MS Clean- the STANAG Mag Cleaning Case (or Kit!)

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Originally pitched on KickStarter, the MS Clean (Magazine Shaped Cleaning Kit) is the first product for MS Clean, LLC. Billing itself as an “Improved cleaning kit case for sportsman and professional use,” the MS Clean is a patented STANAG shaped hard case designed to be easily stored in existing magazine pouches (Author’s note- hopefully away from and not to be confused with your ammo!). It is sized to carry the contents of standard issue cleaning kits and other small accessories. The MS Clean cannot be inserted by accident into a mag well.

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The bare case retails for $20 and MS Clean offers a case with standard 5.56 cleaning accessories (steel sectional rods, brushes, etc.) for $35.00. The first production units have shipped and are now available from Saints Tactical. Peter Palma, a previously deployed Marine and brainchild of the MS Clean explains the concept best himself:

 

On a personal note, it is nice to see my fellow Jarheads getting their brains back after boot camp and finding simple solutions to known problems. I too crushed the CLP bottle in the OTIS soft kits. Now, if there only was a coating or foam on the inside to keep the contents from rattling around during movement…

 



Nathan S.

One of TFB’s resident Jarheads, Nathan now works within the firearms industry. A consecutive Marine rifle and pistol expert, he enjoys local 3-gun, NFA, gunsmithing, MSR’s, & high-speed gear. Nathan has traveled to over 30 countries working with US DoD & foreign MoDs.

Nathan can be reached at Nathan.S@TheFirearmBlog.com

The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization.


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  • Julio

    OK. So you make a magazine-shaped cleaning kit, then take a number of steps to ensure it isn’t confused with a magazine. I’d have thought that step #1 was to not make it magazine-shaped. Problem solved! Or am I missing something?

    • gunslinger

      mag shaped to fit into existing mag holders? that was you can pop it into your range bag and be GtG. i guess if you didn’t already have any type of case for your cleaning product.

    • Cymond

      I remember seeing this on Kickstarter a while back. A typical M4 carbine doesn’t have any where to carry a cleaning kit, and neither does a soldier’s gear. This allows a soldier to carry a hard-sided cleaning kit in a common mag pouch. Getting it confused with a real magazine shouldn’t really be a problem as long as you wear it in a pouch that’s nowhere near where you keep your real mags.

  • TrustMeImTexan

    I tell you all right now, the only products you will EVER need to service and clean your firearm are Mobil-1, a microfiber cloth, and a boresnake. Anything else is just excess baggage.

    • hw

      I use WD40 but Ill try Mobil lube+protection makes sense

      • ?

        Any FTF from using WD40? Heard it can penetrate and kill primers.

        • That it can. WD40 isn’t a lubricant.

          • Ghokults

            While WD-40 can kill a primer it will not kill the primer in a complete cartridge. The
            Box O’ Truth did an article on it; http://theboxotruth.com/docs/bot39.htm.

          • 101nomad

            Yes I read that too, do not doubt it. But, few years back, in my case, WD-40 killed primers on intact assembled .38 spl + P rounds. All primers had been hit, only one round out of the six went off, It was an oversight on my part, the .38 was my fishing revolver, so it was bright idea to just spray and wipe. By all means, use WD-40. I won’t use it again on a firearm. Choices are wonderful.

        • 101nomad

          Believe me, it does kill primers. Or, it did in my .38 snub. few years back. Seemed like a good idea at the time, and I dried everything down. Had an occasion to fire the snub not long after, two rounds, hit primer, no bang, third round, bang, 4, 5, 6, no bang. Primers may be more impervious to penetrating oils such as WD-40 now. But I would not bet my life on it. Amazing, really, WD-40 vaporizes fairly well, but, even after spraying firearm down and swabbing and wiping there was enough to somehow get into primers. (I did use fresh loads later, and fired the revolver immediately after loading, all six went off.) Quit using WD-40, no more problems.

          • Sulaco

            WD 40 is also intensely hydroscopic that is it attracts
            water vapor out of ambient air. Not good for metal parts!!

    • iksnilol

      What about making a 20 round mag in the body of a 30 rounder? In the excess space you could store a small bottle of Mobil-1 or whatever you are using, a cloth, boresnake and a cut down toothbrush. And if you put it in by accident you still have 20 rounds.

      Feel free to make money of that idea, as long as you give me credit and royalties. Sorry for the disclaimer but I want to be safe.

      • Phil Hsueh

        I wonder if that could be done (legally) with a 10/30 in CA since those would have 20 rounds worth of extra space in them.

        • iksnilol

          Yay! Someone appreciated my idea.

          Regarding your question: Sure, if it can be done with a 20/30 then it could be done with a 10/30.

          Only problem is, isnt the mag spring at the bottom of the mag? So you would need some way to raise the baseplate so that you can have your free space. Opening for cleaning supplies should probably be at the bottom of the magazine. Maybe some form of drawer arrangement?

          • Phil Hsueh

            As I understand it, with the reduced capacity mags in a higher capacity body they install a piece that takes up the extra space at the bottom and use a shorter spring so you effectively raise the floor of the mag. My main concern is not the feasibility of doing this in but more with the legality of doing so in CA since if you could open the bottom it would (theoretically) allow you to convert it back into a “hi-cap” mag by cutting out the internal floor plate.

          • Cymond

            It’s my understanding that they insert a block at the floor plate that fits inside the mag spring. The spring isn’t compressed, the block just prevents the follower from going any lower than 10 rounds. I’ve seen some that insert a rivet through the spine to achieve the same result.

          • Cymond

            The modification needs to be “permanent” in CA, but really, it’s a bit more lenient. I’ve seen kits to add 5 rounds to a PMag yet the new M3 10-round PMags are legal in California as long as you don’t convert them with an extension.

            In short, I’m arguing that there is no such thing as “permanent” if you have enough time, tools, and skill. I suspect the law says “permanent” to prevent flimsy, temporary modifications that are easily reversed in the field. Hypothetically, if permanent modifications weren’t required, a magazine could be sold with a simple removable pin that shooters could pull out when no one is around and reinsert when returning to populated areas. It would technically be a violation of the law to pull the pin, but that would effectively be unenforceable.

          • Phil Hsueh

            So you’re saying that it is, in theory, legal to create a storage type 10/30 mag for use in CA & other mag capacity restricted states. I wonder what the CA DOJ would have to say about this, pity that I live in CA and can’t (legally) experiment with this idea.

          • Cymond

            I’m not a lawyer and cannot give legal advice, but it would seem to be legal. Or more specifically, I’m not aware of any laws against adding a storage section to a 10 round magazine.

    • Mary Clean

      A Boresake is good until you get a stuck case, squib round or other barrel obstruction that a snake or cable can’t clear. Also how do you plan on getting all that hard carbon out of your bolt carrier with a microfiber cloth? Plus you can buy an empty one and fill it with a boresnake, Mobil-1 and a microfiber cloth and your Mobil-1 container won’t get crushed and you won’t have to sleep in a sleeping bag full of oil.

  • Lance

    That’s for you Carbine boys. I always loved by Buttstock cleaning kit that fits in the weapon.

  • 101nomad

    My mind is boggled. True genius, we never had anywhere to carry our cleaning kits, so we just threw them away. Thimk people.

  • darrel

    Genius. I think you could make it an outrageous color like Orange or Yellow, and that would basically solve the problem, in addition to not putting it anywhere you might grab it. I think that’s pretty intuitive though. It’s hard NOT to be conscious of where exactly you’ve put live rounds on your rig.