Ammo Prices: 11/07/2014

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Week 31.

Again .22LR is coming in around $0.10/rd. And I agree with a number of the comments from last week. You can find bricks cheap locally in a lot of places. Which is going to be really important for a review I have coming out in a couple of weeks… It looks like the rest of the calibers are holding pretty well. Nothing exciting in any direction.

We do appreciate the support and constructive comments and will continue this article series as long as it is productive.

As always, if you have comment or witticisms, please leave them below. And if you find that some of the items are now out of stock or the prices have significantly changed, please let the other readers know. Also, if you know of any vendors that are not represented here and you have had a good experience with, comment below and we will see about adding them.

We have included the raw data so you can run your own trends: Weekly Ammo – 20141106


Best Prices

  500 rounds 1000 rounds
.22 LR Munire
$0.10 (ppr)
FG Ammo
$0.11 (ppr)
.223 Rem Ammunitionstore
$0.22 (ppr)
Ammunitionstore
$0.22 (ppr)
.308 Win LAX Ammunition
$0.39 (ppr)
Bang It Ammo
$0.63 (ppr)
.38 Special LAX Ammunition
$0.28 (ppr)
LAX Ammunition
$0.27 (ppr)
.380 ACP LAX Ammunition
$0.30 (ppr)
SGAmmo
$0.28 (ppr)
.40 S&W BulkAmmo
$0.27 (ppr)
AmmoForSale.com
$0.26 (ppr)
.45 ACP Centerfire Systems
$0.28 (ppr)
J&G Sales
$0.32 (ppr)
300 BLK BulkAmmo
$0.56 (ppr)
Tombstone Tactical
$0.75 (ppr)
7.62x39mm Cheaper Than Dirt!
$0.22 (ppr)
Ammo2U
$0.21 (ppr)
9mm Ammunitionstore
$0.19 (ppr)
LAX Ammunition
$0.19 (ppr)

Pistol Ammo

1000 rounds

  .38 Special .380 ACP .40 S&W .45 ACP 9mm
Alamo Ammo N/A N/A N/A $360.00 ($0.36) $259.00 ($0.26)
↑ +0.03
Ammo Fast $349.00 ($0.35) N/A $379.00 ($0.38) $339.00 ($0.34)
↓ -0.025
$249.00 ($0.25)
Ammo.net $315.00 ($0.32) $345.00 ($0.35)
↑ +0.026
N/A $350.00 ($0.35) $235.00 ($0.24)
Ammo2U $317.20 ($0.32)
↓ -0.003
$317.20 ($0.32) N/A $353.00 ($0.35)
↓ -0.015
$238.00 ($0.24)
↓ -0.01
AmmoForSale.com $315.00 ($0.32) $319.00 ($0.32) $260.00 ($0.26) $385.00 ($0.39) $230.00 ($0.23)
Ammoman $355.00 ($0.36)
↓ -0.05
$335.00 ($0.34) $305.00 ($0.31) $379.00 ($0.38) $254.00 ($0.25)
Ammunition To Go $404.95 ($0.40) $359.95 ($0.36) $289.95 ($0.29) $344.95 ($0.34)
↓ -0.004
$234.95 ($0.23)
Ammunitionstore $375.99 ($0.38) $335.99 ($0.34) $445.99 ($0.45)
↓ -0.004
$349.99 ($0.35) $248.99 ($0.25)
BulkAmmo $310.00 ($0.31) $315.00 ($0.32) $285.00 ($0.29) $364.00 ($0.36)
↑ +0.044
$215.00 ($0.22)
Centerfire Systems N/A N/A N/A N/A $199.99 ($0.20)
Classic Firearms N/A N/A N/A $359.00 ($0.36) N/A
Cobra Tactical N/A $296.40 ($0.30) N/A $626.03 ($0.63) N/A
Dunn’s Sporting Goods N/A N/A N/A N/A $239.99 ($0.24)
Freedom Ammunition N/A N/A N/A $355.45 ($0.36) N/A
Freedom Munitions N/A N/A N/A N/A $211.50 ($0.21)
Gilberts Guns N/A N/A N/A N/A $239.00 ($0.24)
J&G Sales N/A $279.90 ($0.28) $289.90 ($0.29) $319.90 ($0.32) $229.90 ($0.23)
↑ +0.03
Joe Bob Outfitters N/A N/A $379.95 ($0.38) N/A N/A
K-Var Corporation N/A $369.99 ($0.37) N/A N/A N/A
LAX Ammunition $268.00 ($0.27) $297.99 ($0.30)
↓ -0.012
$287.00 ($0.29) $355.80 ($0.36) $193.98 ($0.19)
LuckyGunner $315.00 ($0.32) $345.00 ($0.35) $289.00 ($0.29) $354.00 ($0.35)
↓ -0.015
$229.00 ($0.23)
SGAmmo $319.00 ($0.32) $279.00 ($0.28) N/A $359.00 ($0.36) $229.50 ($0.23)
Sunflower Outdoor Sports N/A N/A N/A N/A $235.56 ($0.24)
Surplus Ammo N/A N/A $299.99 ($0.30) $319.99 ($0.32)
↓ -0.035
$229.99 ($0.23)
The Armory $479.76 ($0.48) $294.99 ($0.29) $349.99 ($0.35) $359.99 ($0.36) $249.99 ($0.25)
↓ -0.008
Todays Ammo N/A N/A N/A N/A $489.99 ($0.49)
Wideners N/A N/A N/A N/A $270.00 ($0.27)

500 rounds

  .38 Special .380 ACP .40 S&W .45 ACP 9mm
Alamo Ammo N/A $237.50 ($0.48) $167.50 ($0.34) $197.50 ($0.40) N/A
Ammo Fast N/A N/A $369.00 ($0.74) N/A N/A
Ammo Sale N/A N/A N/A N/A $130.60 ($0.26)
Ammo.net N/A $195.00 ($0.39) N/A $159.00 ($0.32) $119.00 ($0.24)
↓ -0.002
Ammo2U N/A $325.00 ($0.65) $153.50 ($0.31) $170.50 ($0.34)
↑ +0.012
$119.99 ($0.24)
↓ -0.005
AmmoForSale.com $165.00 ($0.33) $235.00 ($0.47) $167.00 ($0.33)
↑ +0.064
$159.00 ($0.32) N/A
Ammoman $205.00 ($0.41) $195.00 ($0.39) $215.00 ($0.43) $185.00 ($0.37) $149.00 ($0.30)
Ammunition To Go N/A $194.95 ($0.39)
↑ +0.13
$260.00 ($0.52) $159.95 ($0.32)
↓ -0.032
$99.95 ($0.20)
↓ -0.05
Ammunitionstore $215.99 ($0.43) $162.99 ($0.33)
↓ -0.146
$228.99 ($0.46) $144.49 ($0.29) $97.00 ($0.19)
Brownells N/A N/A N/A N/A $159.99 ($0.32)
Browning Ammo and More Store $155.00 ($0.31) N/A N/A $180.00 ($0.36) N/A
BulkAmmo $164.00 ($0.33) $194.00 ($0.39) $135.00 ($0.27) $158.00 ($0.32) $109.00 ($0.22)
↓ -0.01
Centerfire Systems N/A N/A N/A $139.99 ($0.28) N/A
Cheaper Than Dirt! N/A N/A N/A $218.96 ($0.44) N/A
Classic Firearms N/A N/A N/A N/A $119.99 ($0.24)
Cobra Tactical N/A N/A N/A N/A $125.40 ($0.25)
Cope’s Distributing N/A N/A N/A $179.99 ($0.36) N/A
Freedom Ammunition N/A N/A $154.50 ($0.31) $177.00 ($0.35) N/A
Freedom Munitions N/A N/A N/A N/A $101.33 ($0.20)
GunBuyer N/A N/A N/A N/A $123.76 ($0.25)
Iron Sights Guns, LLC N/A N/A N/A $235.84 ($0.47) $149.84 ($0.30)
K-Var Corporation N/A N/A N/A $164.99 ($0.33) $169.99 ($0.34)
LAX Ammunition $137.99 ($0.28)
↓ -0.004
$149.99 ($0.30)
↓ -0.01
$144.00 ($0.29) $169.99 ($0.34)
↑ +0.052
$113.99 ($0.23)
LuckyGunner N/A $195.00 ($0.39)
↓ -0.34
$170.00 ($0.34)
↑ +0.022
$159.00 ($0.32)
↓ -0.022
$99.00 ($0.20)
↓ -0.032
Premier Tactical N/A N/A N/A $203.99 ($0.41) $135.99 ($0.27)
S.F. Armory N/A N/A N/A N/A $124.87 ($0.25)
SGAmmo $194.75 ($0.39) N/A N/A $144.90 ($0.29) $97.50 ($0.20)
Surplus Ammo N/A N/A $154.99 ($0.31) $164.99 ($0.33)
↓ -0.03
$118.99 ($0.24)
The Armory N/A N/A N/A $179.99 ($0.36) $118.44 ($0.24)
Todays Ammo N/A N/A $214.99 ($0.43) N/A $164.99 ($0.33)
Ventura Munitions N/A N/A N/A $236.47 ($0.47) N/A
Wholesale Hunter N/A N/A N/A N/A $131.68 ($0.26)
iAmmo N/A N/A N/A $247.61 ($0.50) $138.99 ($0.28)


Rifle Ammo

1000 rounds

  .22 LR .223 Rem .308 Win 300 BLK 7.62x39mm
9mm Ammo N/A $399.94 ($0.40) N/A N/A N/A
AGS Armament N/A $309.95 ($0.31) N/A N/A N/A
Able Ammo N/A $429.99 ($0.43) N/A N/A N/A
Alamo Ammo N/A N/A N/A N/A $232.50 ($0.23)
Ammo Fast N/A $299.00 ($0.30) N/A N/A $249.00 ($0.25)
Ammo.net N/A $265.00 ($0.27)
↓ -0.08
N/A N/A $224.00 ($0.22)
↑ +0.005
Ammo2U N/A $329.90 ($0.33) N/A N/A $209.68 ($0.21)
AmmoForSale.com N/A N/A N/A N/A $230.00 ($0.23)
Ammoman N/A $283.00 ($0.28) $650.00 ($0.65) N/A $234.00 ($0.23)
Ammunition Depot N/A N/A N/A N/A $244.97 ($0.24)
Ammunition To Go N/A $339.95 ($0.34) $1,175.00 ($1.18) $1,250.00 ($1.25) $229.00 ($0.23)
Ammunitionstore N/A $219.99 ($0.22) N/A N/A $209.99 ($0.21)
Bang It Ammo N/A N/A $631.67 ($0.63)
↓ -0.038
N/A N/A
Bud’s Gun Shop N/A N/A N/A N/A $281.00 ($0.28)
BulkAmmo N/A $240.00 ($0.24) $635.00 ($0.64) N/A $215.00 ($0.22)
Bullets.com N/A N/A N/A N/A $325.00 ($0.33)
Cheaper Than Dirt! N/A N/A N/A N/A $215.00 ($0.22)
Classic Firearms N/A N/A N/A N/A $249.99 ($0.25)
Clyde Armory N/A N/A N/A N/A $347.50 ($0.35)
Cobra Tactical N/A $734.46 ($0.73) N/A N/A $291.08 ($0.29)
Cope’s Distributing N/A $249.99 ($0.25) N/A N/A N/A
FG Ammo $113.95 ($0.11)
↓ -0.011
N/A N/A N/A N/A
Great Lakes Shooters Supply N/A $450.00 ($0.45) N/A N/A N/A
Iron Sights Firearms N/A $379.34 ($0.38) N/A N/A N/A
J&G Sales N/A $249.90 ($0.25) N/A N/A $219.90 ($0.22)
↑ +0.02
Joe Bob Outfitters N/A $309.95 ($0.31) N/A N/A N/A
Kentucky Gun Company N/A N/A N/A N/A $239.99 ($0.24)
LAX Ammunition N/A $224.99 ($0.22) N/A N/A N/A
LuckyGunner N/A $229.00 ($0.23) N/A N/A $219.00 ($0.22)
McKay Enterprises, LLC N/A $389.00 ($0.39) N/A N/A N/A
Primary Arms N/A N/A N/A N/A $269.99 ($0.27)
Random Discount ARs N/A N/A N/A N/A $339.99 ($0.34)
SGAmmo N/A $229.90 ($0.23)
↑ +0.005
N/A N/A N/A
Sunflower Outdoor Sports N/A $399.00 ($0.40) N/A N/A N/A
Surplus Ammo N/A N/A $999.99 ($1.00)
↑ +0.27
N/A $229.99 ($0.23)
The Armory N/A $249.99 ($0.25) N/A N/A N/A
Todays Ammo N/A $379.99 ($0.38) N/A N/A N/A
Tombstone Tactical N/A N/A N/A $752.49 ($0.75) $276.95 ($0.28)
Ventura Munitions N/A N/A N/A N/A $232.00 ($0.23)
Vizard’s Guns & Ammo N/A N/A N/A N/A $246.00 ($0.25)
Wideners N/A $295.95 ($0.30) N/A N/A $229.50 ($0.23)
iAmmo N/A N/A N/A N/A $286.59 ($0.29)

500 rounds

  .22 LR .223 Rem .308 Win 300 BLK 7.62x39mm
AGS Armament N/A $129.95 ($0.26) N/A N/A N/A
Able Ammo N/A $165.05 ($0.33) N/A N/A $190.23 ($0.38)
Alamo Ammo N/A $154.95 ($0.31) $343.75 ($0.69) N/A N/A
Ammo Fast $52.00 ($0.10) N/A N/A $494.00 ($0.99) N/A
Ammo Sale N/A $162.35 ($0.32) N/A N/A $147.00 ($0.29)
Ammo.net $70.00 ($0.14)
↓ -0.038
$119.00 ($0.24)
↓ -0.002
$265.00 ($0.53)
↑ +0.05
$350.00 ($0.70) $140.00 ($0.28)
Ammo2U N/A $151.00 ($0.30)
↑ +0.02
$231.00 ($0.46) N/A $145.00 ($0.29)
↑ +0.03
AmmoForSale.com $62.00 ($0.12)
↓ -0.028
$130.00 ($0.26) $240.00 ($0.48) $350.00 ($0.70) $137.00 ($0.27)
Ammoman N/A $125.00 ($0.25) $265.00 ($0.53) N/A $147.00 ($0.29)
Ammunition Depot N/A N/A $324.97 ($0.65) N/A N/A
Ammunition Supply Company N/A $199.95 ($0.40) $299.75 ($0.60) N/A N/A
Ammunition To Go $64.95 ($0.13)
↓ -0.008
$129.95 ($0.26)
↓ -0.05
$249.95 ($0.50)
↓ -0.18
$324.95 ($0.65) $134.95 ($0.27)
Ammunitionstore N/A $110.99 ($0.22)
↓ -0.004
$199.99 ($0.40) N/A N/A
Bang It Ammo $58.99 ($0.12) N/A N/A N/A N/A
Brownells N/A $139.99 ($0.28) N/A N/A N/A
Browning Ammo and More Store $55.00 ($0.11) N/A $357.50 ($0.72) N/A N/A
BulkAmmo $64.75 ($0.13)
↓ -0.009
$119.00 ($0.24)
↑ +0.01
$245.00 ($0.49) $279.00 ($0.56) $129.00 ($0.26)
Bullets.com N/A $169.95 ($0.34) N/A N/A N/A
Cheaper Than Dirt! $79.79 ($0.16) N/A N/A N/A $109.95 ($0.22)
Classic Firearms N/A $129.99 ($0.26) N/A N/A N/A
Cobra Tactical N/A $144.40 ($0.29) $247.00 ($0.49) N/A N/A
Cope’s Distributing N/A $139.99 ($0.28) N/A N/A $127.99 ($0.26)
DSG Arms N/A N/A N/A $625.00 ($1.25) N/A
Eagle Eye Guns LLC N/A N/A $372.45 ($0.74) N/A N/A
FG Ammo $52.25 ($0.10)
↓ -0.009
N/A N/A N/A N/A
Firequest N/A N/A N/A N/A $155.00 ($0.31)
Gilberts Guns $49.95 ($0.10)
↓ -0.08
N/A N/A N/A N/A
Iron Sights Firearms N/A N/A $292.39 ($0.58) N/A N/A
J&G Sales $69.95 ($0.14) N/A $229.95 ($0.46) N/A $129.95 ($0.26)
Joe Bob Outfitters N/A $209.95 ($0.42) N/A N/A N/A
Kentucky Gun Company N/A $179.99 ($0.36) N/A N/A $130.85 ($0.26)
↓ -0.015
LAX Ammunition N/A $125.00 ($0.25) $194.99 ($0.39) $288.00 ($0.58) N/A
LuckyGunner $59.00 ($0.12)
↓ -0.02
$119.00 ($0.24)
↓ -0.002
$250.00 ($0.50)
↑ +0.02
$300.00 ($0.60) $137.00 ($0.27)
McKay Enterprises, LLC N/A $211.00 ($0.42) N/A N/A N/A
Munire $47.48 ($0.09)
↓ -0.002
N/A N/A N/A N/A
North Arkansas Guns $50.00 ($0.10)
↓ -0.02
N/A N/A N/A N/A
Orca Arms $60.00 ($0.12) N/A N/A N/A N/A
Palmetto State Armory N/A N/A N/A N/A $129.99 ($0.26)
Raleigh Tactical Supply N/A N/A $341.43 ($0.68) N/A N/A
Random Discount ARs N/A $151.75 ($0.30) $259.99 ($0.52) N/A $129.79 ($0.26)
SGAmmo N/A $114.75 ($0.23) $224.75 ($0.45) N/A $129.95 ($0.26)
Smokey Mountain Munitions $57.45 ($0.11) N/A N/A N/A N/A
Sunflower Outdoor Sports N/A $246.61 ($0.49) N/A N/A N/A
Surplus Ammo N/A $139.99 ($0.28)
↑ +0.02
$793.13 ($1.59) N/A $119.99 ($0.24)
The Armory N/A $149.99 ($0.30) $434.99 ($0.87) N/A N/A
Tombstone Tactical N/A N/A N/A N/A $164.94 ($0.33)
Ventura Munitions N/A $149.00 ($0.30) N/A N/A N/A
Wholesale Hunter N/A $166.41 ($0.33) N/A N/A $159.47 ($0.32)
Zx Guns N/A N/A N/A N/A $198.76 ($0.40)
iAmmo N/A N/A $285.39 ($0.57) N/A N/A




Tom is a former Navy Corpsman that spent some time bumbling around the deserts of Iraq with a Marine Recon unit, kicking in tent flaps and harassing sheep. Prior to that he was a paramedic somewhere in DFW, also doing some Executive Protection work between shifts. Now that those exciting days are behind him, he has embraced his inner “Warrior Hippie” and assaults 14er in his sandals and beard, or engages in rucking adventure challenges while consuming craft beer. To fund these adventures, he writes medical software and builds websites and mobile apps. His latest venture is as one of the founders of IronSights.com; a search engine for all things gun related. He hopes that his posts will help you find solid gear that will survive whatever you can throw at it–he is known (in certain circles) for his curse…ahem, ability…to find the breaking point of anything.


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  • BattleshipGrey

    Tom, Just letting you know that I’m still watching these posts. I know they don’t get much discussion but it doesn’t mean no one’s watching. Keep up the good work.

    A couple questions if you have the time:
    1) If you can’t use names I understand, but how many of the companies listed have you dealt with personally? Just curious. I like to buy in bulk when possible, but lately we’ve had too many other projects at home to swing it. I’ve only used CTD (before the unpleasantness) and Ultramax to date. I’ve really enjoyed these posts, it’s made “window shopping” much easier.

    2) Do the listed companies contact you with their current lowest listings of each caliber, or do you have to scour the internet and sites yourself?

    • Doc Rader

      1) I personally have bought from 4 of the vendors. I’m about to order some more in the next month to replenish from some of my recent T&E binges. It will likely be from a few different vendors based on cost and availability so I’ll suppliment that following week with my experiences.

      2) I actually scrape most of it. A few vendors send me a weekly spreadsheet with prices which is helpful. What makes it a pain is a number of vendors have listings that are out of stock intermingled with in stock items. So I do have to check (though I am now doing more spot checking now that I have a feel for how some of the vendors list).

      I do have to say, though I am getting a bias towards liking vendors that put an effort into having a clean and easy to use website even though they may not have the cheapest prices. That won’t affect whether or not I list them in this series (unless the site is just too time consuming to navigate). It will likely affect where I spend my dollars though…

      And thank you (and all of the other readers that keep up with this series). It definitely impacts my motivation on Thursday night to assemble this data, and to hear that people appreciate it is nice!

  • JumpIf NotZero

    Ugh… People even paying attention to 22lr… A**holes buying sh*t they don’t need… I haven’t paid attention to 22lr since the “panic” and refuse to. It’s beyond stupid to focus on imo.

    I saw some people at cabelas the other day holding all they could and checking online right there to see what it was going for online. Wanted to punch them.

    So until it’s back to normal, I don’t care even the slightest. Lol @ .10 a round… That’s more than I reload 9mm for.

    • B.

      Well, that’s nice for you, but part of my livelihood depends on .22lr – I teach new shooters the basics of pistol and rifle usage and I use .22lr pistols and rifles to do that with. For shotguns, I use .410.
      .22lr is a lot more forgiving to new shooters to get them used to the things experienced shooters sometimes take for granted – like recoil and noise.
      .22lr is a lot more teaching friendly for all sizes, shapes, and ages of shooters than more expensive, more readily available calibers.
      Because of the drought, classes have been fewer than I’d like, because I have had to turn away some students that didn’t have their own gun to use for class. I like to keep classes fun for student, that way they come out of it with a passion for shooting sports and can work up to different calibers and gauges at their own pace.

      • JumpIf NotZero

        A fair point… But I also teach, and have just moved from 22lr to real calibers because it’s really no different after the first 50 rounds. All 22lr does imo is remove some of the intimidation. But so do revolvers in 38spl and suppressed guns.

        I suppose if my livelyhood depended on having 22lr, I’d have no less than 5000 rounds in storage before any shortage or panic hit.

        I’ve actually found 22lr to be an issue with giving people an unrealistic expectation of how a gun is going to handle. But, I don’t teach very often and when I do, it’s 1:1

        • B.

          I agree – hoarders and especially scalpers are the main problem, but I’ll have to disagree on the use of .22lr as a teaching medium.
          Younger kids – 6-10 years old, benefit greatly from the smaller caliber use for teaching.
          A note on suppressors, as you know they are truly only effective when you use subsonic rounds. .22lr are pretty quite in subsonics anyway without the suppressor.
          I am contemplating dropping my class prices, and just asking people to bring their own. I hate to do that, because some don’t own firearms, and might put them off from seeking instruction.
          Depending on what class I teach, it’s either 1:1, or up to 40:1 (for conceal carry classes).
          I’ll figure something out, and I’ll continue to hold out hope that .22lr becomes more plentiful at the old prices soon. I’ll then prepare for lean times and make sure I have 5-10k for teaching.

    • Zachary marrs

      I never thought id see the day where i shoot more 5.56 and .30-06 than .22lr

  • KAS8208

    I bought a brick of Remington Golden for $.04/round yesterday.

    • Mark N.

      I haven’t even seen a Golden in 2 years, and at that price, I’d buy as much as I could afford. (My rifle really likes them.)

      • I bought two of the 1400 buckets of Golden off a Sheriff last year. $150…

        Knew I was getting reamed, but still wanted to shoot.

  • Cedar_92

    This info is great, thanks for uploading!

  • CANShoot

    Anyone know why there is no .22LR shortage in Canada? Lots on the shelf going for about $20CND for 500rnds.

    • JumpIf NotZero

      There is no “shortage” at all. There are American idiots buying things they don’t need even though it would be impossible to “ban”. Repeat and repeat until everyone is convinced there is a shortage, but it’s entirely self-generated.

      Canadians never saw the “shortage” because there isn’t one. There was never a rush in Canada so it hasn’t been an issue.

      A panic over 22lr…. I just can’t believe people are they dumb.

  • Hey Tom. I want to echo BttleshipGrey, I really like this series of posts, and I have to compliment you for being incredibly thorough! It’s refreshing to get a legit review on something, and have so much info, it’s hard to look at all of it! Thanks for the great posts!

    Nick-
    Wolfarmory.blogspot.com

  • ExplEngineer

    Is there any possibility of adding supplemental calibres to your listing. When training or conducting suitability and performance testing for client agencies we consume fairly voluminous voluminous amounts of 5.57mm for the FN Herstals, and .50BMG & .338WinMag (much cheaper than the Lapua and very much the same performance). Not much trouble with hoarders or speculators in these calibres, our biggest problem is finding distributors, and then trying to weed out a proportion of these distributors who seem to act like speculators in the pricing analytics. Perhaps these calibres seem less commonly used, but in the research conducted, and presently being compiled for publication for our clients we have constructed a “MISSION FIRST” then “FUNCTIONALITY” and FINANCIAL analytics. (MFFFA Analytics) as a working model that can be adjusted to meet the demands of individual law enforcement, military and commercial operations. I am a bit surprised that there isn’t more discussion as to the use of more traditional calibre and ammunition that has been field tested over many years, in many circumstances rather than the “Flavor of the Day Exotics” which in many, if not most cases fail to meet the price:value or rate:reward ratios. Much of the less expensive, and/more practical standard calibre ammunition has been essentially field tested over the long term with positive results. Another question that I rarely see asked of, or by end users is that of whether or not the actual individual to whom the firearm and ammunition will be issued actually shoot well enough to justify the additional cost of single use products. With rare exceptions, few of even the best, and/or largest budget departments deploy shooters who can maintain their technical proficiency to a level that can justify the additional costs of “Designer-Calibre” ammunition. I apologize for my lack of information sufficient to address .22LR ammo as my principle use of it was when I had the kit installed in my Colt Commander.

  • Dragonheart

    From what I understand from a reliable source the shortage of 22 LR is not due to the actual users. At some point everybody that shoots will have several thousand rounds stored and will quit buying. The problem is those that don’t really shoot, but see our economy going downhill and the dollar failing. So they are putting what they perceive as worthless paper into items for barter in a failed economy. Out of all the ammunition out there what would be better for trade than 22 LR? It doesn’t take a lot of people siting on several hundred thousand rounds each to create the shortage we are in. As far as the increase prices that can be attributed to the Scalpers.

    Thanks Tom for all your effort in putting this report together, but being a handloader I quit buying 22 LR when the panic started. As far as a 22 being the best caliber for teaching, I totally agree, and I have been an instructor for almost 50 years. A hand loaded reduced charge will work in a revolver, but not in a semi auto because there has to be enough force to operate the action and at that point you have recoil. Recoil makes it more difficult to learn the basics for a new shooter or old one for that matter.

  • Mike Price

    There were always 22’s for sale in several places, so there was no shortage, just high prices. Everything levels out sooner or later, supply and demand our system at work. I noticed several new imported brands of 22’s once the price went up. Maybe in another few months the market will reverse and 22’s will be dirt cheap like what has happened with the AR’s. I see most caliber’s on the shelf now at slightly high price but it’s all coming down almost daily. I have so many 22’s on hand now (6,000 rounds) I quite buying them when they show up and they are not flying off the shelf near as fast too which indicates most have some. $2.49 a box. Our local Dunham’s and Walmart don’t rip off people like most sellers did, but the small time dealers probably did have to pay more for them. Big box stores are contracted for large quantities. But did the wholesale price go up? I think not. Just people got ripped but they didn’t have to buy them at $90 a brick.

  • Mike Price

    When you see people listing 5,000 round cases or more on gunbroker 6 months ago the “shortage” was over. 16 pages every day of 1,000 to 5,000 or more….no shortage.