BREAKING: GEMTECH Sold To Smith & Wesson

In a story that’s worthy of the ‘BREAKING’ tag, Massachusetts based firearms manufacturer Smith & Wesson has purchased Idaho Silencer manufacturer GEMTECH. With details slim at the moment, there are obviously a lot of unanswered questions. However, the new GEMTECH headquarters building in Meridian, Idaho is still on schedule as well as all current product development and manufacturing capabilities.

Rumors of the sale had been floating for a few weeks, but with the announcement now official, I look forward to additional information as it becomes available. GEMTECH has been a leader in the silencer industry for decades – a trend I’d personally like to see continue for years to come.

Gemtech Sold to smith & Wesson

The Official Statement from Ron Martinez, CEO of GEMTECH:

Gemtech, the World’s Leader in Silencers, now has the backing of the most powerful company in the firearms industry: Smith & Wesson. Combined with the outstanding companies of American Outdoor Brands Corporation, this strengthens the decades old team that is Gemtech.

About GEMTECH:

Gemini Technologies, known as Gemtech, began as a super group of already leading silencer designers with roots in the silencer business going back to 1976. With decades of experience, innovation, quality, honest business ethics and a customer first attitude, Gemtech has grown to the world’s leading silencer company.

 

Gemtech sold

About Smith & Wesson:

The accomplishments of Smith & Wesson are so numerous that it is impossible to understand the history of modern handguns without first understanding the history of Smith & Wesson. Smith & Wesson was an industry leader in 1852 when it was first founded and continues to lead the world today with innovations into the 21st century.

Smith & Wesson – Facebook

GEMTECH – Facebook



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  • I don’t believe Smith and Wesson has history of consolidation that Freedom Group has.

    • tankton

      S&W is not consolidating, they are diversifying!

      • I meant consolidating their purchases into one location. Like Freedom did in Alabama.

        • Louis C

          S&W did move Thompson Center to MA.

  • Spencerhut

    Two great companies. Wish them the best . . .

  • Well, if S&W ever wanted to move their HQ to a more friendly state, it looks like they’d have a shiny new building.

  • DanGoodShot

    Wow. Color me intrigued to see where this goes…

  • Kwong

    Proper use of BREAKING finally

    • Giolli Joker

      Why?
      It’s not a review of a Remington product…

      • Kwong

        To my knowledge of English language that would be just breaks, as in simple present tense.

        • Gary Kirk

          Broke

          • Jim Smith

            Story of my life.

      • Pete – TFB Writer

        Lol

  • Fartnose Zipperpants

    Seeing as how Ruger has created official silencers in the past few years, and this buyout, gives me hope on the HPA. There’s obviously backroom political discussion going on that we have not yet heard. It’s not like HPA was going to be passed overnight anyways.

    • I think you way over estimate the impact that gun companies have on politics. Even the largest gun companies aren’t that large in the grand scheme of things.

      The power behind the gun rights movement comes not from industry employment counts, but from the voters that vote the gun vote. Which is indirectly represented by NRA membership numbers.

      Look at the anti-gun laws that passed or attempted to pass in the last decade, the best that the industry lobbyist, NSSF, were able to get is carve outs.

      • Edeco

        I think the wealth of the industry is often overestimeted. Part of it is honest, I mean, yeah, huge numbas compared to my net worth. And part of it is rhetoric; pretend the pro-gun side is faceless death merchants and puppets to skirt the fact that real thinking, feeling human beings are pro-gun. End of the day though, the gun industry ain’t just printing money, they have to work metal and polymer…

        • Part of it is because outside of S&W and Ruger most gun companies are in private hands. So details of their financials, head counts, et al that are available to the general public are nebulous at best.

          Heck outside of the consolidated Freedom Group, most of the “large” gun companies have less than 200 employees. And taking into account the entire industry I am willing to bet a very large amount of them have less than 15 employees. That number is a keystone number because 15 employees is where ADA Title I compliance is mandated. You can considered a very small business below that employee count.

      • Audie Bakerson

        If people really want the HPA to pass, they need to pay attention to the upcoming primaries. Candidates will be making their candidacy official soon (or in some places like Arizona senate race or Ryan’s district already have) and primaries are the best place to get candidates to anwser the following
        1: Will you vote for Ryan/McConnel? (both are holding the HPA in committee and are generally not our friends)
        2: Do you support the HPA? (Duh)
        3: Will you introduce legislation to repeal the NFA? (this is the big one. They can say lots of things on both and do nothing with it, but this requires a specific provable action. For what it’s worth Dr. Ward and Paul Nehlen both say they will)

      • Flounder

        I would say that is true.

        EXCEPT for Ruger and Smith and wesson… One of which is the company in play here.

        I don’t know if they do or not, but both those companies have more than enough money to lobby on the same level as any pro gun organisation.

      • RetiredSOFguy

        I’m hoping that as gun companies get into the silencer business, they increase marketing (I would expect it) and education of those products, which will help “legitimize” them beyond the “tactical” crowd.

        My Dad never really thought about cans until I pointed out the joy of being able to hunt with one, and the light clicked on. When I talked about defensive use indoors he understood, but much less of an “ah ha” moment than when I talked about them for hunting.

        Anyway, I concur with your point, just wanted to add that as what I hope to be a beneficial effect.

  • Nick

    Remington bought AAC, Sig Sauer launched their own line of cans, and now S&W is buying Gemtech

    I’d say they all plan on HPA passing. There’s too much riding on it now.

    • Dan

      Don’t forget Ruger, they’re making their own integrally suppressed 10/22 barrel now and I’m sure we’ll see more. I agree with your logic and was thinking the same thing. It has to help the HPA to have even larger companies able to lobby for it.

    • KestrelBike

      It may also be true that those big companies found these much, much smaller companies that make silencers to still be profitable, so with all the cash they might have from the obama years, it still makes sense for these businesses to diversify even if the HPA never passes.

    • Theo Braunohler

      Ron Martinez himself (you know, the guy quoted in this article who is the CEO of Gemtech), was recently quoted as saying that HPA has zero chance of passing.

      • Holdfast_II

        Right, because he has absolutely zero economic interest in people buying silencers now instead of waiting in case the HPA passes? I would get more weight to a K Street lobbyist on this sense of someone who sells the items in question.

      • Matt Olsen

        If you are buying a suppressor company, you’ll day that to devalue the company and get the company for less.

    • I would say, any owner of a midsize firearms related business right now would be happy to sell before the next huge market slump fully sets in. For established companies with cash on hand, and current capital gains considerations, this is a buyer’s market. Lots of brands are going to be collapsing by this fall. Better to sell before you hit bankruptcy while your brand is still worth something.

  • James Young

    Good time to buy a suppressor company since they seem to be struggling right now.

    • 22winmag

      Good time to buy a senator and get your products legalized.

      • Sunshine_Shooter

        Its never a bad time to buy a senator.

        • Holdfast_II

          Lease or rent. They never stay bought.

          • Wood

            That’s not true. They’re all owned. It’s just the owners that change, not their bought status.

  • 22winmag

    With all this gun-muffler legal BS lately, you can pretty much bet someone knows$ something other people don’t know.

  • Anonymoose

    Coming soon: key-locked suppressors!

    • Friend

      Yup. I was thinking the same thing.

      To be completely honest, I think this is gonna go really, really poorly. Gemtech isn’t going to be anywhere as likely to innovate as they used to.

      • RetiredSOFguy

        I understand the sentiment, and maybe I’m biased (I learned to shoot handgun on a Smith and have also loved them) but it seems to me that S&W does a fair amount of innovation…scandium, factory model with laser grips, etc.

        But like I said, I’m biased so interested in any thoughts to that. Regardless, I hope it doesn’t change–was a big fan of GEMTECH when I was in, and now I’m actually getting into the NFA world so I’m hoping they don’t change.

        And to Anonymoose above…man, that made me laugh. Cried a bit on the inside too, but mostly laugh.

  • Haulin’ Oats

    Perhaps this buyout was a move by Smith and Wesson as an attempt to create their own competing version of SilencerCo’s Maxim 9 integrally suppressed handgun.

    • Flounder

      SW was pissed when the maxim 9 went to glock mags instead of an M&P frame. /sarc

  • tsh77769

    Maybe S&W can move its headquarters (or even entirely) out of Mass-ive-2-shits now.

  • Chris Cosby

    I was talking about this with someone else earlier. SW didn’t screw up TC, crimson, wheeler, golden rod, etc when they bought them did they? I mean they have bought up a few companies and I can’t recall hearing that much bad about it. Hopefully this makes gemtech stronger.

    Now if the HPA(or another bill that does the same) passes I see this as being a big deal. That gemtech ar-15 upper with integral suppressor? I see that being a new line of M&P rifles. I also see them making an upgraded version for the M&P 10. I can see victory pistols with factory suppressed barrels, maybe a tc compass with a suppressed barrel, etc. This could be a great way to get more money out of consumers.

    Now if the maxim 9 ends up doing well(I can’t say much, I bought one) I could see SW doing a M&P like it. That could be badass. I’ve loved to see a performance center version of that thing with a much nicer trigger(and I prefer the m&p grip).

    • 2012Viking

      They screwed up Taylor Brands and Schrade knives. After they bought them out they changed, at least 1 I know of but have heard of others, of the Schrade knives developed by an independent party and licensed as being designed by that person. They changed the composition of the metal as well as the type of edge on the blade making the new knives inferior to the previous iteration before Taylor Brands was bought by S&W. This was all done without the knowledge or consent of the knifes designer.

      • 2012Viking

        I hope they don’t cut corners with GemTech just to make it cheaper to produce, like they did with Schrade… and before anyone says it, yes I know Schrade are not high end knives but it was still shady bait-n-switch practice, what they did.

      • Ruger Shooter

        As soon as SW bought Taylor, I quit buying Taylor products.

  • RSG

    Too bad. With the recent release of Gemtech’s integrally suppressed upper, I was hoping that as an independent, they’d be releasing 1 stamp integrally suppressed barrels with an OAL greater than 16 inches. Now I’m less hopeful.

  • Giolli Joker

    Pete, this is for the suppressed revolver you were waiting for.
    Now you know to whom you should send your project.
    Suppressed .45 Model 3!

  • Blackhorse

    Convenient that S&W’s sell out in 2000 to the Clinton Administration on gun control is missing from the history.
    Just one more product I will never buy because of that traitorous act 17 years ago.

    • ostiariusalpha

      That’s holding a grudge longer than is entirely sane. S&W isn’t a giant living being that tried to conspire with the Clintons 17 years ago, it’s a company made of and run by ordinary people; and the people that did conspire to help gun control efforts were forced out a long time ago. I don’t buy new S&W revolvers because I don’t accept the stupid internal lock, not to keep punishing people who had nothing to do with an event from nearly two decades in the past. But whatever floats your boat.

      • Blackhorse

        That “stupid internal lock” was part of their Clinton ban agreement, which is still being used today.
        Seems their “deal with the devil” still has offspring and they haven’t fixed it yet.

        • ostiariusalpha

          Right, so don’t buy their revolvers. That was only a small part of what was involved in that gun control effort, and not much excuse to reject their suppressors (which aren’t used on revolvers anyways). If you want to stick it to S&W over the internal lock, then support the new Colt DA revolvers that are coming out.

          • Blackhorse

            Now I don’t tell others to boycott them and have helped others select their products to purchase.
            I won’t buy the silencers even if they were the best and most inexpensive models since it adds profits to S&W.
            At least they’re US owned but they still make money off that deal (internal lock), so they won’t make a dime off me.
            Now that Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms had done a S&W 2.0 deal with Illinois the list has gotten longer.

          • ostiariusalpha

            They’re not making any extra money off of the locks, that deal died with the previous S&W management.

          • Blackhorse

            I never said they made “extra money” off the internal locks.
            As long as they still sell pistols with that “internal lock” (which only exists because of that 2000 agreement and was installed after it was bought out) they’re making money from that deal..

          • Ruger Shooter

            Any brand owned by SW I will not buy. See my comment above about their latest cop out with New York State.

        • Ben Rogers

          That stupid lock is there because S&W was bought by a company that manufactures it (Saf-T-Hammer). The “agreement” also said Smith and Wesson wasn’t supposed to make any evil black rifles or hi cap mags. Have you looked at S&W catalogue recently?

          The agreement is DEAD and no one in charge of S&W now had anything to do with it.

          • Blackhorse

            Saf-T-Hammer stated after they bought S&W that they wad going to keep the agreement with the government.
            Not one of Saf-T-Hammer’s safety devices (Saf-T-Hammer and Saf-T-Trigger) was ever a success, let reached production on any firearm including S&W. That “internal lock” was designed by S&W engineers and patented by S&W not Saf-T-Hammer.
            Neither S&W nor Saf-T-Hammer have backed away from the agreement, matter of fact Saf-T-Hammer specifically stated they would honor the agreement after they bought S&W.
            Now 17 yrs later NY legislation on “child safety features” uses that same S&W agreement (what Ruger Shooter posted) to justify their new “laws” and their feasibility by the industry.
            S&W set a precedent that now the whole industry can be bludgeoned with.

            I really don’t give a rat’s *** who was in charge then nor now. They’re still selling the “sell out” guns with these “internal locks”.

    • Cymond

      Why not forgive S&W?
      S&W isn’t a person, it’s a company. You shouldn’t blame the brand name for the mistakes of long-gone executives.

      • Blackhorse

        If the ban had survived and S&W made enough profits from their “exclusive” position with government sales, they would of never changed their position nor apologized.
        PS obviously my boycott (and others like me) haven’t ruined their profits not survival.
        This is a free market and a customer can buy what they want and not buy for whatever reason. That includes their past decisions.

        • Ruger Shooter

          “In a historic agreement recently reached between Smith & Wesson and the Departments of the Treasury and Housing and Urban Development, Local Governments and States, Smith & Wesson agreed that, within a 12 month period, all of its handguns will be designed so that they cannot be readily operated by a child under 6. This bill will have the effect of ensuring that all handguns sold at retail in New York will meet the standards agreed to by Smith & Wesson.”
          SW can go hell.

          • Ben Rogers

            Um, “Ruger Shooter” remember Bill Ruger lobbying for a federal ban on the possession of hi cap mags? Why don’t you boycott them?

            Bill Ruger is dead and his company has run away from his anti-gun policies.

            S&W is under new owners who have repudiated the agreement (the lock is there now because the company was bought by a company that makes them.

            Boycotting S&W now no longer makes sense, esp for a Ruger fan.

          • MichaelZWilliamson

            The difference is, Ruger changed policies diametrically when Quisling died. Snitch & Wussy has not.

          • Blackhorse

            Wrong
            Saf-T-Hammer stated after the purchase they were going to keep to the agreement.
            The “internal safety” is a S&W design and patent and not by Saf-T-Hammer.

        • Cymond

          And in that case, the president & CEO would probably still have their jobs, too. But they don’t.

          Bill Ruger said & did some unfriendly things, but I don’t hold that against the modern Ruger gun company.

          As a child, I was taught that objects are not good or bad, it is what people do with them that is good it bad. It’s a stance that the firearm community would be wise to embrace.

          • Blackhorse

            This isn’t about an object. This is about a company that sold out a whole community for special treatment to go along with infringement on others rights.
            S&W (nor Saf-T-Hammer) has rejected the agreement nor discontinued their “sell out” guns.
            Ruger rejected their mistakes and has tried to do everything possible to prove they have changed. Unlike S&W/Saf-T-Hammer.

          • Cymond

            A company **IS** an object.
            Despite its complexity & size, it is nothing but a tool. It has no will of its own.

            You are right, though, that they have never spoken against their previous deal. However, the Ruger company hasn’t spoken against Bill Ruger’s comments, either. Instead, their actions show their new direction by directly contacting what Bill said about small guns, capacity over 10 rounds, etc.

            Although the lock remains, S&W also makes scary modern rifles and polymer wonder nines *with threaded barrels for suppressors*. For me, that’s enough penance for a mistake made by a different CEO over 20 years ago.

          • Blackhorse

            For starters I’ve never owned a Ruger, but let’s compare Ruger to S&W.
            Ruger (by letter) and SAAMI proposed a magazine ban of over 15 Rds (not 10 rds), instead of a assault weapons ban (which was proposed). This magazine ban ended up replacing the assault weapons ban that failed to happened.
            S&W made a deal to get preferred treatment from the government on sales for supporting an assault weapons ban and S&W doing specific things (the internal lock is just one). Plus S&W supported the “smart gun” program against everyone else, which they backed out of to help stop bankruptcy caused by the boycott.
            They both donate large sums to the NRA now and produce plenty of weapons contrary to both the magazine ban and assault weapons ban (after the law expired).

            Big difference.

            PS 17 yrs ago not “over 20 yrs ago”. Which doesn’t really matter but are the facts.

          • Cymond

            “the assault weapons ban that failed to happened.”
            I thought all this took place around the 94 AWB, I wasn’t aware of anything in 2000. I’m officially confused. Is this about state legislation?

          • Blackhorse

            Been busy at work.

            My bad, I even know the difference but for some reason turned the S&W “deal” (to stop the Clinton Administration law suit) into a “assault weapons ban”.
            Clinton had tried since 1999 to get more gun legislation passed and it was going nowhere in Congress, so he sued the gun manufactures with states and cities joining him.
            All the gun manufactures in the suit agreed to not settle separately andS&W broke that promise. The deal was more than Clinton wanted Congress to pass.
            Short list of the deal
            Trigger lock until internal lock can be built into new handguns.
            Child proof handguns with 10 lb trigger.
            New guns will have loaded chamber indicator, magazine disconnect, internal lock, can’t except older larger capacity (10+ rds) magazines, have 2 serial numbers (one hidden), firing pin block, minimum barrel length 3″, and sold with a firearms warnings and safety.
            The guns have to be tested by BATFE for accuracy, reliability, and drop tested.
            Have to be fired for ballistics data and once available casing ballistics. All recorded and sent to BATFE.
            2% of sales revenue (not profits) to be used on “smartgun” development and testing.
            1% of sales revenue on gun safety and violence prevention advertising.
            Have to support all future “gun safety” legislation.
            Then add in the new rules for any distributers and stores.
            Can’t sell import banned guns and accessories or new US manufactured. Plus the stores can’t sell legal pre AWB magazines or guns.
            Have to require the customer prove they’ve taken safety coarse, show them how to safely load/unload, transport/store, engage/disengage safeties, and properly dispose of guns.
            If a customer buys more than one handgun, they can only leave with one on purchase (after background check) and can’t get the rest till after 14 days (if still allowed).
            Can’t sell at gun shows unless everyone (even private sales) are made to do background checks.
            Has to get minimum of $1 million in insurance.
            Has to get all employees trained by BATFE on safety and how to recognize straw purchasers. Get recertification every year.
            Electric records on all sales, customers, and revenues.
            All in exchange for preferred sales to the cities, states, and government agencies signed to the agreement.

            S&W backed out of the “smartgun” part. Once Bush got elected they stopped most of the rest since Bush didn’t enforce it.
            Once the AWB expired they ignored it completely and it became moot anyways after Congress passed law to protect gun manufactures.

          • 2ThinkN_Do2

            Once again you are correct. The short lived AR ban that disappeared into the sunset is long gone history; why do people hang onto garbage . . . let it go (not you Cymond, the others).

      • Scott Goofus

        I can take my money and buy a weapon from a company with a totally clean pedigree, one that’s never had the taint of playing with the enemy, that’s why, and that’s what I do, regardless of the sh*thouse preachers here who presume to tell me what to do with my hard-earned cash. I have principles, and they don’t blow with the wind. I guess next year, Springfield and Rock River will hire a couple of new managers and everything will be hunky dory with them too, or is it that way now, in spite of their playing F your buddy in Illinois?

        • Cymond

          Next year? No.
          But I won’t hold a grudge for all eternity, either.

      • 2ThinkN_Do2

        Agreed, some people just like to be PO’d all the time, it supports their attitude. Personally, I’ve had Rugers, Sigs, S&W’s, RIA’s, Kimber and CZ’s. The Sigs had the most issues, and they were also the most irritating and serious. All the S&W issues were minor and fixed readily and have been fine since. Never had any issues with the built in lock failing and I use them when they are stored.

    • Spencerhut

      Anyone who holds a grudge that long over a decision made by people long gone has some serious personal issues they need to deal with.

      • Blackhorse

        I also refuse to by Springfield Armory and Rock Island Arsenal.
        Selling out a constitutional right for special treatment deserves bankruptcy and liquidation.
        Dont care how far ago it happened nor who is in control.
        We’re only debating this because the ban wasn’t renewed and that wasn’t for any help from S&W.

        • Scott Goofus

          Good man! There are companies that are friends to the 2nd Amendment and companies that are definitely NOT, and you named THREE in one posting. Too bad some don’t pay attention as you do. And call you names for doing so. But we know who the real knuckleheads are, don’t we?

          • Blackhorse

            I’m really going to miss buying Remington. But until they can prove they’ve made amends they won’t get one cent more from me.

    • Brett baker

      The company got sold after that, this is a different company, leadership-wise.

      • Blackhorse

        Still manufacturing revolvers with the “internal lock” they agreed upon in that Clinton deal.
        Seems it hasn’t changed enough.

    • Ruger Shooter

      Scrap & Worthless is still at it: In a historic agreement recently reached between Smith & Wesson and the Departments of the Treasury and Housing and Urban Development, Local Governments and States, Smith & Wesson agreed that, within a 12 month period, all of its handguns will be designed so that they cannot be readily operated by a child under 6. This bill will have the effect of ensuring that all handguns sold at retail in New York will meet the standards agreed to by Smith & Wesson.

      • Blackhorse

        To be fair, this new thing is the NY legislature using the S&W agreement from 2000 as an example these “child safety” features can be adopted by the industry. This isn’t a new sell out, but the same old one being used to bludgeon the industry with.

        • Scott Goofus

          To be fair? When was S&W fair to any one of us? Selling us out to the Marxists in NY? That was enough for me to say, so long S&W, same as with Springfield and Rock River. Traitors who won’t get one red cent from me.

          • Blackhorse

            Oh I agree.
            Just trying to make sure it’s based on real facts.

    • Scott Goofus

      Thanks for reminding folks of the traitorous folks at S&W. And if people are paying attention, there are more recent vile actions from S&W that should turn us all away. I’ve sure turned my back on them. And Spencerhut, you don’t pay attention, you just slavishly adore any company that puts a trigger on a piece of iron. Shame, that.

  • Sunshine_Shooter

    I’m afraid that S&W is about to follow the same path as Freedom Group. Hopefully S&W actually keeps those companies it has/is planning on buying as good as they were before being bought, unlike FG.

  • TheUnspoken

    Here comes the m&p can! And potentially the m&p 22 integrated barrel surpressed plinker carbine.

    The interesting cans (to me anyway) were the specialty cans like Uzi cans, 3 lug, ump, etc. They already didn’t seem to do runs of them much, I wonder if those types of cans will be gone for good.

  • John Richardson

    I’m not saying this story isn’t true. I suspect it is and it would be good for both companies involved. However, given this is a material event for a public company, AOBC aka Smith & Wesson would be required to post a news release on their website and file a 8-K report with the Securities and Exchange Commission. They have done neither. I suspect someone has violated their non-disclosure agreement and leaked the news.

  • SteveK

    Integral suppression is coming

    • Ruger Shooter

      Ruger just did it, 10/22 ISB.

  • Mr. Privilege

    Sweet! Can’t wait for them to add a Clinton Lock to their cans to keep me safe. Someone get a hold of NotoriousIUD and ask him what the blacks and gays have to say about this.

  • Paul Reavis

    Funny they use a picture of the one Gemtech can you haven’t been able to find in two years for the story. Thanks for reminding me that I still want a MK9K. This deal has been in the works for at least 2 years too. I was starting to think it fell through.

  • JohnnyG

    How is the consumer going to benefit from this?

  • ckeltz3

    Not good. Prices will go up, quality will take a dive. Thankfully there are plenty of other smaller companies making cans.

  • Dietrich

    Now if Smith and Wesson would relocate from the Soviet state of Massachusetts and move to the heartland, leaving MA with a lower tax base, taking their employees with them.

    • survivor50

      EXACTLY !!!
      They’d have to make an appointment at the Proctologist first…

  • Al Shartpants

    I don’t see this as a good thing. Ever hold a .460 or .500 S&W? What kind of idgits would use a standard sized grip on a very large pistol that needs a true man-sized grip? We don’t even need to get into their backstabbing.

    • 2ThinkN_Do2

      HUH?

  • carlcasino

    I don’t understand why S&W is still in Mass. Tradition or just love old buildings and that loves a Hostile Political environment ? HPA will become law and National reciprocity of Concealed carry will finally override State statutes. Thomas Jefferson opined that the constitutions of most of our States ( and of the US Constitution) asserts that ALL power is inherent in the people; that they [may] exercise it by themselves; that is their right and duty to be at all times armed. The next two SCOTUS appointments should yield Justices that have reading comprehension skills.

    • Scott Goofus

      Hate to burst your bubble, but HPA, National Recip and Concealed will pass as soon as Maxine Waters and Trump elope and Mitch McConnell becomes the first man to walk on the surface of the Sun. Why anyone is holding onto those fantasies is puzzling to me, although I understand the allure of hoping they pass. Just not gonna happen, since our wonderful RINO Congressional leaders – McConnell, Ryan, Songbird, Miss Lindsay to name a few off the top of my head – have a deep-seated hatred for the 2nd Amendment and are going to let those bills die a slow death in committees. I wish it weren’t so but name ONE THING they have actually accomplished, in spite of all President Trump’s efforts to get them to do something, ANYTHING. Restoring our gun rights is so far down the list it’s not funny. Sad, isn’t it?

      • carlcasino

        I’m forever the optimist. I didn’t think I would survive my experience during the Nam Police Action but Hope springs eternal that enough Patriots will awaken in time to oust the nit wits from congress.

  • Scott Goofus

    Since I refuse to do business with the ultra-shady S&W, looks like Gemtech will be off my list. Not a problem, as there are many fish in that sea.

  • Blackhorse

    Do you expect them to say anything else, once the news was out?
    Consider all the money their trade association (IFMA) donated to anti gun Democrats.
    Either this is the most incompetent two companies to let IFMA spend millions and sign agreements without either company reading the agreement first and authorizing the money, or they’re liars.
    Either way, still have to see what else unfolds from this.
    If they were mislead about the money and or agreement, they should have a legal case against the guy (supposedly responsible). Let’s see if that happens.

  • theoneshot1

    Please for the love of God quit calling these devices silencers. They do not silence a weapon except in Hollywood. Call them suppresses, Midas mufflers I don’t care but they DO NOT SILENCE A WEAPON. This pew, pew stuff might be funny in a meme but in the real world it is as disingenuous as calling an at 15 an assault rifle. Good grief nomenclature counts!