Suppressed .22LR Face Off: Ruger American Rimfire Vs. 10/22 Integrally Suppressed

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After getting a chance to shoot my friend’s suppressed bolt action Savage .22LR I saw the light. So I picked up a Ruger American Rimfire with threaded barrel. Then I put it up against a 10/22 with Yankee Hill Machine integrally suppressed barrel.

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The Ruger American Rimfire is a bolt action rifle that can use the same magazines as the 10/22. The model I got has an 18″bbl and is threaded for suppressors. I mounted a Nikon Prostaff Rimfire 3-9×40. The 10/22 came as is from Silencershop. It has an overmoulded stock and a 4x Centerpoint scope.

I used Winchester’s new M-22 Subsonic ammunition. It is a 45gr black cooper coated round nose bullet that shoots about 1060fps out of a 16-20″ barrel. At least according to the side of the box.

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To suppress these subsonic rounds I used my SilencerCo SpectreII suppressor on the American Rimfire and the Yankee Hill Machine integrally suppressed barrel.

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The Yankee Hill Machine barrel is 18″ long and has a removable baffle stack. The baffle stack is 9″ long leaving just 9″ of rifling in the barrel.

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At first glance, the YHM barrel looks similar in size to my ER Shaw 10/22 heavy barrel.

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How does a 9″ barrel compare to an 18″ barrel? Not too bad actually. Without a doubt the Ruger American Rimfire gets tighter groups.

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Ignore the yellow spot in the upper right hand corner of the circle. That is from something else. Not a bullet hole. American Rimfire at 25 feet.

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10/22 groups at 25 feet.

 

Below are the groups for the 10/22 on the left and American Rimfire on the right. Shot at 50 yards with the Winchester M-22 Subsonic. The American Rimfire group is less than 2″ and the 10/22 is bigger than 2″.

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I was curious about the velocity difference since the YHM has such a short internal barrel and while there were some irregularities with the settings in my Magnetospeed V3 chronograph I was able to get some data. There were a couple odd spikes in speed but I was told by my friend Ryan at Magnetospeed that my sensitivity was too low and that is why I got these false readings. So I took two averages if there were some false readings. With and without the false readings. I shot four different brands of ammo to test. Winchester, CCI, Aguila and Remington Golden Bullet. Only the Golden Bullets are high velocity everything else is std velocity.

As you can see by the data below the American Rimfire 18″ barrel does have an increase in bullet velocity.

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How do they shoot? The Ruger American Rimfire shoots the best. This is based on sound and reliability. I am not saying that the 10/22 is not reliable I just had issues getting it to feed reliably with the Ruger BX-25 magazines. Something about the YHM barrel, ammo, and BX25 mag that they just did not like to work together. If I used the standard BX-1 10rd rotary magazine, then the 10/22 runs great. A little annoying when using a semi-auto rifle as it is easy to empty the magazine.

With regards to sound the 10/22 is louder for the shooter. The bolt cycling is very loud and the plastic stock exaggerates it a bit. The American Rimfire has very little noise being a bolt gun. When i try shooting either one in my backyard the 10/22 seems loud enough to be able to attract the attention of my neighbors. However that could just be my paranoia.

 

The 10/22 integrally suppressed is fun to shoot but the issues of feeding rounds in that barrel with the BX-25 really sours the experience. Whereas the Ruger American Rimfire eats anything from any magazine. Of course a 10/22 with factory threaded barrel would most likely run as reliable as the American Rimfire, it defeats the purpose of an integrally suppressed barrel.

 

10/22 YHM Provided by Silencershop

M-22 Subsonic ammo provided by Winchester.



Nicholas C

Co-Founder of KRISSTALK forums, an owner’s support group and all things KRISS Vector related. Nick found his passion through competitive shooting while living in NY. He participates in USPSA and 3Gun. He loves all things that shoots and flashlights. Really really bright flashlights.

Any questions please email him at nicholas.c@staff.thefirearmblog.com


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  • PK

    Try a UHMWPE or HDPE bolt stop in place of the factory steel pin in the 10/22, it really helps with the noise.

    • Nicholas C

      I would but this isn’t my gun. And I rather shoot my American Rimfire or my M&P 15-22 suppressed than my 10/22.

      • PK

        Fair enough! I agree, there are better semi-auto .22lr guns to run silenced these days (better mags, more reliable), but as you pointed out a bolt action or single shot will always beat them all for reduced noise.

        I’ve never grown tired of my Romanian 1969 .22lr training rifle with muzzle can, but I don’t recall last time I’ve used my 10/22 SBR/can combo.

        • Idrathergofishing

          Any pics of the Romanian Training rifle?

          • PK

            Just search online for “Romanian m69” and you’ll see the model. Pretty slick little guns, for a while there they were cheap just after importation but I have no idea on availability these days. They’re much like any other mag fed .22lr out there, but with three rear sights. All up for 100 meters, one down for 50 meters, two down for 25 meters. Useful!

          • Idrathergofishing

            I want to see yours with the can.

          • PK

            It’s just a simple muzzle can, looks like any other 22 silencer, but on the end of the M69. I don’t have a photo to share, sorry.

  • guest

    I owned an integrally supressed 10/22.
    Fun gun, however for as long as free recoil guns exist so will probably unreliably cycling, which was the case with my gun. Tried different mags and different ammo, funny enough subsonic .22 ammo jammed a LOT, while the so-called “stinger” hot .22 LR ammo which Ruger by the way advises against using in a 10/22 worked like a a charm, I am guessing because of increased recoil. Completely defeated the whole purpose of going so far as to having a huge integral supressor, but at least it worked.
    My personal lessons learned is that it is probably better to go for a bolt-action .22 gun, supressed or otherwise. As far as integrally supressed vs a can one can attach – can is probably better. .22 produces very little “bang” and flash, so even a small can will work very well, and have marginal difference from a huge integral supressor. Also varying from one type to another – some integrally supressed guns can have extremely short barrels and/or ports drilled into the barrel, all of which will ruin the accuracy – not so with a attacheable can.

    • Vince

      Ruger does not and never has advised against using Stinger on MOST models. Read your manual. If you have a 10/22T (for target) or Tactical. It is fine in all other models Quoting from page 16 of the latest manual:

      “Stinger” cartridges have a longer case
      than 22 LR cartridges loaded to U.S.
      Industry specifications. They can stick
      in the tighter chambers of target rifles,
      including the Ruger® 10/22® Target and
      Tactical rifles, which can result in a
      hazardous ruptured case and release of
      hot powder gasses and brass when fired.”

      My manual states VERY clearly that Stinger is fine. Mine is a 1976 bought new then and had thousands of Stingers shot through it with no damage. It now has a Green Mountain Heavy Taper barrel and will not accept Stingers.

      • maodeedee

        My 10-22 charger and rifle both work well with CCI Velocitors which are superior ballistically and accuracy-wise to stinkers anyway,. Neither gun is suppressed, however.

  • 6.5x55Swedish

    What is that thing at the end of the barrel called and what does it do?

    • PK

      The depression that looks like the inside of a socket is the relief for the endcap wrench, so the core of the silencer can be taken out of the barrel for cleaning.

      • 6.5x55Swedish

        I was thinking about the chronograph in the first picture 🙂

        • PK

          My mistake! Sorry about that.

    • Jsim

      If your talking about the thing on the 10/22 in the first pic I think it’s a decibel meter

      • 6.5x55Swedish

        Bob said it is a chronograph. Google seem to support that notion

      • Nicholas C

        Nope, it is the Magnetospeed V3 Chrono.

    • Bob

      The barrel mounted chronograph? I did some Google Image searching and that’s what is in the first picture.

      • 6.5x55Swedish

        Thanks 🙂

    • Nicholas C

      Magneto Speed V3 Chornograph. It is a barrel mounted chrono that uses magnetic fields to get the velocity of the bullet.

  • jamezb

    Does anyone ever run suppressors “wet” any more? I recall many years ago reading about someone demonstrating a suppressed carbine… a Delisle or something similar, Where they first shot it “dry” and then shot it “wet” – in this case packed with axle grease they’d pumped it full of and then cleared the bore with a single insertion of a cleaning rod. Supposedly there was a big difference in decibel reduction.. I’d love to see a side by side wet/dry comparison made with modern equipment in say, .22, .45, and .300 Blackout. TFB bloggers…any takers on that idea?

    • Cymond

      Many pistol caliber cans sounds better wet, but I’m not sure it’s worth bothering with a typical rimfire. Most rimfire shooters are also dealing in high volume shooting, so rewetting the suppressor every magazine would get annoying.

      Also, the DeLisle is a much older suppressor design.

  • ToddB

    YHM went a bit overboard with the amount of baffles. You really do not need much to suppress a 22. But they probably went that way so regular 22 could be used vs requiring subsonic ammo.

    And the magazine issue is a common thing. The hi cap mags work fine in a standard barrel, but once you go to a tighter chamber, they do not like hi cap mags. Its suppressed so not something you burn mags thru anyways.

    Many brands of 22 vary alot in velocity. My chrony will read weird when the battery gets low. But winchester, remington rimfire ammo is not known for its high quality. I had to send back some winchester it was so bad, when they worked they were still terrible. And golden bullets seem to jam up pretty much any weapon made. I see no mention of the groups the CCI did. My 10/22 drills them consistently and thats using a modded factory sporter barrel.

    So maybe the author should use some better ammo in a test. Also noticed no comparison of decibels between the 2 rifles.

    • Nicholas C

      Decibel testing is too expensive. According to SilencerShop, in order to do it properly you need a system that starts at $10k. I dont have that kind of cash to burn for such a mediocre test that doesnt really mean much. Pitch and loudness for the shooter is subjective.

      My Walther PPK/S 22 eats anything I have fed it. Including golden bullets. In fact to contradict your experience, my friend Tom M. shoots only golden bullets in his JP Enterprise race AR in .22LR. He did have issues shooting Winchester M-22 but my M&P 15-22 eats it up all day long.

      I was not interested in the groups for the CCI or Aquila. I was only interested in velocity and noise.

      • Dragonheart

        An inexpensive decibel meter from Radio Shack set to “C” weighted and equal distance from the source will certainly work for a compairson.

        • Ben Pottinger

          It absolutely will not. It isn’t even remotely fast enough to track the impulse noise of a gunshot.

          That said 10k is way to expensive using current technology. Sure, such testing required specialized equipment when peiple first started doing it 15 years ago but the equipment capable of catching those fast impulses has drastically dropped in price in the last decade.

  • gunsandrockets

    Not sure how it would compare to that suppressed 10-22, but I found that shooting .22 short RF was pleasantly quiet if the barrel was long enough, say 21 inches or more. The old Remington Speedmaster is good for this.

    • Dragonheart

      It didn’t have a 25 round magazine, but you are right the old Speedmaster is quite with shorts and completely reliable.

  • JS

    My Huntertown Arms T22 (integrally suppressed) on my Ruger 10/22 shoots a one hole 3 shot group at 25 yards with Gemtech sub sonic ammo. The trigger has been improved which helps with the groups immensely. Reliability has not been an issue. The T22 is a Ruger barrel that has been machined.

  • Dragonheart

    Since this is an article on suppressors shouldn’t it include a decibel test between the two?

    • maodeedee

      I think the reviewer’s subjective judgement that the internally suppressed 10-22 is louder is probably good enough for comparative purposes. And the fact that he could hear how much noise the action made is probably a pretty good indication that it wasn’t a great deal louder compared to how it would be unsuppressed.

  • claymore

    Using a suppressed 10/22 it is very easy to hold the bolt closed with your support hand fingers grabing the bolt handle and holding it closed. Quiet as a bolt gun and simple to then flick the bolt to recharge it.

  • Vincent Brennan

    Would like to point out that is HORRIBLE accuracy on any custom 10/22. Many stock rifles shoot better. Wonder if they are using cut back stock barrel?

    I build 10/22s. What we call SuperStock on Rimfire Central. All will shoot 1 MOA or better and from what we see with barrel mounted suppressors accuracy is affected very little.

    Several people have made little blocks that go in behind the charging handle to turn 10/22 into straight pull bolt action.

    If ANY 10/22 will not shoot HV and SV ammo interchangeably it has the wrong springs in it and needs to be fixed. Sounds to me like that internally suppressed 10/22 was built by people that do not understand 10/22 very well.

  • ams

    I shot a TBA 10/22 that was pretty quite. I would rather shoot it than the YHM.