The new Taurus T Series pistols

Brazil’s Forjas Taurus, following  a particularly difficult year dealing with much publicized market/users complaints about safety/functioning aspects of some of its guns (pistols, mainly), appears to be entering 2017 with a serious commitment towards products quality.  Other than simply updating its long-established bull logo, the company is in the process of undergoing wide changes in its organizational and industrial aspects, the later being the full transfer of its main Brazilian production facilities from Porto Alegre to São Leopoldo, both in the Rio Grande do Sul State.

Evolution of the bull logo in 70 years.

The industrial facilities in São Leopoldo, Rio Grande do Sul State. Much of the tooling and many of the machines were acquired from the Amadeo Rossi company, the well-known manufacturer of revolvers and lever-action rifles.

A quick look at the Taurus 2017 product catalog will show that older names, such as of the 800 Series and the troublesome 24/7 pistols, are definitely gone, and that new ones have appeared. If public attendance at the company’s stand in the recent LAAD 2017 Defence & Security show in Rio de Janeiro may be taken as an indication of general interest, it seems that the polymer-frame T Series of hammer- (TH) and striker-fired (TS) pistols is a primary bet for the concern to regain market credibility. Both series are to be available in full-size and compact variants in the 9x19mm, .40 S&W, and .380 ACP calibers. Taurus insists in calling the attention to the implementation of better quality control procedures and enhancing testing protocols for its guns, mainly when it comes to gun drop safety, a major concern.

The new models share a number of features, such as polymer frames, ambidextrous controls, interchangeable backstraps, underbarrel Picatinny rails, loaded chamber indicators, and interchangeable parts. Taurus says the weapons have special, enhanced sealing against dust, sand, and mud.

Here’s a very brief look at Taurus’ new pistols:

The full-size Taurus TH9 hammer-fired SA/DA pistol in 9x19mm (17+1 capacity). All calibers have 108mm barrels, 196mm length, 152mm height, and 33mm width, weights being in the 800g range. Other capacities are 15+1 (.40 S&W) and 18+1 (.380 ACP).

The compact hammer-fired Taurus TH Series guns have weights in the 700g range, capacities being 13+1 for the TH9Cin 9x19mm (photo), 11+1 for the TH40C in .40 S&W, and 15+1 for the THC380C in .380 ACP.

The full-size, striker-fired Taurus TS9 in 9x19mm has a 17+1 capacity and weighs 705g. The TS40 (15+1) weighs 728g, while the TS380 (18+1) weighs 738g.

All the TS Series (striker-fired) variants, both full size and compact, feature a dual trigger safety system, seen here in the applied position.

The TS9 field-stripped. Following a slight pressure on an internal button in the trigger guard, the slide assembly is just pulled upwards from the frame. For reassembly, just snap it back.

The guts of a Taurus TS9. Eventual firing mechanism problems are dealt with the changing of the whole set rather than fixing the broken part.



Ronaldo Olive

Ronaldo is a long-time (starting in the 1960s) Brazilian writer on aviation, military, LE, and gun subjects, with articles published in local and international (UK, Switzerland, and U.S.) periodicals. His vast experience has made him a frequent guest lecturer and instructor in Brazil’s armed and police forces.


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  • olivehead

    Pass.

  • nova3930

    How many rounds do they fire when you unholster?

    • me

      All of them

  • LGonDISQUS

    THC380C 😂🌿🍀🌴

    But for real, if you’re budding for a dank South American Pistol, go with Bersa… Right?

    • Bersa’s are pretty nice. I kind of miss mine.

      • me

        Same here. I sold my thunder .380 a few years back and strangely miss it.

        • Paul White

          I gave in and rebought one 🙁 They kick a bit for a 380 but they’re fun to shoot and surprisingly easy to hit with

          • LGonDISQUS

            Try some of the polymer wonder 380s and call me about snappiness. I guess everything is relative, no?

        • LGonDISQUS

          I have a nickel Thunder 380 (Pre safety key) with black buttons and hammer. CCW 80% of the time. P3AT the other 20%.

    • Joe

      Bersa BP9CC. If you don’t need a double-stack, definitely take a look.

      • bluegreydude4

        I’m looking at getting the BP40CC for CCW. Can’t beat a 22oz. .40S&W pistol for a surprise package if you’re being mugged! LOL!

    • Gunn

      I regret that I have but one upvote to give for this comment.

  • Moonman45

    Big fan of their revolvers, the poly frame pistols less so, but they shoot fine.

    • My dad had a model 66 .357 snubbie that would seize up after about 20 rounds. The cylinder would bind up on the forcing cone once it warmed up enough.

      • Martin Morinigo

        I have the 6″ model 66 357/ 7 shot, and after about 500 rdds of off-the-shelf ammo and then 500 rds of reloads using those same cases, i’ve yet to have any issues with mine.

  • john huscio

    Odds that these fire when shaken too?

    • a_b704

      Shake shake shake, bomp bomp bomp bomp, shake shake shake, shake my Taurus, yeah. Shake my Taurus, yeah.

  • Must admit, I’m intrigued.

  • Kovacs Jeno

    TS is nothing more than a redesigned BB6 from the well-known austrian designer, Wilhelm Bubits.

    • Jimmy Chimichanga

      If it’s blessed by Bubits, I would buy one. Love my Steyr M9a1 & Bersa Bp9cc

  • DIR911911 .

    the hammer fire looks like an updated version of last years 809 , but since I’m waiting to send them my pt145 when the settlement case ends I’ll have to pass. did get about 6 years of use and about 2000 rounds through it before it went kaput.

  • Hoplopfheil

    Not a great looking set of pistols. Clearly a progression from the 800 series, which aren’t really attractive guns. People who own them seem to really like the way they shoot though, so these will probably be good too.

    That TS9 actually looks pretty good. Like a combination of a Canik and a Bersa BP9CC. Hopefully they’ve ironed out the kinks with the striker system the MilPro series used (not that I think there ever was a real kink… but hey).

    • Marcus D.

      I bought a Millennium Pro for my daughter when she finished college and was moving to Cleveland. She says it is really loud, but she has had no mechanical issues over the last six years. 12+1 and small enough for concealed carry.

      • Retiredextremelydangerous

        I own 6 Mill Pro 111’s G2 in 9mm. Have 4 daughters that conceal carry. Never had a problem and these guns go to the range at least once per month for a 200-250 rnd. workout. I carry the other two under each arm. Nice weapon and I have among many, 2 Browning 9mm, H-K, Ruger and others. FYI a Canik TP9 Mag works great in these PT-111 giving larger rounds capacity, for around $26. Sig P226 mags work also.

  • Noah Tahl

    Trust us, this time we will get it right!

  • Gunn

    “All the TS Series (striker-fired) variants, both full size and compact, feature a dual trigger safety system[…]”

    HOLY F*CK THEY ARE BEYOND HELP

    They almost had it. They were so close! To making a gun that didn’t have at least one really questionable design “feature” (fires when shaken, literal painted bars on the back of the slide in lieu of sights, etc.). But they just HAD to go and dork it up with some really, really dumb sh*t.

    Taurus, never change. Except actually, do. Please.

  • Matt

    You can always find a used Glock or M&P for what a new Taurus goes for. If it’s not a 92 clone, I’ll pass.

  • Bigbigpoopi

    Shake Shake Shake ,Shake Shake Shake ,
    Shake your Taurus, Make it go bang!

  • Marcus D.

    I swear this gun out uglies the Glock.

  • ContrarianView

    Taurus is the single most purchased brand in my shop. I’d feel guilty about selling them to people who want them for self/home defense, but it’s a free country and the information about their unreliability is easy enough to find. If a customer asks about their reliability, I’ll tell him straight up, “It’s a recreational pistol. It may shoot fine over its life, but statistically enough of them fail that I wouldn’t bet my life on one. It has a lifetime warranty, but the odds of needing that free repair are unacceptably high.”

    Someone said, “The 2nd Amendment protects poor people too,” but I say, “The 2A protects you better than a Taurus will.”

    • Ruger Shooter

      Glad to see that you are honest with people. Before I retired there were a few items that companies I worked for sold that I flat out told people NOT to buy. (And they did not). They very much appreciated the honesty. Just what? I was always the highest selling person, no one else was even close. I could never bring myself to trust a Taurus; I have personally witnessed and/or had failures using other people’s Taurus’ of every type of handgun they made, even revolvers. Quality Control? What’s that?

    • robocop33

      You are simply not familiar with the safety features of the De-cocker on the Tarus. It IS a very safe weapon and reliable.

      • ContrarianView didn’t say anything about the safety. Where are you getting that?

    • Martin frank

      people like you are the reason everyone buys guns online

  • a_b704

    Anybody know when I can get a Taurus Curve in .45ACP? 😉

  • tiger

    Sigh…… every time I blink, they change models. That is My Pet peeve with Taurus. I miss the Titanium guns.

  • Andrew

    Considering all the perennial quality control and financial problems Taurus has, it is amazing how many new products they keep coming out with. Maybe they should spend more effort on making a smaller number of models very well instead of pumping out new models every year. In the past few months they dropped the 24/7, 800 series, and TCP. And are now introducing replacements.

    • Or, you know, like do the proper trial and redesign process so that parts don’t break, pistols only fire when the trigger is pulled, and the guns actually work properly when they are released onto the market.

  • José Gregorio Torres

    That TS9 reminds me the Bubbits BB6

  • Colonel K

    We is not impressed. Best return these to the skunk works.

  • robocop33

    I have a PT24/7 DM in .45 and have had this firearm for I guess 4/5 years. It have always functioned exceptionally well. After that safety scare came out I tried my best to get it to do an AD, (unloaded of course), and could never get the striker to fall. It is really an excellent and safe firearm. The best thing about it is the DA/SA with a de-cocker. I always carry a round in the chamber and the weapon ‘de-cocked’ and on safety. All that I need to do if flip off the safety with my thumb and pull the trigger DA in order for it to fire and the rest of the 12 rounds are SA. I really like it except it is large and hard to conceal with some clothes.

  • RPK

    I wish Taurus would bring back the PT732. The .32 Caliber is under rated and it would compliment the PT738 I already own.
    As for the comments on the Bersa .380 Thunder series. I own a Combat and Combat Plus model, as well as the .9mm model used by the Argentina military. ALL are reliable, affordable and easy to conceal.

  • Ubama’sTrueLegacy

    A hi-cap .380 is a good place to get a lead on market share.

  • edicius4

    The hammer T-H series look like the PT800 series guns with Millennium G2 grip patterns instead of the 800 series grip patter. The striker ones though look like all new designs.