H&K MP7 Sub Machine Pistol Mini-Documentary (Battlefield Vegas)

In this episode of TFBTV, James and Patrick interview representatives of Battlefield Vegas and Heckler and Koch to get some basic information about the mysterious H&K MP7 Submachinegun. Of course, James and Patrick (as well as TFBTV’s camera guys, who had never shot a gun before SHOT 2017) get to cut loose with the MP7 on camera. Note that the version fired at Battlefield is an MP7A1, while the model used by H&K’s rep is the A2 variant.

If you want a little background on the MP7 before watching the mini-doc, no one sets the stage better than TFB’s own Nathaniel F. The following excerpt is from Nathaniel’s article “The HK PDW: The Origins Of The MP7”

Though rare in the wild, mostly seeing use with special units and some police departments, is a favorite of Hollywood movie-makers and Triple-A video game developers, thanks to its compact size, striking looks, and fully automatic firepower. The gun itself, however, was originally intended to be an inexpensive, compact, and unobtrusive weapon that would be better for troops far from the front, the MP7 eventually became a weapon more commonly associated with the tip of the spear, direct action teams, and SWAT officers.

The MP7 began life in the last year of the 20th Century as the Heckler & Koch PDW, which was intended to compete directly with the Fabrique Nationale P90 in NATO trials to standardize an echelon weapon for second-line troops, vehicle crews, and support personnel.

The resultant MP7 differed somewhat from the PDW, in that it was heavier (1.9kg/4.2lbs vs 1.6kg/3.5lbs) had a longer rear receiver, a flash hider, full length top Picatinny rail (deleting the molded in fixed ironsights of the prototype), taller buttpad, and mounting points for rails on the sides of the forward receiver housing, all changes which hastened the PDW’s evolution from a dedicated personal defense weapon to a more generalized submachine gun that could be used equally well by echelon troops or direct action teams. This evolution is ongoing today, as Heckler & Koch recently released the MP7A2 variant, which does away with the folding vertical foregrip of previous versions in favor of a tri-rail mount.

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Steve Johnson

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  • int19h

    It really looks like one of the best modern PDW SMG designs. Compact, lightweight, easy to carry and deploy. Should be perfect for support troops and the like.

    I wonder what reliability is like on these things?

    Also, did you notice the part where folding sights are designed in such a way that you get basic “pistol like” open sights when folded, and a proper aperture and post when unfolded? Neat.

    • CommonSense23

      Reliable, but a really underpowered weapon.

      • SeeThroughYou

        I suspect anything less than 6x35mm would fail to gain your approval , lol

        • CommonSense23

          No, I appreciate 9mm and 5.56 just fine. But when I got to reload a after dumping 20 rounds in a human size animal that 2 to 3 5.56 rounds typically dropped with ease. It really doesn’t build much confidence in the round.

  • Jared A. Faber

    I know people go “OMG! this article is just an glorified advertisement!” But this seems like one case were it would be most justifiable. “will go through Soviet body armor at 300m” The Soviet Union dissolved BEFORE I WAS BORN, perhaps reference something more up to date? “The ammo is available in the US at a reasonable price.” A quick look on Ammoseek gives the cheapest price as 39.9 cents per round. To be fair, if you contracted that out for a police unit it might come out lower, but then again you could just contract 9mm and save even more money. Then he talks about how he can’t find a finer sub-compact (how sub-compact is 16 inches long and 6.7 in tall?) short range and long range (Hahaha!) weapon system.

    I think I’m be salty because I was expecting some real substance, not PR guy talking for half the video with the TFB mag dumping the other half.

    • BattleshipGrey

      Well, I think that when it comes to this gun, that’s the best we’re going to get. Unless TFB could find a police department that would let them try it out for a review at the PD range where they could have more time to evaluate it and give us their own opinion. I highly doubt HK is going to send one out for a test given the very restricted nature of the MP7.

    • SGT Fish

      9mm kiss vector… lost all accountability with that statement. There’s a reason no one serious uses them.

      • Ken

        all credibility maybe??

      • BattleshipGrey

        That reason is…?

        • int19h

          In all seriousness, does anyone actually use Vector (as an SMG), and if not, then why not?

        • Suppressed

          I could easily be wrong about this and welcome correction, but I think the biggest issue with them is the sights/pic rail for optics is on the upper and the barrel is on the lower.

  • Polaritypictures Ken

    Would like to see if they can up the caliber of it using the same case, have a heavier bullet.

    • roguetechie

      Considering that you can make 7mm Penna from 5.7×28 cases and 7.92 vbr from .30 carbine cases, I’d say yes you could.

      The question of whether you could make this new round work in an MP7 though is another question entirely.

      • ostiariusalpha

        As long as you get your gas port the right size, I don’t think the MP7 short piston-stroke system will care what bullet caliber you use. The problem is that the barrel trunnion is molded into the lower, so any new caliber is going to require its own unit, unlike more modular firearms.

        • roguetechie

          Ugh LOL such a stupid, passive aggressive, and authoritarian way to do things… Why did I expect anything else from HK?

  • Justin

    I was really hoping he would say “weapon system” at least 15 more times.

  • Gary Kirk

    I just don’t get the fanfare around these.. They don’t really impress me to be honest.. Except for the unobtainable nature of them, and all the VG players that “OMG!!!” over them. Just doesn’t seem to serve a personally useful purpose for me.. YMMV..

    • ostiariusalpha

      They’re actually rather soft shooting guns, especially compared to their previous effort, the UMP, which was basically a plastic Uzi.

      • Gary Kirk

        K, still not gonna drink the Koolaid..

        • ostiariusalpha

          The MP7 has plenty to recommend against it, but that doesn’t change that they are light, high capacity, and easy shooting SMGs. They don’t need to be tailored to your personal interests to be considered valuable to others for what they are.

          • Gary Kirk

            Never said they had to be “tailored” to my “personal interests”, only said I don’t get the fanfare around them.. Not taking anything from them, just don’t get it.. And as far as I know, they’re meant to be PDWs, not SMGs.. There is a difference.

          • ostiariusalpha

            No, Gary, there isn’t. A PDW is the military technical term for any weapon issued for use by rear echelon personnel and pilots; whether that is a SMG, pistol, or even a shotgun. It’s a role, not a class of weapon, and both the M1911A1 and M9 have carried that designation. The MP7 is a SMG that was designed from the ground up to serve in the role of a PDW that shoots armor penetrating pistol rounds. Design intentions aside, the actual role it is currently used as is a SMG for the assault role by SpecOps.

  • mcjagermech

    nothing like a weapon that shoots hyper velocity grains of rice

  • Ark

    That was a commercial.

    He keeps rattling on about the range, and then the only shooting footage is mag dumps at pistol range. Show me somebody actually making consistent hits at 300 yards and maybe I’ll believe it then.

    Also, LMAO, “goes through Soviet body armor”. Grandpa, the 1980s called, they want their obsolete geopolitics back.

  • Walter E. Kurtz

    The MP7 is very sexy and very controllable….until an empty cartridge case gets stuck in the chamber and won’t extract…and no one around you has a .17 caliber cleaning rod to knock it out. The horror….the horror…

  • Cahal

    Police issue in ireland and the U.K. to specialist units. ireland issued it to deal with criminals who have access to bf vests.