NEW – Springfield Armory RO Elite Pistols

Springfield Armory has just announced the release of four new 1911 pistols in their popular Range Officer series. Dubbed the RO Elite, the new guns each feature a number of upgrades at affordable prices. Served up in two caliber options, shooters can either opt for the best all around pistol cartridge to ever walk the earth or pick 45 ACP. Kidding, kidding. But seriously, the answer is always 9mm.

Both myself and TFB’s Thomas Gomez will be bringing you reviews on the Springfield RO Elite models in the coming weeks. So stay tuned.

MSRP: $1045 to $1145 depending on model, options and caliber choices. Check out the press release and the link below for further details and information.

Springfield Armory expands 1911 Range Officer line with new RO ELITE series pistols:

GENESEO, ILL. (7/17/17) – With the launch of four new RO® Elite models, the Springfield Armory® 1911 Range Officer® line is expanding its reputation for performance that far exceeds price.

New for summer 2017, the new RO Elite line adds multiple premium components and details for both competition shooters and defense-minded citizens, in both 9mm and .45ACP versions. For example, every new RO Elite series pistol is clad in the same Black-T® treatment specified on Springfield Armory 1911s built for the FBI’s regional SWAT and Hostage Rescue Teams. The Black-T coating is self-lubricating, highly corrosion resistant, unaffected by extremes, and engineered to shield the firearm from the heaviest use and toughest conditions. RO Elite models also include: Springfield Armory’s crisp, newly designed Gen 2 triggers, ambidextrous thumb safeties, and custom thin-line G-10 grips designed specifically for this series, adding an entirely new feel for high-precision 1911s. That’s more than $370 worth of upgrades for only a $125 increase in price.

“The original 1911 Range Officer line remains a huge success with serious shooters”, says Dennis Reese, Springfield Armory CEO. “It made professional level performance more affordable by leveraging the tools, techniques and experience only Springfield Armory has. That’s always been our calling card. The new RO Elite models are more of the same: premium features, high performance, affordable price.”

  • The RO Elite Target is engineered for accuracy. Forged steel match grade frame and slide are precision-fit for fluid-smooth function. The 5-inch stainless steel, match grade barrel, fully adjustable rear target sight, fiber optic front sight, and GI recoil system complete a form with fit, feel and balance that will dominate the range.
  • The RO Elite Operator® also has a 5-inch match grade stainless steel barrel, Picatinny rail for accessories, and slanted serrations on the front and rear of the slide. The Operator has a GI recoil system, along with a tactical ledge, white-dot rear sight and fiber optic front sight.
  • The RO Elite Champion™ features a 4-inch stainless steel match grade barrel, captured in a forged steel slide with flat wire captive recoil system. The full-height, forged lightweight aluminum alloy frame is light and strong. The RO Champion is topped with a tactical ledge, white-dot rear sight and red fiber optic front sight.
  • The RO Elite Compact carries a 4-inch stainless steel match grade bull barrel with fully-supported ramp and a flat wire captive recoil system for ultimate reliability. The compact frame is forged aluminum alloy, maximizing concealment and minimizing weight. A low-profile, tactical ledge, white-dot rear sight with fiber optic front sight sits on a forged steel slide, allowing quick and accurate target acquisition.

“We’re proud to offer new choices for pistol shooters who appreciate details”, says CEO Dennis Reese. “And especially proud to prove, once again, that you can own and enjoy a high-quality firearm without breaking the bank.

RO ELITE

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  • Mrninjatoes

    I love a 1911.

  • AC97

    “shooters can either opt for the best all around pistol cartridge to ever walk the earth or pick 45 ACP. Kidding, kidding. But seriously, the answer is always 9mm”

    True, true, but you know what else is always the answer?

    Boycotting Springfield Armory.

    • Kristoff

      Alright, why are we boycotting Springfield Armory? I’m genuinely asking. Also, 10mm Master Race.

      • QuadGMoto

        Because when the lobbyist funded by Springfield Armory stabbed gun owners in the back over an Illinois bill, Springfield Armory didn’t jump high enough or fast enough to counter that betrayal. That it took most of a single business day to release a statement disagreeing with his actions, and another day to fire him, plus one or two more to team up with other pro-gun groups to attack that law was not sufficient for some people.

        • Mrninjatoes

          Two sides to that story. Essentially their lobby group went rogue. The whole thing spun out of control when TBAG, excuse me TTAG, wrote a bunch of hit pieces after Springfield stopped paying TTAG advertising dollars. According to my contacts in the Industry, Springfield’s sales have not dipped in the slightest.

          • AZgunner

            Their lobby group didn’t “go rogue”. Their lobby group consisted of four people, all of whom were employees of Springflield or Rock River. Them trying to scapegoat their own lobby group was just their poor attempt to cover their tracks when they got called out on their BS.

          • Mrninjatoes

            Okay…lets just piss on the millions of dollars Springfield has spent protecting your rights. They make one mistake, which they have apologized for and you f**** cry babies loose your minds. You guys need a good hug, a therapy dog and a coloring book.

          • RSG

            Wait, so you’re admitting that the post you made just 4 minutes before this one was a lie? That the lobbying firm didn’t go rogue and you rationalize it away as a mistake? So in other words, you have absolutely no credibility. I happen to know for a fact, from multiple retailers, that Springfield is suffering terribly. And that many of these stores are no longer ordering their products. So, another lie from you.

          • Mrninjatoes

            They screwed up by not keeping their lobbyist on a leash. What you say differs from the knowledge that I have, so I guess we are at an impasse. So what would it take for you to stop your f**** whining? Would you prefer Springfield close their doors? Throw their employees out in the street? Move? You complain a lot, but I don’t see you doing much else.

          • iksnilol

            Nah, he’s boycotting SA and encourages others to do so too. Completely legitimate protest.

            I wouldn’t call it “complain a lot…”

          • Brad

            Partially correct. The lobbying group, which they were the sole members and contributors, is claimed to have went “rogue”.

          • QuadGMoto

            There was the executive board, which consisted primarily of Springfield and Rock River executives, and there was the guy who did the actual work. Unless board members are actually doing the work, they aren’t aware of the daily activities of the lobbyist.

            Heck, the entire point of setting up a separate organization to handle the lobbying is so they can spend their time running their manufacturing business, and leaving the lobbying efforts to someone who is good at it.

          • J.T.

            If it had been a one time thing, I would give them the benefit of the doubt. This wasn’t a one time thing though, IMFA was giving money to anti-gun politicians’ election committees back in 2013. It’s listed right on their form 990 for that year so it isn’t just a baseless accusation. Both companies were even asked about that and made aware of what their lobbyist had been doing back in February, before the controversy over SB-1657, and both companies did absolutely nothing.

          • Ranger Rick

            Not buying the “rogue” argument, not for a tiny lobbying operation basically owned and operated by Springfield. Not to mention going “rogue” doesn’t look good on a lobbyist’s resume.

      • Gee

        Because when you play both sides of the coin to your advantage, while hurting your customer base’s access to the very freedoms you claim to protect, get caught and try to backtrack with a sob story on Youtube, you deserve to get shut down. We’ll never forget what they did, how they did it and why they did.

        • QuadGMoto

          If a manufacturer is “hurting [their] customer base”, they are also hurting themselves! That’s why I don’t think the executives actually knew what the lobbying agreed to.

          • Nimrod

            SA created the lobby organization, hired and paid ONE guy. The guy was essentially an employee of SA. Their president then bumbled and fumbled his lies. Rationalize and apologize all you want but SA’s president screwed the pooch and deserves what happens to them.

      • thedarkknightreturns

        I’ll see your 10mm and raise you a 9×25 Dillon.

  • Trotro

    These look nice and I’d love to have one, but I just can’t justify spending a grand on a 9mm 1911 when I could buy all sorts of great striker fired 9mm pistols for half the price.

    • Jared Vynn

      Check out Rock Island for inexpensive but good 9mm 1911. The 22tcm double stack combo is a hoot to shoot in 9mm.

  • Gee

    Springfield…NOPE!

  • Cactus Air Force

    Still not buying any Springfield Armory stuff.

    • USMC03Vet

      $50 says you buy Smith and Wesson, Ruger, Troy, EO Tech, Canik etc.

      • Cactus Air Force

        You owe me 50 dollars, because I’ve never bought from any of those companies. I have bought firearms from Walther, Superior Arms, Palmetto State Armory, and Glock. That’s it. Message me for my Paypal address, thank you.

        • Cactus Air Force

          Actually, PSA was technically not a firearm, it was an upper reciever, so scratch that one.

        • nate

          so walther used to make guns for Nazis that killed americans, gaston glock lives his life like a mafia boss and everytime you buy a gun from glock you give him more money to be a monster. So this whole “don’t buy from springfield” because I buy from company blah blah blah, they all have done dumb things. Ruger was involved in magazine capacity laws back in the 80’s, and most large companies were trying to make under the table deals with the Clinton ban in the 90’s.

          • Cactus Air Force

            Of course Walther made guns for the Wehrmacht. German gun company makes guns for German soldiers? Well, yeah. You might understand that today the US conducts joint military exercises with the German military, so I’m pretty sure collectively America has gotten over it. Do you rush out and buy some tea to dump in the local pond every time you see a Mini Cooper? Do you buy Chinese products at Walmart, or are you still up in arms about the Boxer Rebellion?

            I think it’s fair to say that myself and many other gun owners/enthusiasts have decided that this particular incident with SA and RRA was especially egregious in terms of denigrating the 2nd for personal gain, and all the responsible parties are still gainfully employed at these companies. You seem to have different ideas on what would prevent you from buying from a company, and that’s fine. Everyone has their own goalposts.

            I don’t buy Glocks anymore because I don’t like them. There is controversy around Gaston Glock, but I can’t parse it, most of the info stems from a lawsuit, huge sums of money, and 350+ pages of accusations from just a single party. I get the sense that he’s not a great dude, but I have no smoking gun, nothing conclusive really beyond what a grand total of 2 articles tell me. RRA and SA were certainly caught with their pants down in comparison. That being said, Jannuzzo almost took Glock into the same Clinton ban in the 90s, before making the wise decision to save face and throw S&W under the bus. Jannuzzo doesn’t work there anymore, maybe he was embezzling? I’m not even sure at this point. I have read from one source that he was vindicated, but there’s little to no follow-up on any of these claims, most of which come from a single Business Insider article. So yeah, I would pause before buying a Glock, I guess. If you have a source I would definitely be interested in these claims.

        • USMC03Vet

          Here is your $50 internet dollars. Don’t spend it all in one place.

          • Cactus Air Force

            Why, 50 internet dollars! I’m rich! Finally I can stop shitposting on TFB all day and give up my life of crime.

  • Bud Harton

    Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms can just die and fade away. They already have the Saint rifle, how about calling this the Judas pistol?

    • Mrninjatoes

      Great idea. Shut the doors. kick the employees out on the street. Illinois looses tax dollars, people go on welfare, local economy tanks.

      • Jared Vynn

        Wow so dramatic, are you saying they are too big to fail perhaps? Let the market decide, if people lose jobs that sucks but life ain’t all sunshine and roses.

        • Mrninjatoes

          Not dramatic, simple the facts. The market has decided…people are still buying SA products.

          • Jared Vynn

            Some are some aren’t, we can’t know the actual numbers unless Springfield or RRA releases the numbers. And calling for a boycott is part of how the market works.

          • Mrninjatoes

            You are right. We love to cannibalize our own.

          • Moondo

            Mrninjatoes, what do you have to say about the employees and communities, of other firearm businesses. That RRA & SA were trying to screw over in this deal?

          • Mrninjatoes

            Last time I say it. I know a lot of people at Springfield. They honestly did not know what their lobby group was doing. As soon as they found out, they took action and issued an apology.

      • Brad

        Easier thing to do would move 15 miles West into Iowa and be done with the “politicians” in IL. Close enough that any employee that wanted to could commute.

        It’s not my job to worry about their jobs, that’s their employers job. Obviously SAI and RRA weren’t too concerned about their employees.

        • Mrninjatoes

          Okay. Lets just move a million dollar factory and abandon a community. Easier said than done.

          • Brad

            Companies do it all the time and they would probably get some tax incentives from Iowa to do it. Besides, how much actual manufacturing vs assembling is happening there? The last new SAI product that I bought, an M1A Scout Squad, looked like it was assembled by a couple monkeys with a greasy banana.

      • iksnilol

        Better than to feed the hand that beats you.

      • CB

        Yeah, cause resources won’t shift in an economy and we should support traitors out of fear of folks getting a new job.

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  • thedarkknightreturns

    Best all around pistol cartridge to ever walk the face of the earth is 9mm? Really, you are trolling right? The 9mm has garnered quite a large cult of true believers as of late. 9mm is a mediocre stop gap measure made from a blown out .30 Luger case that by fluke became the most proliferous pistol service cartridge out there. Gabrielle Giffords and Fifty Cent were shot multiple times in the head and survived. Plenty of horror stories from the military about underwhelming performance as well. I can already hear the “but that was FMJ” comments. 9mm JHPs (including, Gold Dots, HSTs you name it) have the highest failure rate of all handgun cartridges to expand. The projectile is very truncated and has a very small meplat surface area, and hollow points in 9mm clog very easily and essentially become a FMJ. Energy is negligible when it comes to most any pistol calibers, so I won’t go there. I have a family member who is a medical examiner, and his take on this stuff is that he rarely sees people in his office dead from 9mm. Time and time again there are a couple of cartridges that seem to blow people out like a candle. The top two are .357 magnum and .45 ACP, he also seems impressed with .357 SIG. Most of the recovered projectiles in the aforementioned calibers are recovered .50+ expanded diameter. Of course the worst he sees are actually made by shotguns, entire heads removed, no exaggeration. Fortunately he does not see rifle and shotgun deaths as often. My ME kin has a friend who is a trauma surgeon, they get together and talk shop over some Bourbon quite often. The surgeon has worked on quite a few folks whom survived after he worked his magic. Most shot with 9mm or in some cases .40, generally the projectiles don’t expand, nor do they overpenetrate. He finds a lot of them under the skin, which is much more tough and elastic than most people realize. Most folks shot with rifles and shotguns rarely make it and are DOA. This isn’t bullet jello stuff, this is real world. But 9mm is pretty good for little guns, they can shove it into a .380 sized gun now, so it has it’s place. Bullet design is very important in handguns because they have so little energy to work with, and something has to make up for that fact. .45 auto, has a very large meplat surface, .357 magnum and SIG also typically have very flat projectiles. My guess regarding the seemingly underwhelming performance of .40 according to the surgeons’ experience, is likely due to the 180gr. hollow points. It really gimps .40, in my opinion, the best loads in .40 are the lighter loads 155gr and such. Just some food for thought, I wouldn’t feel awful about being stuck with a 9mm, but I would rather have something else for serious social work given the choice. It’s good to have reasonable expectations with regards to your pet pistol round of choice.

    • Mrninjatoes

      You got trolled. And, the FBI went to 9mm to help its snowflake SJW agents qualify, because 40 was to “harsh”. And their test on 9mm were garbage. 40 is better then 9.

      • thedarkknightreturns

        I’m sure, but I’m tired of the euro pellet apologists, reminds me of all the hype over wondernines in the gun rags back in the day. But now it’s all about the 9mm cartridge. Endless drivel about how “improved” it is.

        • No one

          And endless history to show the “Hype” was well justified considered high capacity 9mms have basically taken over and meanwhile, .45 ACP fanboys (mostly) and some other random pistol caliber fanboys just sit around crying that their cartridge got left in the dust and how it’s still the bestest ever and no one but them understands the TRUTH man!

          Get over yourself.

          • Big Daddy

            There tools for a job and the 9mm does not do it all. It’s best all around choice though. There are other situations that they are not the best choice. Like having to shoot through car doors, I would think the .357 SIG round would be better but some agencies issue the Hornady Critical Duty 135 +P 9mm for that.

          • thedarkknightreturns

            .357 SIG is an excellent intermediate barrier defeater, one of the best even with the slightly watered down offerings from the major duty ammo manufacturers. Admittedly it does not have a huge following outside of being fairly common in duty holsters, but it does have it’s fans, as does 10mm which is arguably one of the best semi automatic pistol cartridges ever designed. .357 SIG was designed for the specific purpose of giving LE an option in a high capacity semi auto similar to the lighter .357 mag loads, which have near legendary efficacy as a problem solver. From what I’ve seen it meets its mission. You can not safely load 9mm to the same velocities as .357 SIG without exceeding what would be +P+ pressures that would cause case failures. Plus the .357 SIG is a bottle nosed cartridge, how fun is that!

          • No one

            The police here are generally issued 124gr +P Winchester PDX1, It tends to do just fine against any FBI standard clothing or barrier including auto glass and tends to not have the QC problems the later model T series rounds do.

            Critical Duty 135gr +P is also nice (unlike Critical Defense which is awful).

            Barrier penetration with decent behind barrier effects (that’s all you can really expect from a pistol in general is “decent” at best) really isn’t that big of an issue these days with the correct round choice.

          • Big Daddy

            I’m no expert ,who is? But there are some things that i know are true.

        • iksnilol

          No need to improve perfection. And nine milla is perfection.

          • RocketScientist

            But mine goes to 10… its one more than 9

        • Ebby123

          The reason 9MM is the most popular handgun cartridge on the planet is because its the BEST!
          With modern hollowpoints the wound channel of a 9MM+P round is virtually indistinguishable from 40S&W and 45ACP.

          40 is already dead, and 45 is slowly fading into obscurity…
          Besides, you can’t fit 17 rounds of 45auto into a standard size handgun!

          ^.^

          • thedarkknightreturns

            I would venture that it’s common because it is cheap and NATO standardized. The WWII German stuff was very hot, 124gr. @1300+ FPS. It was not safe to fire in all guns, it would run in sub guns and the Luger and a few other military issued weapons. Though recently we have enjoyed ammo more similar to the hot military stuff, saying it is the “best” is just not based on anything other than personal preference. 9mm was never intended to be anything but a stop gap measure that was put in place to address many complaints that the .30 Luger was anemic. It is arguably one of histories most successful flukes. I like .357 SIG, it replicates the light .357 mag loads very well, it pushes a more modern bullet design at well beyond what would be safe pressure wise for a standard 9mm case, plus bottleneck bullets are cool.

      • thedarkknightreturns

        I’m one of those .357 SIG guys. It’s duty issue where I’m at along with quite a few other agencies in the area, we have done a lot of testing and it’s pretty Ideal for what we need it for.

      • No one

        The fact that the completely daft and ignorant seriously still believe this is astonishing.

        We live in an age of free unlimited information and yet people would rather clog their ears and make their own narrative about things than listen to the actual truth of the matter.

        ALet me put it to you this way champ, no trauma surgeon ANYWHERE is going to be good enough to tell the difference between a 9mm, .40 S&W or .45 ACP wound, infact, the caliiber of a pistol shot (and in many cases even buckshot or some rifle loads) is completelyt unknown until looked at microscopically by a forensic ballistics expert.

        Now go push your “durr It’s all bcuz of POLITICZ!” crap elsewhere.

        • Big Daddy

          It’s simple shoot what you shoot best. That goes for the gun and the round. But I cannot see anyone beating out the performance of the 9mm and ease of shooting compared to any other round that performs that well. A simple 9mm 124 SP Gold Dot or HST out of a G17 or G19 is hard to beat.

          Nobody can tell the difference in the wounds, true. You can carry more and get more on target faster, that is a fact. But someone always thinks they are better served with a 1911 or G29 in 10mm for some reason, it makes them feel better. The fact is sometimes feeling better is good, in a real gunfight feelings go out the window, training and shot placement is most important. Even the mighty .357 magnum has failed.

          If you use the “shoot until the threat is over” the 9mm in a handgun you shoot best with wins. If you’re on the range and you want to prove that point make the person do about 10 pushups and then try to shoot to match the actual feeling of being in a fight. Unless someone has fought and can remain totally relaxed without the adrenaline dump it proves the point. Even a +P loading in a 9mm will become snappy in a Glock. In a real gunfight you might not even be able to use the thumbs forward grip isosceles stance. You might be on the ground shooting with one hand.

          I have tried to educate and most times it’s a losing proposition. I have not given up yet.

        • Mrninjatoes

          Okay. Ask Rob Leatham what he thinks about the ‘FBI tests”.

          • No one

            A Springfield Armory (shocking since you practically sh ill for them that you’d pick him of all people.) sponsored IPSC champion? Yes, CLEARLY he has super secret and damning info on both years of wound ballistics study and the decision making of the FBI no one else knows about!

            I’ve had some horrifically bad appeals to authority when arguing with “people who are wrong in the gun community”, this one is easily top 5, if not top 3 of the worst I’ve EVER heard and doesn’t even prove a single thing at all.

          • Mrninjatoes

            We are talking calibers here, not brands. Oh and ask the FBI what length of barrel they tested 9mm with. It might surprise you.

          • No one

            So you’re posting what you heard as a “Rumor” as fact now here? Great job man!

            Remind me how this makes Rob Leatham anyway relevant to FBI procurment choices and testing or the effectiveness of calibers in human targets?

            Also, funny you’re probably too daft to know that he mostly shoots in competitions that have the same ruleset as IPSC open major, which has a .40 caliber round requirement meaning he couldn’t shoot a 9x19mm pistol even if he wanted to in a good portion of his competitions.

            But we can sweep that aside, it clearly doesn’t factor in at all.

          • Ebby123

            Rob Leatham is not qualified to analyze terminal ballistics.
            He shoots paper for a living. Definitely not a ballistics expert.

          • Mrninjatoes

            Okay. We will go that.

            Though he did teach a Tier 1 unit pistol skills for about 10 years and consulted on some secret squirrel stuff, but he just punches paper, so what does he know.

          • Ebby123

            A pistol skills teacher is not a terminal ballistics engineer or an ER trauma surgeon. So, yeah, what does he know (about this particular topic)?

    • Pete – TFB Writer

      Relax. It’s a joke from the 9mm vs 45ACP playbook. Besides, I don’t need to pick a caliber because the sound of racking the slide is enough deterrence.

      • thedarkknightreturns

        I’m not taking the bait this time.

    • No one

      *Wall of pure bull—- from butthurt .45 ACP fanboy.”

      Yeah yeah, no one cares about you dumb (and laughably incorrect) anecdotes, years of testing, actual data and experiments have shown there’s no actual noticeable, if any difference between 9mm and .45 ACP. and considering 9mm is the most common defensive and police caliber in the US and pretty much everywhere else is infact 9mm (or very slight variants of it for countries that don’t allow civilian ownership of “military” calibers), I can pretty easily guess you’re flat out lying about your anecdotes.

      Go preach to to a choir who actually cares.

    • Bart Jabroni

      You’re an idiot.

  • RSG

    Excellent offerings. Except for the fact that Springfield, along with Rock River Atms, colluded with Illinois democrat legislators to receive an exemption carve out detrimental to other state firearms dealers, in return for not fighting said legislation. And for those that would suggest that their lobbying firm went rogue- that would be an outright lie, as SA and RRA were the only 2 components of that firm, along with a single man directed to act on their behalf. This treason is separate from the fact that it’s been proven that SA gave large financial donations to politicians savagely opposed to the Second Amendment. I have no problem with TFB reporting on these new firearms. It is their right to do so. I also support the right of all defenders of the 2A to actively boycott these 2 treasonous companies into financial ruin and bankruptcy. I myself have practiced what I am preaching as I very much wanted to buy the new XDE, but could not do so in good conscience.

    • QuadGMoto

      Please explain to me how letting Illinois harm their dealers’ ability to sell guns helps Springfield and RRA?

      • Jared Vynn

        Springfield and RRA got a carve out for themselves, throwing the rest under the bus.

        • QuadGMoto

          Yes, there was a carve out for them. But the bill still harmed their dealers and customers. If their ability to sell what they make is reduced, how does that help them?

          • Brad

            No, it would have harmed their IL dealers and customers. They were willing to throw their home boys under the bus for 30 pieces of silver hoping the rest of the country wouldn’t notice.

          • QuadGMoto

            I did not say “all” dealers and customers. Their Illinois customers suffering is still a loss for them. How is that a good thing for them, something that they would be willing to agree to?

          • Brad

            Because they could have still manufactured and sold in the other 49 states as normal. They were willing to sacrifice IL to appease the gungrabbers as long as they got their carve out.

          • QuadGMoto

            Riiight.

            Here’s an idea. Let’s get all the 2nd Amendment supporters together to destroy all the gun manufacturers in the U.S. We’ll show those gun-grabbers how it’s really done! After all,we can always buy guns from the rest of the world.

            That’s not quite what you’re doing, but the effect is that you are doing the gun-grabbers’ work for them.

          • Brad

            Nope, just the companies that are run by morons that don’t support their customer base. Ever notice how many gun companies have left states that aren’t supportive of gun owners? It took a change of ownership at S&W and Ruger before they were forgiven, by some, for their missteps.

          • Jared Vynn

            Because there are plenty of other states they can sell to? Their ability to sell wouldn’t have been appreciably affected.

          • QuadGMoto

            “Hey, let’s help these thugs hurt our sales! What do we have to lose?”

            Do you see why I have trouble taking that idea seriously?

          • Jared Vynn

            Because you have no concept for economics? They take a small loss possibly in one state in exchange for not taking a larger loss in additional taxes/fees.

            Or like many others before them (see Colt) they made stupid decisions.

          • QuadGMoto

            Do you think Springfield is stupid about how such laws tend to spread to other states?

          • QuadGMoto

            I just checked the status of that piece of trash bill. As of July 6th it is no longer in the house, having been sent back to committee. As I understand it, the only reason such a carve-out existed was because the gun grabbers knew they could not get it passed as long as Springfield and RRA opposed it, which is what we just saw happen in the house.

            Why would the companies (not their lobbyist, who clearly had a different idea) agree to hurting their sales over an issue that they were clearly winning on? If you’re winning, why would you surrender in such a way as to hurt yourself?

          • Jared Vynn

            Why did Colt run themselves into the ground? Stupid management.

            Same thing in this case most likely.

  • Brad

    For the SAI supporters, this isn’t the first time Dennis Reese has pulled some shady schtuff. The SAI/RRA deal in the IL House is minor, legally, compared to his last stunt. Since we can’t post links, you’ll have to google “Dennis Reese El Salvador” and read the article by the UPI. How someone that pled guilty to bribery, tax evasion, conspiracy, and filing false statements can legally run a gun company is beyond me.

  • IMPRIMATUR

    Springfield Armory is dead to me.

    They have been sketchy since the beginning, using the historic “Springfield Armory” and pretending that they ever had any connection to it, then making their money by selling Eastern European handguns, etc. blah, blah, blah.

  • Bill

    This is the best free entertainment in town: conspiracies, 9 vs 45, 1911s, the whole schmear.

  • Shankbone

    When you poor, every day is a boycott.

  • Mrninjatoes

    I heard a rumor the FBI tested it with a 14 to 15 inch barrel…

    • thedarkknightreturns

      Could be, but all I know is that out of a duty sized Glock, it acts like an FMJ, even the 8″ MP5 barrels couldn’t coax some better performance out of that G2 stuff. We went through a “9mm phase” as an agency. We were considering going to Glock 17 and 19s, the argument was mostly based on cost. I (and others) pushed for some testing of our own to be done. We have had good results with our .357 SIG Gold Dots. The results spoke for themselves, and ended the brief flirtation with 9mm.

      • Mrninjatoes

        .357 sig is a badass round.

  • Mrninjatoes

    Nope. I work in the Industry and know a lot of people at Springfield.

  • USMC03Vet

    Springfield Armory stole my girlfriend and kicked my dog! Talk about some of the most pansy snowflakes of all time. The funny part being every single one of these commenters years from now will be owning Springfield Armory firearms just like they own Smith and Wesson, River, Troy, etc.

    Clowns.

  • ozzallos .

    ELITE. When GRIPZONE just isn’t enough.

  • st381183

    TFB don’t care ’bout no politics, or 2nd Amendment, or shooters, just shilling guns, thanks!

  • Nick

    Springfield Armory boycott aside, they need to fire whoever keeps putting stupid crap on their guns. The guy responsible for “Grip Zone” had to be the guy that decided to plaster “RO ELITE” on the rear of the slide like that.