POTD: CZ Scorpion In Afghanistan

Silah Report posted a photo of an Afghan Commando with a CZ Scorpion. It has been painted but the spare magazines are not. You can see the old PEQ2 on the top rail. The light on the right side of the gun, looks to be a Surefire M962 three cell light. There appears to be another light on the other side but you cannot see it very well and the camo paint doesnt help.

This photograph appeared very recently on Afghan social media pages, showing two ANA Commandos in desert Tiger Stripe camouflage uniforms and most interestingly a 9x19mm CZ Scorpion submachine gun with corresponding magazine pouches. The submachine gun has a number of accessories mounted to the M1913 picatinny rails, such as the AN/PEQ-2 ATPIAL at the 12 o’clock position, what appear to be two sets of lights at the 3 o’clock and 9 o’clock positions, and what might be an Aimpoint M62 CCO red dot optic. The entire package was given a decent camouflage application that wasn’t applied to the spare magazines.

Judging from the amount of accesories, the lack of camafluaging spare magazines, and the overall presence of a submachine gun in an environment where it would not be very effective, my initial thoughts are that the ANA Commando who is armed with it, is a commander who is carrying the Scorpion as a status symbol. He isn’t actually engaging Taliban with it on combat patrols, but instead allows the weapon to signify his rank. The follow on question however, should be how it and the spare magazines got to the ANA. It would seem highly doubtful that it came through a U.S. supply line due to resources directed towards the ANA are already limited and at that are usually not afforded to such ineffective submachine guns in the battlefield that the ANA and Taliban often find themselves arranged in.



Nicholas C

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  • USMC03Vet

    20lb scorprion evo….

    I’ve seen it all!

    • BillC

      Nothing like bringing an overweight subgun to a rifle fight.

  • Maxpwr

    A fine firearm for when you’re in an eternal war over the same godforsaken rocks. My semi-auto version has been flawless so hopefully theirs is just as reliable in a sandy/dusty environment.

  • SerArthurDayne

    Oh the humanity. An afghan ‘commando’ wants to get his tacti-cool on. Give the freakin guy a break.

    • Vitsaus

      When a 40 something American accountant does it, its “being prepared.” When a foreigner does it, its “teh stoopidz.”

  • MeaCulpa

    Yes, that will tie an Afghan commando over nicely while he’s abusing human rights while waiting for a chance to “flee” to Northern Europe.

  • Malthrak

    Dude has enough gak stuck to that SMG to double the weight…what’s the point then?

    I love my scorpion, and it is interesting to see them in the field…but srsly dude?

  • Xtorin O’hern

    at first i thought “whats so exciting about a VZ.61 in Afghanistan i thought they had plenty of thoes” and spent at least a minute looking for one…

  • RSG

    Opium money can make almost anything happen.

  • glasspix

    German supermarket security guide.

  • Klink77

    This reminds me of a ANNA news report I saw from Syria recently. The Russian host, an ex SGT in the Russian Army, was looking at the AK variants and other rifles used by the Syrian Army. He spoke of how the most sought after rifle by the Syrian troops was the AK47SU due to its flashy more unique look. He reiterated that any real infantryman would be wise enough to dump a AK47SU for a standard length AK.

    • forrest1985

      That sounds similar to a documentary I saw on Spetsnaz in Afghansitan during 80’s. Those that were issued AKSU immediately began trying to source AKS74 or regular AK74

      • Chelovek RuBear

        And many Spetsnaz switched to AKMs as more ammo was available at enemy locations, vs what was provided at Russian army bases. Plus 7.62 is better in mountains…

        • CommonSense23

          Um 7.62×39 isn’t better in the mountains.

          • Art out West

            Maybe short range “in the mountains”. 🙂

        • Kulibin762

          The main reason high speed low drag Soviet/Russian units used and still use AKMS is because it can be suppressed.

    • Anonymoose

      You’re talking about the AKS-74U, and the reason it sucks is because the 5.45×39 cartridge needs to accelerate more in a longer barrel to be able to perform well, and the sights suck worse than regular AK sights (it still might be better than say an MP5). The reason everyone wants an AKS-74U is because Osama Bin Laden and other guys in the Soviet-Afghan War took them off of armor crews and helicopter crews they had shot down. There was never an AK-47SU or a real AKMSU- the only historical examples of AKMSUs are custom-built, one-off guns and not even Russian prototypes. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, Bulgaria has developed several models of milled AK47s brought up to modern standards, including a short-barreled, folding stock version of the AK47 called the AR-M4SF (the semi-auto version can be had in the US as the SAM7SFK). If you had an AR-M4SF you would not be outgunned at all, as the 7.62×39 performs still pretty good out of short barrels.

      • Klink77

        Thanks for correcting me. You are right, it was the 5.45×39 short barrel rifle that was in the news report. The interesting news in the report was that the majority of rifles used were 7.62 variants, however 5.45×39 variants were showing up in Syria too. The main problem with thte 5.45×39 AK’s in Syria though was limited ammunition available. According to that news report, a large majority of the ammunition used was all foreign made(Chinese, Russian, etc).

        It was a really interesting report. What’s most telling was how ISIS and others were using M16 variants in large numbers. I wouldn’t doubt these were some ex-Iraqi army trophies, but also could be from Turkey.

    • USMC03Vet

      But according to internet operators that swoon over SBR’s they are the ultimate in badassery.

      • iksnilol

        I tihnk you’d get much better performance if you put some optic on it, like a red dot.

    • BeGe1

      Yup. Small guns are status symbols over there.

      When I was training some people in the maghreb region we had M27’s that are Cadillacs compared to our other rifles…but none of them cared. They just wanted to shoot M4’s. Because it’s smaller…and smaller means status there.

  • Sam

    Note the dunz next to the scorpion armed operator. who can’t close or open his AK butstock.

    • iksnilol

      Not really, that’s done often so that you can open the stock more rapidly whilst carrying it folded.

      So not a dunz.

      • Gus Butts

        Pretty much. Having to remove the magazine to unfold your stock in a hurry isn’t that cool.

  • A.WChuck

    All of their gear and cloths look unused. I doubt they have been in training, let alone combat.

  • imachinegunstuff

    Is that a Linear comp at the end of the barrel?

  • Steve

    Don’t forget the flaming pig ‘hider’… or the world’s smallest suppressor.

  • Clinton Matthews

    Perhaps they’re cruising around inside vehicle behind them, or is the gunner on top of that vehicle. Looks like all new kit.

  • Raptor Fred

    How to camouflage the word camouflaging. “CAMAFLUAGING”

  • JW

    Anyone notice the Lowas those guys are wearing…..

  • Amplified Heat

    There are a number of odd factors (see other posters here) that seem to suggest this may not even a photo from Afghanistan

  • Ark

    In a country where the engagement distances are so far it has the Army serious entertaining the delusion of equipping everyone with .308 battle rifles again.

    Brings a 9mm carbine.

  • mig1nc

    PVS-7 and PEQ-2. I think that guy must have gotten first dibs on a DRMO deal.

  • John John Slade

    Also Afghan Commando still using Hungary AKD.