DS Arms new FAL pistol and SBR
DS Arms, not wanting be to outdone by their AR-making counterparts, will be selling a Short Barred Rifle (SRB) and pistol version of the FN FAL. They feature a barrel about 8" long (+/- one inch, I forget the exact length).
SRB (top) and Pistol (bottom)
The pistol is essentially the SBR with the stock replaced with a sling attachment. I forgot to ask, but I think they will have made it hard for a regular stock to be attached (the BATFE can be fussy about this).
SBR with para-style stock in folded position.
The SBR pictured above is actually a full auto model; it is in effect a 7.62x51mm Personal Defense Weapon!
DSA were not able to give me pricing for the pistol or SBR and as of now no pricing is on their website.
The use for something like this is to make a bigger flash and bang than anything your neighbors have.
The only thing better I’ve seen is an “HK51K” with a 4″ barrel. Just think of an MP5K built around a G3 reciever. 4″ bbl – ~2.5″ chamber = ~1.5″ rifling = monster fireball. The Youtube videos show it actually blowing rings of fire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTOtCB1dVIk&feature=related
I want one for the novelty of it.
It’s also noteworthy that this may be a legal hunting gun in places that ban deer hunting with rifles, but allow shotguns and pistols.
I call this Type of Weapon a Pifle IE a Pistol in a Rifle Cartridge
I see no practical nor tactical use for any of those weapons.
If you got the cash, have some fun. I would not want to shoot a weapon firing a 7.62 NATO or .308 with such a short barrel and nothing more then a birdcage at the end. I don’t see that as being fun….but that’s me.
I could imagine the fireball and noise coming out of the end of that barrel…LOL.
Steve, yes, that’s what I said, more or less.
Here are a couple of defining characteristics of a pistol if you ask me:
*You can fire it accurately with one hand.
*You can carry it in a holster.
*Lacks a sling…
SAS used at really cut down G3, like the HK 51 K, but found it to be somewhat … useless.
Is that a 30 round mag in the pistol?
cool.
hey guys what do you thing of a auto loading doubel barrel rifle.
somthing that looks like it jumped out of district 9.
the rifle that christofer used.
just to get a two shot birst for the civilian market
Just the idea of a .308 “pistol” makes my teeth hurt!
why would anyone want a .308 in pistol form?
7.62 NATO full auto SBR with just a birdcage? 7.62 NATO [i]PISTOL[/i]? Come on, really? I guess these are toys for the guy that already has everything, and doesn’t shoot any of it much.
Anybody see the Shooting USA featuring DSA? Great episode. They shot all the new stuff, SBR’s, Auto, don’t think they had the pistol, though. Man, it made me a FAL believer, again. Venerable design, indeed. LOVE to have one in SBR!
The “pistol” is presumably not full auto (ie not a machine pistol). And it’s not really a pistol at all, by any reasonable definition. I’m guessing they’re just calling it a pistol in order to comply with some stupid anti-gun laws.
Anyway, there was a short version of the original FAL produced for the SAS if I recall. But I don’t think they used it very much. 7.62×51 is probably too noisy and weak with such a short barrel.
A compact rifle should be made in bullpup layout. Anything else = FAIL.
Carl, its a pistol by ATF definition.
Sheesh! What’s next? A Barrett M82 Pistol? As usual, I despair, etc.
Barett M82 pistol? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
I dont get the one w/o a buttstock kind of heavy and clumsy for a mechine pistol. But the SBR with the folder stock looks cool.