Hands-On with 3 New Tavor Triggers at Shot Show 2014

Tavor Trigger Pack
As a long time Tavor shooter, nothing makes me happier than seeing new aftermarket parts and accessories being released now that the IWI US plant is up and running.

Small and interesting parts have been trickling out since last year’s Shot Show. Replacement handguards, sling swivels, etc, but for many shooters the biggest problem with the rifle remains unaddressed.

The Tavor’s factory trigger is a heavy beast. Anywhere from 10-15lbs depending on who you believe, with plenty of creep. The US rifles are a marked improvement from the first Tavor trigger I pulled back in 2007, but even now owners will take apart their trigger packs.  They remove springs and smooth surfaces in an effort to lighten the pull.

Shot Show 2014 saw the first SAR-21 replacement trigger packs being advertised, and I had the good fortune to try three different variants while on the show floor.
Ray Ibanez has already taken some great photos of the Timney Trigger for TFB. If you haven’t seen them: they’re worth a look.


The Timney Trigger will be the first available (March 2014) and from my experience it had the lightest pull. The Timney is a vast improvement over what I am accustomed to. It is a solid 2 stage trigger with a little bit of travel and a crisp break. Timney advertises their trigger as a true 4.5lb pull, and it feels like it.



Midway through the show, Geissele also had their prototype Tavor trigger available on the floor. Although this was not a production model, it certainly reflected the lineage of their AR-15 triggers. I found this trigger to have a marginally longer reset, but still an huge improvement over the factory trigger. Weight wise I would put it right next to the Timney Tigger, although its possible that the prototype was a 1/2 pound heavier.

The third trigger I tried came from Shooting Sight, which had been almost ready for production. However designer Art Neergaard is changing a few things after spending time with IWI’s Israeli team.

The version that I handled was a great option for those looking to improve the Tavor without shifting to an ultra-light competition trigger. With a 6lb pull, the Shooting Sight trigger uses AR pin spacing to accommodate spring setups. I found the Shooting Sight trigger had the shortest travel distance of the three, and quite liked it, but we’ll have to see if that setup continues into the next revision.
None of the replacement packs have finalized pricing yet, but Timney and Geissele are both estimating around the $350 mark. Shooting Sight is hoping to come in under $300, but part of that depends on volume and casting a new hammer.

 

TavorSafety

 

I of course have to address the local question: will these SAR-21 triggers fit into an Israeli TAR-21 rifle?

The American Tavor’s have a narrower trigger pack than the Israeli models, which effectively prevent an IDF select-fire trigger pack from being inserted. But because the SAR-21 pack is smaller, it should (and I emphasize should. When I know for certain so will you) drop into the TAR-21 well with only a little extra space. The pins that hold the trigger pack in place are identical, although in theory a spacer could also be installed on a TAR-21 to mirror the SAR-21’s compartment.

No matter how you look at it: further support for this exotic bullpup is a great thing for current owners, and is encouraging for future expansion of the line.

 


Edward O

Edward is a Canadian gun owner and target shooter with a Bachelor’s Degree in Journalism. Crawling over mountains with tactical gear is his idea of fun. He blogs at TV-Presspass and tweets @TV_PressPass.


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  • Dephgraph

    I wish the AUG got this sort of aftermarket attention. I like its quick-barrel swap dealio.

    • me ohmy

      true.. I dearly love the AUG, also wish the Steyr guys werent so much like SIG and HK guys.. seems they always say.. “what? it’s good enough.. go away.. aw yer americans.. *&^% You!! “

    • FourString

      I seriously read dealio as dildo the first time through… fml

  • me ohmy

    solves every issue I ever saw about the TAVOR.. now with a better trigger pack,
    that sucker is GO!!!!!!!!

  • gunslinger

    so how does this trigger work? obviously there is some linkage between the physical trigger and this unit.

    not familiar with the Tavor, so i’m curious.

    • http://www.scoutbasecamp.com/ TV-PressPass

      You have the trigger pack in the rear of the rifle, right behind the magazine well. Your springs, sears, hammer etc are all in there. They are connected via a linkage bar to the actual trigger in the grip of the rifle.

      • gunslinger

        where does this bar connect? i don’t see any latches or holes or anything.

        • http://www.scoutbasecamp.com/ TV-PressPass

          Let me show you some! The first picture is looking down the barrel of the rifle, but with the barrel removed. You can see the safety, trigger, and linkage bar all below the “big hole” where the barrel would sit.

        • http://www.scoutbasecamp.com/ TV-PressPass

          The second photo is looking from the back of the rifle. If you look at the same “barrel hole” in the receiver (god my terminology sucks) you’ll see a small cylinder just below it on the left side. That is the end of the linkage bar, which mates to the trigger and drops the hammer.

          • gunslinger

            ok. i think i got it. i was missing the “tuning fork” part of the trigger. the open “top” end would then slide up and mate with the bar, so when the trigger is pulled, the linkage puts pressure on that, which is connected to the sear and thus starts the process of dropping the hammer.

            thanks!

          • noob

            I think that the “tuning fork” is so shaped so the trigger linkage actually pulls on it, rather than pushes. this eliminates the possibility of “mushyness” caused by any bending of the trigger linkage (as the linkage is under tension, not compression, and is not going to stretch).

  • TangledThorns

    Since Beretta dropped the ball, several times, it looks like the Tavor will be my next rifle.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

      Good choice–I do love mine. I’ll be reviewing the Timney trigger when they are ready.

      • KestrelBike

        I can’t wait to see the review then. Love my Tavor, but the trigger is something that keeps me from using it in competitions. If the Timney, at $399, is all that it cracks up to be, I will be seriously considering it.

        • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

          I hope it is and with the track record they have I don;t see why it wouldn’t. Do you know about removing the small spring you can remove from the stock trigger group?

          • KestrelBike

            I have done so, however I didn’t notice *too* much of a difference. And unfortunately, I completely mangled the spring in the process. I’ve taken apart glocks and my M&P and never hurt a spring, but somehow screwed up taking the spring from the Tavor trigger pack!

          • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

            It made a pretty significant difference in mine but not al are the same. Don’t feel bad I did to!

  • erwos

    FWIW, I heard a rumor that Timney had pulled the “extra” return spring, which accounted for why their trigger felt the lightest.

    • http://www.thefirearmblog.com/ Phil W “Senior Writer TFB”

      We’ll see when the Timney arrives for mine.