Deputies Find Cache Of Weapons While Serving Child Porn Arrest Warrant

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In Navarro County, TX Sheriff’s deputies were serving an arrest warrant to 79-year-old Harvey Alex Strain for possession of child pornography. When they arrested him he had a loaded handgun on him. They searched his residence and found a cache of weapons. 45 firearms were discovered. Some of them possibly machine guns so the ATF were called in.

 

Below is a photo of Strain.

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Here is the residence where they arrested him and found an arsenal of weapons.

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I am not familiar with the two beltfeds but the AR looks like it might have a 3rd pinhole.

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Another belt fed weapon.

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Some more AR15s and UZIs. One has a stock. Could it be an SBR or possibly a select fire UZI?

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This one is the most intriguing. It looks to be a USAS 12. A somewhat rare shotgun that is select fire. During the 90s Gilbert Equipment Co. tried to bring in semi-automatic versions of the USAS12 into the US. However Senator Bentsen deemed the USAS12 “having no sporting purpose” and they were not imported. So how Strain got his hands on one is very interesting.

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A shame such a collection of firearms belonged to a scumbag. Most likely these firearms will be destroyed if the Navarro County Sheriffs do not keep them. Unfortunately they will never be in the hands of civilians again. I wish there was a Gun Rescue program where law abiding citizens can rescue guns from bad homes.



Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

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  • HB

    Well, in fact very small numbers of semi-auto only versions were exported to US before it being declared as a ‘destructive device’; I remember a few articles about it on american gun magazines around 1990-1991, and I myself even have a copy of Japanese “GUN” magazine which ran quite a detail article about it!

    • Anon

      Is the USAS actually a good shotgun? That’s what I’m curious about.

      • HB

        hiking already posted good answer(with somewhat strong language though;;)- well I don’t think it’s a good one. It had some potential but the manufacturer(Daewoo) had no experience in making shotguns, and actually had not much experience on overall firearms manufacturing/design at that time….. I think if they had enough time to receive feedbacks and improve the design, USAS-12 could become relatively good one, but right after it became Class 3 item in the US, Daewoo completely gave up(now they don’t have any spare parts or tooling whatever related to USAS-12), and now it’s only virtue is it’s rareness.

      • me ohmy

        it sucked dude… buddy of mine had one before they went DD, he said it was a terrible execution and he wasn’t sad to sell it off.

        • Anon

          Thanks for the input.

  • BattleshipGrey

    I can just see the headline now, “gun collecting gateway drug to child porn?”

    Anyway, glad they caught the perv!

  • Grandpappy fiddy

    I wish there was a gun rescue program- I would take one of those .50s home, give it a good bath and feed it until its hearts content

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      They are good guns, they just need to be loved. The difference between a good gun and a bad gun is it’s owner.

      • Fred Sanford

        WELL SAID !

      • Longhaired Redneck

        Actually, the same could be said for 🐕 dogs. Dogs are often misunderstood and demonized by those who are unfamiliar with animals in ways very similar to the ways firearms are misunderstood and demonized by those unfamiliar with inanimate objects.

  • Guy

    I’m more impressed by his constructions ‘skills’ because the whole house looks like it was made from OSB.

    • Bill

      That’s a white trash thing – some people should just list their address as “Celotex on Gob Pile Road.”

      At least it doesn’t have wheels on it, or on the part we can see.

  • Bill

    I worked a case, and got convictions, on a child molester who had victimized female family members for generations. He lived in a similar “house” on a couple dozen acres and had sprinkled his property with escape kits, including camo and several SKSs. When we hit his door he decided to draw down on a Deputy with a POS revolver that turned out to have a broken mainspring. The Deputy did a disarm and took him to the floor, rapidly.

    Sex offenders, particularly those who victimize kids, often choose to go hard – they realize that no matter what, life is not going to treat them well.

    I hate having to search shitholes like his; there can be things squirreled away everywhere, you dig through piles of trash and worse, then you have to go home and shower in bleach afterwards. People wouldn’t believe what places like that smell like.

    • Nandor

      The guy in your story was actually the Sons of Guns guy wasn’t it. 🙂

    • derpmaster

      grab sks, go diddle inawoods?

    • Tassiebush

      The thing that always gets me with pedos is how much self belief they have and how groomed people around them can be.

      • Bill

        I specialized in child sexual exploitation cases for a number of years, and came to the conclusion that getting a pedophile to change their sexual preferences would be as difficult/impossible as getting a “normal” adult with non-criminal sexual preferences to change theirs to something criminal, like pedophilia or rape. Some people just ain’t wired right.

        In the case I mentioned, I tracked down women in their late 50’s/early 60’s who’d been victimized by the guy when they were in their early teens or younger. It was “normal” in their extended family; he started as a teenager and was in his 60’s when he was finally stopped, though he’ll do it again when he gets out of prison.

        • Tassiebush

          Geeze the damage that guy would have done! Totally agreed there is no prospect of fixing them. It’s how they are and they are always going to be a threat and in virtually all cases they will be released at some point and eventually no one will be monitoring them. People really need to be mindful of who their kids are around, who might be inserting themselves into the family circle and what situations create opportunities for these folks.

        • RICH

          We had an area in the County I worked where everyone was ‘inbred’! Pitiful talking to a young person with physical & mental ‘defects’ that was trying to explain to you that her brother and her father were the same person….. Too many people have no clue of some of the atrocities that are going on in our country…. yet we are more ‘civilized’ than many other countries. Just look at Islam….. ! !

          • buzzman1

            I was a BT company XO in the mid 80’s and had a kid that looked like he was the guy playing the banjo on the movie “Deliverance”. Missing most of his teeth, sever curvature of the spine, not very smart etc etc etc. And he had a girl friend back home (probably his sister) he was going to marry. I was quite happy to separate him from the army.

          • RICH

            Wasn’t it a great when you could take things to the edge to achieve your goal as long as you didn’t break the law ? I was doing a homicide case and was accused by a defense attorney of ‘kidnapping’ his client just because I pulled the guy out of court to take him for a polygraph…. ! ! I’m glad that it was all in the past !

          • Bill

            The case I described was pretty old, and was one of the first to test paternity based on DNA. I got a warrant for the guy’s blood, pretty much kidnapped a lab tech to draw it, and personally drove the sample from the jail to a lab 200 miles away – the testing proved he’d sired a kid by a family member.

    • Old Vet

      My only question is why you guys didn’t give the guy a dirt nap when he drew.

      • Bill

        The Deputy who was first through the door was a real stud and serious martial artist who would not have hesitated to light him up if he felt the need but was able to do a disarm instead. His skill was why he was first through the door.

        It may be true that dead men tell no tales, but they also don’t confess.

        • Patrick ONeil

          Also, there’s no way he was all alone. He was making money off his perversion, hence the abundant disposable income available purchase LOTS of expensive hardware. Taking the perv alive should (hopefully) lead to others.

          Inmates tend to really hate pedos so I think it likely he will get his proper reward from fellow inmates in prison. I’d say whomever guts him like a fish should get paroled and a medal.

          • RICH

            Are you from Illinois by chance Pat ?

        • Old Vet

          I have been there done that, so I don’t want you to think I was questioning, but merely speaking rhetorically. Kudos to all LEO, I miss the work myself.

          • RICH

            I miss the ‘people’ Old Vet….. I was ‘toasted’ after 30 years ! I could never do that job again in today’s political climate towards Law Enforcement ! I really feel for the youngsters out there.
            Stay safe……

        • AirborneSoldier

          The man accused is 79. Ninja deputy did the right thing.

          • Bill

            My guy was in his 60s, but the coroner can’t tell if you were shot and killed by an old guy with a gun or a young guy with a gun. They weren’t called “equalizers” for nothing.

    • RICH

      Amen Bill, …. been there & done that ! What I always hated the most were the ‘roaches’ ! ! You would leave a place like that , shake all your gear & clothing out and still feel like your skin was crawling ! So glad I’m retired Bro.

  • Dickie

    Always keep the uzi next to the cheese balls

    • Giolli Joker

      Looks more like an Ingram MAC-10 to me.

      • more like a cobray m11/9 which unless modified is semi auto from the factory.
        they are used as stand ins for mac-11s though in movies and tv

    • JumpIf NotZero

      And your full auto AR and uzi outside on the concrete laying around. If they found no contraband and the weapons were all legal – he should still be arrested for unethical treatment of firearms.

  • Graham Best

    Interesting. I searched the web and read several news accounts of the arrest. No mention was made (that I could find) of finding child pornorgraphy, the purpose for the raid.

    • Fox Hunter

      that’s cause he had pictures of boys, the media will never report child pornography unless it is hetero cause they know it will look bad for the sex freaks and pervs.

      • Vizzini

        Or they didn’t find anything at all.

        They’ll confiscate his computer, go through it with forensics apps, find an old deleted cache photo of Traci Lords and bang, he’s done for.

        • codfilet

          Or possibly, the porn images were computer-generated-not real children at all. As repugnant as we find that, it would be like being charged with murder for all the guys you killed in “Call of Duty”

      • Devil_Doc

        What is a “sex freak”?

        • Anon

          Judging by the word “hetero”, you can probably make an accurate guess on what they mean by “sex freak”.

        • iksnilol

          Queerosexualists.

  • Surfgun

    I spy a DAEWOO!!!

  • Bruce

    The guy could be a perv or he might be someone that pissed off the wrong people. An arrest isn’t a conviction or even proof of wrong doing.

    • MrEllis

      Yeah, you might want to pick another dude to go out on a branch for…

      • Bruce

        I don’t care if it is Charles manson. Due process is due process. The medit is not due process.

        • Joseph Goins

          The presumption of guilt is high on this one in the court of public opinion.

          • May

            Most people who aren’t fans of child porn don’t take kindly to people who are.

        • MrEllis

          Okay, you stick with that. We’ll meet in a few months and see how it works out. Weird how a guy has a clutch of guns and you extend all sorts of liberties to him… I’m willing to place a sizable bet on him having child porn and him also losing freedom due to that. What ya willing to bet?

          • Bruce

            What liberties? The guy is in jail awaiting trial for child pornography charges. He’ll get a trial and he’s probably guilty, but I don’t KNOW that yet and neither do you. I personally think our justice system works pretty well. People don’t normally get arrested for no reason but it does happen. That’s why we have judges and juries.

          • MrEllis

            Whoa, guilt? You burn your ACLU card or something? You can’t just throw out accusations like that, Due process and the like…

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      Very true, we need to remember this.

    • Bill

      Judges don’t sign off on arrest warrants because someone was pissed off. For all we know he’d already been indicted by a Grand Jury.

      • gunsandrockets

        Judges have the nasty habit of signing any warrant. There is a real problem with due process in America.

  • Major Tom

    The belt-feds are assorted Browning designs. M1919 and M2HB.

    • while they do make semi auto versions of those I get the feeling this dude didn’t legally buy his guns.

      • Major Tom

        Once upon a time you could mail order that kind of stuff from Montgomery Ward. Or head to a milsurp auction. There was a lot of milsurp in the 1940s and 1950s. This guy is old enough to remember at least part of that era.

  • JoeNope

    The belt feds look homemade. Wtf.

    • Xtorin O’hern

      that was i was thinking, they look a bit like M2’s and the one in the car looked like it was a WIP build

    • derpmaster

      It used to be a pretty common thing to build semi conversions of 1919s and M2s from parts kits when they were still around. Most of the machining you have to do is just fabricating the side panels, I believe the right side panel is the serialized part.

      • JumpIf NotZero

        The serialized side plate on the 1919 is pretty much just a plate with holes in it iirc.

      • Klaus Von Schmitto

        M1919 parts kits are still around and you can buy semi auto side plates for around 300 bucks. I’ve got an Israeli kit I haven’t built yet.

  • jeff

    All those spooky 3rd pinholes i see on the ar lowers. Just goes to show that stupid gun laws only affect the law abiding.

  • TheNotoriousIUD

    Jesus, I can see the headlines now, “CHILD MOLESTING GUN NUT CAUGHT!”

    I hope this guy dies in jail.

    • Sunshine_Shooter

      *if convicted

      • ostiariusalpha

        I seriously doubt his innocence, but it doesn’t seem entirely appropriate to publish his name and photo before he has even been convicted. I guess we’ve learned nothing from when everyone crucified poor Richard Jewell.

        • Joseph Goins

          That happens on a daily basis. I can go to my local gas station ad buy a newspaper that just has local arrests in it.

        • FarmerB

          Trial by Twitter these days.

        • Vizzini

          seriously doubt his innocence

          What? With the copious information we’ve been provided about the case?

        • Sunshine_Shooter

          Apparently we didn’t. I had to google who that was.

        • Edeco

          I personally don’t even really mind the name and photo; it is what it is, people get accused and it’s a public affair. In a perfect world it would be part of ensuring due process. And I usually don’t complain about the journalism on here. But “alleged scumbag” would have been more professional. Disregarding due process is bad luck – goes around, comes around.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Yes.

    • Ceiling Cat

      And the liberal also. Typical low IQ response. Where is your firm stance on due process now?
      CP charges on computers are most likely to have been stings.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        Blow me.

        • Paul White

          Ew, you don’t know where he’s been.

          • TheNotoriousIUD

            I meant it more figuratively but that might not even be safe.

    • Anonymoose

      Don’t worry. I’m sure he’ll be raped to death by Bubba and Jose.

      • Bill

        If he’s smart, which is unlikely, he’d immediately punch a guard and get thrown into segregation, and repeat as needed.

        These guys are usually put into segregation anyway, with the snitches and bad cops.

  • ReadyorNot

    Wouldn’t it benefit the department to auction the firearms off and use the funds for needed police gear?

    • Harry’s Holsters

      That’s what they are legally required to do here in NC. Some departments won’t do that so they have the cost of storing large amounts of firearms.

      • Joseph Goins

        If the full-auto guns were not registered with the ATF, they cannot be registered now and put back into circulation. However, the ATF is likely to seize and destroy all of the guns since they were brought in to investigate.

        • actually the full autos could be sent to museums or various police depts. I heard of a glock 19 that had been seized from a drug dealer that wound up in the hands of the fbi and they often allowed civilians in certain university programs of the local schools to fire it

          • Joseph Goins

            Glock 19 isn’t an NFA item.

          • Sorry Glock Model 18 which is select fire due to a selector switch. However Glock 17s and 19s can be made full auto only or select fire by way of a backplate. Hence those are NFA items.

          • Puke

            I would rather see them cut up and destroyed than being handed out to certain police departments, not all but certain,ones don’t need any more cool toys.

        • Harry’s Holsters

          I don’t know what the ruling is on full auto guns here. They may have a provision to sell them to SOTs as dealer samples or to make them into parts kits. I think I remember seeing something about parts kits.

        • DChrls

          “However, the ATF is likely to seize and destroy all of the guns since they were brought in to investigate”

          That and the ATF seems to hate firearms; at least in the hands of private citizens.

          • Joseph Goins

            The ATF is under no legal constraint to sell seized firearms unlike the local jurisdiction that originally arrested the pervert.

          • DChrls

            OK, I was just trying to make a joke about the ATF based on the quote from your previous post.

  • Anomanom

    What in the actual…? Where did this monkey-faced pervert get all that stuff? 3 M2s, a couple of M1919s, and all the rest probably add up to a quarter mil in guns, but this fellow lives in a house made out of plywood.

    • Harry’s Holsters

      You’d be surprised what some of these older guy who have been collecting since gun were cool have. My dad’s buddy has at least 200k in older hunting guns that he has maybe 45k in. You’ll never see him with less than $2,500 in cash on his person. He works on construction site and knows everyone. If any body needs to sell anything of value for penny’s on the dollar he’s your man. He bought a glock 17 with 200rnds of ammo for $175 when ball ammo was selling for $0.75 a round post sandy hook. I’ve also seen $2,000 browning shotguns and pre 64 winchesters he’s bought for $250-$500. He’ll buy anything though if it can be fixed and be worth more than he has in. He’s got more crap 22s than anyone I know. He buys anything so people come to him with everything.

    • codfilet

      Obviously, his disposable income was not used for granite countertops and HGTV home makeovers….

  • MrEllis

    Are those boots 12g? Also, that Cheez Balls container is like from the early ’90s… It’s like all he bought was old snacks, cardboard boxes, chipboard and any illegal gun he could. Ah well, it’s a high pucker factor when you imagine what could have happened, but he’ll rot in jail. Score one for the good guys.

  • Cory C

    In before all the sympathizers. Haha.

  • SP mclaughlin

    Who needs CP when you have a USAS, dammit?

  • Vitsaus

    Dude should have just waited. In 10 years pedophilia will be legal here in the US.

    • Orion Quach

      lol what

    • MrFN

      I don’t even

    • Joseph Goins

      He’ll be dead in ten years.

    • Anon

      You’re a f**king moron.

      • Puke

        That from the anonymous poster guy.

        • Cymond

          It’s bad when even the Anon posters know someone is a moron.

    • SimonSays

      Yeah, you guys are laughing but our Dutch government still does not invalidate child marriages from Arab countries… Same thing for genital mutilation, we are so liberal we do not prosecute these abuses. USA is on a slippery liberal slope and if you want to see how badly it can end look at my country…

  • MrFN

    Someone please tell that department to keep at least the USAS, I’d hate to see it destroyed! That dual-barrel belt fed, the various UZis, and the Thompson should also be given to either museums or anything to preserve them.

  • Joseph Goins

    This story illustrates one issue I run into a lot that is very common with antigun people I know.

    This dude has well over $100K in his 45 firearms. That number could skyrocket if the guns were legally owned NFA items to a conservative figure of >$600K. Another news source said this guy had over 100K rounds of ammunition. That’s cool and I wish I had it, but did anyone notice that the walls of his house were cardboard? Hell, Planters hasn’t made Cheez Balls since 2006. This guy is a hoarder and further helps create a caricature of a gun owner who is so paranoid that he would rather keep 40+ guns than live in a decent house and buy a good security system.

    • Puke

      I lived in shipping crates while in Iraq on my tours of duty and was just fine.

      • Tassiebush

        Haha I am assuming you mean the collection shown in this article. Not the alleged one. Man I agree with you though. Screw having a fancy house instead of a heap of cool stuff!

      • Klaus Von Schmitto

        You had a box?You lucky bastard. I had a tent in Oman. But then again I never got shot at so maybe it’s a wash.

      • Joseph Goins

        And watch it get blown away in absolutely destroyed in a heavy storm? No, you wouldn’t live in a cardboard box. (I understand you were using hyperbole.)

  • Daniel M. Ramos

    Why don’t we have gun redistribution programs? Seriously! When the cops find stashes of guns in the hands of criminals instead of destroying them or selling them for profit why not redistribute them to law abiding citizens that want to exercise their 2nd amendment rights but suffer financial hardship? The feds like redistributing our money, so here is a way to tip the balance towards the hands of law abiding citizens. Confiscating the guns of criminals and giving them to those involved in neighborhood watch programs would be good start. Also, the states love lotteries. People would certainly pay for a lottery ticket that might get them access to firearms, otherwise known as a raffle. LOL

    • Major Tom

      Because that would be smart and we can’t have smart in this day and age.

  • Ceiling Cat

    “A shame such a collection of firearms belonged to a scumbag”
    And from where did you came to that conclusion? You do KNOW that planting CP is the US Gov’s favorite trick, right?
    No surprise, Amerilards are a bunch of braindead cattles. “Muh freedumb, Liberty, ATF/FBI SCUM!”. And here we are, throwing due process away.

    • Bill
  • Right-wing Realist✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

    This dude went full libertarian.

    • Devil_Doc

      How so?

  • UCSPanther

    Goes to show that Pedos come in all forms, be they the stereotypical basement-dwelling neckbeard, to celebrities (See also: Gary Glitter aka Paul Gadd), to creepy, elderly hoarders.

  • Vhyrus

    I would totally dress up like a 12 year old to get some of those guns.

    …too much?

    • Joe Schmo

      I think its funny.

    • JT Wise

      Very poor taste… but funny!

    • Old Vet

      OMG, me too, might be a bit of a stretch for me at this point in life though…haha

  • Vizzini

    However Senator Bentsen deemed the USAS12 “having no sporting purpose” and they were not imported. So how Strain got his hands on one is very interesting.

    Wow, it’s almost as if laws are no obstacle to people not interested in obeying them….

    • Nicholas C

      Funny how that works,

      • Bland Samurai

        It’s almost as if no research or knowledge is required to post a story. A story presents just the facts and only the facts. A stream of diarrhea of the mouth, well … The two-tone M16 with the “evil” third hole is quite common among off-brand transferables. Sendra, Essential Arms, Denkins (AAI in Tx) come to mind.

    • Joseph Anthony

      It wasn’t banned until “on deadly ground ” came out. I bought one then was told I couldn’t have it. USAS-12′ were sold w/o the bbl. then the bbl’s were picked up later. I saw a lot of 1919’s and m-2’s in pics with the other stuff.

  • That’s just silly to be polite not you Blake but CC comment.

    • Blake

      Haha it’s so funny the way the brain works. Because of the article and it’s subject matter, your title looked like it said “Sex Offender” instead of “TFB Moderator” when I first glanced at it haha.

  • Cattoo

    Looks like he has a dual barrel 10-22 set up packed away in with all the toys. There is even a AR lower with a .50bmg upper laying on the floor in the middle with all the othe black guns.

  • phauxtoe

    Dude should have sold that crap, looks like a lot of it is worth a Mint!

  • Fred Sanford

    OMG – CHEESE BALLS !
    HE’S GOT A LOADED CAN OF CHEESE BALLS !!!!
    YOU KNOW THE COPS TOOK THEM HOME !

  • Anon

    Thanks for the input, did your comment go into moderator limbo?

  • HB

    Well a few tactical units at that time(around early 90s) saw some potential as a ‘Jungle sweeper’, and actually I saw a picture of Peruvian SF used one in Jungle on Soldier of Fortune magazine more than 20 years ago… but I think most of the units who bought USAS-12 soon threw them away for quality issue.

  • Mr. Privilege

    That one Uzi with the sling and stock folded out has a “Secret Service Length” barrel.

  • codfilet

    All the cops have to do is say “Child Pornography”, and everyone wants to throw out due process, and have someone raped in jail. Maybe he was set up-who knows? most 79-year-olds aren’t especially computer literate, or careful on what they might click on. Folks here don’t trust the government in everything else they do, but in a case like this,they get right in line to buy the whole story without question.

    • Repoman3737

      Most 79 yr Olds couldn’t do anything with childporn or children for that matter. It would be like shooting pool with a rope…

  • Tassiebush

    Alleged scumbag

  • jamezb

    The belt fed on the floor of the truck looks quite a bit like the second version of the infamous youtube belt fed shotgun on M16 lower.
    . I couldn’t locate the “MKII” video in a quick search, but IIRC it had a full barrel shroud unlike the pervasive original version, making it very similar to this gun at a glance anyway.

  • JJ

    really wish they brought back planters canned cheese balls now

  • Jim_Macklin

    When he is convicted you can call him a scumbag, right now he is a sad old man, Maybe he has some pictures of famous movie stars talent book passed around Hollywood by mothers trying to get their daughters hired to make Hollywood movies?

    What this shows is the ease of putting an evil sign on somebody. Did he commit some other crime? Was a he a child molester or did he park over-time? Show pictures of “evil guns” and the MSM will convict him and ALL OF US.

  • ParaLarry

    Only 45 guns? That’s not a “cache” or an “arsenal”, just a collection.

  • Puke

    I suppose all of you that want to crucify this guy remeber the federal government burning down the compound in Waco because they had supposedly abused children. I live here in Texas so the story has been everywhere so I have seen and read countless articles on this story and they have never mentioned what the evidence was that was alleged to have existed. Was it provided by the FBI who just let Hillary off with a pass or local law enforcement? The guy is innocent until proven guilty and even then there is no way of knowing if he was really and truly guilty. Do all of us believe that there are no innocent people in prison?

    All of us attach a certain level of disgust to those that abuse children but a lot of people on here are really quick to judge and I would invite all of them to think about what items might be found on their premises such as, for example, post ban assault style weapons that might not survive an ATF parts count and whoops, instant felony.

    I would think of all people we might err on the side of caution and not be so quick to execute the guy before we know the facts. If it turns out he is a perv then let him have it but for now he is accused,,,,, but still innocent.

    Just my very humble opinion which rumor has it is only worth about two cents.
    Puke

    • The Branch Davidians burned down their compound in accordance with their cult beliefs. They had always planned to do so. The ATF coming that day surprised the Davidians because they thought the US gov’t would come after the Davidians had done a number of mass murder sprees including blowing up school buses full of children and shooping malls. That’s right the Branch Davidians were a Christian terrorist doomsday cult who to their belief system David Koresh was Jesus in human form. They were going to kill themselves sooner or later after a lot of innocent people were killed by them.

      • Tassiebush

        Well the contrary point of view is that the FBI screwed up by pumping toxic and flammable levels of teargas into the compound to a level where it ignited incinerating the whole place.

        • the fires were simultaneous at multiple places. that wouldn’t happen with igniting gas.

          • Tassiebush

            Makes me want to read up on it. My reference points are watching the news and current affairs at the time in the 90s and then watching Waco Rules of Engagement probably 17years ago so I’m a bit rusty on it.

        • n0truscotsman

          Not to mention the rules of engagement and the ‘intentions’ of the current administration, particularly, janet reno.

          Koresh could have been easily picked up without the sensationalism and appendage measuring sideshow. And as a result, lives were expended. Stupid.

      • Puke

        And this information was provided to us buy the good people of the FBI and ATF. Put your holders back on.

      • Puke

        And just how would you know this? You my friend, are the kind of idiot that the government counts on.

  • me ohmy

    actually there was a semi USAS, which I would reckon that one seized to be. a buddy of mine had and owned a semi one, had it and sold it. told me at the time it was an unreliable POS, and he wasn’t too unhappy to hear it got DD status and made into a title 2 weapon.. the auto version I have never laid eyes on and I was selling guns in a title two gun store back when they were a hot item. also he has A LOT of period correct eighties and nineties guns there.. i THINK I see a wooden stocked AMT-LIGHTNING, and a COLT AR-15 with the DELTA ELITE CHEEKPIECE made by APACHE…rare bit of kit now.

  • El Duderino

    OK. That’s an arsenal. Someone tell the NY Times that’s the standard, not some putz in Brooklyn with 2 shotguns and a .22 rifle.

    • 2ThinkN_Do2

      Technically, an arsenal is a collection of firearms/weapons that is stored. The ATF or FBI do not have a definition for what constitutes an “Arsenal”. So it’s left up to the media to decide to call whatever they want, an arsenal.

  • Jim

    I agree! Some of those firearms are probably rare and highly collectable. Even those that are Class 3 should probably belong in a museum. Damn shame that this POS was the one in possession of these fantastic firearms.

  • Mr Mxyzptlk

    I always wondered what sort of person would actually buy a Calico M1-II. Turns out that the answer is “child molester”.

    • Leigh Rich

      I’ve a Calico 22 carbine. those 100 round heiicoil mags take a time to empty.

      • Mr Mxyzptlk

        The Calico M1-II is a completely different weapon (don’t know if it is the same manufacturer or if the similar name is just coincidence). It is the weird double barrel MG like thing in these photos. It is actually 2 M1 carbines back to back mounted on a tripod which are fired in a sort of full auto manner with a gatling gun like crank handle.

  • Cymond

    The USAS-12 was imported and sold as a standard semi-auto shotgun, but was later reclassified as a Destructive Device. Auto Weapons has one for $4800. http://www.autoweapons.com/products/destructivedevices.html

    Also, what the heck is he wearing in that mugshot?

  • gunsandrockets
  • Off topic

    • Ceiling Cat

      He wants to see the evidence, I gave it to him. But you always have to come out and censor hurtful facts for the “patriots”, dont you?

  • English

    Can we wait for him to be convicted BEFORE we call him a scumbag? I have no problem with lynching nonces, but i would like to know that i’m lynching the right person.

  • Leigh Rich

    THE RUBBER BOOTS AND THE CHEESE BALLS ARE SOMETHING TOO.

  • Guido FL

    What now ……………………….. is it against the law to collect firearms ??

  • Wayne

    What is the numerical crossover point when one goes from a collection to a “cache”?

  • Old Vet

    Engaging in reckless, illegal behavior when you have possession of more illegal items is just Darwinian. Sadly, all these beautiful pieces will be cannibalized, destroyed, or put into LEO hands that don’t appreciate them. No disrespect to LEO’s, I have been one myself and know how some guys were on my old department. No gun sense at all.

  • UltimateIndictment

    How exactly is this guy going to get a FAIR trial after this media coverage that speaks of child porn(CP) but shows images of guns. Where are the CP images? O that’s right only only certain ordained law enforcement agents are allowed to look at the alleged images. In the real world the majority of people that do sexually abuse a child do not record that abuse and practically all the sexually explicit images of children circulating cybernetically except for sexting images kids are making themselves without any adult coercion are from a stack of yellowing pages found at the back of X-rated shops when it was legal now their digitized. These pictures from what I have read tend to twenty to fifty years old, made overseas, badly re-reproduced, and chaste and that’s why federal agents never show journalists the contraband.

    Eric Snowden says, “Even if you’re not doing anything wrong, you’re being watched and recorded, it’s getting to the point you don’t have to have done anything wrong, you simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody, even by a wrong call, and then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you’ve ever made, every friend you’ve ever discussed something with, and attack you on that basis, to sort of derive suspicion from an innocent life and paint anyone in the context of a wrongdoer… The public needs to decide whether these programs and policies are right or wrong.”.

    David Finkelhor director of the Crimes Against Children Research Center at the University of New Hampshire says he sees the moral weight of CP law, but not the empirical proof. He states, “The evidence doesn’t yet tell us to what extent the experience of being a pornography victim aggravates the experience of the sexual abuse itself. How do you separate it out?”. What the law says is equivalent to saying voodoo is real. No one has actually to commit a crime they just have a look at an image or have a thought, and they are guilty of a crime far worse than the abuser in the image themselves. Imagine lawyers that observes a digital image that having no form or life through osmosis they give those images or objects a legal force, a power, like practicing voo-doo. Locking someone up and taking away their freedom when there is no victim other than the victim/’s the lawyers fabricate creating a client is wrong on so many levels. As for the Pedo busters the ones that cry the loudest as in MOST cases the biggest offenders.
    Disentangling Child Pornography from Child Sex Abuse Carissa Byrne Hessick
    http://www dot truthmovement dot us/2016/07/disentangling-child-pornography-from.html (replace dot with .)

  • HollowTs

    Used to be able to find USAS 12 in the back of the shotgun news for at least 3 years.. I should’ve bought it when I thought about it.

  • Pat Hines

    We don’t know if he’s guilty of the porn charges, or was he set up to confiscate his firearms? Innocent until proven guilty, folks, innocent until proven guilty. A relative of his should be able to take possession of any weapon legally possessed, too, none of them were involved in the crime for which he’s charged.

  • Mike Lashewitz

    The weapons were probably all legal when he got them. However the fact is he is a perve has nothing to do with weapons ownership. I would love to have some of those toys law permitting.

    At the same time the pedophile industry caters to the wealthy, which is why they are trying to pass laws making it legal.

    Have you been paying attention to that? Ask Jimmy Saville

  • Daisuke0222

    AK, Ingram, and cheese balls.
    Seems legit…

  • Steve_7

    I’m not defending the guy, I make the observation though that kiddie porn is often used as a pretext to go on a fishing expedition or to convict someone who is suspected of something else. Like, when the police in London arrested a suspected “terrorist” (memorable because one of the officers accidentally shot another officer during the arrest), they couldn’t find anything against him – except kiddie porn on his computer, so they went with that. Hardly a terrorist offence though. The most glaring example though involved Matt DeHart, look up his story in the National Post. Basically the US Govt. wanted him because he had classified information, but they went after him on a kiddie porn charge instead so they didn’t have to mention the classified information.

  • jay

    Could he have been arrested for GUN porn, instead of kiddie porn? Why don’t sheriffs and police dept’s use one of the many FFL’s in their jurisdiction to sell these firearms legally? If they can confiscate cars, boats, motorcycles, etc. and sell them, why not firearms? If the dept pays a percentage to the FFL, they’d still make a killing (sorry wrong word). And if the firearm is select fire, and has been in the US before the ban, it is legal to sell to certain FFL’s. Meaning more money for the dept.

  • 1inidaho

    Fascinating! How did this guy aquire any of the full auto weapons?

  • buzzman1

    Were those armor piercing rounds in the .30 cal MG belt?

  • Rocketman

    At least one of the belt feds appears to be a Browning 1919 parts kit that has a homemade side plate attached to it. Note that instead of rivets it has bolts with lock washers held nuts holding it together.

  • John Cheek

    What is the magic number you have to hit for it to become a “cache” or “arsenal” of weapons?

  • brainy37

    From the looks of it, those are all illegally modified weapons built from parts kits. The belt feds have obvious new receivers and those are screws not rivets holding them in place. Most of the M2 is home built. The parts kits go for between $2k-$3k. One of them looks completely home brew.

    It’s ironic that he had the money to buy and build this kind of stuff (need a workshop), own a two story house, but he was living in squalor. What’s with these people?

  • Anon. E Maus

    It’d be tempting but remember that his testimonial can be used to solve crimes he may or may not be involved in.

    He’ll get his in the big house.

    • Phil Ward

      Good point, well made! Lets hope it can bring some closure

    • AirborneSoldier

      Funny how we turn on each other so quick. We dont know if the guy is guilty of the child charges or not. Whenever weapons charges are part of it, my red flag goes up.

  • AirborneSoldier

    Maybe the charges were trumped up to get ppl to call him a scumbag, which allows the authorities to do what they want to him. Only 45 guns? Hope they never bust my azz for something. Glad i sold all my belt fed stuff, too expensive to feed anymore anyway.

  • AirborneSoldier

    “Cache of weapons” rather than “collection” words mean things. Wonder where his ” thousands of rounds of ammunition” and anti government propaganda were. I dont side so quickly with authority anymore. They havent earned much credibility with me. Its for the children….

  • chino

    He could very well be guilty as charged. But even from the responses here, you can see that once you slap someone with a child sex/molestation/pornography possession accusation, he’s finished.