Ouch! All The Guns Must Go in Divorce Settlement

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Its a sad day when a collection goes up for sale, especially when it is not because of an owner’s death. In this case, some poor soul is getting divorced and its obvious that someone is getting half (or more!).

While we get these tips from readers on a fairly regular basis, the depth and breadth of offerings from the auction is astounding. Over 200 guns from all makes and models. Revolvers, semi-autos, lever-action, “military style”, the list goes on and on. It even includes a cased Thompson.

Those interested and near Greenbriar, Arkansas can bid on them this Saturday. 

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Poor fella…

GUN SAFES

Safes to be listed soon.

DISPLAY GUNS

Alied Armament M1919A4 Semi Automatic .30 Cal
Allen & Thurber Pepperbox .30 Cal
Auto Ordinance Korean War Commemorative 45 Cal ACP In Glass Display Case
Bushmaster XM15-E2S 5.56mm AR 15  CMC Crows Foot Pirate Gun 36 Cal
Colt Buntline Scout Revolver 22 Mag
Parlor Gun 6mm
Ruger 10/22 MG42 Stock Kit 22 LR
Springfield Armory M1 Garand Rifle 30-06

BLACK POWDER

Double Barrel Antique Black Powder 12 gauge
Iver Johnson Armi San Marco/Double 50 Cal black powder

SHOTGUNS

Browning A5-Acier Special C12 12 ga
Browning Sweet Sixteen 16 ga
Browning 2000 Automatic 12 ga
Greener Police Gun Mark III 12 ga
Heckler-Koch FP6 Pump 12 ga
IAC 97 Trench Gun, Pump 12 ga
Ithaca 37 Feather Light Pump 16 ga
Ithaca Hammerless Double 12 ga
Ithaca XL-300 Auto 12 ga
Ithaca M-66 Super Single 12 ga
Marlin Model 410 Lever Remington 1100 Automatic 12 ga
Remington 1100 Automatic 16 ga
Remington 1100 Automatic 20 ga
Remington 1100 Automatic 410
Remington 870 Pump Action 12 ga
Remington 870 Mag 12 ga
Remington 11, A5 Automatic 12 ga
Remington Wingmaster 870 Pump 12 ga
Remington Sportman 48 16 ga
W. Richards S x S Hammer Gun 12 ga
Winchester 1897 Pump 12 ga
Winchester Model 12 16 ga
Winchester Model 12 16 ga
Winchester Model 12 16 ga
Winchester 101 Skeet 12 ga O/U
Winchester Ranger 1300 Deluxe Youth 20 ga

HAND GUNS

A.A. Arms Ap9 Automatic Pistol 9 mm
A.A. Arms Ap9 Automatic Pistol 9 mm
AMT Back Up Automatic Pistol 45 ACP
AMT Automag II Automatic Pistol 22 Mag
Astra Cub Automatic Pistol  25 AUTO
Astra 400 Astra 600
Astra w/ Holster 600/43 Automatic Pistol
ATI GSG-5P 22
Ballester-Molina Colt 45 Automatic Pistol 45 ACP
Beistegui Bros Revolver 32-20 Long
Beretta P x 4F Compact 9mm
Beretta 950 BS Automatic Pistol 22 short
Beretta 70S Automatic Pistol 22 LR
Beretta 950BS Automatic Pistol 25 ACP
Beretta 70 Automatic Pistol 7.65
Beretta U22NEOS Automatic Pistol 22
Bernardelli Model 80 Automatic Pistol 380
Bernardelli Model 90 Automatic Pistol 22
Bond Arms Texas Defender 410/45
Calico M-110 Semi Auto Pistol 22 LR
Charter Arms Explorer II, Pistol 22
Claridge Hi-Tec L-9 semi-automatic Pistol 9 x 19mm
Classic Arms Twister 22
Clerke Techi Corp Clerke 1st 22 LR
Colt Frontier Scout Revolver 22 LR .
Colt Automatic 25 AUTO
Colt Frontier Scout Revolver 22 Mag
Colt Junior Automatic Pistol 22 short
Colt 1903 Automatic Pistol 32 Rimless
Colt Frontier Scout Revolver 22 LR
Colt New Frontier Revolver 22/22 Mag
Czech (She) CZ M52 Semi Automatic 7.62 x 45
Czech (She) CZ M52 Semi Automatic 7.62 x 45
Czech (She) CZ M52 Semi Automatic 7.62 x 45
Deutsche Werke Ortgies Automatic Pistol 7.65 mm
EIG E1 RG10 Revolver 22 Short
Erma-Excam RX22 Automatic Pistol 22
Ethan Allen Side Hammer
FEG, HUNGARY AP9   (PA-63) 9MM SHORT
Fegyvergyar PA-63 Automatic Pistol 9 x 18 MAK
Fegyvergyar Frommer 7.65 mm
Glock Model 30 45 Acp
Grendel P-10 Automatic Pistol .380 Auto
H & R Self Loading 32
Harrington Richardson Break top 32 S&W
Harrington Richardson Break top 32 S&W
Havia Starter Pistol Blanks
High Standard Hi-Standard (B) Automatic Pistol 22 LR
High Standard Derringer 22 Mag
I.M.I. DESERT EAGLE 50AE/44 MAG
I.W.I. Israel UZI Pistol 22
Intratec Scorpion Automatic Pistol 22
Iver Johnson TP22 22
Iver Johnson Pony Automatic Pistol 380
Laserarm Arms 1911    4525FS .45 ACP
MAB Le Chasseur 22 LR
Mauser 1914 Pistol 7.65 mm
Mili Piney Flats Thunder Five .410/.45LG
OFI RP-22 Revolver 22 Mag
Paramount 1915 Automatic Pistol 32 Cal
Parker 1911 S.S. Pistol 10mm
Professional Ordinance Carbon-15 Pistol 5.56 AR15
ROHM RG10 Revolver 22 Short
RTS 1966 Starter Pistol 22 blanks
RTS 1966 Starter Pistol 22 blanks
Ruger Single 6 Convertible S.S. 22/22 Mag
Ruger GP 100 Revolver 357 mag
Ruger 22 Charger Automatic Pistol  22
Ruger LCR Automatic Pistol 357 mag
Ruger Super Blackhawk Revolver .44 Mag
Ruger Mark II Automatic Pistol 22
Ruger Single Six Bisley 22
Ruger Mark III Hunter Automatic Pistol 22
Ruger  GP100 Revolver 357 Mag
S.W.D. COBRAY M-11/NINE 9mm
Savage 1917 Pistol 7.65 mm
Savage 101 Single Shot Revolver 22 LR
Sig Sauer P226 Two Tone
Sig Sauer P239 Two Tone
Sig Sauer 1911-22 OD Automatic Pistol 22
Sig Sauer P522 Automatic Pistol 22
Smith & Wesson 28-2 Revolver 357
Smith & Wesson 422 Pistol 22 LR
Smith & Wesson 459 Automatic Pistol 9mm
Smith & Wesson 37 Airweight 38 Spl
Smith & Wesson Victory 38 Spl
Smith & Wesson SD9VE Automatic Pistol 9mm
Smith & Wesson Lemon Squeezer 32 S&W
Springfield Armory XD-45 ACP 45 ACP
Springfield Armory XD-40 40 Cal
Springfield Armory XDM-9 9 x 19mm
Star BM Semi Auto 9mm
Star BM Automatic Pistol 9 mm
Stoeger Luger Automatic Pistol 22
Taurus PT 100 AFS 40 Cal
Taurus M941 S.S. Revolver 22 mag
Taurus Single Action Revolver 45 LC
Taurus Single Action Revolver 357 Mag
Walther PPK/S 9mm kurz
Wise Lite Arms Cole Fire Mag SA/Pistol

PUMP RIFLES

(Rossi) Interarms M59 Pump 22 Mag
Winchester Deluxe 270 22

RIFLES

O.F.Mossberg 152 Semi Auto 22
Auto Ordinance 1927A1 Thompson 45ACP Tommy Gun
Beretta Stampede 45 LC REVOLVING CARBINE
Bronco Single Action Rifle 22 LR
Calico M-100 Semi Auto Rifle 22 LR
Charter Arms Explorer, Rifle AR-7 22
Colt Colteer Rifle 22 LR
Czech  CZ52 Semi Auto RifleCZECH AYM (she) CZ 52 Semi Auto 7.62 x 45
Daisy & Heddon VL Rifle 22 Caseless
Hakim Semi-Auto Rifle 7.9 mm
JC Higgins 30 Semi Auto 22
Keystone Sporting Arms Crickett 22 Mag
Marlin Papoose, Takedown Rifle 22 LR
Marlin Marlin Safety, Parts Gun 32-20 Cal
Marlin 99 M1 Semi Auto Rifle 22 LR M1 CARBINE
Marlin Model 60 22
MSAR STG-556 (AUG) 0.223
Persian 98-29 Mauser 8mm Mauser
Polish TTC Semi Auto Rifle 7.62 x 25
Precision Ind. Single Shot Rifle 22 LR
Remington 33 Bolt  22
Ruger Mini-14 Blue .223 Cal
Ruger Model 10/22 Stainless 22 LR
Ruger No. 1 45-70
Ruger Model 10/22 22 LR
Ruger Gunsight Scout 308 Win
Ruger Mini-14, Ranch Rifle 0.223
Ruger Model 10/22  .17 M2
Ruger  10/22 Krinker Plinker 22 LR
Ruger Model 10/22 22
Ruger Model 10/22 22
Ruger 10/22 Takedown 22 LR
Ruger M1 Conversion  Model 10/22 22 M1 CARBINE
Ruger W/ Rings All-Weather 77-22 Bolt 22 Mag
Ruger W/ Scope M77 Mark II Bolt 30-06
Ruger W/ Scope M77 Mark II Bolt 270
Ruger W/ Scope M77 Mark II Bolt .300 Win Mag
Ruger W/Scope Model 10/22 22 LR
Santa Fe 1903/A3 30-06
Simon Boys Rifle, Bolt 22 LR
Sportsman 78 Bolt Action 30-338
Springfield Armory US Garand Rifle 30-06
Taurus 172 Pump Action .17 HMR
Thompson/Center Icon 22-250 Rem
US Springfield 1884 Trap Door 45-70
Walther G22 Rifle 22
Weatherby Vanguard 30-06
Winchester 100 Semi Auto 308
Winchester 190 Semi Auto Rifle 22 LR
Winchester 77 Semi Auto Tube Feed 22L
Winchester Model 70  7mm REM Mag
Winchester Model 70  300 WS
Winchester Model 63 22

LEVER ACTION RIFLES

Browning BL-22, Lever Action 22
Henry Golden Boy Lever Action 22 Mag Golden Scope
Marlin No. 32 Marlin 336 R.C. Lever Action 30-30
Marlin 336 Lever Action 30-30
Savage 99 Lever Action .300 SAV.
Winchester 94 AE Lever Action 30-30
Winchester 94 Lever Action 30-30
Winchester 94 Lever Action 30-30
Winchester 94 AE Lever Action 30-30
Winchester 94 Lever Action 30-30
Winchester 94 Lever Action 30-30
Winchester 94 Lever Action 30-30
Winchester 94 Antique Saddle Ring 30-30
Winchester Model 94 38-55 W
Winchester Buffalo Bill Commemorative 30-30
Winchester Oliver Commemorative 38-55

MILITARY RIFLES

A.C.C. SKS 7.62 x 39
Allied Armament PPSH-41 7.62 x 25
ArmaLite M15 5.56 mm AR15
ArmaLIte M15A2 5.56 mm AR15
Arms Corporation AK47/22 22 AK47
Armscore 1600R 22 AR15
Arnscor Model 1600C 22 LR AR15
ATI AK47/22 22 AK47
ATI GSG-5 22
ATI GSG-5PK 22
Barrett M468 6.8
BCD Mauser Model 98 8mm Mauser
BCD Mauser Model 98 8mm
British Enfield SHT L.E. III .303 UK
Bushmaster XM15 5.56 mm AR15 sub machine
Bushmaster XM15 5.56 mm AR15
Bushmaster XM15-E2S 5.56 mm AR15
Bushmaster LEO XM15-E2S 5.56 mm AR15
Carcano Terni Carbine 6.5 x 52
Century Arms M74 5.45 x 39 AK47
Century Arms CETME Sporter 0.308
Ceskoslovenska VZ24 8mm
Daewoo Precision DR-200 Semi Automatic 0.223
DC Industries NDS-3 AK-47 7.62 x 39mm
Del- Ton Inc. DTI-15, AR-15 5.56mm
DPMS Panther Arms LR-308 AR-10 0.308
DPMS Panther Arms A-150 AR-15 6.8 Cal
Enfield NO.4 MK.1 Tanker 0.303
Enfield NO.5 Jungle Carbine 0.303
French MAS MLE1949-56 0.308
Imbel FAL 308 Inland US Carbine M1 30 Carbine
Inland US Carbine M1 30 Carbine
Inland US Carbine M1 30 Carbine
Inland US Carbine M1 30 Carbine
Inland US Carbine M1 30 Carbine
Inland US Carbine M1 30 Carbine
Inland US Carbine M1 30 Carbine
Inland Div. M1 Carbine 30 Carbine
MAS  MLE 1949-56 Semi Auto 7.5
Masin Nagant M44 1952 7.62 x 54 R
Mitchell Arms Jager AP84 22 AK47
Mitchell Arms Jager AP-74 22 AK47
Mosin Nagant 9130 Sniper 7.62 x 54 R
Mosin Nagant M44  7.62 x 54 R
Mosin Nagant M59 Bolt Action 7.62 x 54R
Mosin Nagant M91/30 Bolt Action 7.62 x 54
Mosin Nagant M91/30 Bolt Action 7.62 x 54
Norinco SKS 7.62 x 39
Norinco SKS 7.62 x 39
Norinco SKS 7.62 x 39mm
Norinco SKS Sporter 7.62 x 39mm
Norinco SKS 7.62 x 39mm
Norinco SKS 7.62 x 39
Norinco SKS 7.62 x 39
Norinco MAK90 7.62 x 39 AK47
Norinco SKS 7.62 x 39
Norinco SKS 7.62 x 39
Norinco SKS Sporter AK 7.62 x 39
Norinco SKS Paratrooper 7.62 x 39
Norinco UZI Carbine 9mm
Palmetto Pa-15, AR-15 Multi
Pioneer Arms Corp PPS43-C 7.62 x 25
Polytech M-14S 0.308
Polytech M-14S 0.308
Quality Hardware US Carbine M1 30 Carbine
Remington R-15 0.223 AR15
Romania Romak 991, AK-47 7.62 x 39mm
Romanian WASR-3 5.56 x 45 AK47
Ruger Semi Automatic Carbine .40 Auto M1 CARBINE
Russain SKS 7.62 x 39
Russian SKS 7.62 x 39
Sig Sauer Sig 522 Semi Automatic 22
Spike’s Tactical SL15 Multi AR15
Springfield M1A  308
State Arms Gun Co Dicke Berta, Single Bolt .50 BMG
Sterling SMG MK4 (L2A3)
Sterling SMG MK4 (L2A3) 9MM
Steyr Austria Model 1912 Nato 0.308
Tactical Innovations T15 Multi AR15
Underwood US Carbine M1 30 Carbine
US Rifle 1970 Eddy Stone 30-06
Wise Lite Arms S/A Sterling Sporter 9mm
Yankee Hill Machine Co. YHM-15 Multi AR15
Yugo Mod59/66 SKS 7.62 x 39

OTHER GUNS

USA Performance Viper M1, Paintball
SHE 82 flare gun 27 mm
Ruger Air Hawk Combo 0.177 Pellet Rifle


Nathan S.

One of TFB’s resident Jarheads, Nathan now works within the firearms industry. A consecutive Marine rifle and pistol expert, he enjoys local 3-gun, NFA, gunsmithing, MSR’s, & high-speed gear. Nathan has traveled to over 30 countries working with US DoD & foreign MoDs.

Nathan can be reached at Nathan.S@TheFirearmBlog.com

The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization.


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  • Belgium dude …

    remember me to never get married

    • smartacus

      exactly! Do Not Marry. Ever!

  • Kirk Newsted

    Instead of selling them I would have given her half of them. Make her do the rest.

  • Jack Morris

    I’ve always wondered why somebody would want this many guns. Wouldn’t it be a pain in the a$$ to maintain them all? Hell, I’m downsizing from my collection of 15 because I realized several of them hadn’t been used in years.

    • Jack Morris

      To be clear, I’m not judging the man. It just seems like more trouble than it’s worth (especially given his current circumstances)

      • El Duderino

        Looks like someone who’s been buying guns out of Shotgun News for 35 years. Or inherited that collection. Other than what sound like NFA guns and a handful of the others, none of these are particularly rare.

        Before things came to a grinding legal halt here in WA, a lot of guys bought a gun when they had money and sold it when they needed the dough. This guy looks like one who just never needed to sell one.

        • Jack Morris

          Probably so. I just couldn’t see a collector buying up so many “meh” firearms. I see a lot of Charter, Taurus, Savage, Bushmaster etc.

          • El Duderino

            Pretty much. 14 SKSes.

          • The Believer

            Similar demographics there to certain suburbs of New Orleans.

            If your city got hit by a natural disaster, wouldn’t you want to live in this guys neighborhood?

          • Scott P

            Not knowing this guy’s age chances are he bought all those SKS’s back when you could get them for $75 a pop and was hanging on to them as an investment. Considering what Chinese and Russian SKS’s go for now he at least made a return on his investment especially the Russian one’s which have shot up drastically.

          • The Believer

            I dunno. There’s obviously some stuff in there from Taurus and Charter that isn’t so great. But the Charter Arms Explorer? That might be an interesting (if terrible) gun to own. The Bernadellis also sound.. not so good. The rest of it looks pretty good.

            And the SKS’s, Bushmaster basic AR15s, M1’s? These make sense to me either as the stock of either someone who experimented in selling guns, or someone’s ‘arm the neighbourhood’ emergency plan.

        • I agree. Lotta stuff in the collection, but there’s no common thread or anything particularly rare. If I were spending that much money on guns, I’d have fewer-more-interesting guns to show for it. My gut feeling is that this guy’s spending habits may have been a direct cause of his divorce.

    • Ian Thorne

      I don’t understand having 9 SKS’s or 10 M1 Carbine’s, but if I only had 15 guns I would get bored. With the exception of my self defense guns I don’t want to shoot the same guns a lot, I want variety. Or I could shoot less, which isn’t going to happen.

      • Jack Morris

        Fair enough. I like shooting a small collection frequently. All of my guns have many thousands of rounds through each. I don’t hunt or do any crazy long distance stuff so I guess my primary reason for gun ownership is defense. The few defense guns I own, I want to be an amazing shot with.

        But yeah, 10 M1 Carbines seems more like a hoarding disorder than a solid collection.

  • Sell each one for a penny and gladly hand over the proceeds to the ex-wife that cucked him. Malicious compliance is your friend in a divorce.

    • Ian Thorne

      Nope, if a court finds you do it in bad faith, which they often do, you are on the hook for the full value of the undersold items to be determined by the lawyer and judge. Happened to a buddy of mine when he sold an S2000 for 15 bucks and the lawyer hit him with a $14K bill for it, half of the book value at the time. Approved by the judge.

      • Pride is more valuable than money. At some point, we all become judgement proof.

  • ixlr8

    The wife gets points for the ruthless execution of division of common property. Don’t let my wife get that lawyers name….

  • mosinman

    it’s stuff like this that makes me not want to get married

    • smartacus

      Good man! NEVER GET MARRIED. keep your sanity, keep your money, keep your clean record

    • M40

      My last ‘long-term’ relationship lasted about a year. It ended when I took a long,
      hard look at her life and situation. She was in her 40’s, worked in low-level
      retail jobs, rented an apartment, made payments on a used minivan, etc. One
      day it occurred to me that my single-malt scotch collection was worth more than
      she was. How does someone reach age 40 and have virtually nothing to show for
      it???

      I dated another girl for a couple years. She was driving around in a car that was much nicer than mine. She was constantly buying nice clothes, eating in fancy restaurants, shoe shopping, and going on vacations. Then I found out that she was more than $40K deep in credit card debt (plus a hefty car loan). She was in her late thirties, owned nothing but a pile of clothes, and was up to her neck in debt. She was making minimum payments and had absolutely no plan on how she was going to get out of that hole she’d dug.

      I own a small home in a nice town. I own my crummy car, own my business, and have assets. I will NEVER sign a piece of paper that gives someone the right to half of everything I’ve managed to earn. Any potential girl for me will need to have something to show for her life. I simply will not consider anyone as a future Mrs. unless she comes into the relationship with something approaching equivalent assets. As I’ve found, this significantly narrows the field of candidates.

      • mosinman

        good way to look at it

      • iksnilol

        What attracted you to those two first ones?

        • M40

          Nice headlights can have a blinding effect…

          • iksnilol

            Ah, gotcha. Still, why make something that’s only physical into something that’s long term? That just sounds like a bad idea.

      • JP Merlano

        Your experience is now priceless!

      • Ben Pottinger

        Technically anything you own prior to getting married is yours and not subject to being divided during divorce proceedings. of course we know judges do whatever they want regardless the law.

        Your requirements for a GF/wife are pretty selfish. It’s mindsets like that th at lead to divorce. It’s easy to judge a relationship by what you get out of it when your young attractive and healthy. Both parties can sit back and constantly reassess and get up and leave whenever the math isn’t in their favor, just like any other transaction. But what happens when you get sick? Then your alone because your relationships were based on what was best for you (or what was best for her) and sticking around for sick people just doesn’t compute.

        The relationships that really deserve respect are the ones that make no logical sense, yet the two people still love each other and stay with each other.

        Bummer for this guy his wasn’t like that. But, on the bright side maybe someone picked up some great deals! I still have two guns I got at rock bottom prices thanks to a “near” divorce (his soon to be ex demanded he sell his guns. His guns or her. While I respect his choice, it was clearly the wrong one. Lol)

  • Good God. This only strengthens my internal argument to stay single.

    • Grindstone50k

      Sure, THAT’S why you’re single…

      😉

      • Pshhh, you have no idea how many women I have pulled at bars by casually dropping a TFB business card down…

        …I mean, still zero, but I am not out of cards yet.

        • kipy

          Bromance is all you and Patrick need. And a hot barreled Nambu 🙂

          • iksnilol

            Just watch your legs with that Nambu.

        • smartacus

          Alex! go MGTOW!
          good for your health and lengthens your LIFE!!!
          go to youtube and watch
          sandman, johntheother, neo unplugged, truth over everything, raging golden eagle, mayor of mgtown, ayam sirias, and Turd Flinging Monkey!!!

          • iksnilol

            How do you intend on keeping the species alive if you don’t reproduce? How do you intend on spreading your genes (your biological purpose)?And don’t suggest impregnating a woman and then bailing, that is just pathetic.

            Look, I don’t really plan on getting married/relationshipped for personal/mental reasons but for most people it works out well.

          • smartacus

            Sorry, but I have to correct you. Marriage absolutely and utterly does NOT work out well for most people. That is just fact and I know you know it too.
            Long gone are the good old days when the state only stole 50% of his money and belongings to the ex-wife.
            -And why is it male responsibility to suck it up and accept women just to keep the species alive with half diluted copies of ourselves? Why aren’t women worrying about demographic winter? Mankind’s last hope is the extinction of the female species (which will happen once the artificial womb is perfected next decade)

          • Good lord dude, why so much hate for women? I don’t want to get married or have children or anything, but I value my friends (regardless of their chromosomal configuration) greatly. Hell, women are one of the things that make life worth living.

          • smartacus

            nah, I IWISH I could hate. it’s pure objective logic.
            Women are not one of the things that make life worth living. Alex, imagine how much more creative and successful you can be when you give up on women!
            Some of the most important people to improve the human race did so without women.
            Leonardo da Vinci, Sir Isaac Newton , Nicola Tesla.
            or my favorites; The Wright Brothers.
            Mankind’s longest dream for thousands of years was to fly. Who made it happen? two bachelors, two American bachelors. How long could their ridiculous dream of flight have lived if they had the responsibility of wives at home? Or worse yet, if they were nagging wives.

          • Yeah, no. The three things in my life that bring me the most joy are cars, marksmanship, and women. I am not keen on giving up on any of them.
            And I will live my life the way I want to. I don’t care about being a Tesla or Isaac Newton; I just want to live a long, happy life and women have been very conducive to that so far.
            Hell, ask Patrick about it. If he ever rings me up in the morning to talk shop he will give me hell or laugh about whatever girls voice is in the background. It usually goes “oh hey, is that (previous girls name)”, “no, new one”. He keeps saying one of these will catch my eye for a long term deal, but whatever.

          • smartacus

            I used to be into cars, marksmanship, and women till I realized women can only serve to keep me from cars and marksmanship … aaand women.

          • iksnilol

            Uh, those people also were A) bats*** crazy and B) Way smarter than your average or not so average Joe (or Jane).

            Then again, Newton had it easy, he never had a physics test.

          • The Brigadier

            Da Vinci certainly had documented girlfriends. I suspect Newton was a paranoiac and simply distrusted women too much to have sex with any of them. I don’t know about Tesla. He might have been the smartest man who ever lived and finding a compatible wife mentally close to his towering intellect must have been problematic. Its too bad for all of us his genes were not passed on. For the rest of us its no big shakes.

          • smartacus

            II don’t know if Newton devoted enough time or mental faculties into being paranoid around women. He had such an active mind even in his free time. In fact; he came up with Calculus while Cambridge was shut down due to The Plague.
            Tesla was also an active thinker who never could have found time for the responsibilities of married life.
            And I never heard of Leonardo da Vinci having a girlfriend.

          • Tesla died a broken and destitute man living alone until his death.

          • smartacus

            Phil, please tell me it was because he did not have a wife

          • No he was a pretty bad businessman and large companies of the time found ways to use his inventions and not pay him.

          • Hyok Kim

            So much for free enterprise.

          • iksnilol

            Uh, you seem to struggle with biology a bit.

            If the whole gender thing wasn’t necessary for humans then we would have evolved to do the whole partenogenesis thing a long time ago.

            Also, hate to admit it but marriage works out well for the majority. And I refuse to do the whole FUD and panic thing on principle, doubly so if it’s because of some people marrying way too early or the wrong person.

            Just because you have had bad luck with females doesn’t mean the rest of the world has (though I will admit, the Tumblr misognysts that call themselves feminists or meninists are really annoying).

          • smartacus

            you seem to struggle with biology too.
            the correct spelling is parthenogenesis and humans were locked out of it long long before our species, genus, family, or order ever even existed.
            -ok ok, you can believe what you want, but it’s still fact. it’s there, it’s been proven and accepted MARRIAGE. DOESN’T. WORK. The only time marriage may have had a chance was a period of time in the 50’s because WW2 killed off a lot of young men making husbands more valuable.
            And even the very few that “work” don’t really work. I’m not even talking about wives who get pregnant while cheating and the husband decides “it’s cheaper to keep her”.
            *oh yeah, and by conferring I must have had bad luck with females… is actually a psychological projection of your own bad experience in your teens or twenties. You basically just admitted and confessed like a fibber blushing and blinking with eyes watering. Why would you even do that?

          • iksnilol

            I didn’t project or confess to anything. If I did have the problems with women that you have then I would be like you. Thank [whatever deity you believe in or don’t believe in] I am not like you. Because, frankly, you sound pathetic. The way you are talking about women is like I would talk about parasites (actual, honest to goodness parasites that ate half a lamb last year).

          • smartacus

            Why would I sound pathetic to you? And how do you think you sound to me?
            You sure did project and confess. it was something that we weren’t even talking about. It came from your memory. I certainly didn’t bring up anything about being successful with women. I didn’t get fearful and defensive saying NO NO NO I had to beat off the last 5 secretaries at my workplace with a stick 😉
            Again, now you projected something again. This time belief in God.I don’t know what belief in God has anything to do with anything here. Nobody brought it up. You just projected your questioning your own faith. Why you keep on doing that?
            -My belief in God or lack thereof? I was raised into a family and community that believed In the teachings of a man also known as the lamb of God who… just happened never to get married.
            **sorry about your lamb being lost to parasites, that’s sad and I do feel for you there.

          • iksnilol

            Probably because you hate on women more than a guy hates his car dealer who ripped him off. It’s just trends, you expect somebody to act or think a certain way because of their experiences with something. I assumed you had lots of negative experiences with women.

            Jesus also got nailed to a cross, and he didn’t use toilet paper.

            *I didn’t lose the lamb, I saved that cute little f****** in spite of wanting to throw up several times.

          • smartacus

            yeah but you just projected again. Nobody was talking about car dealer ripping guys off. It had to come from your memory. But yeah that’s a good analogy.
            *glad you saved the lamb, that ‘s good 🙂

          • iksnilol

            Look, analogy==projection.

          • smartacus

            huh? =/

          • iksnilol

            You said that I was projecting when I was merely using analogies.

          • smartacus

            oooh ok , then yeah nevermind
            -When you said I probably hate women and had bad experiences with them and how you thanked “whatever deity” I believe in or not that you aren’t like me; those were not projections of admission from your personal experiences, but only analogies.

          • iksnilol

            The whole deity thing I did for flexibility. I don’t want to offend someones sensibilities. I concluded that you probably hated women and had bad experiences because the latter leads to the former (bad experience leads to disdain).

            Hate is a good thing at the right time, I should know since it kept me alive for several years, but in the it burns you up. See? That was an admission, an admission that I did hate before and that it kept me alive.

          • The Brigadier

            Not even going where you are Smartacus. I like women and like to be around them, I simply will not remarry any of them and I certainly will have no more children. Three is enough and they are all hard working adults. They can continue our species.

          • smartacus

            exactly, the species will continue just fine. Not everyone needs to reproduce. Tesla, Newton, daVinci, the Wright Brothers; to name a few, didn’t even marry and their contributions to mankind is incalculable.

          • Short answer: I don’t. I would rather remain single and not “spread my genes”. Having kids terrifies me and my pocketbook.
            My sister is getting married next month though, so I will leave the burden of passing on the family lineage to her.

          • iksnilol

            That’s an honest answer I can respect. I would rather remain single mainly because I am, and I am using the medical term here, a nutcase. + not having kids makes you eligible for the cool uncle status.

            Sure, I don’t mind having fun and whatnot but something long term I doubt will happen. Simply not built for that.

          • Hyok Kim

            Maybe in Norway

          • iksnilol

            What do you mean? I just mentioned biological purpose. If nobody reproduced humanity would die out in a generation.

          • Hyok Kim

            Maybe time for ‘Brave New World’?

          • janklow

            ah, just what i want with my “firearms, not politics” website: overly-dramatic MRA nonsense

          • Lucas Devereaux

            Lol! “MGTOW”.

            No Alex, DON’T go “MGTOW”. It’s basically the male equivalent of lesbian separatism. Without as much ghey.

            If you ever want to laugh for a few minutes, yet simultaneously feel sorry for fellow humans, find out where these “MGTOW’s” congregate (on the rare instance they leave their mothers’ basements) and just observe them for a few minutes. You’ll very quickly start to understand why they avoid females, and why that’s probably a good thing for humanity in general. Lol!!!

          • smartacus

            NOPE, you are petrified of the truth and it’s way too painful for you, since you have nothing to counter with; you throw every possible ad hominem and nothing sticks 🙂 not lesbian, not gay, not in mom’s basement, aaand certainly not as laughable or full of pathos as married men 😀

            Last I checked Newton, Tesla, both Wright Brothers, and DaVinci never married. I bet you feel like a bigger winner than those ‘basement dwellers” 🙂

          • smartacus

            men who never marry live the longest, but they lump unmarried together with divorced to make it look like married men live longest.
            This site won’t allow me to post links but go to psychologytoday; “no-getting-married-does-not-make-you-live-longer”

            *Mark Twain said there are 3 types of lies: lies, DAMN LIES, aaand statistics.

            The only people who benefit from men getting married are real estate agents selling larger and larger homes than in the past, the divorce lawyers, and the psychologists and therapists for divorced / separated men. It’s a huge lie and it’s designed to be bad for you.

          • smartacus

            Speaking of Newton; you know his story right? Cambridge was shut down for a while because of the plague. That’s when he found time to think outside the box, that’s when he came up with calculus, that’s when his mind was allowed to run wild… Thank The Lord he didn’t have a wife to shunt some of his thinking faculties to.

    • Or a better wife…

      • smartacus

        there is no better wife… except maybe a robot.

    • smartacus

      Alex, you are doing so much better off by staying single.
      For the love of God, please I’m begging you
      NEVER GET MARRIED AND TELL EVERY OTHER MAN YOU KNOW NEVER GET MARRIED!

      • Sicklesteel

        …ahhh…what?
        I thought Alex had a wife and children?!!! At least he did filming while rolling up on a Border Patrol check point heading inland from a vacation on the Texan coast in a big land yacht a while back. He spoke in terms of his wife and children on board at that time and I assumed he was married.

        So is he “NOT” married with children? Please clarify if you can….

        • I have never made such a video. I am 26, single, and have no children (well, that I know about).

          • Sicklesteel

            Alex C….please disregard my comment above as it wasn’t addressed at you …..but you have the same first name as who it was directed to……had a giant brain fart when I was typing it and hung it under the wrong comment ….in a hurry …..didn’t edit it well enough…sorry ….chuckling….with all due respect to you my man…..no offense intended.

      • dickG

        Why do you think they are called “Woe Men”?
        .
        It must have been some kind of twisted warning from antiquity.
        .

        • smartacus

          yup

      • Hyok Kim

        I’ve met 5 guys in my life who told me getting married was the biggest mistake of their life. I have yet to meet one who said getting married was the best thing he has done in his life, and have met some happily married couples.

  • Muri

    Poor fella. But honestly, I prefer to see these firearms sold to other collectors or enthusiasts rather than see them destroyed. I can’t see the point in some people’s minds to hand over all such stuff to the authorities…

  • Ross

    Its pretty simple you sell all the guns and just say you spent it on drugs. Its a affirmative defense

    • iksnilol

      How does that work from a legal perspective?

      • Ross

        Well the judge can’t make you come up with what you don’t have…

        • iksnilol

          It just sounds like a weak defense: “Sorry, can’t pay you what I owe you because I spent it all on drugs and had *the* craziest party.”

          Going to ask a lawyer friend of mine about this.

          • Ross

            Friend saw this in a book and used it in court… YMMV

  • USMC03Vet

    What a crime against humanity.

  • BearSlayer338

    This among many other reasons is why a smart individual will only get married with a prenup.

    • Billy

      Judges can void a prenup for any reason. The way to win is to not play the game.

      • smartacus

        exactly! tell every man you know to NEVER GET MARRIED!!! EVER!

      • iksnilol

        Or, just hear me out: Murder. Can’t take half your stuff if she’s dead, right?

        /sarc, please don’t shoot my dog.

      • The Brigadier

        A prenup is a contract and judges cannot negate them willy nilly. Contracts have to provide something to the wife and somewhere around ten to fifteen percent to the spouse is considered fair for services rendered.

        • Hyok Kim

          Just have open marriage or better yet have a mistress with no petty sexual jealousy understanding. Don’t get her pregnant.

          • The Brigadier

            Good luck. Jealousy is all women’s middle name unless the are mentally twisted and do you really want to hook up with a cuckoo?

          • Hyok Kim

            I think you’re talking about some American women form mid-west. Just go to some amatuer porn sites, and you tell me if the jealousy is their middle name.

    • Kirk Newsted

      Prenup is one part. The other part is a rock-solid trust with all your stuff in it so that there is nothing she can claim.

      • The Brigadier

        Everything acquired after marriage is fair game for division however. Express trusts or no.

        • Kirk Newsted

          Not what my lawyer says. “Rock solid” is the key, ya gotta do it right.

    • smartacus

      I used to think that till I learned the scary reality that divorce judges routinely toss the pre-nup right out the window :*(

      • BearSlayer338

        If that is true,then maybe its best to avoid marriage all together.

        • smartacus

          I agree with you, the cost/benefit analysis for marriage is just not favorable.

  • tony

    Get some contractor from south america, and there will be no divorce

    • iksnilol

      Why get contractor? Do it yourself. Murder is a personal thing and it is stupid to subcontract it.

      • MR

        Whoa, whoa, whoa… Nobody said anything about murder.

        😉

        • iksnilol

          You are right, the preferred term is “pro-active self defense”.

  • C.

    Prenup or boating accident…

    • Matt Shermer

      This was no boating accident!

      Yeah your right, I just fed her to sharks…

  • SD3

    Oh my Lord, I am so sorry. That’s the worst thing I’ve heard all week.

    And the marriage, too.

  • Grindstone50k

    I feel bad to see a collection split up, but I don’t feel bad for the rich boy marrying a gold digger. I mean, who the hell has 14 SKSes??

    That said, I wonder if JM Davis museum would take some?

  • تنتهك نفسك

    I have heard getting a gun/nfa trust and listing everything as being owned by the trust would protect you from something like this. Is that true?

    • billyoblivion

      Probably not. Judges in family/divorce court have very few limits.

    • Doug

      No. That makes for great “gun world folklore”, but alas, that ain’t how it works. And judges tend to get peeved when someone thinks they’re being “clever” by trying to legally hide or protect assets.

      When you get divorced everything is up for grabs. Everything. There is no bulletproof legal way to hide or protect assets.

    • HSR47

      Potentially. It largely depends who the beneficiary of the trust is.

      The simple answer is that if your wife/children/etc. aren’t listed as beneficiaries of the trust, then the sale of the assets held in the trust will not result in more money for them.

  • One word. “Lost in the fire”

    • iksnilol

      I think they would find her body eventually.

  • Jim_Macklin

    Going out of business sale, close out. Open a pawn shop and do a reality show for CMT.

  • Nashvone

    With the scarcity of 22 ammo, a bunch of those are not much more than paperweights.

    • MrApple

      I picked up 650 rounds of Federal AutoMatch just this morning.

  • Oldtrader3

    When I got divorced, I moved to California before the divorce was filed and took my guns and coin collection with me!

  • jay

    Note to self..prenup or no matrimony. I can only imagine the dizzying levels of glee and pleasure the soon to be ex-missus is having knowing he has to liquidate his collection. Likely one of the few pleasures he had..the nubile coed that is likely the source of all this ruckus notwithstanding..

    Who knows, one might hope that he may not miss the collection so long as he is able to keep a number of notable and cherished pieces. I can only hope that admittedly.. else I feel for him.. likely decades of collecting converted into depreciated greenbacks and handed off to a women that might wish for his early demise..

    They say there are over 300-million firearms in private hands in ‘murica..well..here we found 1% of em.. (3-mil?)..

  • Bob

    “Ya see judge, I was out on the lake and this big wave came up

  • Billy

    MGTOW FOR LIFE. Don’t be dumb and get married

    Seriously tho, it’s cuz of stuff like this that misogyny exists.

    • smartacus

      AMEN BROTHER!!! MGTOW FOR LIFE!!!
      men can live longer if they go to youtube and watch
      barbar, johntheother, sandman, neo unplugged, truth over everything, sane madman103, raging golden eagle, mayor of mgtown, ayam sirias, and Turd Flinging Monkey!!!

      • Billy

        #killallwomen

        • smartacus

          LOL, them feministas already got #killallmen.
          *ironically; women are on the verge of going extinct. Once the ARTIFICIAL WOMB is created; we won’t need them. We already have incubators for premature babies, we already got baby formula to replace breast milk.
          We can already make carbon copies of ourselves with our own DNA instead of a half-baked version of us diluted down with her genes

  • Billy

    Why get married? Seriously.

    • smartacus

      you are correct! Marriage is dying for a reason.

      • Random Disabled Person

        Because of stupid laws about visiting people in the hospital for immediate family, and who can make medical decisions….. let alone if things go sideways because you screw up on some bureaucratic forms…..

        As one friend found when their partner screwed up on declaring their guns when leaving a country( fully legally and right coming in), that because they weren’t legally a “married” couple both they were screwed. back history, both had previous marriages and divorces. They were who needs that again attitude, lets go spend that money on the house, bikes, shooting sports(both), vacations etc instead….But that paperwork and ceremonial legal crap cost her being able to contact him and find out what was going on while he was held(released after a couple stressful hell weeks after things were cleared up). She was a hemisphere away and learning what the system can do to screw you.

        Families can also block your Significant Other from visiting you in the hospital if they don’t like them….. So it is marriage with prenups or a bunch of legal power of attorney, health care proxy, yadda yadda yadda so the court systems gets its money one way or they other. Only the lawyers win court no matter the case….

        • smartacus

          The State ALWAYS sides with the wife in divorce,
          ergo the marriage contract is not between a man and a woman, but a man and the State (with the woman representing the power of The State)

          • Random Disabled Person

            Not true, I know several fathers who have the kids and are doing a great job because the moms were self absorbed f’ ups. A lot of this has to do with who has the best attorney and what the grounds for divorce are.

            The courts have come a long way with that the wife can work and support herself, that they kids can have split living arrangements or the father gets custody and even child support.

            There are even plenty of cases of husbands getting alimony and child support ( which means primary custody) because they gave up their careers to stay home and raise the children. Which ironically society tends to look down upon them. When being a stay at home dad is a gift, although lonely for less people to socialize with. Even if you want to choke the brats somedays. The phase “I wouldn’t give you a nickle for another one but wouldn’t take a milllion bucks for one of mine” often applies especially during those teen years.

            Do we have a long way to go for full equality? Yes but that doesn’t mean the state always sides with the wife in divorce. In fact the courts can be very harsh on ether party.

          • smartacus

            Not true. At least 90% of all custodies (that are not “joint custodies” ) are awarded to the wife. The woman has to be very very bad before they give the kid to the father over the mother.
            This despite evidence indicating mothers/not fathers are more violent to their children, more likely to rape their children (including with objects), more likely to murder their children Heck; even when they do those things, not only do they get acquitted more often, they get lighter sentences than men when they don’t. Oh aaand mothers are more likely to verbally abuse their children.
            There are no plenty of cases of husbands getting alimony and child support; only a few cases. I do agree, yes, society looks down upon the stay-at-home dads because they are supposed to be the disposable working drone.
            Yes we do have a long way to go for full equality because to quote Thomas Sowell: When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment feels like discrimination. Alas equality will never happen because 54% of the voters are women and women think collectively, unlike men who think cooperatively.

    • lbeacham

      Ever heard of the “family”. Marriage is at the center. No families, no life…..Not one of value anyway. Get some religion to go with the guns.

      • iksnilol

        You can have a familiy without marriage. Religion just poisons the mind. Makes you susceptible.

  • SteaGT

    Let me just say I totally get it. I really do. If I were a man, I wouldn’t marry. I just flat out wouldn’t. I couldn’t trust many of my female friends as far as I could throw them, so I definitely wouldn’t marry one. That being said, if my future husband (god forbid) got my guns, well, Judge or not — wouldn’t happen. Take my cars, take my house, take my eyesight, but no man is taking my guns in a divorce. Or my dog. So it goes both ways. It’s all material, anyway. You can’t take it with you when you die. BUT, I can be buried with my arsenal. Take that, future ex-husband! -@StefaGT

  • Anonymous

    Thing is that it’s still a crapshoot because you don’t know that person 100% or how they will be 5+ years from now.

    • cawpin

      That’s why you don’t get married like an idiot, as he said. You get to know the person first. When you find the one, there is no question.

      • smartacus

        Even if you know the female for 40 years; it’s still Russian Roulette with 6 rounds in the chamber.

        • cawpin

          You can only have one round in a chamber.

          • smartacus

            OK OK I left off the last “s” for savings 🙂

          • MR

            Couldn’t afford the last “s” after the divorce.

          • iksnilol

            I don’t know, you could try using .38 specials and shove them in real good.

      • Sicklesteel

        …well cawpin…..did it that way the second time.

        Had a wonderful son out of the arrangement, we both got far ahead in life as a team and are fairly comfortable going into retirement and loved each other for a lot of years but now we are divorced. Both decided it was over and to walk away with out nasty fights and legal brawls. We sat down and divided it all up one afternoon in 2001. Split RE holdings, financial investments and collections. We made verbal arrangements and agreements still in effect almost 15 years later and are friendly toward one another these days and with our son, show up at family events and have a good time.
        Not all end in a nasty brawl and wanted to say that here.

        • iksnilol

          Yup, some people divorce like Yugoslavia while others do it like Czechoslovakia.

        • jcitizen

          That is because both of your are smart. Most aren’t

        • RICH

          AMEN Brother. My first wife and I actually got along better after we were divorced. I will be the first to admit getting married at a young age, I was 21, is a mistake ! My current marriage has been lasted 28 years…… but if things change it can end quickly ! ! There’s not too much anymore that lasts forever. Only HORSESHOES & HAND GRENADES….. ! ! !

          • Sicklesteel

            …and hard core old dogs with the battle scars to prove it. They don’t award Purple Hearts for wounds suffered in marriage battle…..LOL! …chuckling here as I type ………

            Talking about your first marriage reminded me of mine. I too have been married twice and have learned my lesson and do not need remedial training or having that experience again in my time remaining.

            Mine was short and sweet as well. No, actually, it was quite bitter in reality ….for 18 months.

            I was 25 starting my Jr. year in college and had been in the real world for the better part of 7 years including my early years of experience with death and destruction when we met. She was an 18 or so high school honors exchange student just returning from her senior year in Germany. Always was attracted to the brains first. We were both good students and I thought we got along great. So much for brain power in the little head at 25.

            We never were on the same page looking back on it.

            A lot of us in our early 20’s in those days wanted to get on with life and live it and make up for lost time in the military. Those guys that got a big old whiff of carnage up close and personal. Distractions like those resulted in some of us repenting for decisions we made in haste.

            It was a sign of those times.

            I’ve found in my life that it is always interesting at the least….just saying….

      • darthcoder

        yah, if only life worked like that…. and people NEVER change…

    • smartacus

      Even 40 years later; it’s still a crapshoot. Not like Russian Roulette with one empty chamber, but no empty chambers and one weak primer 🙂

  • brainy37

    Asking for a prenuptial agreement concerning your gun collection shouldn’t be an issue in this day and age. If they don’t agree on it then that’s a red flag.

  • Jason Bourne

    No wonder he is getting a divorce!! I don’t think he invested any money in his wife… Maybe if he spread the love around??? I don’t know just thinking…

    • smartacus

      I guarantee the wife wasn’t investing any money in her husband either.

  • MrApple

    All those firearms and only ONE Glock? Sad, very sad.

    • iksnilol

      One Glock too much IMO.

      Glocks are the plague of weapons.

      • MrApple

        You can never have TOO MANY Glocks.

        • iksnilol

          Yes, yes you can. Tactical Tupperware is no good IMO.

          • MrApple

            If you want PRETTY then no but if you want LIFE SAVING then yes, 100% yes.

          • iksnilol

            Pretty has nothing to do with it. I could point shoot a Hi-Point blind better than a Glock.

            My disdain towards Glocks has nothing to do with looks (I find them kinda good looking). I just find them overpriced for what you get. For the price of a brand new Glock 19 or 17 I can get a Grand Power (with threaded barrel and factory suppressor) + have a 1k NOK to spare (that’s 136 USD). For the price of one Glock 19 or 17 I can get a CZ 75 SP 01 Phantom (that’s the polymer version BTW).

            So in short: I can get pistols that are more accurate, more comfortable, safer and of course more reliable for the same money.

          • MrApple

            “Safer”? I love when people mention to supposed unsafe nature of Glocks. Pull the trigger and SURPRISE the firearm goes off.

            You buy what you want and avoid Glock. Just means more Glocks for me.

          • mosinman

            and you can keep em

          • iksnilol

            Problem is, you don’t need to pull the trigger to shoot with a Glock. Stuff can snag onto the trigger and ruin your day.

            They don’t call it “Glock leg” for no reason.

        • smartacus

          amen, I got em in 357Sig, 10mm, 45ACP, 45 GAP
          All with extended ported wolf barrels, trigger jobs, non-Korean hi-caps, grip sleeves, tritium sights, a couple of 40 barrels, and even a 50GI slide/mag

          • MrApple

            I stick mainly to 9mm but enjoy the occasional 45ACP and .40S&W when 9mm ammo is low. I try to stick to basically stock.
            The only other changes done include:
            1. Quality night sights (Trijicon HD sights for me.)
            2. Vickers Tactical slide stop/release (Nice but a luxury.)
            3. Vickers Tactical extended magazine release
            4. Smooth face Glock factory trigger
            5. 3.5# connector

          • smartacus

            oh yeah, I can’t imagine living without extended slide stop/releases and 3.5# connectors 🙂

          • MrApple

            I could live without the extended slide stop/release but the 3.5# connector just makes a great gun that much better.

  • smartacus

    Nope; getting married IS the problem. marriage is not between man and woman but man and state, with woman having the full power and authority of The State over your money and belongings.

    • Hyok Kim

      Sounds like you want different kind of marriage.

      • smartacus

        How can you not?

        • Hyok Kim

          Maybe you want to move to Afghanistan or San Francisco.or maybe just Mexico is good enough for ya?

          • smartacus

            you keep bringing up San Francisco. i don’t want to know what is in your heart. But within 10 years; you will be BEGGING to move to Afghanistan or Mexico.

  • Leigh Rich

    I’ve got more guns than that.

  • daniel

    Never get married folks. It’s an outdated institution and only ends in misery these days.

    • smartacus

      Amen. it’s outdated and yes it only ends in misery.
      It’s not even about women, it’s a contract with The State.
      I’ve read reports Millennials are avoiding marriage.
      The institution of marriage is not gonna survive into the next century.

      • Hyok Kim

        Marriage originally about love. It was about producing children for future economic and physical security. Wife was a valuable tool.

        Nowadays, with all these retirement programs, and police protection, marriage is obsolete, actually has been from the early 20th century.

        Women are not to blame for the failure of marriage.

        • smartacus

          80% of divorces are initiated by women.

          • Hyok Kim

            Well, maybe because they found out their husbands are not so faithful? Personally, most men who I know are divorced were asking for it repeatedly over and over again.

          • smartacus

            nope. even though 50-60% of wives cheat on their husbands; infidelity is only 17% of divorces.
            80% of divorces are initiated by females and for reasons other than infidelity.

  • hunkahunka

    Wow!! He made that kind of an investment in weaponry and made no or little investment in his mate? Maybe a few diamonds rings, or gold ear bobs, or silver chains & bracelets might have insured his weapons investments. Or as others in these comments state, stay single and either be satisfied with a little strange every now and again or simply pay for it outright.

  • MR

    Why are divorces so expensive? Because they’re worth it!

  • scaatylobo

    Been married three times,still with the third [ and will stay that way ].
    But I made sure that my guns ,STAYED that way prior to the 2 divorces.
    Most were owned prior to the big ‘D’s and those that were not ,NEVER saw light until they left the safe after the papers were done.
    OBVIOUS that would not fly in this case = and I envy the man that accumulated such a great collection,BUT to lose it all ?.
    Hope he can bid or buy back at least half of them [ this is an auction ].
    Dont take a rocket scientist to see that a few of his friends could ‘bid’ on his collection and allow him to buy them back —- NO ?.

  • n0truscotsman

    Jesus christ, some of you are horrible with your generalizations and cynicism. With an outlook like what ive seen here, misery must love company.

    • iksnilol

      So I am not being strange/unusual for finding all the woman hate weird? Phew.

      • janklow

        no. it’s also weird when people seem to feel the need to repetitively spam MRA commentary on EVERY comment

  • RPK

    IT IS CHEAPER…TO KEEP HER!!!

  • smartacus

    Yes marriage has been around since 2350 BC in Mesopotamia.
    But The State siding with wives at the expense of husbands like this, is a phenomenon in recent decades that is successfully destroying marriage. And it can never be undone because women make up the majority of voters. it’s just basic math. No politicians can ever advocate for Family Court Reform.
    I quote Thomas Sowell:
    When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment feels like discrimination.
    -That’s why Millennials are avoiding marriage like the Toyota Camry.

  • jcitizen

    Whoa!! Normally I’d say keep half of them and make a deal on the other half, but there are too many. No getting a loan like that! If it was me, I’d plead with the judge to let me keep them and give up the entire rest of my belongings; as long as I could afford temporary storage! Although I always say, you can never have enough guns, I must say I’ll never have that many! My vault is already bulging at the sides!

    • Doug

      But here’s the thing…this gun collection probably represents 90% of this guy’s net worth. I doubt this guy is “rich”. Rich guys tend to own nice guns. This guy has a lot of cheap guns. He probably spent every spare dollar he had over the last 30 years buying whatever was currently cheap and available. That will get you to 200+ guns without being a tycoon. In fact, that’s probably the precise reason he has to sell them…he doesn’t HAVE any other assets. I’d almost bet money on it.

      • Paul White

        Hell, it wouldn’t shock me if that’s part of why they’re divorcing. She’s tired of him blowing tons of cash on crappy guns he’s already got tons of

      • jcitizen

        That’s how I got it figured. She’s not doing her children any good by this, and as an example – I had a friend who spent his life collecting hundreds of guns when the prices were right. When he passed away, his heirs became millionaires! He didn’t have a huge estate, otherwise, as he was a poor teacher. I sometimes think states should require a disinterested negotiator in these separations, or appoint an independent arbitrator with binding results. It isn’t fair to marry just so you can steal another person’s life away like that. That is like enforcing the worst form of slavery or prostitution on either partner. It is flat disgusting!

  • Doug

    Now we know where all the .22 ammo went!!! 😉

  • Paul White

    What the hell is with the comments section? Talk about delusional bitterness. Just because some of ya’ll can’t make good choices in partners doesn’t mean a fair number of us can’t.

    Also…man, wonder if she’s divorcing him because he spends too much on frivolous stuff (guns in this case)? I saw that happen with a coworker; her husband was spending about 2/3rds of his take home pay on guns and ammo for a good 2 years and she had enough. It hadn’t reached this size of a collection though.

    • Doug

      Well said, Paul. Obviously there are a lot of bitter guys here who think that because THEIR marriage sucked, everyone else’s must too. It’s so delusional and immature, it’s almost funny.

      And I agree…while some here assume this guy must be rich, I’d bet a dollar he isn’t. Rather, he probably has no other assets owing to having spent every disposable dollar (and perhaps more) on unnecessary gun stuff. I know guys like this. They think “If one cheap gun is good, five must be better.” They’re “gun rich, cash and savings poor.” If this dude was rich I doubt the court would have ordered him to liquidate his ENTIRE collection. It’s likely being liquidated because these guns are the only thing of value he owns. There’s “being interested in guns”, and “being obsessed with guns”. Maybe this dude is the latter, and his wife got understandably tired of it. Unlike most here, I’m not going to automatically assume she’s the problem with the relationship. Plenty of men are horrible husbands, too.

  • smartacus

    Your marriage is not a contract with a woman, but with a woman and The State. There exists no benefit for you the man.
    -No guarantee of her fidelity, no guarantee the child will be yours, no guarantee she won’t leave you, no guarantee she won’t abandon your child, no guarantee of access to her hole, no guarantee she won’t bankrupt you, etc.
    -But she is guaranteed you will not leave her child (regardless of whether it’s yours or not), you will be loyalty, you will show utter fidelity, you are financial responsible to her and her child (again; regardless of whether it’s your kid or not), and they’re ALL GUARANTEED TO HER UNDER PENALTY OF JAIL AND/OR CONFISCATION AND/OR WAGE GARNISHMENT UPON YOU!

    • smartacus

      PS.
      according to the CDC; 80% of all suicides are male victims, not females 🙁
      according to AFSP; White Males accounted for 70% of ALL SUICIDES in 2013.
      FOR THE LOVE OF GOD; DON’T BECOME A STATISTIC!!!

  • dickG

    And millions of us fall for it every year, year in and year out since the existence of the human race (or there abouts) !
    .
    Such a tragedy. Such a travesty. Such injustice!
    ..

  • Dark Shroud

    If you love something put it in a trust. Your Home/land and your Firearms are a good starting point.

  • Bro

    I’ll be a buddy and buy each for $1 and sell them back after the dust settles for $1 each.

  • insertjjs

    In the Rifle rack picture, what is the 3rd rifle from the right(between the SKS rifles)?
    It looks like it is a 223 but I don’t recognize it.

  • Lockmazter

    They should do the right thing and stay together for the M1 Carbines!

  • BryanS

    I dont know the specifics, but in some cases, I have no idea why a person is supposed to give up half of their property and support another able bodied adult human being. Supporting kids, yes, I understand that.

    Supporting a grown human being… nope. If she bought it, its hers. If he bought it, its his. Pretty easy to me.

  • The Brigadier

    Is that his gun list or is it from one his local National Guard Armory? I think the guy is more than just a bit obsessed. Selling them all is probably for the best. Then he can go out with his half of the money and get modern replacements. In smaller quantities for Heaven’s sake.

    • Timothy G. Yan

      I hope the replacement is younger and better looking.

  • smartacus

    I’m glad it worked out for you 🙂
    and you’re exactly right; don’t screw around with another chick. your fidelity is guaranteed to her by the marriage. (her fidelity to you is not guaranteed by the marriage and even an open cheating relationship will still award her the kids. Oh yes I’ve seen a few, one just last year)
    How about the marriage terms, in sickness or in health and till death do us part? Remember why Robin Williams wife divorced him and drove him to suicide? She said he broke her trust when he relapsed into alcoholism. Alcoholism is a disease. it is even recognized as a disease. That’s like getting angry at your husband for relapsing into cancer!

  • iksnilol
    • The Brigadier

      The date for the Omo remains have not been settled. That initial date too is based on tool dating that were probably left by Erectus who had inhabited the site for a very long, long time.

  • smartacus

    that’s a fallacy. 4x more males than females attempt and complete suicide.

    Males prefer asphyxiation, shooting, jumping, bleeding, self-immolation, etc Females overwhelmingly prefer overdosing, even simple overdosing.
    Even if the methods were equal, more females attempt “suicide” for attention rather than intention. Overdosing is only the most survivable method that sometimes takes hours to do any lasting damage at all; by which time they are already in the hospital getting treated.

    We can’t believe females are just not as smart as males when it comes to successfully killing themselves. Not when they are already proven to clearly be the more successful gender at killing their children than males.

  • smartacus

    that’s true, completed suicides should also be included into the attempted suicides list because the attempt occurred. Yeah it’s general knowledge now about down the road vs crossing the street. That’s a good point about multiple attempted suicides. Usually males are more likely to go through one attempted and completed instead of multiple “cries for attention”.
    OK you’re right. back to topic: Even back in WW2 (and Korea), a wife’s nature was what it was. Nobody talks about the Allotment Wives. They would marry multiple servicemen. Servicemen got $15/month and the wife at home got half of it. So with multiple husbands , these bigamists would actually rake in more per month just sitting on their butts than the servicemen spending Christmas in the trenches. Kinda embarrassing when you’re dying and giving your wife picture to your buddy and he shows you a picture of his wife identical to your wife 🙂

  • smartacus

    Wifey nature has not changed over the years. Ever heard of the “allotment wives” of WW2? no; of course not. Servicemen got $15/month and half went to their wives. So bigamist wives would marry multiple servicemen and collect more money per month doing nothing in total safety than their hapless harem husbands spending Christmas in the trenches. Kinda embarrassing when you are dying and give your buddy a picture of your wife and he shows you a picture of his identical wife! doh!

  • Anon. E Maus

    Remember kids, say NO to marriage.

  • Hyok Kim

    Well, I hope he got what he waned while it lasted, and hope it was worth it.