BANKRUPT: Gander Mountain Weighing their Options

Gander Mountain

Gander Mountain is continuing down the same path that we have seen other industry giants take lately.  The destination is not a desirable one either. Gander Mountain is preparing to file for bankruptcy likely by the end of this month. Sports Authority and Sports Chalet have both filed for bankruptcy this past year as well.

The Minneapolis-based company is actively working with Lighthouse Management Group, Inc. as a financial advisor alongside the law firm Fredrikson & Byron PA. It has not been publicly stated or known as to what type of bankruptcy they will be filing for.

Many stores throughout the US have been running “clearance sales” that most consumers thought to be for making room for new inventory. These clearance sales likely have another purpose.

Reuters was one of the first news sources to break this story and had this to say:

“U.S. hunting and fishing chain Gander Mountain Co is preparing to file for bankruptcy as early as this month, after an aggressive effort to expand its store base failed to pull in new customers, according to people familiar with the matter.”

With roughly 160 total stores throughout the US, Gander Mountain and all of its employees have a lot to lose. They currently have $525 million in credit lines as well as a $30 million dollar loan in play. Exactly how deep they have dipped into that credit line is not for certain.

As other companies like Cabela’s and Bass Pro Shops have looked to align themselves together to become stronger in a flat shooting sports market, Gander Mountain appears to be on their way out.



The outdoors, fitness and anything related to firearms are my passions. I am a S&W Armorer, Glock Armorer, reloader and am coping with an addiction to classic S&W and Colt revolvers (by buying more revolvers). I’ve been a guest writer for Sierra Bullets and love long walks to the gun range.


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  • Mike N.

    Unsurprising. Their prices on gun and ammo are terrible. Worse than Cabela’s or Bass Pro. I’ve always only showroomed stuff there, never purchased.

    • TheWarriorWorkshop

      Agreed. I go to see the merchandise, never to buy. They are VERY proud of their products

      • Phillip Cooper

        The only thing I’ve ever bought there was a couple of their fishing poles, when they were on lowball Grand Opening sale. $10 for a fiberglass pole is hard to beat.

    • Drew Coleman

      I did buy some shotshells and clays from them since they had a decent deal going on at the time. But that’s pretty much all I’ve bought from them apart from 22 ammo.

    • whit3

      Wow! That says a lot. The Bass Pro Shop near me has the highest prices on firearms and ammo around!

    • BaconLovingInfidel

      Just take a gander and then buy online. They’re as bad as Sportsmen’s Warehouse.

    • glenn cheney

      Exactly! It’s a feelie touchie Bestbuy type of experience, then to the smartphone, and get it tax free. Possibly free shipping and half off, lol.
      Big boxes are zombies. Lung shot deer, running all ahead full, until it’s drt.

  • Let’s consider actual facts

    Your article is written without any factual basis whatsoever. The Reuters piece was pure speculation based on the hiring of a financial advisor, which is commonplace during downturns in a market. Literally every other article was essentially a facsimile of the Reuters article. Every retailer was/is having clearance sales post holiday, every year, without exception. So that is hardly any kind of proof. What really gets me is that your article is written with such a disgusting level of certainty given your complete lack of actual evidence. I would have expected more from an organization in the industry, like yourselves. Not saying it’s impossible that you’re right, just that you’re being irresponsible perpetuating what amounts to a rumor at this point, which is likely just making things worse. You should also consider that they would have multiple options prior to making a drastic move like completely closing their doors, as you suggest is a near certainty.

    You should be ashamed of yourselves for taking the bait and offering up this sensationalized garbage.

    • Paul White

      Eh, the clearance sell does NOT seem to be the normal post holiday stuff. I went to our local one and it seemed like 1/2 the store was marked down (literally, almost all apparel and camping gear). Sadly there wasn’t much on guns or ammo. I didn’t look at fishing gear because I don’t fish so I don’t know if rod and reel stuff was getting axed.

      • Let’s consider actual facts

        Have you shopped at ANY other retailers? It’s a similar story at basically every outdoor retailer. The clearance is more or less inline with what you’d expect after a slow holiday. Let’s not forget that the larger clearance event ended. Sounds like something they wouldn’t do if they were planning on liquidating.

        • Paul White

          Shopped at, and years ago worked at. So yes I know what a regular clearance sale looks like. But for the last 4-5 weeks the bulk of the clothing/camping stuff at ours has been marked at clearance. That ain’t normal. I only keep going back hoping that their 6.5×55 and 41 mag ammo gets marked down. Also that some of their guns may hit a reasonable price.

    • Phillip Cooper

      What do you want to bet this comes from an IP address used by Gander Mountain management?
      Remember the above, folks, when you see the doors start closing.

    • Considering how you signed in with that user name and have no other post I’d say you are affiliated in some way. You have no idea what your talking about and if you want to insult our writers integrity go elsewhere!

      Ah so you are using more than one username. Not acceptable!

  • 48conkli

    There prices are terrible, but the ones i see around me are always busy including gun counter. Comparing them to other sporting goods stores is kind of a joke tho, While the do sell active wear and shoes, its not like they are selling basketballs,baseball and fitness equipment which is an even more flooded market.

    • Lee Enfield

      I can only assume their clientele is FUDDs who’ve never done a financial transaction on the web and maybe newbies who will put their new handgun in their dresser drawer and never shoot it.

  • Major Tom

    Prices are terrible and their availability is way too localized. We have Cabela’s in southern Colorado but Gander Mtn is strictly a Denver Metro Area, Front Range Corridor thing. (Truthfully I only know of one in Thornton.)

    Then I’ve heard they have way too much of this whole membership thing.

    • Jdjdjdj

      What membership thing?

    • KestrelBike

      I shopped at that gander in Thornton a bunch. There’s actually one here in Woodbridge, Virginia (DC Metro area)

      • Ron

        I thought that one was in Fredericksburg?

      • ironked

        There’s one in Charlottesville. I was at first glad they opened in Woodbridge, It wasn’t long before I figured out that GM isn’t all that great.

    • Paul White

      we have one in Amarillo, although ours and denver’s appear to be as far west as they go. But back east their location map shows a ton of stores

      • gabriel brack

        I occasionally go to the Amarillo location when I need to kill time waiting on a VA appointment.

    • SPQR9

      There was one in Aurora

      • glenn cheney

        Shout out to Wade at MED, Aurora.

    • glenn cheney

      I go there to watch the trout swim, cheaper than Seaworld in Orlando.

  • Ebby123

    So… do we have an ACTUAL EVIDENCE that this is happening, or this another click-bait article based on another writer’s speculation?

    ..because so far I have not seen one shred of actual evidence.

    • Laserbait

      Actually happening, it’s been reported in a myriad of places.

      • M-dasher

        Are they all just reporting the same reuters story?………or are they independantly verified?

        100 people “reporting” based on the same source isnt any more credible……its the media equivalent of gossip.

        • Ebby123

          This is what I’ve seen in the past – especially with any straw that can be grasped at so support the “see, gun ownership is declining” narrative.

          I was concerned that this might be the case, but it seems this story is legit – the company is tanking.

        • And yet another first time poster interesting.

          • M-dasher

            dude…..ive been posting on here for years…….feel free to check the comments sections of literally any other post on TFB……

          • Sgt. Stedenko

            Phil gets butthurt when someone questions his stupidity.
            Need more BREAKING headlines, Phil. TFB is perfecting shark jumping

          • M-dasher

            or are your moderating skills the same as your “reporting” skills…..in which case i can see how youd easily get confused.

    • Phillip Cooper

      Have you walked into their stores?

    • It’s for real no doubt about it or I wouldn’t have let it get passed me. If you happen to be in the industry you can find out a good deal before it becomes public knowledge.

      • Ebby123

        Good deal.

    • jimbo

      Well here’s some evidence. They haven’t paid Feb rent for the building I own and won’t respond. I also understand that vendors have cut them off as they aren’t paying. Sounds like either chapter 11 or liquidation is not far away

      • Ebby123

        Thank you for sharing. I hope you don’t end up getting stiffed!

      • BaconLovingInfidel

        I think that means you can slip in after hours and take whatever you want.

        Maybe have a midnight madness sale.

  • M-dasher

    “according to people familiar with the matter”

    in todays media….that roughly translates to “we have no credible sources for our claims”….

    • I remember a time when “sources close to the issue” meant someone on the inside was dropping a dime on crooks in their own organization and a news outlet was honorably protecting its source; now it’s just boilerplate to report rumors as news, and the remaining handful of payphones cost 50¢ and are only used by drug dealers.

      • glenn cheney

        Lol, yes. My LEO buddies have ALL those few remaining pay phones tapped.
        Bidnezz be good.

  • Mark M

    High prices, limited selection and unfriendly customer service. If its not true, how long until it is?

    • LGonDISQUS

      Maybe Academy can buy them and refuse to keep ARs in open sight there, too! ?

      • Paul White

        Our Academy here has tons of ARs and AK pattern rifles on display? Probably 2-3 dozen of them

        • I wonder how much of a part a sales drop after that wretched little foray into political ninnyism played in convincing them to roll it back.

          • Paul White

            It isn’t like I go weekly but I’m in there monthly for something or other and don’t remember *not* seeing AR’s out. So if it happened it wasn’t very long

          • throwedoff

            Our local Academy never removed AR’s from their gun bar. They got low on stock, but there was always a couple on display plus several in 22lr.

          • TrollingThunder

            Academy reportedly saw an immediate drop in sales after making that decision, informing them the hard way that the people crying about “assault rifles” weren’t their customers in the first place.

          • glenn cheney

            If commercial buyers don’t commit to carrying a minimum inventory sales turn, their price points rise from jobbers/distributors.
            Hard to say what factors were at work then.
            Uber Texan is bingo on recent escapades at the CNC works ahead of November buildup, Industry dirt napping now. I still say consumer market basically saturated.
            I call em lego guns, if FDE gets tiresome, a quick change in the phone booth and superman emerges in a new cape.
            Looking forward to poking some piggies soon.
            Daughters company reps out your way extended chopper “tour.” It’s a registered bucket list compliance item.
            Glad FIFI airworthy again. Keep em flyin.

        • LGonDISQUS

          Good to know! Just reciting a newspiece from however long ago.

      • Twilight sparkle

        Academy put them back out months ago

      • Dan Hermann

        Just bought an AK in 12 gauge and Acadamy.$495?

        • LGonDISQUS

          It was in response to their hiding of AR’s after whatever shooting. Apparently they returned back to normal a bit later.

        • Cian Smith

          Was told by the sales guy behind the counter it was Chinese garbage…

      • glenn cheney

        Buying AR’S across any counter these days is virtual stupidity, or an intentional waste of money.
        You get 50 cents for each of your dollars.

        • LGonDISQUS

          Built a $1800 AR for a touch over $900 over 16 months. I played the slow wait for sales game and won out hard.

          PSA upper, stripped
          Aim suplus NiB bcg
          PSA blem lower (magpul moe stock and grip are likely biggest skimp)
          Armalite adjustable trigger
          Noveske 15″ handguard
          $18 amazon muzzle brake
          ER Shaw barrel ♡
          Etc etc etc

          • glenn cheney

            Patience can be rewarding, plus supervisors (wives) sometimes don’t monitor the parts bin, or bins.
            Stealth. Heads up the tax police are watching so glad we not held to retail values.
            PSA just bumped their complete lower G-2 308 from 210.00 to 279.00 I think.
            I was tempted but they were OUT OF STOCK on an upper receiver.
            PSA parts fit PSA on 308. Amscray.
            You guys need to start a scavenger hunter deep deal build.
            I’m no armorer, but it is amusing on utube vids as guys hawk their “builds.” Two boxes, complete this, complete that.
            No way I can see 700 in a milspec I could build for 300’s.
            Wilson Combat, using Rodgers lockup 6 pos. stocks, check.
            My 264 lbc were 300 dollar pups, 100 to 110 .
            How you like your barrel? Great, no?
            I’m a rook, trick is avoiding mistakes. That means staying away from big box stores.
            Right now is the best time I’ve seen for pricepoints, ever.

      • JBenat3006

        I have bought many guns from Academy. Their prices usually are the best around. That said, they don’t special order so what you see is what you get. Sale racks on clothing are usually pretty good also. I quit going to Academy a while back due to the silly AR thing. I guess I can go back now since they came to their senses.

        • Jason Adams

          But they still walk you to the door with a gun purchase as though you are dangerous and untrustworthy. But their prices are good as they buy in truck and train car loads. That is why they don’t special order. But if you can’t afford the gun at a local gun shop I guess that is what you have to put up with.

        • Paul White

          I found out recently you can arrange store to store transfers at least, if you use their customer service line. It’s handy if your local store just doesn’t stock an item.

          A bit slow, but my local options are Academy, Gander, or two pretty meh LGS’s so…worked for me! And the gun I bought was 30-40 cheaper there than it was at any of the NFDN affiliate sites

      • Jason Adams

        You mean those big scary black guns? The ones that fire ammo that can end all life as we know it in 5 square miles with one volley of semi-automatic fire? Yeah they had better hide them or people will be wetting themselves after seeing those and forbidding their sensitive children from the trauma of looking at such things by not shopping there.

    • Mike Lashewitz

      I have not had one problem with customer service. Just getting it.

  • john huscio

    Places that charge as much for used guns as new ones (that are also overpriced) should go out of business.

    • Juggernaut

      They sell a ton of guns at the Gander by me- in fact, that’s pretty much the only thing I see people buying in there.

      • RMP52

        Same here. Our local Gander sells a LOT of guns -and at decent prices. Bought a few myself.

    • TheMaskedMan

      Yep. I went to GM a few months ago, and they were selling a used HK P2000 for $700. It was new at Cabela’s for $650. Places that charge exorbitant prices compared to their direct competition seem to go out of business. What a shock.

      • LGonDISQUS

        I’ve only been to one GM, and the same there. Glock 17/19’s $25 above MSRP, Used ones only $55-75 below. I walked out and wanted to tip over a rack of beef jerky or something out of mindblowing prices.

        • koolhed

          No justice, no peace?

      • olivehead

        Then how do you explain the (apparent) growth of Bass Pro?

        • nova3930

          Bass Pro sells a bunch of other stuff at reasonable prices? Everything I’ve ever seen in GM was over priced when it was on sale, much less regular price.

          • antiliberalcryptonite

            Bingo Nova!

          • PersonCommenting

            They do but a good portion is pretty high. At bass pro you are paying for the ability to touch the high end items they have that typically dominate on the internet. Ive seen Name brand jackets that were full MSRP that the manufactures didnt even sell for MSRP on their own website after a month of them being released.

          • Tp

            Your right on that, and you are really paying for their decor, the huge Bass tanks, every inch of wall has a mount on it, etc.

          • PersonCommenting

            Im just tired of going into stores expecting value and then the sales rep doesnt know anything. That is also what I am paying for and half the time I know more than them. Half the time is being generous too….

          • gwhh

            I notice that ten years ago! I just brought a gun from Field and Stream and had the same problem. GM problem overpriced average stuff. And over price high end stuff you can get anywhere!

          • PersonCommenting

            Is Field and Stream local? I mean I dont mind paying higher prices to locally owned stuff although even then locally owned stuff is cheaper than MSRP.

          • Brian S

            Field & Stream is owned by Dick’s Sporting Goods.

          • PersonCommenting

            Gotcha. Didnt know they had other brands.

          • That’s why I go to my neighborhood street corner for all my weapons supplies.

          • Bob Katt

            And they employees are alpha hotels too.

          • PersonCommenting

            Yeah sometimes. Mostly just ignorant too…

          • PersonCommenting

            That is fine but offer me some value. Have people that know more than I do to assist me. Have pros in whatever department come in once a month with free lectures to staff on how to advise. Pay their associates more so they can be True outfitters and use the products that they sell which is what Cabela’s calls their people.

          • Snake

            The only time I went to Gander Mtn was for their grand opening, when I saw the prices I never returned!

        • Cal S.

          Give it time. You don’t pay for aquariums that big without making bank somewhere else.

        • 2ThinkN_Do2

          Bass Pro is no bargain store either; Cabela’s is the best of the bunch of the 3 (Gander, Bass, Cabela’s). Sportsmans Warehouse is much smaller overall, but does offer good prices at times on products too. Cabela’s used to offer excellent coupons often, which made their prices very reasonable. They quit doing so for a while, but seem to be going back to it again (guess they noticed the negative effect). Bass rarely ever has coupons of much value and not being anywhere out West (except Tacoma now) they were wise to attempt the Cabela’s purchase. However, they would be over represented in the Tacoma/Lacey corridor as a result. Recent articles have stated the deal may fold, as a big part of it involved the Cabela’s credit card business purchase; which has not concluded and may not. Gander should’ve not expanded to as many stores as they did. Too many stores, too much overhead, requires too high of prices to support all that. I still like actual stores over the internet, and destination places like Cabela’s are nice. Too many of them though, and they cannot survive. Been to the Tacoma Bass about 4x’s, still prefer Cabela’s in Lacey or Tulalip.

          • somedingus

            Why you would even bother with Bass Pro when Sportco is like 5 minutes north on the 5 is beyond me. Wayyyy better pricing on just about anything. The only reason to go to Bass Pro is the bowling alley/bar and I can’t really see how that relates to their core concept at all.

          • 2ThinkN_Do2

            Always have to check out what the others have, even if you are not buying. Sometimes you’ll find what want that the other may not have in stock. It could help you decide if you want to wait for the other people to get one. I shop at Sportco all the time, never go out of the way for Bass; just if passing through and have time to kill (I mean spare) 😉 Elmer’s restaurant nearby isn’t bad though 🙂 However, it is too crowed in that area during peak hours; makes it a nightmare getting in and out of there! Used to go to Outdoor Emporium fairly often, until Seattle dumped that firearm & ammo tax on them. PS – I live about 35-45 minutes northeast of Sportco (northeast of Seattle) depending on traffic. I usually stop at Sportco after visiting the WAC show in Puyallup.

          • Tp

            A Bar ends up making a loose wallet

          • Tim X

            LOL, That’s for sure…Walked in to the Cabelas gun room, saw a special edition BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle) in 270 Win at a silly low price, so beautiful I couldn’t resist. It shoots .5 – 1 MOA groups with handloads. 1500 rounds later, still hitting anything I squeeze the trigger at.

          • jcitizen

            HA! My kind of “Bar”!!

          • Jason Adams

            You are so right there!

          • Tim X

            Never even heard of Sportco.

          • Tim X

            Bass & Cabelas merged, so it doesn’t matter which one you go to.

          • Jason Adams

            Yeah they like to use that term merge but watch who runs Cabella’s after the dust settles.

          • 2ThinkN_Do2

            Really, where did you read that? I just read an article two days ago, the Credit Card business buyout did not get completed, so the whole deal may not be done by the October deadline if Cabela’s credit bank sale does not get completed. Now Cabela’s stock is dropping in value and the whole thing is questionable.

          • Jason Adams

            That is why Bass Pro bought Cabella’s. Watch the pricing get changed to match Bass Pro. You don’t have to beat your competition just buy them. I tried telling Bell South that once and got a look like what are you talking about? Then SBC bought Bell South, AT&T while acquiring Cingular (the target of the whole deal) at the same time. Bass Pro is doing the same thing and it smells like price fixing to me.

          • bjensen

            As you pointed out, Cabela’s offered excellent coupons….without which they were/are pretty much as over priced as Gander.

        • Jason Adams

          Bass Pro had an early well established Internet presence. What we are seeing is the struggle of brick and mortar with online stores. But you still have to admit only people that have enough money to not care about cost will shop at GM. Cost conscious people will find little to buy at GM. I don’t know if it is their buyers, the volume at what GM is buying at, or simple greed is at fault. But their price point is definitely at the root of their demise. BTW: When did it become necessary to be fashionable to hunt and fish anyway. The Deer, Elk, and Fish don’t care what you are wearing…LOL I mean really!

    • Audie Bakerson

      Gander Mountain sometimes had decent ammo sales. That was it.

      • Lee Enfield

        The only time I’ve ever bought from them was during the ammo crisis when MSRP was a good price comparatively.

    • Ben

      Yep. I once called ahead to see if they would price match on a gun they had way overpriced. They said yes. I drove down there and they refused when I told him how much they’re selling it for. They said they couldn’t(wouldn’t) go that low. I drove another 20 minutes to go to the other store and I haven’t been back to Gander Mountain since. That was about 8 years ago.

    • bob

      I agree They opened a store in my area which is a very gun friendly area.People here are pretty savoy when it comes to buying guns and sports equipment.
      The store is huge with a parking lot for several hundred cars. Nobody goes there because as you said, their prices for used guns are higher than what people can buy new ones. The parking lot is always empty and when you go in, there are many more employees than customers. For the amount of business they do,1 guy could conduct it out of his trunk

  • 22winmag

    Another Mitt Romney success story… like Sports Authority?

    • Mike

      Sports Authority stopped selling guns, then went bust, connection????? Kmart is going the same way.
      They did have some great sales, bought my S&W 44mag for an excellent price

  • MontaukTrl

    There is a Gander Mtn here in my town. I haven’t been in it in over 2 years. Reasons: 1. Over Priced compared to the also local stores of Cabelas, Academy Sports and even Dick’s Sporting Goods. 2. Sparsely stocked. 3 Did I mention OVER PRICED?

    • Laserbait

      The GM’s in MN routinely were selling used guns for as much as my local gun shop was selling for new. They weren’t even trying to be competitive.

      • olivehead

        Cabela’s gun library is suffering from this same phenomenon more and more. There’s a used Smith 686 (standard 6-shot) at the local store priced at $899. No one there can explain this price to me in the context of a model that is readily available new at a high retail price of maybe $750. At another LGS I can buy a 686 Plus everyday for $779, and that’s high compared to an online price of around $700.

        • Rusty Shackleford

          I tend to be iffy about online gun sales. Generally, I’ll give about a $150 leeway for guns bought online for S&H, transfer fee, credit card fees, and the convenience of having your gun right away. Besides, its a local shop.
          Regardless, the only consistency with Gander Mountain is that you’ll always be able to get it cheaper anywhere else.

        • BaconLovingInfidel

          “There’s a used Smith 686 (standard 6-shot) at the local store priced at $899. ”

          Must have the shoulder thingy which goes up and a high capacity automatic magazine assault clip. Those come at a steep premium.

          • Rooftop Voter

            Don’t tell me this is the model with “scary attachments?”

        • Dan Hermann

          They told me that corporate sets the prices nationally. Bad idea.

        • frankspeak

          ATF is becoming more “user-friendly”…may be time to get your own FFL…and make a little cash on the side!

          • jcitizen

            I think you still have to have a building to hang a shingle on before they will approve a license – they don’t approve hobby retailers anymore.

          • frankspeak

            they actually do seem to be lightening up quite a bit..[log in to their website…it can be quite informative]..the “storefront” requirement looks to be going away..and they appear open to licensing those who focus on internet sales…

          • jcitizen

            Interesting! Thanks.

          • frankspeak

            it would seem they’re directing this primarily at people who sell at gun shows and/or the internet in an effort to get more background checks performed….

          • jcitizen

            You know – that could be true – as most folks I know at gun shows are on the edge of violating the rule that you can’t do regular business selling guns without a license – a lot of them used to be licensed when the rules were less restrictive. I also look at the majority of folks I know at gun shows, and about 85 to 95% of them are already licensed dealers. It isn’t as common as it was in the old days, for folks to go to a show just to sell their personal guns as it used to be. The price of a table is too high for them to bother.

            After I dropped all my licenses and SOT. I used to go together with several other unlicensed folks so we could trade or sell off what we didn’t want any more, or needed the extra bucks. That worked pretty well, but we were almost the only table in the show that had regular Joes, just trying to do some trades.

        • Tp

          It sounds like they put everything out at the manufacture’s suggested retail price, and not the real world price.

  • Mystick

    Just go back to be a mail-order company. Their brick-and-mortar sales model was flawed anyway – no understanding of “supply vs demand” in their pricing and fulfillment strategy.

  • Big box retail anythings are struggling. Between Amazon and [insert speciality online vendor here] there is usually only room for one per industry. Honestly, I think the 1968 GCA is all that keeps 95% of brick & mortar gunshops open.

  • RSG

    I hate having one less large retailer. Even though they usually had higher prices, their market presence likely kept the competition in balance. Here in Rogers Minnesota, there is a Cabellas a few hundred yards from a Gander super firearms store. They play off each other’s prices. Without Gander, I’m afraid Cabellas can/will do whatever they like regarding pricing. Less choices is NEVER good for the consumer.

    • Bierstadt54

      I agree, but no one can deny they did it to themselves. If the Gander Mountain in Rogers is competitive with Cabela’s, well, congratulations on having the only competitive Gander Mountain in the country.

      • Rob

        I live in Maple Grove which is 10miles away from Rogers. Don’t worry, it wasn’t competitive. You didn’t miss anything. They only time I ever saw another human being in there that didn’t work there or wasn’t just buying tags was when Cabela’s had a members only event during business hours and they were turning people away. The three other people all tried gong to Cabela’s first and we were all salty about it.

    • L. Roger Rich

      Agree… A we have is a DICKS (no hand guns) and a Dunham for big boxes. Many gun stores and pan shops however. Hunting and fishing company Bass Pro Shops is acquiring outdoor gear competitor Cabela’s in an all-cash deal valued at $5.5 billion.

  • Darhar M.

    The Gander Mountain Store here has steadily reduced the number of firearms it has in stock or on display and their clothing is overpriced as well. Come to think of it everything at Gander Mountain here is overpriced. No wonder I do not shop there.

  • Vet for Trump

    I made 2 trips to the GM in Conway/Myrtle Beach (sorta halfway between). The first trip was just to check it out. The 2nd trip I bought some once fired 300BLK brass, IIRC, $13 for 50. Firearms overpriced, Academy and Walmart is where I go for guns.

  • Hank

    High, non-competitive prices and over-expansion (which seems to be all American chains ever do any more–expand like crazy and then pray the contraction doesn’t kill you).

  • SerArthurDayne

    I have been in Gander Mountain twice- both terrible experiences. I am from Up North, they don’t have them where I lived (in Cabelas territory, driving-distance to the biggest Cabelas in the USA) but when I moved down south, there was one within 30 mins, so I tried it out once on a drive with my Dad who was visiting. They had a full range of handguns, rifles, shotguns etc. Everything *ridiculously* overpriced, and the staff was *pomposity in human form*. They pretend to let you shop and look around, but chime in every time we’d say something… he asked me if I saw where the Kahr’s were at, to see if there was a new one he liked (he has carried a Kahr on-and-off-duty since late 90s or early 2000s… I don’t particularly care for them in the least, but he does, and it’s his choice.) The worker who’s not listening-but-actually-listening chimes in, “Oh you don’t want THAT junk… you want these Rugers over HERE… These are REAL quality firearms… Kahr’s are JUNK. …” Now, I have no love for Ruger at all, and really no love for Kahr, but really dude? My father is like, “Oh THAT must be why the NYPD chose to approve the Kahr as one of their few authorized off-duty/backup guns for over 15 years…I don’t think they’ve ever authorized any Rugers….” this freakin guy is like, “What does the NYPD know about guns ANYWAY?! They’re not fie-arr arrhm prafessionals like we are here!” — okokok then. We just keep looking, and I point out the SIGs, hoping my father would buy himself one that I could permanently borrow. His attention falls on the full-size P226 MK25 Desert, and he’s like, “Oh I LIKE that tan one…. that’s a SIG you say, and you like them? ” I said yeah, it’s the P226 that the Navy SEALs use… and my father says, “OH 226, That’s my (former) badge number! Now we have to get one!!” Slappy over there who is pretending-not-to-listen-again-but-is-actually-listening pipes up, “So let me guess this right, you’re going to buy a gun just because you like the numbers??” My father was like, “Well I was going to , but your attitude has convinced me to buy it elsewhere, make sure your boss knows you talked your way out of a sale..” we go to leave and of course, naturally, “we don’t need your business anyway” …….. About two+ years later, I needed quick cash to pay a veterinary bill for my blue heeler. I was having trouble selling anything else (Up North, gun sales are very common and much easier/much fairer, down here it’s like everyone just wants to pay $100 for $500, $1000, $3000, $5000+ guns.) — I ended up having to sell my custom Remington 700 .308 AAC-SD, with $1200 Manners stock & chassis, Nikon Monarch, etc. it had like $3200 worth of stuff total, and I shot it maybe a box of ammo. I took it there first , thinking they’d be the biggest store in the area, most likely to buy for a fair price. A kid who might have been in his mid 20s told me he had to take it in the back to “look it up” … I said sure…. He comes back and tells me, “sorry, it’s too complicated for me to buy. You just have too much stuff here, it’s got too much stuff, I don’t even know what to make of it, I’ve never heard of Manners, and the Harris bipod, VTAC sling, KRG bolt-kob, people won’t want it with all this stuff on it…” I just laughed like, “You’re serious?” “Yeah man, I can’t sell this, it’s too complicated”. — never been back. I am not at all surprised to see these people going bankrupt.

  • DZ

    It would have probably helped them to lower their prices in line with the rest of the industry insted of keeping them at sandy hook panic prices all these years. It seems to me most corporate big wigs are either lazy or out of touch with the markets they serve.

  • Joseph Smith

    About five years too late.

    I have only had one outfit had to buy a gun back from because of how badly they butchered it and that was Gander.

  • rennsport4.4TV8

    If they go over the edge it would not surprise me. Their prices on guns are insane. They have a good price matching scheme with the match plus 10% of the difference, but most people do not even know they do that. And if they do why would I not just buy it from the other store when I am in there? Hopefully it is not too little too late, and they can fix what they are doing wrong. They have the best used and milsurp supply in my area so I’ll give them that.

  • Joseph Goins

    This sucks. The next closest thing to me is a Cabelas three hours away.

    • BigR

      Joseph
      I don’t know where you live, but you might try the local merchants, just a suggestion!!

      • Joseph Goins

        All of my local shops have the standard guns (AR15s, AKs, Glocks, S&Ws, Springfields.) They do not have gear or optics of which to speak.

  • Gambler X

    They used to be everything outdoors then pretty much just went guns and clothing. The prices were high and you had to search to find a good deal or you just didnt care because they had it and no one else did. The staff has always been terrible, I seen them try to rip off an old man on a P38 and a Luger offering him $140 on each, then the clerk threw a fit at the customers who convinced him to walk away screaming how he could have gotten two nazi guns for cheap.

    I personally bought a Glock 30 from Galyan’s when they were going out of business, paid $350, needed money and sold it to Gander for $620(book value minus 5%, i think). Their purchase policy changed shortly after that. I dont feel bad about it.

  • cg

    Ok…all of this article is supposition. Actual Gander employee here. Nobody important, Just the guy behind the counter. Yes, Gander is most likely going to do a restructuring through bankruptcy. Yes, some of the stores will close (mostly some of the newer ones that shouldn’t have been opened in the first place or older ones that are underperforming) but not a large percentage of them. Yes, in the past some of the prices (especially used guns) were ridiculous. Believe it or not, Gander corporate realized there was a problem and fixed it. New people doing purchasing and pricing. It’s working to make the store pricing better…at least in firearms where I work. If all else fails, don’t forget that we’ll price match +10%.

    Stop spreading negative rumors based on nothing. Whether you like Gander as a company or not, when the industry shrinks, it’s bad for all shooters.

    • Paul White

      I sure haven’t seen new prices when I was in there last week. 71 bucks for a box of 41 mag ammo (Just the basic Remington stuff)? 549 for a savage trophy hunter 223?

      • cg

        A big company like Gander is more like turning an ocean liner than a speedboat. It takes time. It’ll start with the guns and work it’s way down.

        Also, price matching is a thing. Just ask any of the employees and we’ll take care of it.

        • Paul White

          Or I can just go back home and order 3 boxes of 41 mag and have it delivered for less than one there. or just go to Academy for the rifle.

    • Bill

      Yeah. I’m not a huge fan, but bankruptcy and restructuring are common business practices. Just ask the so-called President.

    • Another first time poster I see—-

    • jimbo

      cg, gander is not paying rent for some of their stores. That’s a fact as I own one of them and they are totally nonresponsive. I also hear that vendors have cut them off as they aren’t getting paid either. wouldn’t surprise me if they’re going to liquidate

    • SPQR9

      Good or bad, the industry is going to shrink and soon. Businesses with poor customer service, mediocre product selection and high prices will be the first to go. I’ll be happy if we only lose Gander Mountain.

      • BigR

        We have a small gun shop in my town, that has a better price on guns than the big retailers do. They even run bulk ammo on sale periodically! They’re gun selection makes Academy and Gander look like small potatoes. They also don’t have trigger locks on their merchandise. They even let the public test the triggers to see how they feel. I’m a 1911 guy, but I decided to look at a Glock, because all my friends loved theirs. The salesman let me jack the slide and squeeze the trigger a number of times. “I BOUGHT THE GLOCK 17”! Now, I love that Glock + the high capacity mags. I can load it on Sunday, and shoot all week!!(just kidding)

    • BigR

      cg, you have my sympathy, but you need to find another company to work for!!!

  • valorius

    Survival of the fittest.

  • transvaluation

    Here’s a credible source.

    I have a friend that was an executive in their corporate office, just before Christmas, a large number (including my friend) were given notice and released(Merry Christmas), my friend was extended through the beginning of the year and cut an extra check. They did offer placement assistance.

    Looks like the Tidy Bowl Man

  • ArmyATC

    Few years ago I went in to buy some ammo during a ‘sale.’ The sale price for blazer brass .45acp was $99 for 200 bulk pack. Right next to it I saw the single boxes (50) of the exact same ammo. $20 each. I bought 5 individual boxes for the ‘sale price’ of 1 bulk pack.

  • For the prices they charge, they should of gone out of business a long time ago.

  • Rusty Shackleford

    Radical thought for Gander Mountain: Why not offer competitive prices?
    I can go anywhere else and buy the very same thing they sell for at least 10% less…even 50% for some goods. Small gun stores will readily undercut their firearms for hundreds less.

    • BigR

      Rusty
      I found that out when I bought my LCP!!!

  • dhdoyle

    I’m old enough to remember when they went bankrupt and out of business in the ’80s (90’s?) Something is definitely wrong with their business plan.

    • SPQR9

      There was no connection between the mail order company and the retail chain other than the trademark.

  • .45

    Hmmmm… About the only thing I’ve ever bought there has been .22LR on sale and a few ammo cases also on sale. Contemplated purchasing a Tokorev there once, but didn’t like the badly placed aftermarket safety.

  • ironked

    I bought my first pistol at Gander in Charlottesville VA. Wasn’t a great deal, wasn’t a terrible deal. Just sort of Meh. Mostly, I didn’t know any better. They then opened a new store closer to home. I think I’ve bought exactly one minor item there. Ammo is high, firearm prices nothing to write home about. The small, personable local gun shops around are less expensive, more experienced employees and have a better supply of used guns – as do the small gun shows around. It’s more like a high priced brand name clothing store. I’m more likely to buy Walmart across the street than Woolrich. Unlike Dick’s, also across the street, for an outdoor sports store, their market focus is very narrow. The parking lot population always looks anemic. No wonder.

    • VT Patriot

      Most of the ‘chain’ sporting goods stores around me are nothing but clothing stores. Sporting goods consist of more than overpriced under-armour tee shirts and shorts. Go to your LGS and buy REAL sporting goods such as ammo, guns, duck calls etc. The Mercedes and BMW crowd need to have their ‘loungewear’ bought at high prices to impress their friends.

    • BigR

      I like anemic! It reminds me of Gander Mountain’s parking lot!!!

    • ccpotter

      Are you actually speaking positively about Dick’s after they threw gun rights under the bus in 2012-13? Forget that!

  • Wellp, time to make time to hit up the nearby-ish Gander Mountain for deals.

  • antiliberalcryptonite

    Maybe if they were not the most expensive outdoor gear store… I don’t mean they have to be the cheapest, but even their sale prices were outrageously ridiculous.

  • Mike Lashewitz

    How do I put this nicely? Gander Mountain has raised their prices so high they have charged themselves out of business. When I can buy most any weapon for $100 less elsewhere why should I buy at Gander? We can all agree that Under Armor thinks a LOT about their clothing lines. But $35 for a single T shirt? SERIOUSLY?
    When I can buy a Glock at a local gunshop for $200 less at blue dot price than at Gander why would I want to drive the added distance?

    When Gander Mountain false advertises a product then blames the problem on “The IT Guys” I get stuck with a gun case that is pre-cut for the wrong weapon. So I ask if they can order the interior padding uncut and they want to charge me $80 MORE for the padding than the cost of the whole case with the pre cut padding I already bought.

    When I can buy a dehydrator from Amazon for $40 less DELIVERED. Why should I go to Gander Mountain? Ever?

    The Grand Opening prices were nice. I hope the going out of business prices are as well.

    • Mike Lashewitz

      Let us not forget the Bennelli $14,000.00 12 gauge shotguns they use in advertising a 50% off sale. Who is going to buy a $7,000.00 shotgun but a wealthy idiot? Bloody hell it is a shotgun for cricesakes.

      • iksnilol

        I am saddened that they let peasants such as thyself on their showroom floors.

        • BigR

          Tell me your joking with Mike!!!!

          • iksnilol

            Peasant Mikhail dirties the showroom floor. Why would i joke?

            But to some extent, the super expensive shotguns are more economical in the long run. Those folks shoot 100k + rounds, a cheap shotgun wears out at the hinge.

        • Mike Lashewitz

          Yeah right! Us wee people must suffer through our pitiful existence of common folk. Such hard decisions spending $200 less at the local gun store for the very same weapon the folks at Gander Mountain are so proud of…

          Glad to see Bass Pro Shops were saved a cool $1 billion over their Cabela’s purchase thanks to the FTC. Makes our prices cheaper.

          • iksnilol

            Oh, even us snobs don’t go to Gander Mountain.

            I mean, their prices are insane.

          • Mike Lashewitz

            Just like Under Armor they think an awful lot about their products. Just like stores who advertise higher pricing just so they can “reduce for quick sale”.
            Con artists for the gullible.

      • Ranger Rick

        There’s no top end in shotguns, I’ve handled $100k+ guns, it’s all in what you want.

        • Mike Lashewitz

          Rick, There is a level to insanity and I guess if you have the wealth insanity has no limit. There is little to nothing that can be done to improve the ballistics of a weapon designed to spread shot. Perhaps improvement in the ammo itself but even that has a limit.
          I am quite sure my Remington 1100 made in 1974 will take out a goose in flight just as well as a $100,000.00 gold plated Benelli.

          The difference being I would still have $99,500 in the bank. But you know the meaning of the saying”A fool and his money are so,on parted.”

          Besides the goose tastes just as good regardless of which weapon took it down.

          When I think about it, with the money I have spent on my adult children over the last 20 years I could have bought 7 of those $100,000.00 weapons.

          Instead I invested in my family.

    • itsmefool

      This Amazonian (I’m at FTW3/4 in north Fort Worth) thanks you!

      • Mike Lashewitz

        Not too sure what that means?

    • ccpotter

      It’s not fair to compare a brick and mortar retailer’s prices to Amazon. Nobody can match them on price or even come close.

      B&M retailers have to win on pre-purchase expertise and the ability to see and touch merchandise (which lots of jagoffs essentially steal by going into the store with no intention of buying anything there, including some who are bragging about it in this comment section), as well as the ability to take home an item immediately rather than waiting 2 days.

      • Mike Lashewitz

        You are correct but I can compare them to most of my local shops which I believe I did.

        However when it comes to Guns one cannot order them from Amazon.
        I also personally know Gander Mountain Can order from Amazon as well as order from the same suppliers as Amazon does.
        The point actually has been made that Gander Mountain does jack up prices OVER MSRP and they certainly pay less than MSRP for a guaranteed profit. I also know they pays just as much as the local dealer does for weapons. Yet I can buy the same weapon from the local dealer for $100 less and HE still makes a profit. Even at Blue Dot pricing the local dealer makes a profit and Blue Dot (for police and Military) is $200 less than what Gander Mountain charges.

  • Gayl Draves II

    The last time I visited my local GM ,store #152, I was looking for some 9mm snap caps. They likely they had them somewhere but I couldn’t find them. 4 workers were behind the gun counter “helping” (talking to) one customer I couldn’t get anyone’s attention so i just left. My local store is always a waste of time.

    • BigR

      Gayl, I was looking at a rifle scope out of the box, attached to a rifle stock so I could look through it to see what type of reticle it had. I wanted to purchase one like it in the box, and the guy didn’t have a key to open the door under the counter. He didn’t even try to get somebody to help find the key so I could purchase it. He just stood there behind the counter, like a dummy. When I turned to leave, he still didn’t say anything. What a moron!!! Most of the employees’ I asked for help, didn’t know “what was where” or “what it was”!!!!

    • Rooftop Voter

      For a second, I thought you were talking about my local Home depot. The place is littered with the orange vested employees but strangely enough, they never seem to be in the same aisle that you are in. I think they move about the floor to avoid you; sort of like playing Battleship.

  • T Rex

    I don’t know how Gander Mountain kept from going bankrupt years ago, because it’s been years since they actually tried to compete with at least a few bargains in a store packed with full retail no discount items. The first Gander Mountain store I ever set foot in was in Minneapolis and I bought a few quality items that seemed like bargains, there were a few really good deals on firearms I might have bought had I been home in Texas, and I recall wishing we had a Gander Mountain store back in Texas.

    My wish came true a few years later and I always stopped to shop at the Corsicana store when passing through, and became a regular shopper, (or at least an attempted shopper) when Gander Mountain opened a store in Texarkana. But in the ten years or more I frequented the stores in Texas, I don’t recall ever finding anything, nothing, not one firearm, firearms accessories, hunting or casual apparel, footwear, fishing tackle, canoes, gun safes, absolutely nothing that caused the reaction “man that’s a good deal”, instead my reaction was consistently disbelief on how they expected to stay in business with prices marked up ridiculously high in stores that always had so noticeably few customers every time I visited.

    For a few years I would always go to Gander Mountain first, look at the high prices, then drive across the interstate to their competitor Academy Outdoors and buy what ever I was shopping for at a fair or sometimes bargain price. The firearms section at Gander Mountain was a cool place to “take a gander” at a large and varied inventory of guns, but no savvy gun buyer would pay those crazy prices.

    It was always obvious that Gander Mountain stores in Texas apparently has some sort of aversion to hiring anyone knowledgeable about firearms opting instead to pay Walmart wages to a kid. The only firearm I’ve ever purchased from Gander Mountain was one I stumbled across a couple of years ago online, a like new Beretta 1201FP with ghost ring sights for $450 plus tax with no shipping charges that I bought online and picked up at my local Gander Mountain store, that surely must’ve been a fluke their marketing geniuses let slip by. For the last year or more I’ve quit going by Gander Mountain first and instead go directly to Academy because I already know they’ll be cheaper no matter the item.

    Bass Pro Shop doesn’t pretend to be competitive with prices on most items either, they might be next.

    • mig1nc

      Most of us feel the same way.

      Interestingly, Sports Authority and Sports Chalet did have some good deals on stuff. At least the few times I’ve been in one.

      We do have a Gander Mountain down the street from me, and the people there seem to be good and knowledgeable and like their jobs.

    • BigR

      I’m in Texas, and the Gander Mountain in my town sucks big time!!!!!! Last time I was in there, I only spotted 4 other shoppers. With their prices, I’m not surprised about them folding. Overhead alone has got to be killing them. There’s an Academy down the road from them, and you sometimes have to drive around the parking lot to find a spot to park! You walk in the store, and there’s wall to wall customers!

  • SPQR9

    Long past time

  • L. Roger Rich

    I have found a few great priced used and new firearms over the years from GM. Hate to see any company go under. A lot are this quarter.

    • BigR

      Thanks for the tip!!! That sounds like a winner

  • krinkov545

    Around 2004 bought a used Knights Armament Vero Beach Kommie Klinton ban config. SR15 for $950. Best deal ever.

  • A Fascist Corgi

    The internet age is upon us. I rarely shop in real stores anymore. Almost all of my shopping is done online now. Brick and mortar stores are becoming as obsolete as printed newspapers and magazines. The only time I go into stores like Gander Mountain is to get a feel for products in real life.

    We’ve entered the age of massive warehouses that are staffed with a relatively small number of actual humans that supervise an army of AI robots. And when driverless cars become commonplace in the next several years, even delivery jobs will become obsolete. Heck, even the manufacturing of guns themselves will become increasingly automated.

    • 2ThinkN_Do2

      And when all the people are out of work, what will they do with all that time and no money?

      • A Fascist Corgi

        It’s pretty obvious that we’re going to have to tax the hell out of the wealthy and implement a guaranteed income for the unemployed masses.

        I also watched a TED talk recently where a guy made a somewhat convincing argument that there won’t be a job shortage in the future.

        He basically argued that humans can never get enough. We’re always trying to improve our lives with new gadgets and services. So, even when most of the jobs of today are made obsolete by AI robots, we’ll simply invent new gadgets and services in order make our lives even more comfortable and entertaining. And we’ll be willing to work our butts off in order to afford those new goods and services.

        In order to prove his point he cited the fact that about 40% of Americans 100 years ago were farmers. Now only 2% of Americans are farmers. If you would have asked these Americans from 100 years ago what would be the consequences of advancements in farming productivity making the majority of farmers obsolete, they wouldn’t have been able to predict that those jobs would be replaced by software developers and the like. Likewise, the Americans of today can’t imagine the jobs of the future.

        I think that the AI robot revolution might be different though. Not only will they pose an existential threat to us, but they’ll be able to replace so many more jobs. Everything from teaching jobs to medial jobs to transportation jobs to food service jobs to every conceivable manufacturing job could be replaced by AI robots.

        • 2ThinkN_Do2

          Science Fiction becomes reality, watched any of the newer stuff lately? It’s going to be one heck of a battle . . . .

  • Scot168

    Have to watch for their going out of business sale if all else fails for them.

  • JamesDrouin

    No surprise about the bankruptcy … their customer sevice at both the retail and corporate levels rate a 2 or 3 out of 10.

  • 300 wm

    Am I the only one who finds when you click on the Gander Mountain links it takes you to Brownells?

  • BigR

    I was in Gander Mountain holding a beautiful Law Enforcement Colt AR-15, and was getting ready to get $1,400+ about $115 sales tax out of my billfold, when my cell phone rang. It was one of my best friends, and he was in a local gun shop about 4 blocks away. He said he was holding a beautiful brand new Law Enforcement Colt AR-15 for $895 and he wanted to know where the hell I was, and I told him where I was and what I was about to do. He said to get my azz over there right away and I told him “don’t you dare put it back on the shelf”. It took me about 2 minutes to get over there and buy it. It cost me about $975 with sales tax. I used the overage I saved on the purchase to buy some bulk 5.56 ammo! That had to be a good day for me.

  • Silence Dogood

    I can’t help but wonder if this is more UN Agenda 21 stuff. The goal is to destroy American capitalism by draining America of all it’s financial resources and to destroy as many jobs as possible.

    This might explain the insane approaches of these CEOs, whether it’s these wacky Super Bowl commercials or really bad business practices like Gander Mountain selling such expensive used guns.

    At the same time, American consumers need to stop being such imbeciles about only shopping for the very lowest prices without regard to the consequences.

    People are so ridiculous these days that they often spend $5 in gas to drive across town to buy something that’s $2.50 cheaper.

    They also bought cheap Chinese junk for decades that was so bad that it cost them more over time because of the low quality of product that kept breaking instead of just spending more up front on American-made goods that were higher quality and lasted a lot longer.

  • Mikial

    I rarely go into the local GM for much of anything. There prices are very high, especially compared to on-line stores like Sportsman’s Guide, Midway and CTD, I sure never buy guns or ammo there. I will say that I have found archery items on their on-line store I couldn’t find elsewhere, but my purchases are very few and very far between. Their prices are just way too high, and now they’re paying the price themselves.

    • jcitizen

      Same here.

  • Dan Hermann

    They built one here in Killeen Texas. Parking lot usually only has 5 cars in it. Why? The prices are too high on everything. They used to be a discount sporting goods store and I spent a lot of money there , (1980’s). Employees agree, prices are too high.

  • disqus_PDmXLtTxJj

    When I was young and stupid I let myself get ripped off buying an AR at gander. Lesson learned. May they rot.

  • 2ThinkN_Do2

    Best thing I ever bought at Gander Mtn., a pair of Sorel Glacier white snow boots; good to about minus 100. Bought them at their Flagship store in Wilmot WI in 1990 or so; they’re still great boots! Picked up a few good clearance deals since 2009, some camo shirts, sweatshirts, but the past couple years, couldn’t find many good deals worth buying.

  • Lucinda Jezzebelle Blackletter

    Not sure if it was standard for all locations but the Gander Mountain we use to shop at around Wilmot Wisconsin had an outlet store that they built right behind their regular store. Great for us, except for the fact that when you sell things like tents and boots and sleeping bags and such and people are buying it, go camping for a weekend and then return it all and you accept every return, discount it and dump it at the outlet store, how does this end up being good business? We got some great deals there, but man…..there was a lot of stuff just dumped off there.

  • Dave

    Gander Mtn is high on prices…. couldn’t agree more. There are the ONLY big box stores that do offer layaway on firearms though. That is the ONLY reason I bought a gun from there.

    Cabelas is being bought out by Bass Pro….. just sayin…

    • 2ThinkN_Do2

      They’re attempting to buy Cabela’s, last news was that the deal may go south as a result of the Cabela’s credit card bank sale not getting completed with Capital One.

  • PersonCommenting

    Expensive and massive properties along with selling overpriced products that dont even attempt to compete with online retailers wont last you long. I can only hope Cabela’s and Bass Pro learn from this.

  • PersonCommenting

    I have never understood how these places make it. They are typically higher priced than my local gun shop with local business owners and true knowledge. Heck their clothing is no bargin either. Why would I pay their prices for jackets and sleeping bags when I can go to my LOCAL outdoor supply store and help out someone in my community who is selling the same stuff for a lower price or the same price as GM, BP, or Cabelas…

  • Dee Stanley

    This is just a Symptom of Retail dying as a whole, Boutique shops will be the only ones to survive because they offer personal touch Service and can work with net based companies… GM has always been slow to embrace the growing trends and with them as the only hold out, I didnt think they would survive…. The only retail stores that will survive will be Free ship to store companies like Bass and Cabelas. If you look at the Shooting, sports and Department stores on a whole you’ll notice the ones who didnt go all in on internet sales are the ones that are dying or have died already (Sports Authority, GM, K-Mart, Sears etc) they were slow to see the market evolve and instead relied on Customer trends in their marketplace and not on the whole Category. K-mart, Sears and others dropped guns a long time ago and it hurt them but they thought the Specialty items were killing them when in the end it will be the only thing that could have saved them…. Ask Sears and K-mart who are one bad Craftsman release away from closing their doors. GM brought in 2 companies that only do specialized business in their category to save them when they should have been trying to undercut their competition with low to middle items…. They picked up the worst 2 lines in shooting Sports for being overpriced to cure the fact that they were being told they were overpriced on the whole….Hazard 4 and 5.11 are hurting themselves because companies like Condor are undercutting them with less robust gear at Way less cost. People didnt want a $85 pair of Khaki’s to shoot in, the wanted the $20 LA Police Gear $20 pair that lasts forever. Sure the 5.11 stuff uses the best Materials but you dont need a pair of pants made of 500D Cordura when ripstop works just as well at 1/10th of the cost. They need more Winchester whitebox 9mm’s at $9/50 and less gloves at $80 a pair. They didnt listen to their customers and it will end up killing them. I go to GM to do what everyone else does to look at what to buy from the internet. If these companies were smart they would open old fashioned Catalog stores with 24hr shipping….you go and look at the item in person and order it from the store and go home and it will be there the next day. it worked that way for a long time until Department stores came along and it will again…. we are finally starting to go from Disposable items covering the market to durable goods being the norm. Technology is starting to slow a bit now in the consumer market after the 30 year blurr we have had and until Quantum computing hits we are not going to be in a huge race anymore (Hopefully) Cellular Phones, TV’s and other items are getting consolidated (Phones, TV, Computers, Cameras etc. turning into 2 devices instead of 8-10.) So we should see a transformation in the Market towards Consolidation as well. instead of 100 car companies, 500 gun companies, 10 Phone companies you’ll see 10 car companies, 50 gun companies and 3 Phone Manufacturers….. it will happen, you’ll see.

  • I’ve been to Cabelas once and was very surprised that a big company like that could charge so much! Yikes. The best deals I saw were clearance items that were still overpriced compared to Amazon or eBay. I think the draw of those places is the shopping experience. The Cabelas I went to in Lacy, WA had trophy mounts, epic static displays, a cafe inside, demos for bows, atv and tractor demo rides. You could touch and handle $1800 binoculars, fondle the rifles and pistols. It was a great experience but no, I didn’t buy anything.

  • CountryBoy

    I’m surprised they lasted this long. They went on an expansion binge about a decade ago, then ran into similar problems. I believe they even closed their HQ in WI and moved to a different location, while trying to enhance stores to compete with Bass Pro and Cabela’s.

    I’ve been in the business long enough to know that the three most important things to a buyer is price, price and price. And Gander had none of them.

    They opened up a big new store just a couple of years ago – next to a Wal-Mart – probably thinking they’d get overflow business from that shopping center, but I never saw more than a few people in there at a time, and seldom any gun sales. They should know better than that, and I suspect they pulled a “Hail Mary” try at joining the big boys. Funny, ’cause at one time around here (midwest) they WERE one of the big boys, but expanding too fast while sales were down is stupid, and they’ve done it before.

    Well, I suppose I’ll see if “clearance” means anything to them now. It didn’t seem to before.

  • Crop Loss

    Several years ago Gander Mountain was bought out by Cabelas, and was out of business for several years and came back as a mail order only outfit, then retail stores. Maybe Bass Pro will do the same thing just to get the retail outlets.

    • 2ThinkN_Do2

      I think you meant, several decades (in 1996) ago, Cabela’s bought Ganders mail order business. Gander never went out of business, and in 2007 Gander bought Overton’s Watersports company so they could get their feet back into direct marketing, mail & online sales. They had a couple lawsuits against Cabela’s and they also filed bankruptcy before they sold the mail order part to Cabela’s, but they never closed down.

  • Kurt Ingalls

    Much like NASCAR and a few other entities, instead of steadily appealing to their base they thought that selling gimmicky tourist length cut camo shorts and plastic kayaks would win over people in NYC and Los Angeles ….LOL…..sadly mistaken……

  • Crop Loss

    I still have two shirts and a couple of travel bags I bought from Cabelas with Gander Mountain logos on them, and they completely disappeared from any west coast business. As for how it went down I don’t remember too much more, except I was surprised when I saw them advertising again as mail order only sales. It seemed that their early catalogs offered a little better prices than Cabelas or Bass Pro and the competition helped us consumers. It seems these days it is better to remove your competition than compete, and only the public suffers from higher prices and lower quality.

  • L. Roger Rich

    I have had several great used gun deals from GM. One has to know what they are looking for. The guns on sale are decent price. Sadly on line stores like Buds beats them and all physical gun stores. No shipping, no tax and a $10 transfer fee at my FFL.

    • ccpotter

      How in the world does an FFL even break even with a $10 transfer fee? Considering all the paperwork they have to do.

      Buds is a bit of a scam — the prices they show are not the real prices, since you have to pay by check to get those, which most people would find inconvenient. they do not guarantee availability if you pay by check. Pay by credit and they mark up by 3%, and they charge you for insured shipping as opposed to the joy of dealing with UPS, Buds, and your local FFL all pointing fingers at each other if the gun is messed up when it arrives at the FFL.

      Also if you are not paying use tax on those online purchases you are breaking the law.

      • L. Roger Rich

        ccpotter. I pay Buds using E-Check. Quite a bit of savings on a $1400 on a $1400 purchase. No 3% and one just has to wait 5 days extra. The hold it for you.
        Buds has lowest prices of any gun store in my area. My FFL is a Pawn Shop/Gunsmith and charges only $10.
        In my State because Buds is out of stie and has no business in it there is NO State Tax on purchases. Over the last decade I have spent thousands with Buds and it has been great. I find Buds very convenient. I have a lot of guns.

      • L. Roger Rich

        You are wrong ccpotter in every thing you stated. What i said is the law not made up fake news like you are. Pull it out son.

  • Rooftop Voter

    Here in Palm Beach County, GM is known as the Gander Jewelry Store. Only time the prices were good was the first week of their opening. Place was packed, parking lot was full. Now, the parking lot is so barren there is enough room to host a Super Bowl. Overpriced boutique atmosphere and the so-called haughty firearms associates are kids who know very little.
    “Have a firearm problem, we will ship it out to a gunsmith.” So much for talking face to face with the individual who is going to work on your piece. Even their sale items are higher than MSRP. No thanks.

  • glenn cheney

    All big box stores serve the sole purpose of being able to see, touch the item you have interest on.
    Then, you go online, tax free, and many times free shipping, and flip the plastic and in days you have the item at the deep deal.
    SEARS, toast, J.C.Penny, mass closings currently of stores.
    As the mall anchors shutter, the malls too soon die.
    A recent article in TFB, touting some mil spec pos rifle, 700 plus and another for a grand, lmao, didn’t even mention what bolt was provided, but, since the rest of the rifle was components I’d toss in the chit bin, odds are it was a 50 buck phosphate carpenter c158, was it even chrome lined in the bcg?
    I looked at it, figured I’d could do the 700 dollar crapped for just UNDER or AT 400 bucks.
    Guys, blood n guts are on the pricing floor as our beloved firearms industry offers us lip service on Pro Amendment II, yet plots and awaited a Hildebeast antigen victory based upon sheer greed.
    Now they eat their young.
    I’m buying 7075-t6 BILLET uppers, complete, for 57.99, just saw billet loers, stripped, 6061, in the 40 dollar range, MOE stocks 25 bucks, I bought Rodgers locking, 28 and 30…Bsrrels, guaranteed from factory, sub moa, 60 bucks to 100, for 616r, or 4150 cvm, some melonited.
    TFB, you want to help your industry supporters. Tell readers now is the tim ed to buy, even if you don’t need any more, lol.
    Those that have, are saturated.
    New gimmicks with acronym lettering make me laugh.
    Complete premium stocks, 50 bucks incl. Buffers, 40 dollar lowers, AR Stoner LPK’s, no FCS, Or two dollar milspec grips, 19.95, at midway of all places, (I ordered three sets, cautious of the finish quality, was very pleased, ordering half a dozen more.)
    I can build match grade premium billet rifles for the price of a mil spec piece of chit off a pawn shop or big box store rack.
    Saturation, CNC machines gone wild.
    We may not see prices this low ever once the inventory excess is worked off.
    So, to make this a P.C. industry comment, get out there people and BUY, BUY, BUY.
    Bestbuy nearly BK’d for the very same reasons.
    Scavenger hunting is fun these days.

    • ccpotter

      If you’re not paying use tax on items bought online, you are breaking the law.

      • glenn cheney

        Where did you get your law degree from, online?
        I suggest you do your civic duty and immediately report me to the online police.
        Check the law. Use tax enforcement is as yet unlegislated and any personal purchases made across state lines, where the purveyor does not maintain any physical presence, is most definitely untaxed. Ga. and either S.C. or Tn., forget which, have a reciprocity agreement.
        Rack me up, 3 LPK’s at 19.95.
        States may attempt to collect on big ticket items.
        When we were closing multimillion dollar tranches at G.E. Comm. , we closed out of state just to avoid the tax stamps.
        Our lawfirm was all Harvard.
        Have at it.

        • glenn cheney

          The manufacturer pays a federal excise tax. States lack the jurisdiction to cross state lines to collect, it has to be at point of sale, in the respective state.
          I do not resell, so no tax number or reporting needed in state of residence.
          States are grousing over perceived loss of saled tax revenues, and if your position were the law of the land, all Palmetto, Anderson, or whom ever definitEly would nail the consumer at the point of sale.
          Report them while you are at it.
          Those are the reasons major corporations leave one state for another.

        • ccpotter

          States can’t force retailers in other states to collect sales/use tax for them. That does not have anything to do with my point. At a minimum, you are supposed to include use taxes on your state tax returns. That enforcement is problematic does not change the fact that evading use tax is illegal.

          • L. Roger Rich

            You are wrong ccpotter. Not all State laws are the same.

  • Realist

    The Exec. Leadership @ Gander Mountain should’ve expected this Bankruptcy…they priced themselves right out of business.

  • Danogo

    They have always been way overpriced. First time I visited one I left laughing…could not imagine anyone shopping there.
    Frankly surprised they lasted this long.

  • CommonCents

    Too bad their stock price isn’t as high as their gun prices.

  • ccpotter

    I don’t get gun owners being gleeful about a very pro-2A gun store
    falling on hard times. If you’re going to root for someone to go
    bankrupt, do it for Dick’s.

    Gander’s prices are high, I get it
    (though their sale prices can be competitive). Their business model is
    based on bringing in new shooters with a non-threatening environment
    that looks and feels like a department store, rather than the
    MSM/Hollywood stereotype of the dingy hole-in-the-wall gun shop full of
    neckbeard militia wackos. That’s how they get away with the higher
    pricing, but is that really a bad thing? People who didn’t grow up with
    firearms and don’t have gun-owning friends are intimidated by the
    process of looking at and buying guns, and stores like Gander provide a
    security blanket. When they get more experienced, they’ll probably go
    elsewhere. But you have to get them in the door.

    Also, people who
    go to brick and mortar stores with no intention of actually buying
    anything, take up the staff’s time asking for advice and looking at
    their inventory, then go home and buy the item from an online retailer,
    deserve to burn in hell. If you plan to buy online, then browse online.
    Not just talking about guns, but it definitely applies here.

  • Maz Gunsmith

    Not a big surprise. Gander Mountain’s used gun prices are laughable, and completely out of touch with reality. I have no sympathy for the management of such greedy business practices, only empathy for their employees.

  • Terry Rajala

    I have no sympathy for Gander Mountain. They declared bankruptcy previously in mid 90’s. While in bankruptcy Cabela’s bought the rights to catalog business including name and logo. Even though they came out of bankruptcy they have never again competed against Bass Pro and Cabela’s because of the lack of a catalog business. Instead of rebranding like they should have they tried going to court to force the court to undermine Cabela’s legal rights to the GM catalog business brand. For GM stupid management equals stupid decisions as they once again find themselves in bankruptcy.

    • ccpotter

      “Even though they came out of bankruptcy they have never again competed
      against Bass Pro and Cabela’s because of the lack of a catalog business.”

      Umm what? They have an online store, and does anybody actually shop from catalogs anymore?

  • arby_63

    The big-box methodology was never going to work long-term in this industry. Just a decade of musical chairs. Gander, Cabela’s, et. al tried their very best to put the local gun store out of business.

    The suppliers were in bed with these big box stores. Now, it appears obvious that the local guy/gal will indeed have the last laugh.

    Gander is no loss. I hope Cabela’s follows them.

  • 2ThinkN_Do2

    Gander & Cabelas’ have both been around longer than many people likely realize. Bass Pro not as long by a decade. They were in a good place till they sold Cabela’s their mail order business and have been trying to get back into the mix since. Expanding through the merge with Overton’s gave them too much overhead cost, too many stores and they didn’t even cover the entire USA. The rapid pace of on-line order shopping and places that get you the best deal on-line has been just another nail in the coffin of old fashioned style business. Shopping has in a way become like a stock purchase, you never know what price you are going to find. Some items vary by 25% place to place and others as much as 100% more. I don’t think the Big Outdoors stores ever intended on putting Ma & Pa outfitter/firearm shop out of business, they just intended on filling the desire of those who want all the goods in one place, rather that’s going to a half dozen or so different stores. People still want to touch stuff before buying, they just need to figure out how to cut overhead. Rapid full fillment is a big part of it.

  • Tim X

    Everyone is so cost conscious and wanting the absolute best deal that these big stores have a very hard time competing with internet sales, much less each other. All the belly aching in comments below show the public’s attitude. Knock over a display of beef jerky because their prices are too high? Please, grow up. Don’t want a store with a wide selection where you can check things out in person? Fine, buy everything over the internet. But don’t be surprised when you have to send a pair of pants or something back and pay shipping charges. And don’t be surprised when the cyberoutlet won’t take it back for a full refund. I’m not saying everyone should pay full MSRP on everything they buy, but just consider that brick and mortar stores do provide value. In the world of photography, there are hardly any physical stores left where you can check out several different models of cameras to see which suits you best. Buyer beware.

    • ccpotter

      B&M stores in Europe are starting to charge “showroom fees” where you have to pay a fee at the door to look at their merchandise and talk to salespeople. If you make a purchase in the store, they credit you the amount of the fee, so the only people who are paying extra are the jerks who come in with no intention of buying anything.

      Not sure why that model hasn’t caught on in the US yet.

      • Tim X

        A very interesting approach! I like going into stores and talking to knowledgeable people when it’s something specialized like guns, cameras, lighting, etc. It’s hard to stay on top and be an expert on everything and with some things I don’t even want to spend the time to try to be an expert on my own. After I talk to specialists, I try to do business with them if the delta isn’t too great. On a $1000 camera for example, I don’t mind paying $75 extra if a person has helped me understand my choices and the tradeoffs by spending a few hours of their time. Often the purchase made after several trips to the store, going home and researching more etc. Everyone has to make a buck at the end of the day. Nevertheless, retailers do need to be competitive.

  • coyotehunter

    Prices and inexperienced sales people will kill any business….

  • OldGringo

    Their prices were always nuts high, like Bass Pro and Cabelas who have good sales in the fall. Academy always beats them on price, but on generic stuff, Walmart is hard to beat. I am seeing Marlin 30-30 for $369 and Rem 870 Express for 269 and Ruger 1022 about $199. Hard to beat those prices. Bass Pro will price match, bought a Weatherby there at Academy sale price, the just made a phone call to verify price. Gander Mountain is a place I always stop, but have never bought a gun there due to price. Also, the online Gun sellers lie Sportsmans Outdoor Superstore, Buds Gun Shop, and Toole Shooting Supply and even Cheaper than Dirt and Sportsman’s Guide have zapped the heck out of sales.In fact Sportmans and Bud even have the military and law enforcement discount available online with only a commission card or military ID, active or retired to prove status. It saves 10%, and I have bought a half dozen at that price. Gander has none of those programs and just not competitive. Hate to see them go, but price is everything n gun sales.

  • jcitizen

    When I was a kid, we couldn’t wait to get the Gander Mountain catalogue in the mail! It was just a wish book, because we could barely afford anything advertised in it, but it was fun to look through. This was before we ever heard of Cabela’s or Dicks Sporting Goods. We always ended up going to the local guy for fishing stuff, and the other local guy for guns. In fact when a local discount store opened – this was new to us! It was a no big name store, but the prices were so cheap compared to what we were used to, that it flat took over. Kmart and ALCO put them out of business. It seems like Gander Mountain should have either pushed the online strategy earlier or opened store in markets that had no big top sporting goods locally. They did neither, and was too late pulling the trigger – I’m not a bit surprised at the news.

  • rambo jones

    LOL, their “clearance sale” probably brigs prices down to list price! Gander was SOOOO overpriced on most everything in their stores!

  • John Henry Bicycle Lucas

    A few years ago one opened where I live. Grand opening day I went in and pair of socks. 20.00 and up. ONE pair. Nope didn’t think that was store for me, so went to Academy Sports. Bought stuff there.

  • JamesDrouin

    “BANKRUPT: Gander Mountain Weighing their Options”

    Well, their ‘options’ better include improving their customer service, both at the retail and corporate levels, or the investors should walk away.

  • LibertyDwells

    The “Big Guns” came into a lot of areas imagining they would put all the small and local shops out of business. The short term impact was very much exactly that. But the survivors prospered due to the big chains high prices. Other locals opened up, realizing they could beat the big store prices and still make money. Around here we now have MORE locals than we did before those big chains came in…and the big chains are dying.

    Capitalism and the free market in action. Good riddance to the losers.

    Now if Wal Mart would just die…

  • squareWave

    Their prices are outrageous. That doesn’t work in an era where everyone can hop online and find much better deals. The local Cabela’s store is priced higher than online vendors too, but they do at least have a wide variety of items in stock and sometimes that makes up for the higher price when I am in the mood to browse their reloading and ammo section.

  • Jason Adams

    Well I guess the stores that walk you to the door when you buy gun from them are losing clientele. I doubt that that policy of not trusting a customer with a gun after a background check is not the whole reason but it doesn’t help. Also they all have a no guns in store policy as well. I only buy at stores that are gun friendly if I can help it. I can understand a sign that says if your carrying keep it in the holster. Or no unholstered guns. That makes sense and still does not insult your customers. Tell the lawyers and insurance parasites to stick it.

  • Boss

    Went to the GM in Houston in the early 2000s. They had great deals on ARs. Didn’t buy one. Found out later GM and another store had a lot of Bushmasters that were supposed to be sent back to BM because of bent barrels.
    A GM open near where I lived. I went to look a few times and left because anything I looked at cost too much. I could got across the street to Academy and buy it for sometimes half or less.
    My son gave me GM cash cards for my birthday, so I bought a S&W 15-22, costly. Their machine rejected the card, Finally got that settled. The clerk, I suspect, tried to not use the card.
    The whole time I was buying the rifle the clerk had an attitude like I was doing something wrong. The look on his face was like he was handling three day dead fish.
    Haven’t been back!

  • Endlesspath

    It’s called capitalism.. if you can’t compete, you disappear. If you don’t want to have competitive pricing, and you can’t identify your target audience/clientele to focus on —- goodbye.

  • Dirk Dasterdly

    This will be a “you asked for it” change in our industry over the next 10 years.

    When streaming video and $1/day rentals (that are now $2/day) at Redbox basically put Blockbuster out of business, well, that was just evolution. Technology replaced an outdated concept. You didn’t really need a teenage clerk to recommend a good 1950s Alford Hitchcok. Now we can read reviews online and the movie is the movie.

    For guns, however, the move to online sales has helped put an end to GM and many others. We own a small gun shop. We have a sister business that pays the rent and we keep very low overhead. But probably half of my 4473s are transfers from online. The problem with not shopping B&M or locally is that eventually the internet buying to save a buck or two will put most gun shops out of business. You won’t have the expertise or advice. You won’t be able to hold that Glock 19 that you hear so much about in your hand to realize that you don’t like the grip angle. And you cannot return your $500 purchase just because “it doesn’t fit”. We had one customer buy online and transfer in and then he “refused the gun” because he though it had been used. Not my f-in problem. Pay the $25 transfer fee and deal with the guy in Wisconsin that you bought it from. Good luck. All to save a few bucks. I’ve even had two people in one day buy online and transfer in and it turns out I had better prices out the door than what they just paid after shipping, cc fees, transfer fees, etc.

    So GM didn’t evolve with the times, but for something like guns it’s tough. We fight the pikers every day. Someone wants to come in and pick our brains, hold 10 guns, and then think they’re clever because then they buy it online. They used us for free and then spend money with some faceless online computer system. Eventually, that mentality will put gun stores out of business (except us) and you’ll be hard pressed to figure out how to hold a gun before you buy it or get someone’s opinion on what to buy. Not everyone needs the help, but if you’ve ever gone in a store to pick up a gun to see how it feels, then you DID need the help. And you should pay for that help. Either buy the gun there or at least pay the owner for “consulting services”. Those guns in those cases aren’t on loan from the manufacturer and the guv-ment isn’t subsidizing the rent.

    Buying accessories online (because no FFL transfer is needed) also is hurting GM and other stores. The only real solution is to add a gun range. But then the crybabies will say “$10 for all day no-limit on guns is ridiculous! It should be $5!” or whatever. Every forum is filled with people complaining that charging per gun or per hour or per person or anything more than free is too much. And then they also cry about ammo being $2/box more at the range. But since gun stores are losing gun sales and losing “big league” in accessories, they have to make the rent somehow. Don’t like it? Go shoot online or buy some property and build your own range.

    So in the end, the thing that probably doomed GM (online sales by Brownell, Midway, PSA, Buds, et al) will be the source for people complaining in the future about why no gun stores carry this or that for them to “see and hold”. I think we (B&M stores) should develop a consultation culture. You can look all you want. But if you want to enter the petting zoo (touch the merchandise), it’s a $25 consultation fee that can be applied to your purchase. If you still want to buy online, well, then I’m glad I could help you make an informed decision and thank you for paying me for my time. I’m sure you don’t work for free either. Oh, and the internet sales tax thing is another killer for B&Ms. On guns that only have a 15% margin to begin with, absorbing a 8.25% tax to compete on out the door pricing is brutal.

  • 93fd3s

    Gander is horribly overpriced on guns both used and new…but let me let you in on a secret…the Gander Mountain Mastercard! I charge everything I can to the card and make an online payment every few days. In a month, I can earn $80-120 in rewards. So after a few months, I can walk in and pick up a new handgun for a *very* reasonable price. I have never actually gotten a “free” gun as I usually can’t wait quite that long but I don’t pay anywhere near MSRP – and that is what GM prices to.

  • Zebra Dun

    Their products are pricing most buyers out of their stores.

  • OLDNAVYVET

    I recently bought a flashlight from them. It was defective out of the box. I returned it and the gave me a refund of the retail price. However I was still out the shipping both ways. Nearly $10.00 for something that was not my fault.

  • Randy Adams

    I’ve trained at GM Academy a few times and found the class to be useful and I really enjoyed the virtual reality rooms too. I feel if they had expanded the facilities to many locations and lowered the cost of range time, people would be lining up daily to use them. The store here in Evansville could have expanded into a vacant location next door and had an awesome range facility. I suggested it to GM corporate and they decided costs were to high but market demands here would have supported an affordable venture like that. Apparently the educated bunch at GM never bothered to look at market trends and competition. I was lucky to find a couple of great handguns at GM that weren’t found elsewhere around here thanks to GM buyers sending only 1 of each to my local store. Sometimes it’s just being at the right place and time to find what your looking for. To bad GM has become another victim of mismanagement.

  • Gander??? Never heard of them.

  • Jd.coyote

    I could see GM going down several years ago when they decided to lay off or terminate their experienced employees and replace them with cheap people who know nothing about the outdoor industry.. they really should dump the people who made that decision. Now we have bass pro buying up everything and controlling the market. cabelas has the best people in the market and I will support them.

  • John

    The only thing I remember about GM is asking the gun guy there if a P229 Sig slide was stainless (it IS). He said “no”, then “I don’t know…maybe”….then he walked away. There was a computer not two feet away where he could have checked. He just didn’t care, so I left.

  • karl

    The only time I bought a gun at GM was about 15 years ago. I looked at a Savage Mk II .22lr at my local gun shop and they wanted $199. I went to GM and they had the same rifle for $129.

  • 300 wm

    clearance prices=other stores regular prices.

  • jonp

    Gander here in NC seems to be trying to “out EMS” EMS with overpriced Volvo Mom clothing and the firearms are way overpriced. I’m not sure what their business model is but it’s not working.

  • Erick Matta

    That’s a sincere plea & solid argument that hasn’t fallen on deaf ears for me. Thanku for taking the time & blessings to you Dirk.

  • Scott Spellman

    so should i wait to pay off my GM credit card lol

  • Paul White

    If I ever live near good LGS’s I will gladly do that (we only have two and one’s run by a jerk and the other’s…also run by a jerk with the added benefit of being pricey). Small cities have their downsides I guess