Resting Your Barrel On Your Shoe? We Have An Accessory For That

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There are plenty of accessories that make us scratch our head. Rail mounted tactical testicles comes to mind. But then there are some accessories that are just plain dangerous. This would be one of them. The premise behind this accessory is for the gentleperson shooter using a single shot break action or double barreled shotgun in a sport like trap or skeet. Or a hunter who is too lazy to actually hunt anything and has people and dogs to flush birds to the shooter. In either scenario there is a lot of down time. So shooters get complacent and rest the barrel of the gun on their shoe. This accessory will help keep your shoe from getting dirty. Since the guns are single shot and typically left open they are rationalized as being safe to flag oneself. However this does violate one of the firearm safety rules. Always keep your firearm pointed in a safe direction. Your foot is not a safe direction.

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Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

Any questions please email him at nicholas.c@staff.thefirearmblog.com


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  • Bill

    These have been around forever. I use one in training as an example of how not to handle a shotgun, no matter how long you’ve been standing at a roadblock or how shiny your boots are.

    • Nicholas C

      $20k is not a lot. I met a guy who has four Kohler shotguns. Single barrel. They are like $35k. There are even more expensive shotguns.

      • AK

        Try $200k Holland&Hollands, for example. Maybe the $15-20k range is the upper limit for actual additional performance, and that’s “surprisingly” the price range of the guns you see at the olympics at the moment. I’m sure someone could make you a shotgun from damascus titanium and dinosaur bone, and sell it for 10 million, but it’s all a pissing contest.

        • Sunshine_Shooter

          If I had a $200,000 shotgun, I’d pay someone else to hold it for me while I wasn’t shooting. Still no reason to point it at yourself.

        • AK™

          Cabot stepping into making shotguns now?

      • Bill

        Unfortunately, an excess of disposable income is not a problem that I am burdened with 😉

      • derpmaster

        I always shrug when I see someone at the clays range with a Kohler or Krieghoff. More money than brains, unless you are truly a tier -3 shotgun operator that’s going through 100k rounds a year. $1500 to $2000 can get you one hell of a fine performing shotgun.

      • iksnilol

        Worth the money to some extent, though.

        These people spend more money on the ammo than the gun. I mean, they wear out the bloody hinge on a break action. Imagine how many rounds that takes.

    • hking

      Uhhh you do know these are only used for over/under guns that are open with empty chambers……. there is a 0.00% chance of being injured unless an airplane dropped out of the sky and landed on your head. Reading the back of the product package would tell you as much. These are a mainstay at every trap range in the world and there has never been a problem.

      • The_Automator

        Never? I was at a range where a guy took the end of his shoe, and a couple toes, off. There is never any reason to point a gun at yourself.

        • AK

          OK, let’s agree that these are too dangerous for hillbilly Americans, and the rest of the world will go on as they have for the past couple of hundred years with no problems.

          • The_Automator

            The range was in Lancashire :X

          • AK

            Well, there are idiots on every continent. In this case it seems a few of the colonists missed their boat. ; )

      • stephen

        “there is a 0.00% chance of being injured”

        Its usually after one says this that they do something stupid.

        😉

      • Bill

        Yeah, that’s the theory…

  • Budogunner

    No.

  • AK

    These are meant to decrease shooter fatigue when shooting field clays (ie. when there is not a fixed firing position akin to trap, with a rubber mat for resting your barrel). You only load your break-action shotgun prior to taking the shot, clear your gun after the shot and then rest it. The gun is always empty and broken when it’s resting on this, so it would not be a breach of any safety protocol.

    • Jay

      One would expect more toe-less old farts at the skeet range if this were a problem.

      • Sunshine_Shooter

        Maybe the ones missing toes don’t show up anymore. Confirmation bias, not statistical proof.

        • Billy Jack

          Shhhh. Forget all that numbers facts mumbo jumbo. If I have a rumor, personal story or long held belief about something it’s worth more than your fancy calculator talk.

    • Phillip Cooper

      What’s wrong with a sling?

      • AK

        Well, sporting shotguns usually don’t have any place for them, and slinging the gun would require cocking it back together which is a clear safety breach at a shotgun range.

    • The_Automator

      It is a direct breach of multiple firearms safety rules. Treat all guns as if they are loaded and do not point a gun at anything you do not wish to destroy. There’s two rules right there.

      • AK

        Umm…but the gun is broken and you can see the empty chambers. You’re not pointing the gun as it’s not “put together”.
        It’s not meant for resting your Mossy 500 while gunnin for ducks.

        • KestrelBike

          They’ll lose their minds when they see skeet shooters with their finger on the trigger before they’re actually ready to fire….

          • Sunshine_Shooter

            I watch shotgun competitions fairly regularly and it drives me nuts that they have their fingers on the triggers so much. I haven’t seen a, ND so far so it must not be that big of a problem, but I’m too cautious t do it myself.

          • LG

            The finger is on the trigger only when the weapon is pointed down range. Even if there is an accidental discharge, the shot is projected down range with the trap house at most in danger. There is therefore no danger to personnel. Some times the triggers are actually out of the guns when cleaning or changing such as for a Perazzi, etc!

          • LG

            Some people will not shoot with competitors in trap who use release triggers. For Trap and skeet competition a release trigger is top notch. But it is a rattlesnake which can bite one at any moment of distraction.

          • Bill

            Release triggers are mentioned in my weapons safety and crime scene lectures- unloading and safing a gun with one is sporty if you don’t know they exist.

          • LG

            Not really. If the weapon is not yours or you have not been thoroughly checked out with that particular weapon, then you should not be touching or handling it. The rest is training and concentration. There is nothing finer than a release trigger in a trap shotgun.

          • Bill

            Sorry, but if someone steals your zooty release-trigger megabuck shotgun and we recover it, we pretty much have to clear and unload it. Evidence room managers get right pissy when you try to book in a loaded gun, just like tow truck drivers do when having to tow an impounded car when there’s a dead body in the trunk. Some people are funny like that.

      • LG

        A client before one of my safaris blew his foot off with his 600 NE in that fashion. The stupid fool thought that the gun was empty because the recoil was so great. He thought both barrels fired at the same time. He had naturally missed his eye and had to have the PH harvest it. It is good that the fool client hurt only himself and not the PH or one of the trackers.

        • BryanS

          And, that means he was a fool for not verifying that it was unloaded. If the gun is actually empty, then we know it to be empty, right?

          Especially with a break action, where you can see both barrel and the ejector.

      • BryanS

        Im guessing you cant have a gun exist at all, because at some point, when holstered or carried, its pointing in an unsafe direction.

        Unloaded, broken open, and pointed at just about anything is a safe direction.

        • The_Automator

          How many people do you think have shot themselves with “unloaded” guns?

          • BryanS

            Usually with guns that they havent checked the barrel. Do you ever clean your barrel? Im betting, after you check that there is no ammunition in it, visibly and physically, you treat it like a piece of metal.

          • iksnilol

            None. It is physcially impossible for a firearm to materialize a cartridge in its chamber and fire it.

            Now people tihnking a loaded gun isn’t loaded? Plenty.

          • Elijah Decker

            Well, there is an astronomically small chance of a cartridge quantum tunneling into the chamber of a firearm, given multiples of the expected lifespan of the universe.

      • R Three

        Rules aren’t law and are therefore entirely subjective to personal preference.

        • The_Automator

          Sure. They’re also a good indication of who shouldn’t own guns.

          • R3

            Last time you used a hammer and nail did you wear your safety glasses and full face shield? Did you use a nail starter and gloves so you don’t smash your fingers? Anytime you use a hammer you must wear all your proper PPE according to striking safety rules. Because if you don’t, you’re probably not qualified to use a hammer.

          • Matt Bennett

            You sound like a liberal. @The_Automator

          • The_Automator

            Because I think those that can’t handle a firearm safely should probably abstain from owning one?

            Do you think people who don’t know how to fly should own planes?

          • Matt Bennett

            Does the constitution limit who can or cannot fly?

          • The_Automator

            Did I say anywhere that someone shouldn’t be allowed to own guns?

          • Matt Bennett

            That’s not exactly the point. I think anyone should be able to own whatever the heck they want to own, because America.

          • The_Automator

            The point is the difference between can and should, which apparently you’re having trouble grasping.

      • Dan

        So when your guns are in your vehicle they are pointed straight down at the road right? If not your breaking both rules.

      • iksnilol

        Uh, tell me for the loaf of Christ almighty how a broken open shotgun is going to shoot your toe off?

        The same way that Form 1 SBR that is unassembled is going to shoot up an office?

        Me thinks not likely.

    • Otm Shooter

      While I’m familiar with shotgun sports and agree that this item has a genuine purpose…this should not be available at walmart for their general clientele. lol One might assume its for all firearms and occasions.

    • Budogunner

      “Treat all guns as if they are loaded” is in every safety protocol I’ve ever heard of

      • Vizzini

        How do you manage to clean your guns? A broken-open O/U or SxS shotgun is effectively disassembled for cleaning.

  • Ranger Rick

    When I first got into skeet shooting years ago I decided that this was one habit I would not develop.

  • Kevin Riley

    I have an accessory for that after you blow your foot off – a tourniquet.

  • Shotgunners often have a very different idea of safety, I think that stems from the fact that with shot their guns are less likely to be lethal than handguns where the Cooper’s rules spawned out of.

    But even still this product has a very specific market, using break open guns where this is relatively safe to us. I wouldn’t use it (not only being that it is a violation of the safety rules but my gun choice rules it out), but if I see it at the shotgun range I don’t get bent out of shape about it.

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    I will not even take the slightest most infinitesimal chance at having to go through the rest of my life explaining how I was that guy who accidentally shot his toes off. Id rather accidentally shoot myself in the head.
    At least then I wont be around to be humiliated.

    • iksnilol

      But you can then wear a pegleg and win every costume competition ever.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        I need my feet so when my ammo goes dry I can run.

        • iksnilol

          Or… get creative with that pegleg. Either go for an M4 in the peg leg or a bottle of rum. I am talking a ginourmous bottle of rum, so you can always get wasted… on the go.

          Just saying, there’s a pretty big silver lining here.

  • Fuddly

    I wonder if Nick had a pistol stuffed in his waistband as he wrote this. Used correctly, a toe cap is less likely to result in injury than normal carry of a holstered gun, at a whopping 0.00%. This type of muzzle protector is meant to be used with a break-action shotgun, supporting the unloaded gun between clays. It is literally more likely to have your carry piece fire due to mechanical failure than it is for unloaded, opened breech shotgun to fire.

    Now, I am certain that someone is going to come in with some anecdote about the “three fellas” he knew that blew their feet off at his “range.” For that, I am sorry your cousin blew that hole in his foot and your patio with his Mossberg. At a real range, you are not going to be loading the shotgun until immediately before shooting, nor will you be closing the action until that time.

    For those that care, Foxy sells a magnetic pad that performs the same function, but is used by sitting the pad on the ground and lifting it to move with the muzzle. In years past, there were other options, such as pads the rested the shotgun well forward of the toe.

    • Bill

      So, if you see someone with an autoloader or pump gun shooting clays and using one of these you’d stop them and disallow it?

      I can’t count the cases I know of in which people were shot with “empty” guns.

      • anon

        Yes, I most certainly would. Though I haven’t seen anyone do it at any of the clubs I’ve shot skeet at in the last 10 years. I’ve never encountered a shooter using one of these with anything other than a over/under.

  • Anomanom

    Can we take a moment to decry that, oh god, rail mounted testicles are a thing that exists.

    • raz-0

      I’ll join you, mainly because this then becomes the least stupid discussion in the comments section for this post.

    • billyoblivion

      I refuse to believe that there is such a thing.

      • Dan

        Oh they certainly exist. Tac sac i believe is what it is called

        • billyoblivion

          Look, there was only one Highlander movie and there is NO SUCH THING.

    • Sandydog

      As there are plastic testicles that real men can hang from their trucks’ trailer hitches, by all that’s Right and Holy there should be little machined-aluminum black, DE, or camo (woodland or urban optional) testicles with M1913 rail fittings for the Man Whose AR Has Almost Everything. They would hang just forward of the vertical grip, under the infrared red, green, and plaid laser, and alongside the can-opener attachment and DVD player.
      I expect to see this must-have accessory present on most, if not all, of the ARs carried by Operators that Operate Operationally in the near future.

  • Sianmink

    A broken open shotgun is one of the exceptions, as it is clearly unloaded and clearly unable to fire in that condition, obvious to all observers. This sort of thing comes up once or twice a year on sites like this.
    It’s a non-issue guys. Do you follow rule 1 with a disassembled AR15 upper or glock slide?

    • Otm Shooter

      You’d be surprised how many AR uppers I’ve seen with a live round in the chamber.

      • Jay

        Taken to it’s extreme, doesn’t that mean it’s “unsafe” to run a patch through the barrel of your AR upper after breaking it open?

    • Bland Samurai

      Poor firearms handling habits have led to a few recent incidents. The ND indoors at a trap meeting in OH(?) comes to mind. Luckily no one died but ~ 10 people were hit by ricocheting pellets. Devices like this lead to complacency. If your arms get tired holding a shotgun– go to the f’ing gym!!!

      • Sianmink

        Was that with a break-action shotgun? I’m guessing no.

  • noob

    Okay, how about one of these toe rests that is leather backed with 1 inch of PAXCON build up spall and frag coating and then one 1 inch of AR500 steel plate.

    There is no way birdshot is getting through that.

  • Julio

    “Or a hunter who is too lazy to actually hunt anything and has people and dogs to flush birds to the shooter.”
    I take it you would decline an invitation to shoot driven game. ; )

    • Chrono777

      This was the statement that stood out to me. We are all on the same team so saying something like this only divides us.

  • BryanS

    I once read a very good point on things like this (IIRC< it was in regards to shoulder holsters, which while covering the trigger, will point the firearm at something, like 99% of all holsters). St. Cooper's rules only make a good day bad when followed as absolutes and you break 2 of them at a time.

    All guns are always loaded. – No they are not. In this case, they are two visibly open steel tubes.
    Never point the gun at anything you are not willing to destroy.
    Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target. – Which is not in play on a trap range when you are in a waiting position.
    Be sure of your target and what is beyond it. – Not in play in this discussion.

    If we were to blindly follow all 4 at all times, you could never carry a gun, clean a gun, or do anything but build it at the range, shoot it there, and leave it there.

  • John

    So, when did brake-barrel veterans stop resting their open weapons over their bent arms while the shoulder stock was under their armpit? Is it a rule the muzzle has to rest on the ground? Just a curious inquiry.

  • Mountain1911

    Oh my, I hope you’re kidding. These have been around for many decades. Who can recall reading a story of a trap shooter shooting their own foot? I sure can’t.

    However, who can remember any stories of someone shooting them self while using a “safe” accessory, like a holster, for example? All of us can, I’m sure.

    Is this an accessory that’s “just plain dangerous”? Based on actual accidents, or lack thereof, certainly not. We could call holsters a dangerous accessory long before a shotgun toe rest (but we don’t).

    We don’t get worked up over holsters and there is absolutely ZERO reason to get worked up over this accessory either.

  • FelixD

    Nick,
    I hope you avoid the Grand this week. Those dangerous old farts in Southern Illinois are killing and maiming themselves by the score with their careless use of their toe rests. Stick to your 3 gun and flashlight stuff. This is minutia at best.

  • Kivaari

    I had a customer do that while trap shooting. He found that you don’t play with the trigger on a Browning A5 20 ga., as it blows a neat hole through the foot. It may be accepted practice, but that doesn’t make it a wise practice.

  • Out of the Fray

    These have been around forever on a trap line. Used only with shotguns that break open. Not used with semis or pumps.

  • iksnilol

    Oh noes, mah safety, somebody resting an open break action on their foot.

  • Cory C

    It’s like all the crappiest ideas in the universe coalesced into one product.

  • ThePontificator

    And sold at Wal-Mart, no less (note the shelf SKU price tag). I can buy one of those leather flapper thingys while staring at the perpetually empty shelf space where the .22lr used to be.

  • Jerry Minor

    I am guessing that you never look down the barrel of your open firearms to check if it is clean. Resting an OPEN shotgun on the toe is perfectly safe, just like examining the bore of any other OPEN weapon.

  • M-cameron

    complain about “safety” all you want…..but a shotgun that is broken open is not a danger to anyone….

    literally no different then going down range leaving your rifle with the bolt open.

  • Mike Lashewitz

    I wonder what the statistics are for accidental firing while resting “on a shoe”.

  • TheGrammarMan

    LMAO the author needs to get out more. Those shoe rests have around for decades and decades. I think mine is a Galco. First time I wore more Skeet boots to an IDPA match, the match director – who barely knows what a shotgun is – asked what the leather thing on my shoe was. When I told him he turned green. For a moment he thought I was going to rest my 1911 barrel on it.

  • JoelM

    Proper use aside… We all know eventually some fool is going to buy one and use it with something that’s not a shotgun. Especially since its being sold at Wal-Mart.

  • Will

    That device has been on the market for at least fifty years.
    I took up skeet and trap in 1967 and it was available then. The more serious ( smart) shooters who mentored me had them.
    Never saw one that was that inexpensive.
    Problem is, I’ve seen shooters rest loaded shotguns on them. That’s just pure Dumbassedness!!

  • Matt Bennett

    As somebody who worked at a clay shooting range for years I can tell you, sport shooters are NOT the most intelligent crowd. Like golfers, but with more magic and voodoo.

  • Core

    At some point this will make bad habits come to life.