Daniel Defense 32rd Magazine

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Daniel Defense unveiled their new 32 round polymer magazine at the NRAAM. At first glance the idea of a 32rd magazine seems like a waste. Why bother making a magazine with a meager increase in capacity? First thought is you can load a full 30 rounds without having to download like most people do with 30rd magazines. I have experienced a few issues trying to load a full 30 rds on a closed bolt of an AR or the IWI Tavor and too often someone chimes in and says to download two rounds. Well now with Daniel Defense’s magazine you can have 30 rounds.

 

The photos below are from Soldier Systems Daily.

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  • Don Ward

    Game changing.

    Until someone comes out with a 34 round mag that you can download to 32…

  • Jack Morris

    If it’s priced competitively with Magpul and matches their reliability, I’m in for a few. Why the hell not. I like matching components anyway so it’ll look good on my V5.

  • A Fascist Corgi

    The gun community needs to start demanding that manufacturers add steel-reinforced feed lips to their polymer magazines.

    • randomswede

      It’s “survival of the lucrative”, communicate in the language that companies understand: Money.

    • datimes

      I am quite impressed with the Lancer magazines for my MPX. Solid steel feed lips in a quality product.

    • I wish—- As in Lancer mags—

  • Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad

    Why not? 30 is an arbitrary number anyway. The only trade off you are making is size for capacity (assuming reliable function). Why not make a 29 round magazine or a 37 round magazine or a 23? The only thing to consider is that mag carriers are optimized for usgi 30 round sized magazines but other than that it really doesn’t matter.

    I like the 40/round pmags. Sure 30 is enough but if you can have 40 then why not?

    • Major Tom

      I want to be able to load 50, 60 or even 100+ rounds in a mag. Why should I be content to a mere 20 or 30?

      • Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad

        I see no reason why not. The surefire and x15 offerings seem pretty nice but can get bulky. It’s all about balancing size with capacity.

        I remember reading when the 40 round pmag came out everyone saying “why do you need 40 rounds? What is wrong with it 30?” I’m just making the point that I don’t like when people say something has to be done a certain way just because that’s how people have been doing it.

        • Twilight sparkle

          I think I’m the only one that jumped on the 40 round pmag train, I like them, they take up all of two 20 round boxes and I don’t have ten rounds floating around anywhere.

          I’d like to see ammo manufactures release 30 round boxes in the popular msr calibers.

          • iksnilol

            Lapua does it.

            Kinda ironic since people who use Lapua won’t load and fire 30 rounds of it at once 😛

          • Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad

            30 would make sense; or at least multiples of 30. IIRC Federal packages their American Eagle 5.56/.223 in 90 round boxes on 10 round stripper clips

          • Anon

            On the other hand, there are people who like 20 round magazines because they hold exactly one box of ammo, in addition to having a smaller profile.

          • Twilight sparkle

            I used to like 20s a lot for zeroing until I got a 10 rounder
            20s still look cool in certain guns though

          • My early M16 lookalike just doesn’t look right with anything but 20s… 😉

          • I used to carry 20s loaded with straight trace on live fires, as a squad leader (there’s nice little aircrew survival vest pouch that is a perfect fit for a 20, and has a MOLLE compatible setup, since MOLLE copied the interface spacing from the aircrew vest… of course, it didn’t work well on my ALICE LBE, so I had to use an old Marine Corps M14 single mag pouch with crap stuffed in the bottom when I was in).

            Tracer is a beautiful short range data link (“Grenadiers! Woodline at 2 o’clock! On my trace!”), and the 20 made sure I would never confuse it for a ball mag.

      • buzzman1

        Major, Hope you aren’t one of theys guys that cry because their rifle at 7lbs is to heavy. If you are you are definitely going to hate super high capacity mags. Besideds the weight, the physical dimensions of the super high capacity mags become a problem.

    • claymore

      Because the M-16 was for military use and ammunition came in 10 round stripper clips with a stripper clip guide inside the ammo carriers. They were nice for quick mag reloads back in safe areas.

      • Dr. Longfellow Buchenrad

        That makes sense

  • iksnilol

    It’s pretty smart. Especially if you leave mags loaded for a time then downloading them a 2-5 rounds is not a bad idea.

    • m-cameron

      can we PLEASE stop perpetuating the myth that leaving mags loaded wears out the springs…..it does not.

      • iksnilol

        Yeah, true, but it can’t hurt. I’ve seen some springs take a set and it is kinda disconcerting.

        • randomswede

          It hurts if you run dry when two more rounds could have been available.

          • Bill

            Then 4, then 6…

          • randomswede

            Well; if you download a 30 round magazine to 28 you CAN get 2 more rounds in but not 4. If your argument is “why not a 40 round magazine or 60 or 100?” then my answer is: a 30 round magazine has the same volume no matter how many rounds are in it and reload times are the same whether you get 28 rounds into the gun or 30.

        • They will only take a set if you exceed the limits. While this could happen (and often did) with certain older (generally pre-WWII) magazines, a modern, quality magazine, with modern, quality springs, will *not* take a set if left full loaded. Period.

          • iksnilol

            Define a modern quality magazine.

            Because some of my mags are 30+ years old from the USSR.

          • Pretty much anything made after WWII (and a lot made *during*, or even *before* WWII), from someone who knows metalworking well (and the Soviets certainly qualify).

            Yeah, a Warsaw Pact produced AK mag is a “modern, quality, magazine”. Plus, it can double as a bottle.opener and a tent stake mallet, with no effect on function, because they are “overbuilt” as Hell. 😉

      • Twilight sparkle

        It doesn’t wear out springs but it can leave your feed lips messed up

        • Which is why my “go to” mags are Lancers, and any Magpuls I have all have the dust covers.

  • Petto

    It looks like a Promag to me haha
    maybe those 2 extra rounds will be good for somebody

  • Travis

    Ugh… Don’t people know how to properly use apostrophes these days?

    DDs = plural
    DD’s = possessive or a contraction of “DD is”

    Proper grammar really is going the way of the dinosaurs.

    • ARCNA442

      Actually, when putting an “s” at the end of an acronym to indicate the plural, it is acceptable to include an apostrophe.

    • datimes

      My spell check doesn’t know the difference and wants to place an apostrophe before an S on any word ending in S.

      • randomswede

        Chrome’s spell check with “Ask google for suggestions” checked stops me from coming off as a teenager writing on a phone from a crashing plane.
        I doubt I’d get “it’s” and “its” in the correct places without.

    • Squirreltakular

      And a lot of people have no idea what’s going on when they see an apostrophe after the ‘s’.

  • Bub

    Picked one up for $20 at NRA show. Haven’t had a chance to try it out yet, but appears to be quality product.

  • Adam D.

    I kind of like the idea.
    I’m a novice shooter, I have short and pretty weak fingers, and I simply can’t squeeze 30rds into a PMAG, 29 is the maximum I can load.

    • Big Daddy

      At first it’s difficult, the spring is tight. I’m 59 and have arthritic hands and I can load 30. I suggest you get a Maglula.

      • ^ THIS. Or, get stripper clips and learn how to use them. Or get a Cammegna loader.

  • Dracon1201

    I like the looks.

  • smartacus

    i wish SureFire came out with a short fatty 32rd magazine

    • Harry’s Holsters

      That’s the best idea I’ve heard yet!

  • Twilight sparkle

    I’m not 100% sure but I thought his post was a sarcastic reference to how the Ak community demands steel reinforced feed lips and locking lugs in all of our magazines.

    • A Fascist Corgi

      I wasn’t being sarcastic.

  • Billy Jack

    I’m going to patent a 33 1/3 magazine with 3 hollow pins in the side with 5 interlocking interior pins made of titanium.

  • Nathan Alred

    Why do I suspect that the entire point of this exercise was to be able to make the obvious “32 Double Dee” joke in their advert? Other than that, I see no marginal benefit to 32 rounds versus 30.

    • jackalo626

      I don’t think they are touting it as the end all be all but it is just another product that of you like you have more options and competition and options go hand and hand. That being said if you had fired 30rds from your gun and the threat still was approaching…..then those two last rounds you might credit for saving your life. Mostly just another option for the gun culture.

  • Grant

    Lancer solid mags only cost a few dollars more than pmags & the translucent Lancers can be found online for around $15. Both are better than a pmags in my opinion, especially if you leave them loaded for long periods of time.

    Besides the translucent mags just look cool.

    • BAC

      Got anything empirical to support that or are we going by look & feel?

      • I’ve owned PMags that had feed lip failures from being left loaded wothout the “dust cover”. I’ve miked my Lancers, and they don’t go out of spec. Ive also seen PMags with plenty of wear on the feedlips from heavy use, but haven’t noticed the same wear on my Lancers.

        So, I’m perfectly happy paying a couple of bucks more for Lancers (and I’ve seen – and bought – Lancers only about two bucks more than the closest equivalent PMag). And if I get the translucent ones, I can more easily and quickly see not just how much ammo it has, but can verify the projectile type if I want to, without dropping the mag.

        Now, if Lancers were, say, twice as much as PMags, I might prefer PMags. But they aren’t. The price difference is less than the daily cost of gas for my fairly short commute to work.

  • DIR911911 .

    don’t uzi’s have 32 rounders? . . . what’s old is new again

    • Uzis have 32 rounders for the same reason a lot of SMGs of the era (and earlier) did: 9x19mm was often packaged for military use in multiples of 8.

  • Spartan

    It’s good to down load AR rifle mags by 2 anyway. That allows you to seat and lock the mag without an issue when the bolt is forward. I guess we now have a true 30 round mag. Makes it easy loading them with stripper clips too. No more stripper clips with 2 rounds hanging off it. Hope they feed properly and don’t dump more than one round in the receiver when they get hot.

  • buzzman1

    Years ago M-16A1s wouldn’t feed if you loaded a full 30 rds in the mags. I found 29 rounds worked fine.

  • buzzman1

    SF, Aluminum mag feed lips spread so much on their first use that they can’t be used in a M-249. Causes double feeds. When I was active duty the number one cause of rifle malfunctions were caused by the aluminum mags. We also had some steel mags that were older than the soldiers using them and they never caused a problem.
    Polymore mags are good but not perfect but the Lancer mags are the best.

  • Sam Green

    SF, That’s not exactly the point, one cannot predict when a disposable USGI, PMAG or Lancer magazine is going to fail.

    If it’s overbuilt, generally you can count on it to not malfunctioning when your under duress & need it.

    I love Lancer magazines and I’m fond of PMAGs, I don’t particularly like metal USGI magazines, but I don’t hate them.

    As far as this Daniel Defense magazine, perhaps I missed it but I was interested in the specs as far as physical dimensions, including it’s floorplate.
    PS, Apologize for resurrecting a 30 day old article.