Gun Review: Remington R25 Gen II

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During our time at The Remington Tactical event at Gunsite we had one new hunting rifle, which is unusual at this kind of  seminar.  It is the R25 GII in .308 Win. The rifle is based on the DPMS Gen II .308 I liked so much in the past. The first thing that gets your attention right off is its 7-pound weight. That’s impressive for a .308 hunting rifle. How did they get the weight down? The design uses a carbon fiber forend along with the reduced sized Gen II DPMS receiver.

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Stats:

• 20” stainless steel, Teflon coated barrel, target crown muzzle.
• Fixed, lightweight stock with super-cell recoil pad.
• Hogue pistol grip.
• Carbon fiber vented free float hand-guard.
• Two stage match trigger.
• Mossy Oak Infinity camouflage.

As opposed to the existing R25

• More than 1lb Lighter. 7.62lbs due to GII receivers, bolt carrier, stock, and carbon fiber FF tube.
• More reliable due to GII technology
•Fully functional forward assist
• Steel feed-ramp for feeding soft nose hunting ammo
• Elastomer extractor spring, improved extractor, and dual ejectors, getting your second shot off faster
every time.

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This is one of the rifles we tested on our first day, which I might mention was one wet and cold day. Come to think of it not unlike many Midwest Deer season days. This rifle had been shot a good deal without cleaning and I didn’t lube it throughout my shooting time. There were no malfunctions of any kind. My groups averaged right at 2 inches at 200 yards.

The match trigger was very nice. I didn’t have a trigger pull gauge but I’d say around 3 pounds tops. It’s certainly a good-looking rifle with nice balance. The caliber selection, which includes .308 Win, .243 Win. and 7mm-08, covers most any game in north America. There is also going to be a “bullet button” version chambered in .308, for those of you living in States that require such devices. Overall it is a very desirable rifle. The Price to be announced.

This is how water ends up in the action. Rules are rules!

This is how water ends up in the action. Rules are rules!

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Just as a side note we had one other rifle of the tactical variety which is loosely based on the R25. It was not ready to be shot so all we got to do was look at it. It does have a carbon fiber forend as well as the other enhancements to make it a light .308. It has a B5 stock and Hogue grip. It also uses a fluted barrel for weight reduction.

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Phil White

Retired police officer with 30 years of service. Firearms instructor and SRU team member. I still instruct with local agencies. My daily carry pistol is the tried and true 1911. I’m the Associate Editor and moderator at TFB. I really enjoy answering readers questions and comments. We can all learn from each other about our favorite hobby!


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  • gunslinger

    semi-auto hunting rifle? what’s that?

  • JumpIf NotZero

    I really like the idea of the GenII stuff being more appropriately designed than just a uniform scaled up AR15. A lot of things on AR10 like the carrier always seemed to big for no reason to me. But I guess I haven’t seen any actual accuracy tests on them yet,

    • Nicks87

      I have a DPMS recon Gen 2. They are very accurate. I went head to head with a buddy of mine that has an LaRue OBR and you couldnt tell who shot what groups. The DPMS is definately on par with other high end 308 AR rifles.

      • TreizFaction

        man if Larue starts using this standard O_O
        I gotta go sell a kidney, see you guys later

      • I agree Nicks. They really got this right. I plan on buying the same rifle you have. After shooting it and seeing how accurate it is I was sold.

      • JumpIf NotZero

        I’ll have to try one out to see how they are. The AR-10’s I used have had issues unlocking way early, and more so suppressed. Follow-Through has been an issue for long range shooting.

        With the reduced mass in the system, it should need a lot less gas to run.

        Does the GenII use a standard sized carbine buffer or that DPMS stubby style? … Nevermind, looked it up, appears to be the stubby style, that’s too bad. Well, could always put a Vltor A5 tube on it and use a standard buffer.

  • Don Ward

    You know how I got the weight of my hunting rifles down? By being a bolt/lever actions.

    • Andrew Hobby

      Bahh! You kids and your boogie-woogie bolt actions! Percussion caps for this old timer.

      *sits back down and plays the jug*

      • Anonymoose

        Flintlock is best lock. *tries to pay taxes with jugs*

        • TreizFaction

          yer fantcy boom sticks got nuttin on muh bow’n’arruh
          *snoring*

          • andrey kireev

            what this ?… me use sharp stick ! *walks back into a cave*

          • iksnilol

            Y’all and your fancy-schmancy technology. I just prefer to run after the animal until it dies from exhaustion.

          • TheSmellofNapalm

            NYET! Rifle is fine!

    • You need to oil that rocking chair:-)

  • Andrew Hobby

    What changes did they make in the receiver to get the weight down?

    And I noticed it said the forward assist is now “fully functional” – did Gen1 not have a FA?

  • blackspike2710

    $?

  • I didn’t forget it hasn’t been announced

  • They really are easy to get. You may have to order one but these days it doesn’t take long.

    • Zachary marrs

      Tell that to PSA

  • It’s Remington Outdoors. The Freedom Group name has been gone almost a year now.

  • You’ll most likely see a Mossy Oak.

  • Adam aka eddie d.

    This looks like a really neat rifle!

    I like the simple, light, streamlined stock and the camo.
    I know this gun is primarily marketed to hunters, but a threaded muzzle
    should be standard on this gun IMO.
    It could double as a precision .308 too, based on the things I read about the out of the box accuracy of these G2 guns.
    Also, quite a lot of hunters use suppressors nowadays.

    The non-barrel shaped (if this is a word) carbon fibre handguard is a nice addition too.
    Phil, is this an M-LOK hg. or your regular screw type?
    From the pictures it looks like a regular one.

    I’m not too familiar with the in-depth specs of these G2s, only read a few short reviews yet.
    Are the charging handles and the barrels proprietary too?

  • noob

    how durable are teflon coated bores? does the coating scrub off eventually?

  • The Real Teal’c

    Got a link on the new long-range PMAGs?

    • Beaumont

      Yeah, I’ve been hoping for “long-range mags” too. Inquiring minds want to know!

  • Sure it’s tough material. It’s becoming more and more common not only because it’s tough but lightens a rifle a good deal.

  • Not really. I imagine it depends on the loads used and how hard it’s run.

  • Zachary marrs

    VERY handy

    Though i just use an ar15.

    I did use a friends garand, that was fun

  • Yea that stock is nice and I like the thick recoil pad also.

  • LOL that’s not me:-) Just in the article but hey I stayed dry!

  • Adam aka eddie d.

    Carbon fiber [in polymer resin mixture or laminate] is a lot more stronger than any polymer in itself that is used on firearms.
    That’s the reason they use it on spacecraft, race cars, jet fighters,
    ship masts, downhill bikes and the list goes on.
    It’s a material that has seen decades of high tech industrial use before the firearms industry picked it up. Guns are not rocket science. 🙂

    Anyway, CFRP (carbon fiber reinforced polymer) is a great (only pricey) material,
    whether it comes in a laminate or mixture form.

    If the metal to plastic bearing surfaces are properly reenforced with metal slides
    so other parts won’t rub out the plastic, a carbon fiber-polymer molded gun receiver
    for instance can be every bit as structurally solid and strong as an aluminium one, and even a stamped or milled steel one for that matter.
    Carbon fiber is about 2.5 times stiffer than aluminium in general, and it has a better strength to weight ratio than steel.
    Carbon fiber reenforced polymers are actually great material for small arms design,
    it’s just the quite conservative gun industry haven’t figured out the proper way to use it. Forcing regular “steel and aluminum” thinking in the design procedure doesn’t really work here.
    But there already are quite nice ventures in this field like Windham Weaponry’s CFRP receivers.

  • James Kountz

    “The caliber selection will include 308 win, 243 win and 7mm-08”

    But no 6.5 cred or 260 rem? Why is dpms/remington torturing the 6.5 crowd like this

  • Jay Silla

    The original Armalite AR-10 also weighed about seven pounds. That said, I wouldn’t carry a Remington these days if they were giving them away. Too many quality issues, not only with the Remington brand itself, bad sadly, with Marlin rifles as well. Cereberus is showing itself to be just another corporate vampire.

  • Elastomer extractor springs were tested by the US Army during the 1970s for what became the M231 Firing Port Weapon. Metal extractor springs had a short life in that system. If I’m not mistaken, the IWI Tavor currently uses an elastomer extractor spring.

    • Blake

      Cool, thanks for the interesting datapoint. We need more clue around here 🙂