Breaking:Remington Announces The New R51 Gen 2 Now For Sale At Your Local Gunshop

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While we are all very familiar with the problems of the R51 over the last couple of years I’ve made every effort to stay on top of the situation. Several writers actually had a meeting with the CEO last December during the new plant tour and talked extensively about the efforts toward redesigning the previous Gen1.

Since the time of the first version difficulties there have been two teams of engineers working on a top to bottom redesign of the R51 and basically starting from scratch using the first R51 gen1 as the basis of the redesign. I was privy at the time of watching some of the first Gen 2 R51’s being assembled. These Gen 2 guns would not be available for some time because a good number would be used to further test these production models to ensure they would work as designed and advertised. To quote the CEO “it will be the most throughly tested handgun ever”. Knowing what was at stake they did a LOT of testing and fired many thousands if not hundreds of thousands of rounds during the redesign as well as tweaking the Gen 2 as the redesign progressed.

The first priority was taking care of those customers who purchased the gen 1 and getting the gen 2 sent out first before any guns would be sent out for general sale. That process was completed and the guns are now shipping to distributors and gun shops around the country. My new R51 sample was received last Thursday. I’ll be testing it like I’ve never tested another pistol prior to writing it up. Because of travel plans to cover another story I was only able to fire 100 rounds so far but everything went well with no malfunctions. Many more rounds will go downrange before I post the results. I plan on shooting 1000 rounds total.

Now I know some will hold a grudge and no matter what the outcome those few will still talk it down. I’m reserving judgement and being as far to Remington and our readers as possible. Let the chips fall where they may because my ultimate responsibility is to our TFB readers.

Now then as I said the Gen 2 will be available this coming week for general sales. The price hasn’t changed from the original and includes a second Crimson Trace version.

This was just released over the weekend from Remington:

Remington Now Delivering the Re-Engineered, From the Ground Up, Model R51 Sub Compact Pistol

Huntsville, AL – Remington Arms Company, LLC, (“Remington”) is proud to announce today that the R51 has returned to the market. The new enhanced Model R51 is a concealed carry pistol based on the Pedersen design, heritage and memorable features of the original Remington Model 51.

Re-engineered from the ground up and extensively tested to deliver utmost reliability, the perfected R51 gets you on target faster and more intuitively than any other subcompact on the market. Add to that its dramatically reduced felt recoil and muzzle flip, and it’s exactly what you need to perform at your best when things are at their worst.

The R51 sub compact pistol features a lightweight aluminum frame with rounded edges for comfortable conceal carry, grip safety, low bore axis for reduced recoil/muzzle flip, concealed carry trigger (light/crisp/single action), light slide racking-force for ease of manipulation, ambidextrous magazine release, locking drift adjustable sights and optimized grip angle – making it extremely easy to point and shoot.

New enhancements on the Model R51 include superior slide performance with updated internals, precision-engineered extractor, locking snag-free sights, finely-tuned recoil spring, hard chromed barrel bushing, top-end single action trigger and two semi-flush 7 + 1 round magazine.

The Remington Model R51 is available chambered in 9mm Luger +P with a suggested retail price

of $448.00. In addition, the Model R51CT features a Crimson Trace laser sight with a suggested retail price of $648.00.

 

Order Number

96430

96432

Description

R51

R51CT

Caliber

9mm +P

9mm +P

BBL Length

3.4”

3.4”

Twist Rate

1:16

1:16

Overall Length

6.68”

6.68”

Barrel Material

Stainless

Stainless

Finish

Melonite

Melonite

Frame Material

Aluminum

Aluminum

Trigger Pull Lbs

5.5-7

5.5-7

Mag Capacity

7+1

7+1

Weight Oz

22.6

23.1

MSRP

$448

$648

 

Remington R51 Website



Phil White

Retired police officer with 30 years of service. Firearms instructor and SRU team member. I still instruct with local agencies. My daily carry pistol is the tried and true 1911. I’m the Associate Editor and moderator at TFB. I really enjoy answering readers questions and comments. We can all learn from each other about our favorite hobby!


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  • I’m slightly interested

  • Tothe

    I want to test it out if my local indoor range offers one for rent before I decide whether to buy one.

    • I think that is really a good idea before purchasing any gun. Some guns don’t fit you or in some other way it’s not for you.

      • Tothe

        I have friends who own a wide variety of firearms. That is how I know I just plain don’t like Glocks, but really want a 10mm EAA Witness.

        • Roguewriter

          You won’t be disappointed. CZ-75 mechanics and ergonomics in the Best mm are hard to beat.

        • Lew Siffer

          I inherited a 10mm EAA Witness, the single-action model. It felt like it was made for my hand, and that is not a cliche, it truly did fit that well. Great trigger and trigger pull, a thing of sheer beauty, and the recoil on the 10mm was absorbed by the ergonomic design. Of course, the 15-round mags would only accept 12 rounds, and it jammed all the time. But other than that, it was perfect.

          • Tothe

            The one I fired didn’t jam. Admittedly, I didn’t fire it too much, and I have heard other people describing issues like yours though.

          • Tothe

            I gave it some thought. I know the Witness I fired had an aftermarket recoil spring, and perhaps some minor work on the internals. I don’t know how old it was.

        • There you go!

        • Christian Hedegaard-Schou

          I have an EAA Witness 10mm.

          You need one. They’re great guns.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      I’ll help you out. Don’t.

      Had SHOT Show fondle time on the first version. Probably the single cheapest POS at the show. The trigger was such garbage that I laughed out loud, right at the rep talking about how great it was. The size wasn’t the worst part, but it’s larger than most people think it is, if it wasn’t so awkward, the size would be good imo, if it held 10 rounds. As is, it’s large than my shield and holds the same or less rounds.

      This is a bad gun.

      • Ebby123

        ..said the saltiest critic who frequents this blog.

  • Hoplopfheil

    It’s still got a cool look (ray gun-esque), and intriguing design, but early reports on the Gen 2s aren’t much better than the original.

    • Well I expect to see some negative reviews. Several I’ve seen are from those who got replacement pistols. One of the videos was pretty obvious the person had an axe to grind.
      I’ll just wait and reserve judgement until I can run it to death myself. I’ll also be disassembling it from time to time and see if there is any unusual wear etc. It will certainly a thorough test.

      • hikerguy

        I am looking forward to seeing your results before I buy. I do think Remington has done the utmost for those who purchased the original ones. I hope, for Remington’s sake, it goes well. If not, I think the RM380 will be my second choice.

      • Hoplopfheil

        True. Rye on Hams look at his replacement was pretty harsh, but the amount of wear on the gun from the factory was alarming.

        • ostiariusalpha

          That Remington completely forgot to install the roll pin that holds the ejector and several other parts in place, and just left the placeholder pin in its stead, was not confidence inspiring.

          • In Richard Mann’s latest video, the Remington rep claims that the pin isn’t meant to be the full width of the frame.

          • ostiariusalpha

            Interesting. I have no information on the supposed length of the pin, but many others who have received a Gen 2 replacement report that theirs is definitely a roll pin. When Ryeonham removed his pin, it looked like an obvious slave pin to my eye.

          • That was my first thought as well.

          • Deacon Blue

            Two people posted about having roll pins in their gun but where are the pictures? I will take the word of the Remington engineer over ROH in the video. He seems to have some trouble walking back his criticism. I will be glad to try one out for $440, it’s not like a small fortune. My RM380 has been just fine for cc with no non ammo related malfunctions.

          • Ebby123

            That’s designed that way – not a MFG flaw. See Richard Hamm’s youtube video (link pending moderation).

  • Gorilla Biscuit

    Not in a trillion dog years would I buy one of these. But I certainly will enjoy everyone making videos, testing the endurance of these. Should make for some interesting entertainment.

  • Beju

    My philosophy on this will be the same as it is for stopping a theoretical knife wielding maniac attacking somebody while we’re unarmed.

    You go first.

  • AD

    While I don’t like the styling of the slide very much, I am very interested in this pistol. I hope they’ve solved all the issues and it will run smoothly this time. I wonder if anyone will ever produce aftermarket slides for it?

  • Strongarm

    Hesitating blowback should not be accepted as a real delay system to slow the breechbolt opening speed at the very short time fractions in which the highest level of chamber pressure exists. Instead, it should be accepted as a mechanical buffer to lower the slide speed after the bullet goes off. With a 85mm barrel lenght, and a 8 grams of bullet weight,
    free blowback travel of approximately 300 grams of slide should be 2 to 3milimeters which should be the near equal of the distance which New R51 slide free blowback backward travel until to strike to the locking shoulder provided over the aluminium receiver. This means, the slide locking would start just on the point where its need ends. Remington should be of course aware of it. But their aim should be to build a small pistol in powerfull caliber which the slide of it should be manually tracked even by the weakest hands. The hesitation mechanism enables this and the old R51 name should be a great selling point.
    All things Remington Staffs to do, should be providing a durable locking shoulder over the aluminium receiver for stopping the the slide strike in over all life of the pistol.

    • TechnoTriticale

      re: But their aim should be to build a small pistol in powerfull caliber
      which the slide of it should be manually tracked even by the weakest
      hands.

      That was a selling point for the original Model 51, which was sort of wasted on cartridges that really didn’t need that advantage (.32ACP & .380). One wonders if 9mm was prototyped back then, and found to present some problems.

      The other neat feature of the mechanism is the rigid barrel, which begs for an optional longer threaded barrel. Indeed, the rumor is that it was AAC who decided to resurrect the 51, on which to base an integrally suppressed pistol (which further raises the question: why not start with the old Model 53 (.45ACP). Size, perhaps.

      • LG

        The original Remington M53 was a fine weapon. Remington of today will in no way fabricate and produce such a finely made product. The M53 needs to be resurrected.

      • Strongarm

        Longer the barrel, higher the risk of deformed, bulged or ruptured cases with “Hesitated Blowback” system in powerfull cartridges. Current R51 has the advantages of the short barrel and even adding some lenght for surpessor threads would spoil the security balance. Regarding to the Model 53, its heavier slide and lower chamber pressure might be got some advantages in very well manufactured one or two pistols. In serial manufacture, there would rise some problems. IMHO.

  • Heartbreaker

    That unfortunate title. Your writers are showing bias already.
    Remington is now putting QR codes on the frame?? How tacky can you get?

    • Texas-Roll-Over

      Bias? Quit trolling

      And putting 2D bar codes on the frame isn’t tacky, its effective and efficient.

      And from the sounds of it, you’ve never been responsible for the correct book keeping of thousands of products with different serial numbers . Have you ever done an inventory by hand, without scanners? Do have any idea how much of a pain in the ass it is? Not to mention the cost?

      I bet not.

      • Heartbreaker

        I guess I should’ve put /sarc since some people can’t tell.

        2D barcode makes more sense. I thought it was one of those “use smartphone to scan here to see more!” codes.

    • What in the world are you talking about???

  • Alfred Sauve

    I’d love to know what the circumference of the grip is measured right below the trigger guard. Most full size guns come out around 5.5″ and sub-compacts at 5″. I’d think there would be a market for a full or medium sized gun with a single stack mag so the grip would fit smaller hands.

    • Edeco

      I’m not too girth sensitive, do alright one handing an FNX45, but it would be interesing to see a numeric comparison.

  • A.WChuck

    At least Remington tried to do make something different, sad that is failed so spectacularly. I really wanted one of these, but now there is no unfilled need for it even if it turns out to be up to snuff this time around.
    I really see no need for the bitterness people hold towards Remington on this as they allowed owners to trade it in on a new R1 1911 even trade, however I do see how you could lose whatever confidence you had in Remington at this point.

    • Agreed and they also offered refunds. They pretty much did as much as possible to0 take care of the customers.
      We’ll see what happens with this new model.

  • garymac66

    ho, hum, not interested.

  • 22winmag

    Fools and their money are soon parted. Wild horses could not drag me away from my first-generation PPS.

  • Barbara Baird

    I just shot 200 rounds through my new R51 yesterday. I liked the fit and the low recoil. I think women will love it because of the easy-to-rack slide, but the disassembly and cleaning is a bear, a real challenge.

  • El Duderino

    “They work now. We pinky swear.”