Whats New At World Guns: An SKS Shotgun?!?!!?

Over the past month my good friend Max Popenker has been focusing on adding shotguns to his World.Guns.Ru database. The most interesting new gun added is the VPO-208 semi-automatic shotgun manufactured by Molot. It is essentially and SKS shotgun with a smoothbore barrel. The end of the barrel has rifling, making it technically a “paradox” barrel not a smoothbore. It is chambered in .336 TKM, which is a 7.62x39mm case necked up to .336 TKM, essentially a small shotgun slug in a rifle case.

Why would you do this? Certain countries only allow civilians to own semi-automatic shotguns, not semi-automatic rifles. Russia is one of these, Turkey is another I know of and I am sure there are others out there. This allows civilians to own a half-effective semi-auto rifle.I say half effective, because it would lack the long range accuracy of a carbine, but still do significant damage at shorter ranges.

Also new at WGR is the Fostech Origin-12 shotgun. This shotgun is made in the USA and competes with the Kalashnikov Saiga 12-style of magazine 12 gauge. It is available with a surprising shot barrel …


Photo by Oleg Volk

Other new shotguns at WGR added in November:

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  • dshield55

    The .336 TKM conversions of guns to “shotguns” was rather genius. Gun laws were created to be exploited. Apparently.

    • Paul Epstein

      Holds true pretty much everywhere, I know both the US with the bumpfire stocks and the Sig totally-not-a-stock-bro brace, and the UK with their crazy long barreled blackpowder revolvers both have that mentality of if it’s within the rules, even by a small stretch, we can do it. Clearly the Russians and their companies have the same spirit.

      • James


        Stealing that.

      • AD

        When I was living in the UK a few years ago, normal percussion revolvers were legal and I fired one once or twice at a club. Of course modern cartridge revolvers were not, as you said some people owned very long barreled revolvers with iron rods welded to the back to increase the overall length to meet the legal limit.

        Not sure if the laws on percussion revolvers have changed since then.

  • JamesRPatrick

    Way too much going on there.

  • Matrix3692

    Is it just me, or that Origin-12 looks too much like a Bolter?

  • iksnilol

    Could probably still have some range. Something like 200-300 meters with slugs.

    Way more than a conventional 12 ga with slugs.

    I wonder what the velocity drop is like, the heavy weight of the bullet suggests you could load something lighter and more aerodynamic.

  • DW

    Catus B2-36 is dank sexy.

  • Porty1119

    Semiautomatic rifles are legal in Russia, but require the individual to have held a shotgun license for at least five years.

    • iksnilol

      And this thingy is made to be a rifle under shotgun laws.

      Kinda like those ultralightweight cars you can drive with a motorcycle license.

      • UCSPanther

        Yes, the three-wheeled cars like the iconic Reliant Robin were prime examples of skirting British Laws on driver’s exams.

    • Scott P


      Molot markets an AKM built from ex-Izhevsk/Izhmash AKM’s called the Vepr KM VPO-136 in semi-auto format. If they made some U.S. compliant mods this thing would sell like crazy here since the sanctions don’t ban Molot from importing guns.

  • Scott P

    Molot VEPR shotguns are still legal to import and are still coming in now as we speak. Many say that they are better than the Saiga shotguns. Unless the sanctions are expanded to cover everything Russian it will be hard for Fostech to compete with the VEPR 12 gauge.

  • Vic19993

    It’s made in order to bypass 5-year-waiting-period to get a Rifle in Russia (at first you have to own shotgun for 5 years and only after that you are allowed to own rifles)

  • Southpaw89

    I’m guessing that a load of buckshot for this chamber would perform more like a duplex or triplex load. Its not without a certain appeal.

    • gunsandrockets

      Probably can handle three 000 buckshot pellets and spin stabilize them.

  • gunsandrockets

    .336 TKM? I strongly suspect that is a typo because of a mistake in english unit conversion from 9.55mm. The actual designation should be closer to .376 inches.

  • Rocketman

    That .336 TKM would make a fine home defense weapon if it could use slugs. Wonder what the recoil is like?

  • imachinegunstuff

    Would buy in 410