Kahr CM9 9mm: My Favorite CCW Pistol

In this video James reviews the Kahr CM9 9mm sub-compact Pistol and explains why it is his favorite Every Day Concealed Carry pistol. Kahr changed the carry game with their single stack striker fired pistols with smooth triggers. The recent C-Series CM9 is cheaper model lacking some features of the P-series, but for every day carry buying the cheaper CM9 over the PM9 is a no-brainer. In this video we compare the CM9 to the Glock 43.

Please subscribe!!! Click here.

Please subscribe!!! Click here.


Thanks to our sponsorย Ventura Munitions. Without them TFBTV Would not be possible.

 

 



Steve Johnson

Founder and Dictator-In-Chief of TFB. A passionate gun owner, a shooting enthusiast and totally tacti-uncool. Favorite first date location: any gun range. Steve can be contacted here.


Advertisement

  • JumpIf NotZero

    kahr… lol

    I mean, they’re fine… but not even remotely in the same field as Shield, 43, PPS, XDS, etc

    • Austin

      His comparison seemed to indicate that it was on par with the 43 just a bit smaller with the same capacity.

      • JumpIf NotZero

        Cool. Except that I’ve personally helped two students who owners of Kahrs sell their guns after they failed to make it through a class with them. They’re OK but are we talking about guns you might trust your life to – or are we talking about budget options?

        Yes, it is smaller in almost every way than the 43… Which I personally consider way too small already. I carry a 19L, so I’ve never understood the idea of micro guns that most people can’t shoot well within 3 yards.

        • Austin

          Could they not make it through because of mechanical issues or because they couldn’t hit the target? You need to dedicate extra time and ammo to adjust to some subcompacts if you aren’t comfortable with them but they are nice for pocket carry.

          • JumpIf NotZero

            Mostly mechanical. I had some issues with 124gr hollow points, and a couple where it wouldn’t go into battery.

            IMO it was a gun that was designed in the 80s/90s and happened to get some things right, but it’s just not as “fit” as a a shield or something.

          • T Rex

            Bull$#it!!

          • JumpIf NotZero

            I’m not shocked that you’re defensive and trying to marginalize anyone with an opinion about your favorite gun.

            It’s not a good look bro. You is a fanboy.

          • T Rex

            Actually, my favorite gun(s) is a four way tie between my Colt Python, Gold Cup Natl Match, Sig P226, and Glock 31. The CM9 is just my favorite pocket pistol or as backup when I’m carrying a full size duty pistol.

          • T Rex

            And “You is a” dumb@$$.

        • thedonn007

          19L? A Glock 17 cut down to a Glock 19 grip height?

          • JumpIf NotZero

            Exactly. While I was having that dome I removed the finger grooves and reduced s little profile on the grip.

        • Kivaari

          When I’ve seen them at the range, none of them were working well.

          • T Rex

            Bull$#it

        • Marcus D.

          Most novices have problems with very short grip lengths (i.e., 2 finger grips), no matter what the gun. For them, there is the CW9 with a 3.5 inch barrel, 7+1, and a full grip for average hands.

          • Kivaari

            All I saw was guns failing to function.

        • T Rex

          Sure you did Jump

          • JumpIf NotZero

            lol… I mean it sure is unbeleivable to send a glock to Mike at Tacitcal Texture and Triggers! I’ve done the work before but like his stippling way better than my own.

    • RocketScientist

      Huh. I have 2 Kahr guns, one of which (CW40) has been my EDC piece for years. Both of them have run flawlessly. One had a few instances of hanging up on the slide catch in the first hundred or 2 rounds (well within the manufacturers recommended break-in period, and not atypical of a lot of quality semi-auto handguns). The other has had I think 2 FTEs randomly over the course of probably 800-1000 rds through it, both times with cheap bulk ammo, so not a real concern to me. Other than that they’ve both chewed up everything I’ve put through them with no complaints. They’re extremely slim, easy to conceal (even in the depths of the VERY hot VERY humid summers here where wearing a speedo sometimes feels like too much clothing), have a great trigger and shoot very accurately. I upgraded my EDC to night sights, thats it. Love these guns. I mean, It’s no Ed Brown custom or something, but If given the choice to trade my well-used CW40 for a brand-new version of any of the guns you listed (all of which I’ve shot a fair bit, excepting the PPS), and I’d pass.

  • thedonn007

    I have had a few Kahrs, I sold them as I could not get used to the triggers. They pretty much sucked, a long trigger pull and then a surprise ignition.

  • Bill

    I have a CW9 that I’ve never gotten to 100% reliability, but it has so many positive attributes that I’ll keep working with it. I’ve also gotten a G43, which I think is pretty similar, and have been equally happy with it.

    I wonder if Kahr’s introduction of the “low-end” models, which really aren’t, was a wise business decision, or if its cost them sales of their premium models.

    • Marcus D.

      My CW9 has been flawless through about 1000 rounds. The early ones had a bad reputation, but the new ones (mine is about 3 years old) have solved those issues.

      • Bill

        While mine isn’t there yet, I’m confident it will be eventually, and if it doesn’t, that Kahr will make it right

  • CMonster 556

    I have a CT40 that has the worst trigger I have ever had on a handgun. So long that my finger has to change position on it before it breaks. The grip checkering was so aggressive that I had to put a wrap over it to shoot more than a couple magazines at a time. After the first 50 rounds, it does go bang every time I pull the trigger, however. It has been relegated to a few specific uses. There will not be another Kahr in my collection.

  • YZAS

    Finely made firearm, excellent CCW option… just not for me. Couldnt get over the fact that the trigger length of pull felt longer than my …leg.

  • Kivaari

    I’ve never used them. The few people I know with them, and a few i’ve seen at the range simply did not work. Dealers refuse to stock them since they are “jamamatics”. What IS the big picture?

    • Marcus D.

      They USED to be jammamatics. No more. One of my LGS not only stocks them, one of the owners (a retired California Highway Patrol officer) carries one almost every day and loves it. His brother, a real gun snob, and a ccw instructor, also likes them. I have had only ONE jam over a thousand rounds, mixed FMJ and HPs, and that was due to a mag not being fully inserted. And they carry the mags too.

      • Kivaari

        MAYBE. Old prejudices die hard.

        • Bill

          An extremely timely statement give today’s current events.

        • iksnilol

          We gun folks are like that, one screwup and we’ll still judge you. Just look at Ruger and mag caps.

          • Kivaari

            Most have forgiven them. The managers, including Bill Ruger, are all dead or gone. They are selling over 1 million guns per year. Some of them are getting quite crude.

    • T Rex

      Another virtual small arms expert heard from with virtual friends who saw their virtual Kahr’s “not work” on a virtual range.

      • Kivaari

        NO. People I know. People I’ve shot with. Other range users. My dealer, me as a former dealer, stopped buying them for stock as they kept coming back. If they run today, it doesn’t undo prejudices learned. Like an Olympic Arms rifle. So many were so bad for so long, that they could make the best rifle ever, and I wouldn’t risk buying one.

        • retfed

          Dude, give it up. You’ll never win an argument with this guy. His Kahr works, so all Kahrs work: End of story. (I once knew someone whose Chevy Vega worked, too.)
          At least he didn’t call you a “booger eater” like another guy here did to me (and to you, if I recall) for not bowing to his awesomeness on the subject of (surprise!) 1911 vs. Glock. Savor your small victory there.
          Life’s too short.

          • Kivaari

            WOW! So few remember the Vega. I sold my very nice M94 .30-30 to Carol, one of our dispatchers. Her first day deer hunting with it she killed her Vega as she off-loaded it. Cold, wet hands and pointd in the wrong direction.

          • Gary Kirk

            Did the Vega a favor

          • Kivaari

            It was a flesh wound, it still ran. Not well, but it still ran.

          • Gary Kirk

            For the most part they ran.. Didn’t always “drive”.. But would run.. Not really well, but run..

  • M.M.D.C.

    Wow, little love for the Kahr. I have a CM9 that I carry every day. Trigger pull is long but no longer than a revolver – which is good since it has no safety.

    Broke it in with the recommended 200 rounds. One failure to feed (Winchester white box) but ate the Federal HST just fine. It’s never had another failure.

    One complaint: it doesn’t fit my had perfectly (grip’s too thin) so it doesn’t point naturally, but it’s not a target pistol and I’ve learned to compensate. As a carry gun, it’s just right: 6 rounds of 9mm in a gun that’s small enough that I can keep on all day with little discomfort but not so small it’s difficult to shoot.

    • Sulaco

      Go to Ebay and enter “grip sleeves” specifically Hogue grip sleeves. Soft, durable sleeves that slip over the grip and increase the size and grip control. Its made all the difference for my P40 and P9, I had the same complaint about the slimness of the grip. Night and day in feel and control. Cheep also starting around 9 bucks.

    • Tom Lane

      I have carried a P45 for 6 years now, all day every day. Love it! never had a failure. I’ve also owned Glocks in the past and the Kahr actually fits my hand better, but I am a smaller guy ” 5’9″ 150lbs, so my hand is smaller. But I have no problem shooting good groups or concealing.

  • Pete – TFB Writer

    Kahr Test. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Awesome vid.

    • Gary Kirk

      Napkinometer, nice.. Especially the BK thing..

    • Austin

      I thought that was for MPX testing?

    • James R.

      LOLOLOL this is awesome.

  • Big Daddy

    I prefer to carry my G26 or a G43. But in the Texas heat and the fact that I have severe back issues I have to use a belly band, I cannot wear a belt, soin the heat I carry a G43. I have shot a few Kahrs and am not a fan of the trigger, too long. The one a friend had he sold, it had issues, I’m pretty sure it was a C9 of some kind, it did not shoot well. Others I shot were much better but the trigger is a no go for me as well as the lack of aftermarket parts or replacement parts. My friend had a bad magazine and trying to find a new one was a PIA. A Walther is a well made top notch gun and something I would carry. But I am happy with the G43 and I can modify them to suit me, plenty of aftermarket parts.

    So yeah the G43 is a $400 gun and start going cha-ching as you upgrade it but it has been great after maybe 800+ rounds at the range, all kinds of ammo. I carry HST 147s in it. With the Strike industries +2 extension it gives me a good grip and 8 rounds. I put on night sights, Vickers slide lock and mag release, Ghost 3.5 connector and a good polish job. Next is a SS recoil assembly and maybe an aluminum replacement trigger assembly of some kind. So no the G43 is NOT the perfect CC gun it is flawed but I can customize it to make it perfect for me, no other gun has that ability. And more products are coming out all the time for it.

  • Joel

    Love the Weaver. It reminds me of 1970s TV cop shows.

    As for Kahr, I never understood why their double action only couldn’t be double strike. Actually, when did “double action” become not double strike? Old DA guns were.

  • Hoplopfheil

    This was the winner of single stack gun math from a while back, right?

    • Austin

      No the Diamondback DB9 and Kel-Tec PF9 finished ahead according to the current spreadsheet

      • Hoplopfheil

        Ahh, always those designs that push the envelope and end up unreliable. ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Austin

          To a degree but the Diamondback is 7oz lighter so there is obviously some room for lightening the designs from the more reliable manufacturers.

          • Kivaari

            Diamondbacks are fragile. They are built on the small Detective Special frame, and being Colts, wear out too fast. Colt’s DA pulls are horrible.

          • Austin

            How the hell can a semi-auto be built on a revolver frame?

          • Kivaari

            Colt’s Diamondback. I never think of the new company. I am surprised Colt hasn’t sued them over the use of the Colt PFA name usage.
            I have never even seen a “Diamondback” firearm on display at the stores I visit. They didn’t even enter consciousness.

          • Austin

            Fair enough

          • Kivaari

            HUAS on my part. I think Colt’s Diamondback. The new comers are not even on my conscious.

  • Marcus D.

    Maybe it is the dry weather here, but I have not had any rust appear on my CW9, which I carry in my pocket. Or maybe it is because I wipe down my new guns with a KleenBore rod&reel silicon cloth, which works brilliantly.
    I wasn’t particularly fond of the matte finish, so I polished the sides of the slide, leaving the top matte. Free bling.
    The only “complaint” I have with my Kahr is that the long trigger makes it a pretty slow shooter. Also, I have to look at how Steve places his thumb, since the slide release is pretty sharp and rubs. I also have soft “office hands” and the checkering was too sharp for more than 50 rounds, so I put a Hogue HandAll Jr. sleeve on it, solving not only that problem but adds just enough swell in the grip to make it very comfortable in the hand, better than without it on.

  • HARDSHELL

    Amazing videos for pistol lovers ๐Ÿ™‚

  • T Rex

    Steve’s review is spot on. I freely admit for years I believed any Kahr was an inferior and unreliable pistol based on 2nd hand info and gossip. Then I bought a CW45 on the cheap for trading material and was shocked to find out it was a flawlessly reliable light & compact 45 that shot well and had an excellent trigger. The CW45 so impressed me that I sold a miserably disappointing Sig P290RS for $450 and replaced it with a 2nd hand CM9 with 3 mags and 2 holsters that I picked up for $325. My experience with the CM9 is much the same as Steve, good smooth trigger, functions flawlessly and accurately with any ammo I feed it, and one additional attribute he didn’t mention, the CM9 shoots fairly soft with little muzzle flip for a 9mm that’s smaller than many 380’s. When the Glock 43 came out I couldn’t wait to get a Glock the same size as my CM9, but when G43 I ordered came at GT Dist last year, I backed out on the purchase after holding the two pistols side by side and realizing the G43 was just a slightly taller single stack G26 and noticeably larger than the CM9. I thought, why in the hell would I replace the impressive little 6+1 CM9 with a 6+1 G43 that’s noticeably larger, what’s the point?

    • Kivaari

      The G43 is not a taller G26. It is so much thinner. I don’t like little guns, but the G43 has much more appeal than the G26 or any Kahr.

      • iksnilol

        It is half a centimeter thinner. I don’t feel that is worth losing 4 rounds of capacity for.

        • Kivaari

          The 43 pocket carries better. Put in a stiff pocket liner it is flatter than a Centennial and has more powerful ammunition. The G26 being wider “prints” in the pocket, screaming “He’s got a gun”. I had G26s and G27s and they are just big enough to e holster guns. If I am going to use a holster, I stuff a G19 in it.

          • iksnilol

            I’ve yet to try one, but I think I want 2 cm or thinner if I wan’t to avoid printing. + that square blocky shape can’nae help with concealing.

          • Kivaari

            I’ve done it. But, it would be something to have a gun 2cm thinner than a G26. A pocket knife, a FLAT, pocket knife comes close. They don’t have a magazine but I guess as long as you have muscles they keep on working.

          • iksnilol

            I don’t mean 2 cm thinner than a G26, I just mean 2 cm thick at its thickest. Something like one of those Beretta pocket guns in .32 or .380

          • Kivaari

            I caught that after I posted it. There is a second thread going on this that has revised comments. Where it is I do not know. A little HUAS on my end,

          • Kivaari

            The thickness is trim enough on the G43. In the right, high quality uniform pants I could make a G17 disappear. As long as I was just standing there.

      • T Rex

        Hate to out you as a liar Kivaari, but you are. Height of the G26 is 4.17. Height of the G43 is 4.25.

        4.25 is more than 4.17 which means the G43 is taller than 4.17, and you’re a liar.

        • Kivaari

          The 43 is much flatter than the G26/27. It lies flatter in the pocket and is not as prone to printing. The curved finger extension on the 43 adds the 0.08 That little 0.08 can be removed with a couple of file strokes. 2/25ths of an inch. The thin profile is the bigger issue. T Rex you have a love of being a jerk in most responses, why?

  • Les Legato

    I found this a confusing review. Except for the rust, he has no complaints and he compares it as a better value than the Glock. But twice he says he carries his Glock more. And at the end he says its because he has a lot of other Glocks and likes the consistent Glock feel / trigger.

    But in the beginning he said he has / had over half a dozen Kahrs…

    • kyphe

      I think he is simply following the golden rule that you can not afford to offend the glock boys lol. Even if a reviewer thinks something is better in a particular regard they almost always put emphasis how much they like glocks and carry them all the time.

      • Austin

        They are annoyingly rabbid and vocal

        • iksnilol

          Like flesh-eating rabbits.

          • Austin

            I have The Holy Hand Gernade of Antioch for them.

      • Les Legato

        ok.

    • James R.

      If you watch my Top 5 CCW video or my Glock 43 review, I explain more fully.

  • A Fascist Corgi

    I prefer the SIG P938. It’s pretty much the same size as the Kahr CM9 so it will fit anywhere that the Kahr CM9 will. The only advantages that the the Kahr has is that it’s lighter and cheaper. What I like about the SIG is that it has a thumb safety and it doesn’t have the cheap fridge aesthetics of the Kahr.

    • kipy

      I carried a PM9 for a couple years, just switched over to a P938 about 6 months ago. I still really like the Kahr but it can’t even hope to compare to the Sig.

  • Hilltop

    Friend of mine has one of these that I got a chance to shoot a few weeks ago. We put 4 or 5 magazines out of it with no failures. For the size / type, I found it to be quite accurate and easy to shoot. Very impressive gun.

    The trigger is utterly unlike any of the handguns I own and I wasn’t expecting to like it until I actually fired it.

    I’ve suggested it to everyone that’s in the market for a gun of this type. I doubt any gun of this size is any better. Dollar for dollar I don’t think it has any serious competition.

  • Jason Patnoude

    What’s the name of the belt clip he has attached? I have a PM9 love it.. it’s the only gun I carry in the summer. The Kahr’s need broken in.. wish I could find someone to put front serrations on the slide as I’m missing my left index finger.. making it hard to chamber but I like that as it’s too tough for a kid to rack a chamber. Highly accurate for size.

  • Just say’n

    A quick draw clip on a striker-fired pistol with no safety?? Tsk, tsk. I would recommend a holster instead to keep the trigger free from something snagging on it.

    (or is the trigger pull so horrendous that it doesn’t really matter?)

  • uffdaphil

    I liked the trigger on the CM9, but overall preferred my PPS. Better ergos for my hand, easier to rack the slide and I shot much better with the Walther. The gen2 mods get rid of my only complaints.

    James. What’s with resetting your support hand after every shot? Looks like a bad habit that will slow you down in a defense situation.

  • uisconfruzed

    I got the PM9 for my wife, and it’s great. It will develop a bit of surface rust, so what, wipe it with oil every once in a while.
    The top of the trigger when it’s back has a sharp edge and bites.
    I’ve a pair of Glocks and prefer the fit and trigger, the 43 also affords a larger grip that helps my wife hang on to it.

  • Rick Radford

    I could have done the exact same video! I have been carrying various Kahrs for the last 15 years. EVERY ONE of them have been utterly reliable. I carry the mid sized CM 45 as well. I also have 1911s, M 92s, and a few compact revolvers. 95% of the time Kahrs are in my pocket, IWB rig, or in my sling bag or Knapsack. They are an excellent choice for CCW. Kahrs ROCK!!

  • Marmot

    If you want to support a ridiculous cult, buy as many Kahrs as you like. I’ll stick to S&W.

  • Squirreltakular

    Is that a Clipdraw pocket clip? How do you like it?

  • RickOAA .

    Not a fan, James. This knocks you down a peg in my book. The CM380 looks okay, though…’cause most of the little .380’s really suck.