OPINION: Why I Am Selling My Guns And Why You Should Too

Selling my guns

Why am I selling my guns? Easy, I don’t have the money to be a serious collector and want to focus on firearms that I feel I can use to become a better shooter.

Don’t get me wrong, I envy those students of the gun that have the ability and time to track down that ultra rare thing and add it to their ever expanding collection. Sadly that is not in the cards for me as a poor blogger and new father. I guess I have made peace with the fact that I am never going to have a safe full of ultra rare things that others covet, but rather a safe full of well-used firearms that don’t get cleaned often enough and show good honest wear.

For nearly the last decade in America, we have been buying things based on a fear that we would no longer be able to acquire one of them in the future. This led to shooters hoarding record levels of gun parts and ammo without getting out to shoot them. Now that times have changed a bit, I feel that it might be a chance for shooters to shift some of that capital tied up in large collections to ammo, reloading equipment, better guns, training, etc.

I have decided selling my guns, about half of them at least, to redistribute the funds to other purchases that I feel will make me a better shooter if I devote the range time to them. So where I am going to spend that money? Good optics that will last the remainder of my life, a couple precision rifles, a ton of mags since they are consumables, some good range gear like holsters and a gun belt for competition, match entry fees, and maybe some classes from reputable trainers to help fix some of my bad habits.

The shift in the firearms market has changed my perspective on training and competition. For the longest time, I never saw the need for training until I became a better shooter and understood how much improvement I still had to make to consider myself competent in my own eyes. In fact, I used to give guys a hard time for spending money on classes. How wrong I was. Classes and competition here I come.  Maybe it is time to focus on skill and less on acquiring the next new shiny thing that pops up on the market.

So why should you take a more pragmatic approach to shooting? The simple answer is now that you no longer need to focus on what you might never be able to buy again and can concentrate on what makes the shooting hobby more enjoyable for you, selling off some of your less loved firearms and accessories might be the right call.

If collecting is your thing, now is a good time to snatch up some pretty good deals, who knows, you might end up with one of my old firearms. Like I said, if I had the financial means to be a collector and could keep myself from shooting beautiful examples of firearms into oblivion, I would.

I may be entirely wrong, but I feel like this is the time for the shooting community to make a shift from consumerism to skill building and maybe get more involved with local competitive shooting clubs.

What do you think? Is selling my guns a good idea or am I a fool?


  • Jeffrey Smith

    Ummm…. the absolute worst time to sell a gun is now. Had Hillary won it would be a very different story. Keep them until the next liberal gun grab and then sell. You are going to lose your ass selling right now. Buying guns right now would be a much better play.

    • Form Factor

      And individual isnt a company… He doesnt need masses of panic buyers. He needs just one or two individuals who might be interested for some reason.

      • Form Factor

        *An individual

      • Hanzo

        Yeah, and looking to get a good deal right now because prices are already dropping. It’s returning to a full-fledged buyers market, not sellers.

        • Chemechie

          if you are thinking about selling, sell now before prices drop further, especially on common weapons still made or on weapons that are ‘going out of style’, for example almost a FAL or almost anything in .40.

          • Hanzo

            I don’t think you understood my post.

      • supergun

        Exactly. Be patient. The right buyer will come along. They always do.

    • Kevin

      It’s speculation just like speculation on oil and gas. Sometimes you win sometimes you loose. He played it safe and bought his guns before the election. And there is no garante that prices will rise in the future. Maybe Trump will nominate another supremecout judge during his term. Maybe people will change their opinion on guns. Maybe more minorities will become gun owner. Maybe more gun owner will sell their stockpile. And these things can reduce the price of guns. It a common mistake to assume that prices will continue to fluctuate, just because it happened in the past, it’s called turkey logic.

      • Kjk

        Idk, the best indicator we have is the past. Cycles man, cycles.

        • Hanzo

          Gun prices are already dropping, it would be senseless to sell now, as you noted.

          • Kevin

            If prices are dropping that means you will get even less if you wait.
            People bought guns because they thought that Clinton would win, but she didn’t, now it’s time to cut your losses.

          • Hanzo

            What are you even talking about? Prices have already dropped, have you checked lately? Just let it go.

        • Kevin

          That’s turkey logic: A turkey thinks that the farmer will feed him every day because the farmer feed him the day before and all the days before that. The turkey doesn’t realise that there are more factors like a certain holiday.
          You are making the same mistake.

          • Zack mars

            You mean a factor like an election?

          • Kjk

            But you’re not acknowledging the fact that the turkey did in fact get fed daily for months prior to that one holiday.

          • Kevin

            And then the turkey got eaten. The equivalent would be making a small and steady profit, before your investment goes up in smokes.

            The other thing is that even if the price of firearms only stagnates You still loose money because you could have invested it in someting else. It’s called opportunity cost.

      • Hanzo

        Yeah, and he paid a higher price than guns are in current market reflection, already. Best to keep and wait, as OP stated.

        • Dakota Raduenz

          Actually, he said “I didn’t panic (buy) a single one of them”

          And something about any money lost would be miniscule, because he has non-AR guns and such, and did not pay a premium on any of them.
          You were saying?

    • Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad

      If you bought guns for the purpose of reselling following Hillarys victory then you made a poor investment. Youre screwed whatever you do. If you sell, you take a loss. If you hold on to them until the next scare, you have your money tied up in an unpredictable investment for an unknown number of years that will probably eventually pan out, but it wont be worth near the capital and time you have invested in it. At this point you may as well just sell and cut your losses, and, as the author wrote, spend your money on making yourself a better shooter.

      If profit is your main motivator, Id still say sell your guns and put your money into something else.

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      • Norm Glitz

        Did you even read the article?

        • Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad

          I read the comments section

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    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      When it comes to a literal lack of space and no desire to own some of the things in my safe, that isn’t a concern of mine. I never panic bought a single one of them so if I loose any money it is going to be minuscule.

      I have bought several guns just for TFB and now they sit, time to cull the herd. Am I ever going to take a Mauser M2 to he range again? No. I don’t even buy 40 ammo. How about that near mint Colt Police Positive? No. That belongs in someone’s collection.

      Several people fail to realize that I review at least 2 firearms a week plus whatever gun thing I have to review. Hat leads to buying things to fill holes in the schedule, borrowing a lot, and far too many things in my safe at one time.

      Me downsizing has nothing to do with being in need of cash but it has everything to do with a lack of space. I litteraly have an entire bedroom in my home and most of my garage dedicated to gun junk and have decided it is time for spring cleaning.

      • Jeffrey Smith

        Makes sense, go for it and take what you can get. It is rough out there selling guns right now.

      • Guns Fore Cats

        For the love of all that is holy, NO! Keep them sell your wife, sell your kids, but keep your firearms.

        • Trust No One

          Good advice. You kids will eventually leave, thus you whole investment will be lost. OR worse NOT leave!
          As for the wife v firearms. 20, 30, 40 years from now your firearms will look and work the same as they do now. Can you same about your wife?
          [Name withheld to protect ME. Getting wive’s & GF’s interested in shooting has it’s benefits, but an often overlooked danger of getting wives and GF’s interested in shooting is they are armed.]

      • A guy named Joe

        Ask yourself this question as I was asked and then had to ponder.
        This was taught to me by a dedicated organizer who does this professionally to stop hoarding. You need another person with you that you trust.
        She or he will ask you. “Does this make you happy?” “Will it ever again make you happy?” Yes…and then give a story..
        No……it goes onto the side to sell.

        If yes…you need a good story with it.
        It has worked wonders in my collection and it helped me thin my collection to what makes me happy.
        My m11 lage FA makes me happy, my m16 makes me happy for example. My MG42 made me happy once but after fixing all of the issues with it and only bringing it out once or twice a year to the range instead of the farm to shoot, it didn’t make me happy anymore.
        End of day, congrats and good on you with priorities.

        • Trust No One

          The hard part is seeing into the future. “Will it ever make you happy?”.

        • David Silverstein

          I’d end up selling my furniture and my house and be left with nothing but guns and gun parts.

      • undeRGRound

        Patrick, that’s a great answer, I was gonna come in here and say the same thing as Jeffrey, but with the eclectic arms you mention, and have mentioned in some of your videos, (you are the gentleman on the left side of the screen, correct?) I know that you will do fine, maybe make a small profit as the less common stuff is not as subject to current market forces. Godspeed, my Man!
        I like all the vids I have seen of you two fellows, very well done.

        I myself have “culled the herd” but replaced the newer poly-gun stuff with “real firearms” for the most part, and newer items that definitely hold their value. I also build ARs so that is a better way to make out to the positive, than buying a ready built one… 😉 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cebd77245ff4a41a21c9c8b6aa988f0629553d7bf4d909c7f0d9b27ebbcc62b7.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/72513038397aced8168e93a3931bbdf0c36bed65dc9334ac95ba06e2968f587d.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7f943f182a20c93166b22a150716bff0ff6d0b7dd84401e0754ead8c79b4aadf.png

        My A2 Clone, AR-9 Glock/Pistol, and Yugo M70 are just a few that are likely worth just as much as I have in them.

      • Jon

        The problem is, that’s not how you wrote the article. “we have been buying things based on a fear that we would no longer be able to acquire one of them in the future” and now I’m selling is a far cry from my job has made me buy too much crap and now I can’t store it.

        • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

          Did I say that I had been buying things based on fear? No. I said WE, as is the gun community.

    • supergun

      Prices will be even lower in the coming summer. One thing obama did really well, the only thing he did good, was to get Americans to buy a ton of firearms and ammo. He was the gun industry’s hero.

    • Aurélien Morel

      Don’t you mean “liberal electoral win”? There has been no “gun grabs” so far. Honestly you should have sold everything the week before the election.

  • CharlesH

    I’ll take 10

  • John

    If it were up to me, unless I was seriously hurting for cash, I wouldn’t sell, I would just stop buying for a while.

    • Form Factor

      But if you have some less loved, rather unreliable, or just unspecial guns that you dont use eighter way, why not just transfer them (sell and use the money) into new equipment you actually use and like a lot.

      • Form Factor

        As example some lame low quality pistol caliber carbine. Not needed if you have a better one.

      • Rick O’Shay

        It doesn’t sound like he found himself with a safe of less loved, rather unreliable, unspecial guns. He insinuated that the guns he’s considering getting rid of were bought in a panic, and now he’s regretting it. Not just that, but his financial circumstances have changed, and he seems to be justifying funding what he wants to do, by selling panic purchase guns. There’s nothing wrong with any of that, but I prefer honesty over “AND YOU SHOULD TOO.”

    • John

      I agree, plus there is no reason why you can’t both collect/enjoy different guns you like AND get better with them through competition or range time.

  • Rick O’Shay

    If you don’t *need* to sell the guns (as in, you’re not in dire financial straits), don’t sell them. There couldn’t be a worse time to sell. If you’re talking about reallocating funds that normally would have gone to new gun purchases, then yes, by all means shift your focus on how you’re spending the money. Especially if you’re satisfied you already own the guns you want/need for your purposes.
    If you want to improve the setup of certain firearms by upgrading components, you’re much better off just saving up and upgrading as you go. Selling other firearms (at a loss, no less!) to accomplish that is just a fool’s errand. As a father of five, believe me when I say I feel your pain. I have a massive wishlist of firearms-related wants, from training to upgrades to ammo quantities to reloading equipment to unicorn firearms. But it’s the sacrifice you make, and only you get to decide your priorities.

    • Chris Cosby

      I agree with the above. The market is down right now, I wouldn’t be selling much right now.

    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      It isn’t stock man. They are common firearms that I am not going to lose much of anything on. I am not an investment purchaser, most of my guns get used and abused.

      • Rick O’Shay

        Then go for it, I guess. I personally wouldn’t. But I’m a firm believer in people doing what makes them happy or brings them their own satisfaction, so if that’s what you want to do, go for it.

        edit: I read your comment explaining your gun situation elsewhere, jeez dude you’re a gun hoarder. Let some go.

        • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

          Pitfalls of the job I guess.

  • JZ

    To echo the other commenters, I agree with your sentiment but now is not a good time to sell guns, at least as far as black rifles & polymer pistols are concerned. It’s a buyer’s market.

    • Kevin

      There is not gurantee that prices will rise again. It’s foolish to assume that prices will rise again just because it happened in the past. If speculation was that easy, everyone would get rich doing it.

      • Doug73

        Yes, there’s a guarantee that prices will rise again. It’s even built into our economic system. It’s called “inflation”. Heck, I’m STILL sitting on some cases of AK ammo I bought for $99.

        Inflation aside, the gun market is cyclical. Just like most other markets. While nobody can predict when the next cycle will begin, it will surely begin at some point. In addition, the gun market is VERY sensitive to political/cultural events. If we have another mass shooting that makes Sandy Hook look almost trivial in comparison, there WILL be political pressure to “do something”. And predictably, gun owners will clean out everything that isn’t nailed to the shelves (all while complaining about mythical “price gouging”; an economic anti-concept.)

        You have more faith in both gun owners and our political economic system than I do.

        • Kevin

          There is something called “Opportunity cost” and it more than offsets inflation.
          If the gun market is like most other markets, why is it so hard to make money in other markets? There is no such thing as free money. You can’t turn a bad investment into a good investment just by waiting. If something fluctuates between A and B, that doesn’t mean it will continue to do so. Turkey logic

          If Trump replaced a liberal SC judge with one that actually reads the constitution, people will stop scare buying.

          And what if an armed teacher stops an shooter? What if studies prove that CC reduces crime? Isn’t that pretty much what we belive? What if the hearing protection act passes and barrels with fixed suppresor housings(because 16″ barrels) become all the rage? Or if suppresor become the next target of scare buys.

          If any of these things happen prices will go down and not only will you get less for your guns than before you will also have the opportunity costs.

          Duh, having faith in gun owners is the foundationof the 2nd. I belive that law abiding people have the right to keep and bear arms, because they are rational. And the reason we had scare buys was because Obama praised the autralian gun and had a habit of ruling with pen and phone.

          I am not telling you to sell your guns, but you are using turkey logic.

    • mmyers08

      Friend of mine owns a gun shop. Manufacturers are DESPERATE to sell. Ruger is blowing their AR-556s out at a loss per unit. A substantial loss just to get them out of the warehouse.

      Smith and Wesson running a buy 4 Shields get one free special to FFLs, and they’re giving them a bunch of magazines for free with the order.

      Companies were running 24/7 for a long time before the election. Have you seen some of Palmetto State Armory’s sales lately? How about an AR-15 and an XDS for $799?….

      • David Silverstein

        Don’t kid yourselves. These companies aren’t losing money. They might take hits here and there, but it’s calculated as a way to make more money. $799 for 2 guns is a good price in today’s economy, but 30 years ago you could have picked up 2 nice guns for half that.

  • Tim

    Not exactly a “seller’s” market, is it? I’d say you missed it by about 5 months.

  • Johannes von’ Strauch

    Verry interesting article indeed. Well written Patrick.

    • Said no one ever

      • Johannes von’ Strauch

        Huh, what does that mean? (not native)

        Im just appreciating that people put some actual thoughts in an article, instead of to just copy news about some random gun that came out.
        His acticle speaks about an interesting time/ situation.

  • Holdfast_II

    The next election is only 4 years away (well, a bit less). We’re having a nice pause right now, but it won’t last. Right now is the perfect time to buy a crate of lower receivers and stash them away (sadly I can’t do that, since they are already effectively illegal for me. I should have done that in 2012 – don’t be like me, living with regrets).

  • RSG

    If they are in your safe, they are just “used” guns. Unless rare with hang tags, make sure you bring a rubber duckie to your bath. And just because the pressure isn’t currently on our gun rights today, doesn’t mean things won’t change in the future. Don’t ever take it for granted. Put the kid on a diet instead. Ration formula and diapers.

  • Harry’s Holsters

    I think you’re smart. As someone who has to buy a lot of different guns for business purposes I find myself owning a lot of stuff I don’t really care for and don’t have time to shoot. Skills are way more important than the guns themselves and know one can buy there way to being a better shooter. I wish my collections was simpler.

  • gunsandrockets

    The answer to the question is deeply political, therefore I really can’t give a detailed reply if I want to abide by the TFB ethos.

  • Some Rabbit

    I bought and sold a lot of guns in my life. Looking back, it seems like the ones I sold I wish I had kept. And the ones I kept, I wish I had sold… Regrets, I have a few.

  • idahoguy101

    I had bought numerous police trade in pistols. Expecting after a Hillary victory I could sell at a profit. I am not complaining about Trump’s election to president. Or the pro Second Amendment victories at the State level. But as happy as I am I’d like to get my investment back. Any ideas?

    • alex archuleta

      If the pistols you bought are .40 cal switch out the barrel to a 9mm. Patrick has an excellent video on here how to do it.
      It’s a drop in part and since 9mm is en vogue you have an easier time selling it rather than a .40.
      Or something along those lines.

      • SWRancher

        Unlikely to recoup the cost of a decent quality conversion barrel when selling.

      • Surly Old Armorer

        That’s an excellent way to turn a $350 pistol and a $125 conversion barrel into a $250 unreliable trailer-park special.

    • Dr Duke (not David)

      Do you have any 9mm S&W’s made of metal?

  • Don Ward

    So in other words you’ve made the mistake of buying high and are now selling low.

    My condolences.

    • Form Factor

      “Mistake”? Is he supposed to know the future?

      • Don Ward

        Yes. Actually. As an adult making financial decisions, particularly with expensive big ticket items like firearms, making mature decisions with your capital is kind of an important thing. But this is a common refrain for males, particularly males in their twenty-somethings who go out and spend all of their disposable income on fun toys and when grown-up responsibilities come around, they are then forced to part with those toys. And usually they are forced to part with them at a significant loss. This isn’t a malady that just afflicts gun owners. You see it with guys spending money on cars. Or motorcycles and dirtbikes. Or fancy rockclimbing gear. Or whatever.
        The point is one should be able to prioritize their budget in the first place so one isn’t then “stuck” with a surfeit of toys that he no longer needs when reality hits.
        Knowing the future isn’t hard. Particularly when others have made similar decisions.
        Also, knowing the future isn’t hard since Trump was going to beat Clinton and that was quite evident to anyone who had an ounce of political knowledge like myself. Which is why I laugh at everyone betting against America by loading up on surplus weapons expecting a panic buying frenzy when Hillary won.

      • Anomanom

        The “mistake” is, perhaps, buying into a hype (or a panic, in this case) propagated by people who want to sell you something. It’s like y2k again. Or those people who say the economy is going to tank and tell you to buy gold bricks. Except you can’t eat drink or smoke gold bricks, so they won’t have much, if any value after a financial (or other) doomsday.

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    I say its totally up to you.
    You probably wont get Obama pricing now but if you want something new or just need to free up some cash you cant wait four or eight years.
    Sh-t, have fun while you can. We may be lobbing nukes soon.

    • Form Factor

      Correct, why wait dozends of years just for a few more dollars, and… its quite possible that then the firearms he wants to sell because they just arent so special are much less interesting to even the average consumer in serval years.
      With time also standarts do slowly rise.

  • m-dasher

    soooo…pretty much you panic bought….are regretting your purchases…..and now are trying to unload the 20 ARs you bought, along with everyone else who panic bought?

    i mean hell, you could have just paid me $20 to kick you in the nuts……wouldve been cheaper

    • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

      Nope, just don’t have room in the safe and a lot of unused guns. I probably won’t sell a single AR.

  • pablo4twenty

    Unless you’re going to be able to fetch $500+ after taking the time and expense to list, sell, pack, and ship a gun – why bother?

  • Buy high sell low wut?

  • 22winmag

    I’d sell much of my collection if the market was better.

    Besides, if the dung really hit the rotary air mover, there would be millions once-dropped rifles and pistols available for free (or a cigarette).

    • Kevin

      “if Market is better” means when there is another panic buy. And you propably won’t sell your guns when there is another assult weapons ban lurcing behind the corner.
      free guns during shtf? that is pretty much the opposite of what shtf looks like.

  • Al Wise

    Limited resources? Welcome to the real world. Man up. Most of us are never going to have a Ferrari in the garage or a helicopter on the patio. It’s called Life. You have other obligations and responsibilities.

  • Which ones are you selling?

    • He can’t really say on here.

      • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

        Sure, I can’t say on here. I can say on my Instagram though. Muahahahaha!

  • DanGoodShot

    Buyers market right now. Not good for a seller. Unless what you’re talking about is just a bunch of plastic pistols, then no, it’s not going to make much of a difference. Sell em’.

  • Kjk

    “You should too.” Okay dude. Lately it seems Patrick is going through a weird dickish phase. 2 weeks ago making fun of ppl buying “crappy” gear and now everyone should follow his lead and sell stuff they bought irresponsibly. Maybe shouldn’t have bought stuff you didn’t need like those ppl in your article 2 weeks ago.

    • Edeco

      He and Nathaniel F seem to have developed tastes for iconoclasm.

      • Dan

        Nathaniel F at least puts knowledge and research behind what he tries to tell us. Patrick is just talking out his ass.

        You should sell your guns now because times have changed. Yeah maybe for now they have. Should i also sell my car during the summer and buy a bicycle because its nice out? Should i forget the sub zero weather that will return?

        Next he’s going to tell us all how being as tall as a garden gnome makes you a better shooter. And stop waving at the camera in your videos, you look awkward as hell.

        • mmyers08

          Hmm. Sell my guns and pare down to a bare minimum? Nope. I only buy guns I’m going to use, and I don’t buy a lot at one time. With the exception of a couple, all my pistols get carried on a regular basis(in rotation). Rifles? I’ve never understood the need to have multiple AR-15s for one person. ONE rifle is enough.

          And if you are someone who bought at the peak of the market hoping HRC would get elected and you could sell at even more of a profit, I am glad you’re sitting on money losers. These are the same people who were stockpiling .22 ammo for years, driving up the prices and drying up the supply. I remember a Hoss USMC video where he was showing of tens of thousands of rounds of .22.

          You’re right about Patrick. Easily the worst videos on the site. Ping-ping-ping-miss-miss-pingpingping as the camera focuses on his “I’M SO OPERATOR” expression….

          • Surly Old Armorer

            Stop whining about “hoarders” because you were too lazy ad too cheap to buy when ammo was cheap and plentiful.

            Instead of buying a bulk-pack box of .22 for $12 every week, you shoved your head in the sand and assumed that it would always be available, and always be cheap. And when it stopped being cheap and available, you thought you were somehow ENTITLED to cheap and plentiful ammo, even though you’d done nothing to support the manufacturers when times were good.

            The only person to blame for your lack of foresight and planning is YOU.

    • Don Ward

      Yeah. The whole “You should too” really was garbage level posting but I assumed someone else wrote the headline. Either way, it is a bit hubristic that just because the author has made bad financial decisions while impulse buying guns he hasn’t properly researched and is now bored with them that somehow all gun owners must winnow their stock.
      As a counter, my last firearm purchase was my AR build and I bought it by saving money which I would have spent on eating fast food and buying a morning latte. It took me 18-months but if was worth it. And I only spent money that would have gone to disposable purchases.

  • Bill

    I’ve adopted a one-in one-out model, at least for handguns. Any new handgun is partially funded by the sale or trade of something I no longer shoot or need.

    • Tassiebush

      I think that’s a really good approach to managing the money side of it. Keeping the financial scale right. Who gives a rats about selling at the right time if you don’t have a heap of guns you don’t actually want/use.
      You control the scale of any financial losses. You ensure you pick quality and avoid impulse buys and you tailor it to actual regular usage needs.
      Unless we consider ourselves gun investors then that’s probably a good way to go.

  • Hoplopfheil

    I’m a collector/shooter hybrid. Every gun I own is shootable, but also intrigues me from a design or historical standpoint.

    So I would never want to sell because I already have the things I want (not that I don’t want more of them).

    If you have guns you don’t want, because you’re not really about the collection aspect, shuffle them off and invest in the things you use regularly. Nothing wrong with that.

    But never sell something you like!

  • PBAR

    Probably anyone who owns several guns probably has a couple of “mistake/regret” guns, i.e. guns you bought before you really knew what you were doing or for purposes that never panned out. I have a Steyr SBS-96 .308 rifle that I bought over 13-14 years ago as I had intended to start doing some hunting. Well, several years overseas and other life occurrences later, I’ve only shot it once. It’s the only gun I own that is worth less now than what I paid for it. All in all, I have it and a couple other regret guns that I’d like to sell just so I have more room in my gun safe. However, I’ll probably hang on to them as the market is so soft right now along with the Surefire 100 round quad-stacks I bought in anticipation of Hillary’s election.

  • Edeco

    It’s a personal choice. The Stones drummer Charlie Watts collects cars but never drives them. Weird! Other hand a champion trap shooter like Kim Rhode must put tens of thousands of rounds thru one or two guns. Not my idea of fun either. I’m in between, want to own a few guns and shoot most of them regularly, in volumes of hundreds of rounds per sesh.

    I’m relatively po’ but that doesn’t necessarily mean own fewer & shoot more. Figure money spent on ammo is consumed, but money spent on firearms can be recovered, to some extent, by selling, if need be. It’s complex, I don’t overthink it, just try to derive joy from the activity like a masturbating monkey.

    • Norm Glitz

      Ah yes, but Kim has six medals won in six consecutive Olympics. Second place is four. And … she drives a bright red Cobra replica.

      Beats all of us including Charlie Watts.

      • Edeco

        I like athletes with long careers. It’s interesting from a technical standpoint, pleasant, compared to sad cases like Refrigerator Perry, and romantic. I don’t know how people can get excited about “this years’ draft picks”, unless they know them personally. Most will come and go, a few will end up incarcerated. Pfft.

        When Randall Cunningham, in the twilight of his career, took the field for Dallas I was like “Squee!”

  • Cal S.

    I see where you’re coming from. I think I’ve got the right amount right now. I’ve got enough for me, my future wife, and maybe one for a teen kid. We’ll see.

    However, as an instructor, having extras comes in handy anyway.

  • Laserbait

    Do as you wish, not as others feel. Only you can decide if that decision is right for you.

  • Gary Kirk

    For every one I manage to bring myself to get rid of.. I seem to wind up replacing it with 3 or 4 more.. It’s a disease yes, but one I don’t really mind..

  • YZAS

    I’ve too thought about ‘downsizing’ a bit and directing that funding and time to training and finishing up/topping off my last few open projects. But reality (as others have said) is that now is the worst time to sell. I’d get bottom dollar. So the ‘extra’ stuff is going to sit there queued up for awhile. I think we’d be a little foolish to think ‘it’s all over’ and ‘they’ will never come back trying to grab our guns again.

  • TheInfamousMcLopez

    Been doing what Patrick has been doing for about 8 years now. Selling off guns that don’t fit a purpose/role and using that money to streamline my ammo stock and kitting up the working guns I use (better optics, triggers, slings, lights, furniture, internals, etc.).

    While I have a fraction of the firearms I used to have in my twenties, the ones I do have are far more suited for actual usage. They’re all working guns that fit a particular role.

    As a pure pragmatist, this reshaping of my battery is part of my own decision-making paradigm. I’m not about to tell you what you need (ever) or what you should do. That’s your bed to lay in.

    The whole “…why you should too” modifier at the end of the title is too much clickbait for my liking…and really since people own firearms for a myriad of reasons, you gotta figure out your own needs.

    For those that wonder, my decision-making paradigm is a simple two step affair:
    1. What is the primary role the will firearm fill–pick/build/upgrade to the best suited to that role.
    2. What is my budget to get it to that role or (if I don’t yet have said firearm) to purchase a firearm and get it there.

  • Keiichi

    inb4 he’s a collector looking to reverse-psychology folks into selling what he wants for cheap…


  • VF 1777

    You would be doing us a favor if you let us know how the selling goes, Patrick.

    I estimate for the few things that I would like sell right now, I’d be LUCKY to get 35% of my cost back. I can’t get myself to do it. Oh, and the ‘extra’ ammo? Ha, I guess I have a lot of ‘free’ range trips in my future.

  • Tyler McCommon

    I sold off a majority of my collection prior to the election to do exactly as you describe. I got most of my money back but unfortunately for you at this current time you’d probably at best get 1/2 of what you spent back. If I were you and you aren’t in dire financial need I’d hold off for now as the gun market is over saturated.

  • jayHu

    haha, I guess Obama really was the best gun salesman of all time, huh? That oughta teach those liberals hoplophobes a lesson – want to sell a WHOLE BUNCH more guns and ammo? Just try your gun grabbing stuff again. Even just THINK about it and shoot your mouth off and you’ll sell another 10 million guns in the blink of an eye. You’re better off just slinking back into the woodwork whence you came and keeping your mouth shut. Hell, if you would have kept your damn mouths shut and grubby little hands off our guns, chances are you’d have your lovely queen hillary to worship right now. Suck on that lollipop for awhile.

    But if there’s one thing we can count on, it’s liberal anti-gun zealots not giving up the ghost. They’ll be back…

  • Rob

    I pretty much regret every gun I ever sold. These days my safe is like a roach motel. Guns check in and they don’t check out. Lol. My kids are going to inherit an arsenal.

    • Gary Kirk

      “Welcome to the gunsafe California”..

      • James

        Sadly, most of my collection wouldn’t be approved by the Gestapo there in CA.

        • Gary Kirk

          I live in friggin Maryland.. And most of mine wouldn’t be either.. I feel for our poor compatriots stuck out there..

        • David Silverstein

          People actually ask for approval? If I were stupid enough to move there, the state would never know what I own. Some of them might even stay in a better state for safe keeping.

      • Gary Kirk

        This was meant to be a play on the Eagle’s song “Hotel California”..

    • Mick Finn

      That’s what I came here to say. I sold one gun and regret it. Never again.

    • David Silverstein

      I agree. I have only sold a couple, but I regret those sales. One of them, I have to admit I regret buying in the first place, but after I had it I should have just held onto it.

  • Tassiebush

    Looking in from outside it seems like the USA market is really lively with ups and downs depending on the political situation but I’ve no idea of how much the value fluctuates by or how much money you have tied up in the current collection. A lot of guns will inevitably lose value and never sell for more than you paid for them regardless of what patience you exhibit. A small number will grow in value.
    But putting that aside and I think streamlining your collection to a smaller number that you’ll actually use is always a good move. Absolutely cash in the stuff you don’t use to support the purchase of what you do need/want. Those guns, optics and consumables that you use and enjoy in the longer term will never be the waste of resources in your collection.

  • TennTexan

    You can ALWAYS count on liberals to advance anti-gun legislation. Just because the immediate threat to our rights appears to be over for the moment, rest assured it will rear its ugly head again. That said, your guns are your property, so sell them if you want. I won’t be selling any of mine, though.

    • datimes

      Liberals NEVER quit. W. Wilson pushed for 0bamacare 100 years ago and the Democrats never let up for a century. Sooner or later they always get what they want. Too bad the opposition doesn’t have 1% of their determination.

  • ton

    i don’t collect either, and stopped caring for all the polymer wonders and 1911 cousins flooding today’s market.

  • BrandonAKsALot

    Unless you’re into the commbloc world of guns. They are already pretty limited and never seem to become more so. Hell, now Molot is going under, within 3-5 years we’ll have no Russian guns coming in at all. Arsenal, Cugir, and Zastava will be all that’s left. With the slow death of parts kits, it’s going to really suck in the next several years.

    • Gary Kirk

      Yeah, I (though not really a big fan) really want a nice Ak/AKM, but alas, live in MD so screwed on that front.. Missed my chance, cause all anyone had over here were century or some other junk..

  • ironked

    I keep saying, “No more guns for now. The cabinet is full. You’re working more than shooting”. Yeah, sure. Then, like today i visit the electrical supply store that is right next to one of my favorite gun stores. No harm visiting. I didn’t buy anything (yet), but the used rack had 3 shotguns I want and a very cool Chinese Mosin carbine with a beat up stock. Sweet project. All for cheap. And the salivating starts all over. It seems there are a lot of people starting to do what Patrick is. I’ve seen several in there the past couple of weeks. The sad part is they want to get almost new value when a new piece of the same model is sitting in the case 5 feet away for only $50 more (or in the case of S&W and Beretta rebates, less than they want). I’m glad I held off and built my ARs, saving a bundle, and only bought odd and used pistols while everyone was scrambling for expensive new. Everything I have is unique (except for the Glock) and the way I want it.

  • Scott

    Aside from the black rifle price slump, I think it’s a good plan. Keep the best, improve the ones you can. Train and shoot more – and have FUN doing it.

  • CS

    As a Gun Blogger and Writter, you need these tools for work; I’d suggest writting it all off on your taxes before its too late. Otherwise, keep it; a new gun panic is just around the corner.

  • codfilet

    The current political situation is only temporary. In a few more years, unrestricted immigration will make Republicans a powerless, minority party. You’re foolish if you think otherwise.

  • Gregory

    A fool and his guns are soon parted.

  • Sledgecrowbar


    “new father”

  • Raptor Fred

    Sell what ever you don’t shoot and or, has no appreciating or collectors value. Magazine and caliber commonality are a fantastic asset. Learn to reload, collect your brass, buy a Dillon. Go shoot. Take classes. Shoot more. Run guns in USPSA, 3 GUN, IDPA (LOL) what ever. Are you the master of your weapon system? Or are you just some guy looking for attention because you own something?

  • MrBrassporkchop

    From my understanding “collector” guns are at a high right now. So it’s not as bad as if they were any average gun.

    Beyond that, yeah I totally get it. I love my guns but I don’t shoot what I got nearly enough. Came to the conclusion that I was going to cut myself off after I got a 22 pistol.

    Buying guns is addictive. Too many people start collections with no real direction. It’s fine of you got the money and space but lots don’t. Doesn’t make a whole lotta sense.

  • rugerno1fan

    and now for a counter argument, tfb’s advertisers lol…

  • TimRoy

    The most difficult part of owning true collector guns is you are advised not to shoot them because of the wear/scuff factor or losing the nib. You can admire them as they hopefully appreciate, but they have the utility of bullion.
    I have a 1911 Luger in perfect condition that I wanted to shoot so bad I bought a “cheap” parts gun as a sub just to experience it.

  • Bison “FANatic”

    Why don’t you keep your guns and focus on several you really like. You will never sell a gun you don’t regret selling.

    Or be like a lot of us and shoot less, reload more, hone a new skill like long range or shot gunning. Cheaper and you’ll be amazed how it transfers over to other aspects of shooting as well.

  • conrad

    checking the Vault…

  • Saul R

    How about ammo? It seems like prices are going down. Makes me wonder if I should build up a cache if it’s all just going to blow up in price again should Democrat get elected.

    • Cymond

      Heck, it will start climbing in price as soon as the election cycle starts.

  • Jeffrey Dees

    I agree with most of the past comments, now’s not the best time economically to sell your guns, especially with the firearms market (allegedly) taking a dip due to no more panic buying. If you must sell them because your hurting for money, at the very least turn towards trying to sell them to a family member or friend who stands a better shot at giving you a fair price for them than some stranger or dealer who’s trying to go rock bottom to either save money or turn around and make money off of it themselves.

  • Alexander Rasputin

    I agree. I have a two-year rule, anything that hasn’t been used in two years gets sold (unless it’s a family heirloom.)

    • datimes

      I wish I could do that. I’m jealous.

  • ActionPhysicalMan

    He does seem to really like being in front of a camera and doing action shots.

  • Fox Hunter

    Your guns, your decision, if you dont want them anymore , go ahead and sell them, right now gun owners need to focus on getting all federal gun control laws scrapped, especially hughes 86 and nfa 34 and gca 68, gun owners also need to get the batf abolished, the only good gun control is no gun control. All gun owners should pitch in , with money as necessary. The time to kill gun control is now!!!

  • Nicks87

    “I guess I have made peace with the fact that I am never going to have a safe full of ultra rare things that others covet, but rather a safe full of well-used firearms that don’t get cleaned often enough and show good honest wear.” Welcome to the real world, Patrick.

  • Jack C

    the thing to worry about is sellers regret. I had often found myself in the same situation. Young family and the tug of house and car needs. My revolver that I no longer needed for police work was sold. It was years before I became nostalgic for my old 4 inch S&W 19 and had to replace it in my collection. Other guns sold and re-purchased were a 3 inch S&W 65 and a Star BKM. In every case I ended up paying more to replace those missed items. Some it took over a decade to regret selling, others only weeks. Think carefully before you sell because most will cost more to replace.

  • Marcus D.

    I guess I am lucky. Let’s see, I’ve only bought one item (an 80% lower) because it seemed they would be banned in California, and one gun that I regret and can’t get rid of because no one else wants it either (“Sig” Mosquito). The 80% became an AR, eventually. (And now it needs a new stock so that I don’t have to register it as an “assault weapon.”) All my other guns I bought because I wanted them, and still do. And there is a (long) list of other guns I would like to acquire (and keep) for which there is, sadly, no room in the budget.

  • swarfer

    My current gun investment is a fraction of the money I lose every time I trade for a new vehicle and I guess that’s true for most people. It’s amusing to worry about a few hundred dollars in gun value and not get phased by being $10,000 down on your trade. I’ve already reduced the number of guns I own to one for defense and a few favorites for shooting and reloading so I can spend more time enjoying the actual sport by concentrating a few. I run into a lot of gun accumulators (not collectors) at the range and it’s obvious from their fumbling they don’t know their guns and seldom shoot them. Few have even bothered to learn how to reload.

  • Cymond

    I’m keeping most of mine, but want to sell my SKS and Mosin Nagant that I bought back in 2007/2008. I bought them because they were the best I could afford at the time ($225 seemed like a fortune), but now I’ve moved on to AR-15s. Even in this seller’s market, I’ll probably get more than I paid for them, despite the rounds I put through them. I also have a 22lr upper to sell.

    I’m going to upgrade my current guns such as better optics, triggers, etc. I want to register a couple as SBRs.

  • Badwolf

    “…selling…to redistribute the funds to other purchases…”

    Really? This is an issue?

    • DIR911911 .

      who said it was an issue? issue of what?

    • Paul White

      do you have infinite money?

      • Badwolf

        Infinite money and space

  • Raoul O’Shaugnessy

    “CLICKBAIT: Why I’m writing this article, and why should should keep scrolling.”

  • ODgreen34

    Feel like this is mabye new tricky liberal method to get me to sell my guns? Patrick have you been having latte cravings while wondering why our government doesnt do more to protect its well meaning but mis guided citizens? ಠ_ಠ

  • Don Ward

    It’s rather amusing to see the opinion that one has to get rid of a bunch of guns in order to somehow get good at just two or three. This seems a rather misguided notion as if the world is only made of ARs and striker fired polymers. And it assumes that somehow a person is incapable of being able fire a lever action 30-30 one day and a pump action shotgun the next and a Browning Hi-Power the day after that and a Ruger 10-22 after that and a Over-Under shotgun after that and a Remington 700 BDL the day after that and an AR on Sunday and be proficient in all of them.

    But then again, some people can’t drive a manual transmission or operate a hammer without eye protection.

    • DIR911911 .

      interesting how you interpret that , I got more that he has several guns he hardly ever shoots and has decided to lighten the load to concentrate on the ones he does want to shoot better. how is that something worth insulting someone over?

      • Don Ward

        Because I actually read the article?

        “Why I Am Selling My Guns And Why You Should Too”.

        “And Why You Should Too”.

        • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

          Are you sure you read the article? I am reasonably sure you didn’t.

          • Don Ward

            Are you sure you read the headline? I am reasonably sure you didn’t.

          • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

            Nope. We have a people for that.

          • Sgt. Stedenko

            And that’s why you are the king of trashy clickbait titles.

          • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

            It’s good to be the king.

      • Patrick R. – Senior Writer

        I man sad I had to read this far down before someone got it.

      • That about sums it up and there is no reason to insult him over it.

  • Gun Fu Guru

    Four years ago, I had sixty-four firearms in my arsenal. I sold most during the post-Sandy Hook hysteria (some were junk, some very expensive). I refilled my collection with quality pieces, added cases of ammo, and increased my knowledge through training all without spending extra money. I determined that I didn’t want to be a gun collector, and I created six category of guns that I actually wanted to keep:

    Full size pistol: CZ P09 x 2
    Concealed carry pistol: CZ P07 x 3
    Modern sporting rifle: LMT LM8MRP x 3
    Designated marksman rifle: LMT LM308MWS x 2
    Bolt action rifle: Barrett MRAD x 1
    Shotgun: Remington 870 x 1
    Short barreled rifle: LMT LM8PDWBLK x 1 (waiting on ATF approval)

    Looking back at it now, I am still very happy. My gun buying days are behind me. Wheeling and dealing to get the “latest and greatest” is behind me. As my dad always said, “never let perfection get in the way of good enough.”

    • David Silverstein

      That’s a good system, but don’t forget that shooting is (should be) fun and interesting. I would recommend adding another catch-all category of “fun/interesting” and just limit the number to 2 or 3 and the total dollar amount as you see fit. Things like a single action 22 revolver or a Schmidt-Rubin might not be the most practical, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t worth owning.

  • jerry young

    I don’t sell my guns, in the past I did sell a couple guns and have regretted it ever since, I by no means have a huge collection and most not top of the line guns but they are mine and I liked them when I bought them or I wouldn’t have, once I get my greedy hands on a gun I refuse to sell it good or bad I may ending up not shooting it anymore but they’re mine all mine until I die and then they belong to my kids

  • Joby

    I only sell guns when I have a better one that fills the same role. Granted, I usually use the money to buy a gun that fills a role left unfilled. Unless it’s a family heirloom, I’m not a big fan of keeping unused things around for the sake of saying I have them.

  • Devine gaurdian of light

    The writer acts like there couldn’t be another ultra leftist president in office in 4 years.

    • Zack mars

      As do most commenters

    • Doug73

      Yup. Obama was a direct result of the American public thinking that GW Bush was a dud. And dare I say, at least at this early point in his presidency, Trump is tracking even worse.

      “For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.”

      The next President could make Obama look pretty tame, in comparison.

      (That said, the author should do whatever he wants. His gun collection, or what he does with it, is none of my concern.)

  • AndyHasky

    You don’t have to be a millionaire to be a “collector” and being a “collector” doesn’t mean you have to own uber expensive crazy rare guns. I collect Ithaca model 37’s and I pay on average less then $400 on them and I love it. Very few people would covet my collection but I don’t care, it brings me great joy to come across a good find or price on a used 37 that fills a gap in the collection. I’ll never forget the time I found 4 digit SN 37 manufactured IN 1937…

    I still need a good model 17 to round out the collection though.

    to each their own I guess though.

    • LGonDISQUS

      This is what I like to hear!

      My ammo stockpiles are in few calibers. .223/5.56, 9mm, 20ga, .22LR.
      I have necessity AR, pump shotgun, and 9mm handgun.

      Toys include various things in those caliber, including STRANGE things… like a 1940’s 5rd bolt 20ga. Why? It was $60 and is uncommon to see a bolt shotgun hold so many rounds.

      I like the weird stuff. I can appreciate your niche collection~

  • Ryan L

    Yeah we all grow up. It means more money in the 401k and 529 and less in the safe. It’s all good brother. The funny thing is I bet a lot of folks echo this same sentiment then end up spending thousands on a gussied up glock justifying it with some stupid saying like “buy once, cry once”

    • Sgt. Stedenko

      Yeah but your 401K can easily become a 201k (lose half it’s value) real quick.
      Seen it happen in 1999 and 2001/2007.
      Guns dont do that.

  • Trey

    Resource management is a key to a happy life and a positive balance sheet.

    I sell (or trade) rarely but when I do its to upgrade my collection in some way.

    Sold Rom-SKS to pick up a P-14 which nearly completes my “affordable” .303 collection.

  • Whenever I have bought a gun, I have asked myself first “What do I need this for? What role does it fill?”. CCW? Home defense? Hunting? Plinking? Just because it’s cool to have one in the safe? I might have more than one in any given role, but it’s a tool and I want to make sure I know why I’m buying this. I agree that one shouldn’t show need to justify the right, but personally, I like to be aware of why I’m making a significant purchase.

    Financially, right now, it’s a horrible time to be selling weapons. Unless you have something out of the ordinary, you’re going to take a bath. My firearms are investments, both for their function and value, and it costs me nothing to let them sit.

    So if you’re selling now, I think the same question applies: Why do I need to sell this? I’ve considered selling a Mosin I have because I’d like to reduce some of my debts and they’re still relatively scarce. Would I sell an AR or a Glock right now? Hell no, not unless I really didn’t have a choice.

    Not to mention, just because the political winds favor gun owners today doesn’t mean they will tomorrow. This past election has motivated a lot of people and while the SCOTUS is going to be right leaning for some time, I imagine, Congress or the White House has no such guarantees, at least not past maybe one election cycle.

    My advice would be spend more money on ammo and training now, but unless you’ve got a pressing need, just keep the hardware oiled, stored, and sell only if it matches your priorities, your situation, and if the practical need you got the firearm for is somehow different.


    Father always told me to never sell anything valuable (a gun) because you need the money.

    Times when it is okay to sell a gun is when you have no heart or passion for the item.

  • maynardb

    I am in the same boat, and understand Patricks perspective. I am making the transition from quantity to quality. Too much variety is a dilution of my resources in many ways — financially, as well as space and time. I want to invest in my skills, not my clutter.

  • nova3930

    Not selling a thing. My old milsurps aren’t worth much to begin with and are fun to shoot even if I don’t have as much time as I’d like. I’m sure my boys will enjoy them when they’re old enough as well….

  • Floyd Teter

    Good time to sell? Depends on the gun. If you’re selling AR platform guns, this is a lousy market. If you’re selling AKs, milsurps, or collectibles…especially commiebloc rifles, it’s a great time to take some profits.

    Personally, I’m selling off some of my Eastern European milsurp guns (CZ-82, Yugo SKS, maybe a Mosin M44) that have all appreciated at least 25% over the past year. The plan is to sink the profits into a nice, basic AR-15 while it’s still a buyers market.

  • Seth Hill

    Treat guns like Pokemon, gotta catch them all.

  • I went through this a few years back. I had a safe full of guns that I thought were “neat” and that I never really shot.

    I divested myself of everything that had no clear, pragmatic application to fund the purchase of guns that were missing from my safe using the simple, pragmatic approach. I still have “neat” guns, they just all have an application.

    I try to stick with this approach with varying degrees of success.

  • Bierstadt54

    I agree with the idea that it is up to each person to determine how they allocate their resources. I also agree that now is a good time to buy and a bad time to sell. Ultimately, though, this is a personal decision. A dollar in the hand now may be worth more in a given circumstance than two dollars a week from now.

    As far as collecting vs skill building, well, they are two very different things. It doesn’t sound like Patrick was doing much collecting per say. It sounds more like hoarding. I know a couple gun hoarders, and it doesn’t make much sense to me. Thirty ordinary deer rifles! A dozen 1100’s! And no plans to ever sell them…???

    I like collecting (within my budget) my favorite historical firearms, and I like having guns I like to shoot and do shoot, but if a firearm isn’t one of those two things it is not going to stay with me for long. I collect things other than firearms as well, and most of my skill-building and classes are for activities other than shooting. Like most people, I imagine. YMMV

  • Ryfyle

    My Video Game reasoning generally suggests that I sell my old guns to get parts for new gun that fulfill a role better. Hense why I sold my old SKS to get a good Lower for an AR.

    • Surly Old Armorer

      An intelligent person would have kept the SKS and scraped together the $40 or so for an Anderson lower. So they wold have a functional rifle now (and tomorrow) while they were parting their AR together.

      • Ryfyle

        I had two functioning rifles prior.

      • Ryfyle

        Secondly Tilting bolt has some issues. All-in-all still had my back up nugget which works quite nicely so far.

  • i’m sure this has been asked but why do you need to sell your firearms to become more skillful? follow our plan with one difference. keep your GUNS!

  • BeoBear

    I’d say do whatever you need to do. If the guns don’t “speak” to you or in other words, are guns that you don’t just really love, get rid of them. A gun that doesn’t make you happy is best moved on down the road to make room for something that does. I agonize over all my gun purchases so I’ve never actually bought a gun that I don’t still love and wouldn’t give up but that’s not the case for everybody. I’m in the opposite position in that there are several guns that I would still LOVE to own but just can’t afford and now that I’m disabled, probably never will. An M1 Garand, an M1A, an M1 Carbine, a Colt SAA and a Sharps Carbine .45-70 to name a few.

    I’ve read your stuff, you know what you are doing. If this is something you want to do and you’ve thought it out (sounds like you have) then do what you want/need to do. Just don’t sell anything that you love, that you will surely regret. I’ve made that mistake in the past when I was forced into selling for financial reasons (both guns and other items) and it still makes me sick thinking about it.

  • Joe

    Interesting read. While i understand your point I would suggest to other readers who are thinking about buying firearms to do so with the understanding that you should get what you want not what the market or what might not be available to you in the future.

  • nick

    its an interesting talk. Ive gone though “eras” of gun ownership. early in life when I was in the Forces, I had examples of NATO and WP small arms, under the idea of “train like you fight”, so my personal range time was like my “work” range time.

    I have never, except once in my working life had a big money job ( and that one time, I hated my life …work was 24/7) , so I have used my collections to fund the new stages of guns in my life.

    so, later, after the forces, it was then, precision long range for a decade, and after that , came my work as a backcountry and hunting guide, so a new set of tools came to be.

    now, running a museum, I have access to all kinds of stuff that I could never justify, or afford, but, I get to run belt fed 🙂

    I still guide, so have those around, but the big thing for me is my daughters interest in shooting, so I have good, light .22’s . We have bigger rifles , but for a family of 4 on the range, .22’s provide the most fun for the buck.

    and now, I spend my winter evenings in front of my shop woodstove, building blackpowder replica Hawkins and trade guns…as I like that whole craft to gun thing. I’m going to try a long range replica from the early days of precision shooting, like a Wm. Billinghurst, next.

    We all have different needs, wants and bank accounts, but, the important thing is we are all shooters that enjoy the rich heritage of gun ownership in North America , and regardless of what you like to run, the fact is that our community is strong because of the diversity

    off to the range now….I think ill take an old 1894, its blue is off, but it an honest gun, and perhaps the Hi power as well……

  • Surly Old Armorer

    Other than low (no) quality crap — Lorcins, Rohms, Jimenezs — when have gu values ever gone down?

    I’ve never sold a gun for less than I paid for it — and that includes taking inflation into account.

    If you don’t NEED the money — you’re still able to pay the mortgage, mom’s not getting kicked out of the nursing home, etc — then selling for the sake of selling (or the sake of convenience) is not a good plan. The market may be good for some collectible guns currently — for most modern guns it is crap.

  • MarkVShaney

    “And Why You Should Too”
    Yeah, when I want your opinion, I’ll give it to you.

    • TC

      ‘Because what is good for me is good for everyone’.

  • Jackson

    Sold all guns/ammo when obama was president and prices exploded and were at their highest. Sold the guns and ammo for more than was paid for them in the beginning. Sell high buy cheap has always been my motto. So when the prices fell back off then replaced what was needed. Will do the same again if prices exploded again. Unless security became an issue and was needed. You can always keep a couple back for emergency.

  • RyanC

    A complete gun collection includes:
    (1) subcompact you know inside and out for concealed carry
    (1) Compact for winter/fall carry
    (1) Full size gun for home defense
    (1) 10/22 rifle (.22 pistol optional)
    (1) pistol caliber carbine that shares magazines with your full-size gun
    (1) 1911 – Government or Commander sized.
    (1) AR15
    (2 ) shotguns – 1 pump, 1 semi-auto
    (1) Semi-Auto rifle in .308 or 7.62
    (1) bolt action precision rifle in any caliber other than .22 or 5.56

    Anything on top of that is considered excess.

    • PaulWVa

      Thanks Hillary for telling us how we should live, what we should own and not own. What we would do without you? Not sure if I should start selling stuff or buying stuff to meet your ideals. Looks like I’ll need to do both. The only excess here is your post.

      • RyanC

        I can’t decide what I’m more shocked for: That someone in West Virginia can read or someone in West Virginia has the internet.

        • PaulWVa

          Well I’m glad I could educate you Ryan. It sounds like your education is lacking somewhat. WVa is a terrible place, don’t ever come here. If you know anyone who lives here you should encourage them to leave and take their family and neighbors with them. We have enough people like you here….thanks.

  • NoBeeS

    So selling half your collection at the worst time to sell guns is a good thing to do? Probably never. He is a solid tip for Patrick R. , do not gamble or play the stock market. Anything sold now will be break even or at a loss. It is a flooded market, if anything, trading up to the few guns you really want or need for future use.

  • Niguana

    I bought and sold to get different guns for so long and got rid of stuff I can never get back that I will never sell anything that functions properly anymore.

    • PaulWVa

      If only I still had all the different Colts I’ve owned, sold and traded. If we only knew then what we know now.

  • Jacob

    I admit I have guns that don’t get shot nearly enough but selling any of them wouldn’t net me enough for optics or a class or anything you’re saying you’re using your funds for. Furthermore your situation is different in that it sounds like you personally bought guns to write for. And if that is the case then yeah selling those would probably be a good idea. But for the typical gun owner, it isn’t worth it. Definitely not for me.

  • Ron Walsh

    I understand the authors reasoning in what he is doing, and at one time in my life I sold a 1911 that I really loved. I almost immediately regretted the decision, but financially it was something I needed to do. I was able to get a replacement eventually, and now that things are a bit more stable in my life, I just buy the guns that I want to keep forever.

  • Bill

    I totally agree with the Author !

  • L Cavendish

    maybe 4 years …maybe less…and then it is possible we get the Dems back…with more gun control/confiscation ideas than ever before…

  • TacticalPickle

    I agree. I’ve sold a number of my guns and I like to shoot and consider guns a hobby of mine. I’ve cut back to only having guns that fulfill a particular purpose. I’m not a collector but it’s easy to buy too many guns, which is a thing at least to me. If it doesn’t have at purpose, I’m not spending my money on it. I’d hate to think of how much money I’ve spent and lost over the years buying guns for no other reason than just because I could. I’ve made up my mind that if what I have doesn’t serve a purpose, I’m getting rid of it, or won’t buy it in the first place.

  • MP

    In 2022, this will be a freak out story about ammo restrictions and new gun restrictions?

  • Lonnie

    Personally, I can only shoot ONE firearm at a time. I have one each of my preferred types with 2 of some of them. .22 cal pistol and rifle, 2 ARs, pump and auto 12ga., 2 1911s, 1 .357 revolver, a couple mil surp bolt actions, 1 M1, and the rest of my investment is in ammo…after all, a firearm without ammo is only a fancy CLUB! p.s.; I might trade but I will never sell another firearm…js

  • LiberalsH8Me

    Happy to say I didn’t panic buy any firearms, and got great deals on guns I did buy the last several years. I was particular though–had to have a use and value far reaching into the coming years despite who the next president was. I did spend a bunch on ammo-usually pretty good deals. I’ve hoarded ammo for sure, and have money tied up, but it doesn’t make me want to thin out my firearms/ammo now. I’ve got safes full and ammo cans stacked…
    The worst part is moving it all!
    Having all of it allows me to take friends shooting who would never get the chance or had misgivings about guns. Y’all know the look on a new shooters face the first time they pull the trigger. That’s a good reason to keep it all around.

    • PaulWVa

      Agree LIb ….I didn’t panic buy either. I did buy two new pistols for concealed carry and got a permit. I also picked two rifles that were on my “bucket list”. But I have been stocking up (not hoarding) ammo. I remember in the winter of ’14 there were no .22 shells to found anywhere. I promised that would never happen to me again.
      So I watch for sales, clearances and bulk deals. I now have several thousand rounds in my back stock. I’ve been buying 9mm in bulk cases and also reload several calibers. I’ve told my wife that if someday she needs the money she can have one hell of a yard sale. Guns and ammo are as good as gold.

  • Ruger Shooter

    I basically already culled my herd by getting rid of almost everything that did not say ‘Ruger’ on it. When Ruger finally gets around to bringing out (hopefully) the new shotguns they are working on at least one more shotgun will go. I also don’t buy anything that will not actually be used to some extent.

  • Trust No One

    RE: “a ton of mags since they are consumables”. I save money by reusing mine. :))

  • Lee

    Congratulations on becoming a father, and welcome to the greatest adventure life has to offer. I have seen many friends come and go and come back thru the years at my local gun club. I have seen many men with once unfathomable collections, down to the bare essentials. Just remember, things might be hard and tight at the moment, but they level out. Being a new parent is probably the most terrifying and most wonderful thing a person can experience. And times get hard. But they grow up, and everything you sacrifice now will be worth it later.

    Good luck, and God bless.

  • gyrfalcon

    Dont care, do what you want. Use your liberty.

  • markrb

    {What do you think? Is selling my guns a good idea or am I a fool?}
    If you have to ask, you probably already know the answer…..

  • Jeff T.

    Guess it depends on how many guns you already have and their current value. It’s all relative.

  • carlcasino

    Fortunately It has been a long time since I had to make the decision to sell for food or limiting my scant collection. I have a Stevens single barrel 12 ga. I bought for 20$, had it for 50 years, not a collectable for sure but its a keeper, and still accurate as the devil for old eyes.

  • PaulWVa

    I can see no real reason to sell off your guns unless you really need the cash. I am not a collector myself, I’m a shooter. I have a few guns that are collectable but most were passed down in the family. I only buy guns for shooting. I have bought a few that were great buys that I eventually sold at a profit, but only after shooting them a few times. I for one have no real use for “safe queens” or wall hangers. And just because I have guns that haven’t been to the range for awhile it’s no reason to sell them…..I’ll take them next time.

  • Wow!

    Why is this even an article here, much less featured?

  • RPK

    Whatever makes you happy is what matters. Life is too short to sweat the small stuff. If all you can afford is inexpensive firearms and steel ammunition made in Russia, and it works for you, who cares what others think.

  • Max Blancke

    I have never sold a gun without later regretting the sale.

  • Joseph Newman

    I’m always surprised by the number of ignorant troll gun owners out there. Too bad the 4473 doesnt include a small IQ test. I completly understand what you are saying and the disision you have made. If I were in your position I would do the same unfortunately my finances have never allowed me to acheive your rock star status. I have a modest collection that consists of 3 long guns, 3 hand guns, 30 magazines, 2 scopes and about 10k of rounds between them. I am also curently collecting parts for my first ground up AR build. Because of my limited finances I have always put a lot of thought into what I buy. I look at intended use, reliability, popularity, and affordability. I also try and make smart disicions when it comes to accesories and upgrades. When I make an upgrade to a firearm I usually sell the part I’m upgrading on the web to off set the cost of the upgrade. Have I made a few mistakes along the way? Sure. Have I bought and sold things I wish I hadn’t? Sure, but in the end I am overall happy with the totality of my choices. All of wich currently fit in one safe and a few .50 ammo cans. I also have a solid marriage with a happy wife!

  • Sgt. Stedenko

    Sells guns.
    Buys Lucky Charms

  • Sgt. Stedenko

    Is this how you fund the repair of your Hi Point you threw at a target?

  • George Peter Anaipakos

    Pat, I (for one) enjoyed reading this article and don’t understand the knocks you’re getting from some posters. Shooting and gun ownership are a personal choice subject as far as I’m concerned. Buy what you want and can pay for without missing a mortgage payment and having your family put out on the street. For most of my life I’ve either been in the military or in some branch of law enforcement. I have purchased most of the commemorative models of the federal agencies that I have worked for or with. I have the DEA, ATF, Customs Inspector, Customs Agent and other guns that I have forgotten. The point is I shoot ALL of them – Why? Because I like shooting more than I like collecting. People tell me not to cock this or that revolver because it will leave a mark and the value will be reduced, what do I care, I very, very rarely sell my guns, and when I do it is to a friend and I charge no more than what I paid for it so that someone else can enjoy it as much as I did. I buy the guns I want when I can afford them and never buy on a whim. I must have a VERY cheap collection because even if I sold ALL my guns I don’t think I could buy very many training sessions at some big name gun school when you factor in travel, hotel, ammo and the school itself it would be thousands of dollars! Again, I buy guns to shoot, I am not a big ticket guy, but I enjoy the hell out of the guns I own. Thanks for the thought provoking article, keep it up.

  • Old Dodge truck guy

    You have a great idea. I also have way too many safe queens. I am going to follow your lead. Don’t just blow them out however; know the value of each gun that you want to sell and work to get at least close to your number. In the alternative, trade for what you need, but consolidate, consolidate.

  • redsr

    Assuming selling gun to buy a different gun in short order, your only real losses should be the FFL fee(s) and sales tax, if applicable — this assuming the gun market valuations for “shooters” are all equivalent at any point in time…
    As far as accessories, ammo, etc, you’re probably going to lose a little more, but selling a gun now and the ammo and accessories a few months from now may add a few percent back in your court as accessories and ammo discount further.
    Now classes and skills are always tricky — do said classes and skills lead to career/income advancement? If so, then selling guns to fund (if selling guns to fund is required) is the single best investment. For building skills necessary to protect you/your family, that value is priceless so again — sell. For fun, then don’t sell.

  • Jason

    I did the same thing a couple years back. I own one fun gun, an AK. The rest are ARs in 5.56 and Glocks in 9mm. I decided to focus on becoming a better shooter and not a collector.

  • Vaughan Pederson

    I disagree. Prices are low on guns and ammo now. Buy now. Prices are low. Buy ammo now while prices are low.


    It’s the riddle of steel. Times come and go. Cycles of availablilty and fear pressure the market. But having the guns in your possession is constant. The priority is personal. I regret every sale. I have defensive weapons and range toys remaining in my arsenal and I still look for the ones I let get away. But that’s me. You have a well articulated plan of action that makes sense in many ways. Down the road in a few years you will be cleaning the guns you have and remember one you let go. That’s not a bad thing. It just is what it is. The riddle of steel. It’s a good thing.

  • pismopal

    “..I could be wrong but…” Yeah..maybe, maybe not.

  • Bigg Bunyon

    I don’t sell guns, I pass them on to my adult children … sort of a living inheritance thing. They just loved the idea too as a safe went with the early gifts. But even before that, I never sold any. I mean, the ones that are not shot very often don’t get angry with me, I don’t have to treat them like my teeth and clean daily, they have yet to complain about not getting enough attention or asked do the safes make them look fat. And I don’t have to keep up with their birthdays or any sort of major successful shooting/hunting events in their lives.

    The floor space taken up in their storage, works out to be slightly less than 2% of our home’s heated area and that is roughly equivalent to the floor space the TV stands take up. And Lord knows I have to have those TVs to watch all the trash I dislike so much.

    I guess if I get to the point I need the money, I’ll sell some of them. But I’m 71 now, wife and I are both retired, in reasonably good health and [so far] financially stable. Not being a burden, I’ll keep them. I did notice the other day my old Remington single shot .22 I got when I was 13 was leaning over onto my ’60s era Remington 700 30-06 so I’ll have to watch that. Don’t need any familial plotting as that might lead to new little guns I’m not planning on. But I’d keep them too … I always do it seems.

  • WRBuchanan

    I’m in total agreement with Pat. I have a bunch of guns I bought as projects, and they have served their purposes, so they are on the block. I also bought some collector pieces that I got cheap and plan to sell high.

    As long as you get what you want from the sale I see no reason not to sell off unused items no matter what they are. ( I am also currently doing this with a lot of stuff that has nothing to do with guns, but has value and takes up space just the same.) It’s called a Garage Sale, and the term “Garage Sale” can encompass a lot of territory!

    I do like to keep monies acquired thru sales of guns in gun related things or other things with tangible, or liquid value separate, so the money doesn’t just fall in to the “general fund” to be used for consumable stuff like food and rent.

    If you do dump it in the General Fund, then pretty soon you got no money, and got no stuff either!

  • Brian Hert

    You’ve given a good set of reasons for you to sell off your excess guns. I fail to see anything in what you wrote that’s a universal “And why you should too.”

  • srhymer

    Stop drinking and posting.

  • Odeezy Liita

    If u weren’t already buying all the other stuff you mentioned….i.e, reloading equipment, good optics with lifetime guarantees, gun powder, primers, bullets and casings (besides the used brass after a firing session) then you were too focused on just owning a gun. Body armour, hell….even infrared and NV OPTICS ….then youse a lame!!!

  • David Silverstein

    I love the idea of everybody (else) flooding the market with guns and gun parts! Maybe prices will come back down to where they should have been all along.

  • David Silverstein

    This seems like a pretty backwards op-ed from TFB. “Sell your guns.” “You likely don’t have the financial means to be a collector.”

    Hogwash. I consider myself a collector. Several of my guns are rubbish, but I like them. Or I like what they could become. As a non-expert (but not really a novice, either), even I know that there are some really good guns out there at very reasonable prices. In fact, that’s a big part of the joy in collecting anything: finding the hidden gems.

    Instead of telling us to sell our guns, TFB should be telling us how to get the most bang for our collecting buck. Give some recommendations for broke blokes like me. I’ll give one as an example. The Heritage Rough Rider. It’s cheap, it’s shoots, it’s cheap to shoot, it’s a great training gun for youths. If you’re too good for a cheap gun, why call yourself a collector?

  • James Farrar

    I sold my guns (that could be traced to me) back in June 2016 when it began to look like Hillary might win the white house…

  • Kurt Bauer

    Ummm… maybe both!

  • Uncle Mike

    Yes, you definitely should sell your guns. To me.

  • Howard Johnson

    You think I should sell my guns? You can kiss my ass.

  • Mikial

    Practical is always better in my book. Own what you shoot, and learn to shoot it well.

  • Randolph Salisbury

    My favorite saying is “You don’t know what you don’t know” .Ask most gun owners their copitence level ,and most think they a far better an they are .Seek out training .With a rifle find a nation Match competitor,most are looking for newbies to introduce to the sport.Google Appel Seed program or CMP small arms school

  • Rickey Morris

    No Patrick You’re probably right in your thinking but as a dealer I’m seeing (at least in this area) a great slowdown in sales, and along with this, great deals coming now from the wholesale dealers as well. “Buy three of this model-get one of these models free!” Buy 5 of these, get an AR15 free or at 1/2 price. Most people remember what they bought that special gun for, and have that price in mind when they decide to part with it. Remember that it’s only going to be worth what the person looking for a deal is going to pay, and if it’s too close to the cost of a new one, or similar one at a lower cost, (remember you want to let it go!)

  • oldclimber

    A few decades ago a beatup old pickup zipped by, with the tailgate down, and I saw a pricey looking racing bike sliding around in the bed. I sped up to get a look at the driver so I could report a theft to police; as I caught up, I recognized a former Pro/Olympic racer at the wheel, and I realized the difference between them and us. Guns are the same to a degree; there are those for whom it is a tool, and for others they can become a fancy indulgence, a perpetually adolescent fixation like old muscle cars, all of which too many cannot really afford to put good money into.
    Trying to rationalize an expensive hobby becomes even more sticky when the collections get liquidated in the divorce settlement anyway. Good for Patrick R. If you don’t use it, lose it.

  • troydl

    What do you have =)

  • RickOAA .

    Everything I’ve sold I replaced with a similar but fancier version later. It is futile.

  • r h

    donate them to an NRA charity auction..
    get a HUGE break on your taxes and help out some other folks
    i wont nay say what you want to do. each of us has his own reasons for buying firearms.
    i have a friend who enjoys buying only tragically bad weapons. he likes the comedy and WTF factor. he says he never once considered having to use guns to shoot people.

    his dream gun is a type 94 nambu. so, using him as an example, only YOU can decide what guns you want or need. no one else’s opinion matters.