fix it.” Wrong. I bought a new one. I don’t want a “fixed one.” If I damaged it once it’s in my hands, that’s on me. Until it’s in my hands, it’s on them. Same if it’s defective.
We have a problem Houston……Someone not naming names forgot to ship my weapon back to me in a prompt manner.With the purchase of your new 1911 r1 you get a service plan promising a 7 day turn around.Well just got confirmation from ups that it wont arrive until the 6th of july
Was suppose to be leaving for a 2 week stint of trout fishing in the morning but I guess thats now out the window cause I have to be here to sign for it. I look in my gun safe and I see a 308 woodsman,7mm mag 700 BDL,1100 shotgun, and 2 870′s and say to myself this just isn’t right. First the weapon fails straight out of the box then they dink around with shipping and cost me at least a week of my trip. I’m beginning to think I should have bought a Norinco piece of crud at least with that i could fire more than one shot at a time. Sorry Army Chief on the War Path!!! LOL
K… Got the preliminary report from Remington today. Apparently it was a miss installation of the springs associated with the firing pin.After looking at the exploded view of the weapon I can only find one and it looks to me to be rather difficult to miss install so maybe thier more talking springs in the trigger mechanism.Anyway should have it back this thursday or friday.Will give it a test run and let everyone know the outcome>
Chief remove the barrel take a live round drop in the barrel push on it with your thumb hard remove it and look at the slug base near the top of the case can you see marks that look like rifle lands if so try different ammo Don
I was shooting winchester fmj? Was this problem ammo for you as well Don?
I just came home from another trip to my shooting range and have shot the best group ever with this R1. I really like the way this pistol shoots! I took my S70 Colt, Springfield Mil-Spec, Taurus and R1 and the R1 was the one I could shoot best. The Taurus is a good target pistol but the R1 was more accurate for me. There is something about the R1, it feels different and shoots. I have found WST powder and 230gr. Montana Gold FMJ bullets to be able to produce one hole groups with no problem at 15 yards off-hand. The 1911 just fits my hand the best. And all 1911′s feel a little different to me. I don’t really like the double stack frames and triggers on most other pistols. I like single action 44 Specials best, but for self-defense I’ll stick with one of my 1911 style pistols. They conceal better for me in the summertime. Don’t leave home without one. IMO.
Before you send it back thease pistol don’t like long swc ammo try different
ammo first mine did the same till used shorter col loads both swc and jhp
Don
Also.. on the debate over 1911′s vs glocks and other “plastic” guns there is no debate. The 1911 was designed to end enemy lives where as pretty much every other weapon since has been designed to to be ergo and a range shooter. You know theres more fighting features to the 1911 other than a round coming out the end of the barrel. The lanyard loop is an effective man stopper when used as a club. Hit someone in the head with a glock and sure it will hurt…let me whack you with the lanyard loop on a 1911 and you wont get up.So in conclusion what I’m trying to say is the 1911 is a fighting mans weapon and pretty much all others are designed for RANGE cowboys. And thats why the weapon remains as popular today as 90 years ago its the best and most universal at what it was designed for.
K..Took my new Remington R1 for its first test run at the range today. Was a disaster right out of the box.Weapon would fire the first round chambered but failed on the second shot. After the first round either the trigger or some safety system would not allow the hammer to fall.”Felt bound up”..once I did get the hammer to fall on the second round but failed to engage the firing pin??????.So its on its way back to Remington..Will say the 5 rounds I did manage to fire I was able to cut center target on all 5 at 15 yards. Guess I’m just gonna have to trust Remington to make this right. I will post later on the outcome….unhappy
im a boltgun nut(preferably of the hyper velocity ilk)just something about 6~7″ groups at 500 yrds that makes my boat float.hell if i get lucky i`ll do 4.5″>>>but then im not much of a shot….anyways ive owned glocks,sigs,1911`s,and several other pistols nice shooters.But im a wheelgun freak,,nothin like a m66 or a m29…colts python is pretty smooth as is wessons six shooters.Point being as a few in here have stated its all about preference and doability…and if you carry all day…better have common sense&good leather.Yall be good see ya,,,BTW FOR SOME REAL FUN..get out to Knob Creek sometime helluva machine gun shoot
I just got a R1 and it shoots very good. The bushing is tighter than need be but helps it to be accurate. The barrel is very good and the ramp is also better than some others I have. I like the sights and will shoot this one more than some other 1911′s I own. It will also be a carry pistol. Don’t really see how this 1911 can be criticized. And hope Remington goes all the way with it’s 1911 program. The 45acp is an old round but it is fun to shoot and very accurate if you reload and still gets the job done without all the drama that some other calibers require. Very glad I added this 1911 to my collection of 45 autos.
Igot my 1911r1 10 days ago fit and finish near perfect shots 3″ 25 yard gropes with laser cast 200 swc out the box pistol can do better the day I was at the range had a cross wind if you know Idaho you know the wind real happy and its AMERICAN made. thanks Don
Dear Mike @ Rohrbaugh, do you have a detailed declaration of everything you use to build your products available, so customers can check if everything really is “100% American”?
Apart from materials, are tools and machines included? How about the workers, are they also all “100% American”? If so, does that mean that immigrants are barred from employment in your company? How about people that are descended from immigrants?
Just to be clear, I am not trying to imply that you are racists. I’m just trying to find out how far you take this concept of nationalism.
Please note that I am probably not personally a potential customer, with the U.S. export regulations making it more or less impossible to import your firearms to Europe.
My personal philosophy when buying guns, or anything really, is that the quality of the product, and the price, are by far the most important things. Where it is made is quite irrelevant. Nor am I interested in buying from a company that spends any part of the money I pay them, on nationalism.
But I fully respect your right to run your company as you see fit.
Friedman is a shill for corporate america. Think for yourself.
Oh, but I do. The late, great Mr. Friedman just happens to be very good at explaining the mechanisms in the marketplace.
If you had studied his work you would have known that he was totally against corporate welfare, bailouts, and special privileges for corporations.
Was there anything in particular in that video that you disagree with?
It shows that it’s good design,despite being almost 100 years later.
The .45ACP has always been a fight stopper. JMB knew that and designed a ergonomic gun to fire it.
A large majority of the autoloading pistols today use a Browning-type action.
Glock,HK,et al.
I just bought one of these. Very good fit and finish. For the price I am impressed. Noticeably better fit and finish than the Springers at the same price range. Retail price is showing up at a little over $600 it seems.
“Carlon 28 Apr 2010 at 10:55 pm link comment
Nothing is 100% made in any one country, because such constraints would make the product very expensive or even impossible to produce.
Here is Milton Friedman, explaining why:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Gppi-O3a8“
Friedman is a shill for corporate america. Think for yourself.