Shuttlecocks On Grenades Dropped By Drones

Yes you read that right. Iraqi soldiers are using a tactic from ISIS. They apparently have been using shuttlecocks on grenades. The shuttlecocks add stability to the grenades and improving their accuracy.

From the photo below it looks like there is a custom adapter that fits the 40mm grenade onto the shuttlecock.

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  • tsubaka

    they are using VHS-2 also
    how much rifles are being in service?

  • NineWays

    Lawn darts on steroids?

    • QuadGMoto

      You no longer have to get them in the circle. Close is good enough, because hey, it is a grenade.

      (As in “close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.”)

  • mrpotatocat

    Hey if its stupid but it works, its not stupid.

    • M-dasher

      I hate this phrase….i mean, i could wipe my ass with a cactus…and im sure it would probably work…doesnt mean its not a stupid idea…

      • Bierstadt54

        I think some of the urgency of the phrase is lost when you transition from life-or-death to what you like to wipe your butt with.

  • Rick O’Shay

    Welcome to the future of war.

    • TheNotoriousIUD

      This is only going to get more interesting.

  • So how are they spin arming the rounds? Each round is fused to be armed by spinning that is not simply bypassed by rolling it across the floor. I’m guessing they are taking the rounds apart and bypassing the safeties in the arming mechanism, sure hop they don’t have a drone go down on something they don’t want to blow up.

    • Brasstard

      That’s what I was thinking when I saw ISIS doing it. Someone is unscrewing the top and disarming the safeties. I wonder how much of an impact would set one off. Don’t drop them lol

      • El Duderino

        Love to read that Craigslist “help wanted” ad.

        • Gary Kirk

          “Help wanted, some mechanical experience preferred, but not required. Religious beliefs a plus. No retirement, but benefits include 72 virgins”..

  • A.WChuck

    Welcome to The Things Vaguely Related To Firearms Blog!

    • Rick O’Shay

      Sure beats “welcome to ttag, where we try to be the buzzfeed of gun blogs!”

      • iksnilol

        With a healthy dose of Alex Jones paranoia thrown in for good measure.

        • Rick O’Shay

          Doesn’t help Alex Jones is based out of Austin, too.

        • NoDakNative

          Alex Jones has so many people on with good ideas who are great to listen to, but the man himself needs a 72 hour psychiatric evaluation.

          • iksnilol

            What’d the poor psychiatrics do to you that you want them to spend 72 hours with him?

  • Major Tom

    They’d probably get more stability using cloth streamers a la Hales No. 2 grenade of WW1 vintage. Shuttlecocks aren’t very stable to begin with.

  • Juggernaut

    That Humvee looks seriously overloaded- what is on the roof?

    • MrBrassporkchop

      Looks like a cat carrier for a robotic tiger.

      • AzureRaptor

        The latest from Stark Industries. “We like to call him Mr. Murderwhiskers.”

    • J.T.

      Armored gun turret.

    • M-dasher

      Looks like and armored gunners nest with rpg protection grates

    • iksnilol

      Nah, they just lowered the suspension to cruise up on suckers more comfortably.

    • 11b

      A turret with a buttload of steel armor. The suspension is probably shot too bc the Iraqis dont have the supply chain to fix a lot of stuff.

  • jcobbers

    This is a military idea who’s time has come; kinda brilliant, simple, cheap and effective. Could be more cost effective and quicker than calling in an air strike or artillery, and since it is a small munition assuming ROE are followed, could keep loss of life down in collateral damage. Now lets pass the idea off to a defense contractor to make it overly complicated, redundant, failure prone and require 5 years of R&D and trials.

    • AzureRaptor

      I’ve been saying for years that I can’t believe nobody’s tried a small fertilizer-and-nails bomb stuck on a drone. This is more efficient, and even lets you reuse the drone.

    • 11b

      I’m with you minus the collateral damage. These are still unguided munitions. Stabilized, but unguided. ID-ing a target is hard enough with a military grade drone using excellent ISR…. a hobby drone is going to be exponentially harder. Of course this is all fine for the Iraqi Army because they can get away with it, but for the US or other Western militaries the risk of collateral is too high.

    • Noble

      I’ve been looking into something similar to this: using large-sized commercial drones with multiple underslung tube grenade launchers, or even M72 LAW/RPG-22 type weapons. Could provide “close air support” organic to an infantry company.

      I also think they have potential for Executive assassinations. A heavy-lift quadrocopter packing two RPGs. The first shot blows out the window during the board room meeting on the 50th floor. Second shot eliminates the target(s). Executive Protection in the 21st century will get far more complicated.

  • Beardedrambler

    Mortar rounds would be more effective. That is what isis uses on their drones.

    • Renato H M de Oliveira

      They’re also a lot heavier, requiring a bigger drone, or a severe penalty to the drone’s performance.

      • Tom Currie

        Plain ordinary hand grenades would work better and be a lot safer

        • Renato H M de Oliveira

          You use what you have, but I concur that hand grenades seem to be a better solution.
          Then again, a 40mm + shuttlecock weighs less than half grenade, allowing the drone to carry a pair instead of one, and go further / faster / higher at that.
          M67 hand grenade: 397g
          M433 HEDP 40mm grenade: 170g (warhead only)
          M720A1 60mm mortar shell: 1660g

  • Darhar M.

    Necessity is the mother of invention.

  • QuadGMoto

    Did anyone else find the video very confusing? I got no sense of what was actually happening beyond “they’re using a drone” and “something went wrong.”

  • valorius

    I actually thought of this idea a couple years ago while relaxing with my thoughts sitting on my deck.

    • Blaine

      Same here. I’ve always thought it’s kind of frightening how vulnerable we are to these things too.

  • Scott Tuttle

    skeet shooters are going to start getting extra pay in the military

    • datimes

      That’s what was done on the battlefields of WW1 to shoot down the enemies carrier pigeons.

  • iksnilol

    Hey, its cheap, works and allows you to attack without exposing yourself.

  • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

    I’m really curious how they’re arming these. Are they just bypassing the nosecone safeties entirely?

    • Rick O’Shay

      I imagine if there’s any safeties on these at all, they’re removing them after loading the mortars onto the drone, and they’re triggered when the nose hits a hard surface.

      • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

        They’re using 40mm grenades. All of the ones in at least US inventory are spin-armed. They need to be fired and make several revolutions (thanks to the rifled barrels) before they will arm and fire. That’s why you can drop one without blowing yourself up. And theoretically, if you shoot at something too close, it won’t explode either.

        • Tom Currie

          Which brings us right back to C H-S’s question: How are they arming these? IF they are 40mm grenades from the US or any NATO country, the fuses are spin-armed. So, maybe the real question isn’t HOW but rather ARE THEY arming these at all. This wouldn’t be the first set of photos of some half-assed idea to come out of the sandbox.

          • iksnilol

            You could just disable the safety. Or use the vanes to make sure it does some revolutions.

    • 11b

      To answer your question, yes and no. They are eliminating the spin safeties and also manufacturing their own fuses (and whole munitions) based off the Russian VOG/GP-30. Check out conflict armament research as they have a great article on it.

  • john huscio

    Wondering how long before someone drone bombs something here.

    • Nashvone

      Civilian drones aren’t prolific enough yet.

    • NoDakNative

      Why bother. The current trend is knives and big trucks. They’re getting higher body counts with those than bombs and guns in western countries.

  • jerry young

    Just like putting fins on a rocket to guide and give it stability while falling instead of while flying not a bad idea and probably cheaper than making fins specifically for the 40mm grenade

  • Rodney Steward

    Must be why Opey wanted to ban drones all together for real Americans, afraid they could be used like this on his muslim army he’s built here in our country! I got to see the lay out of a muslim training camp here in AL. from a drone!

  • Wojciech Kapeliński

    Those custom adapters – 3d printed, moulded or re-purposed from something else?

  • gregge

    Great job, let the cat out of the bag. Now the guys these are aimed at will just get some badminton racquets to swat them away.