The Closest We Will Get To A Real Magpul PDR

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Magpul took the gun world by storm when they unveiled their prototype Magpul PDR (Personal Defense Rifle) back in 2006. Unfortunately they never took it further. Now, about seven years later, their airsoft subsidiary Magpul PTS has announced that they will be selling an airsoft version of the PDR.

According to Tactical Fan Boy

The PDR-C AEG will soon be released as part of the Magpul PTS line. It’s constructed from reinforced polymer and features a custom hybrid gearbox with 8mm bearings, and a muzzle velocity of 350 FPS with the use of 0.2g 6mm BBs. For logistical reasons, the PDR-C AEG is designed for use with both PTS AEG PMAGs and AEG NATO-standard USGI-style magazines. Other specifications include a length of 18~20″, a weight of 3~4 lbs., three fire modes (safe/semi/full auto), front-wired Tamiya mini type plug (no battery included – 8.4V suggested), 11.5″ carbine barrel, M1913A Spec picatinny top rail, fully ambidextrous design, integrated light option, and single point sling mount

It will retail for $320.

Many thanks to Zak for the tip.

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  • Ryan

    According to the ATF, this toy can easily be converted to a MACHINE GUN!

    • http://www.facebook.com/bryan.jones.31149 Bryan Jones

      …all it requires is a MAC-11 to shoehorn into the plastic shell…

  • http://www.facebook.com/mark.a.gonzalez.37 Mark Armsofdurga Gonzalez

    Seriously. I give it a week for somebody to figure a way to stuff a 10/22 in there and a month to market.

    • Steve (TFB Editor)

      haha, you are probably right.

      • VP Biden

        there is a guy on http://www.thefiringline.com forum that puts the guts of a 10/22 into a bunch of things. His name is “defcon”

    • http://www.facebook.com/rusty.carr.7 Rusty Carr

      I was about to post just about thesame thing myself.

    • http://twitter.com/Azzy_FOAC BryanS

      Thought the same thing. Although since it can take nato standard mags, why not make a firearm that fits inside, a 22lr, that uses standard AR conversion mags?

      10/22 is a nice platform, when you forget about the magazine issues.

  • Justin

    MAGPUL WHY MUST YOU TEASE ME SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    • http://twitter.com/Ian_TWL Ian Garris

      If this catches on, and the AWB does not, you can bet that Magpul will eventually ship the real thing.

      • Cymond

        They have abandoned every firearm design they’ve shown, except for the Masada, which they sold to Freedom Group.

  • DougE

    Why (aside from the Magpul Massada) is Magpul so abhorant to making firearms?

    • Burst

      It might have something to do with how said gun turned out.

      • Raven

        It turned out terrible because they made the braindead decision to sell the design to Shrubmaster, a company run by suit-wearing corporate monkeys working for Cerberus Capital. If they’d made the sensible decision and kept it all in-house, the Masada could’ve been amazing.

    • Nadnerbus

      I suspect the risk is lower and returns higher in the accessory market, especially since they basically drove that whole market for a time. Sinking money into a new gun design, working out the kinks, and getting it to market at a good price point seems much more risky and prone to problems.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Yee/100001127136579 Edward Yee

        I remember reading on ARFCOM a post by a Magpul rep specifically stating that this was more or less the reason that the Magpul PDR concept was shelved — the biggest potential customer didn’t bother returning Magpul’s phone calls and no one else presumably could buy it in big enough numbers to make it worth the trouble for the company.

        • Anonymoose

          I wish the Masada/ACR, PDR, Massoud, and FMG9/FPG had worked out the way they looked like they would. :C

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Yee/100001127136579 Edward Yee

            In the case of the PDR, it didn’t even get that far.

    • ccon01

      Supposedly when they sold the rights of their Masada to Remington and Bushmaster the contract stipulated that they couldn’t produce any .223/5.56 caliber rifles for a while.
      If I remember correctly they could still make their .308 spin off, the Massoud, but they just haven’t as of yet or it’s not possible.

      It’s not that they’re abhorrent to making/selling a firearm, it’s more that they got screwed last time they did.

  • http://twitter.com/AnonymooseRex Anonymoose Rex

    Magpul, can we please have something like this? You would make a huge profit with both private and government sales. A small, no-bank-breaking bullpup carbine would be sexy, VERY useful, and would be a great thing to bring to the range.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=562482800 Jeremy Star

      I think that is the problem, though. They won’t make a bunch from government sales – they tried to market it and nobody bit – so the civilian sales can’t make up for the development costs. My take, anyway. It’s not really much smaller than some of the versions of the Tavor and FS2000.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edward-Yee/100001127136579 Edward Yee

        This is more or less what a Magpul rep stated on ARFCOM (minus the “really not much smaller” part) about why the PDR concept was shelved, although it should be noted that “compatibility with existing hardware” and presumably with methods of operation (i.e. placement of buttons) were supposed to be selling points over the Tavor and F2000 (you know, besides “Made in America”).

  • TangledThorns

    You can use it in Battlefield 3 :) Its one of my favorite weapons for the Scout. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IspjQMUTGI

  • KestrelBike

    Perhaps keeping out of actual firearm manufacturing keeps them out of certain regulatory crosshairs? (Complete guess)

    • Ben

      Pretty much. Going to firearms manufacturing involves dealing with the ATF. Why would you do that willingly?

      Manufacturing accessories has way lower R&D costs, little to no regulatory or ATF involvement (beyond basic manufacturing standards, unless you go into designing bumpfire stocks etc) and has a way higher profit margin than manufacturing full firearms.

      • http://www.facebook.com/bryan.jones.31149 Bryan Jones

        Agreed! …
        TAPCO does dominate Freedom Group!

  • http://www.facebook.com/hjbrian Brian W Cowell

    one day….

  • http://twitter.com/AnonymooseRex Anonymoose Rex

    I don’t know what the costs are to enter the market, and it’s possible there would be a good chance of failure, but the amount of excitement around the PDR should persuade the marketing department that they have an easy sell. Look at how well Deagles do despite their very narrow practical applications.

    • Frosty_The_White_Man

      You are man that knows his technics, Mr. Spengler.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dylan.draper.948 Dylan Franklin Draper

    GOD DAMN. i wanted this :(

  • Ray

    You know if I was a richer man, I’d use this as a template and have an attempt at making my own PDR. Also there was 2 versions of the PDR, one was a little longer with a 6 O’clock rail. Also you know what would be an interesting project? Having a look at the airsoft Magpul FPG and either reverse engineering it a little to be used with an SBR glock…

    • Avery

      I would not risk converting a FPG airsoft with a real Glock. That’s like an accident waiting to happen. Those parts aren’t made to the same strengths as real steel (or real plastic) guns.

      • Ray

        Oh I don’t mean actually using the airsoft device, I mean copying the mechanism and dimensions and making it out of a much sturdier material. Even when I see the rimfire conversions of airsoft guns I get a bit of a pucker factor going…

  • Tyson Chandler

    I would love to see this in .300 Blk with an appropriate can hanging off the front…..BAD ASS!

  • Chuck T

    Sigh,,,, another airsoft article on a FIREARMS blog. Damn man what is your fascination with these toys? I dunno, I stopped playing “guns” when I discovered boobies around age 12-13.

    • Avery

      The Magpul PDR was to be a 5.56mm SBR with internals designed by L. James Sullivan, the co-designer of the AR and Stoner 63 and the designer of the Ultimax and the C-Mag. The PDR finally coming to fruition as an airsoft, after so long in development, is still news, albeit ultimately sad because it’s not what that was intended.

    • http://twitter.com/Azzy_FOAC BryanS

      Because it is the only way to get that particular firearm, and for manipulation and many training scenarios… airsoft can be a useful tool?

    • http://www.facebook.com/bryan.jones.31149 Bryan Jones

      the world is passing you by…

  • gallan

    lol, it was only ever a plastic mockup, a dream gun, but because magpul made it everyone peed their pants.

    • http://twitter.com/Ian_TWL Ian Garris

      I wet myself because it was an *awesome* gun. I don’t like how normal weapons balance; only bullpups tend to balance at the rear pistol grip, which leaves me with precious few firearms that feel good in my hands.

  • Dave

    Now, PTS said in an interview that they had to wait on the US company to finish development of this before they were allowed to make a licensed airsoft copy. Features such as the left/right switching for the mid-eject system were not in place before Magpul finished their development. Tell me why Magpul wouldn’t let PTS have replica rights until they’d finished developing features useless to an airsoft gun? Just stirring the pot…

  • jabrauwnie

    10/22 in that… sounds cool yup in a month or 2…there will be dedicated stock of 10/22 under different company lol…..

  • snmp

    Theire are the ZK-22 Bullpup 10/22 Stock from son of the gun

  • Lance

    Prefer a Mk-18 100% over this plastic toy (the real Magpul). But for fun this looks like another airsoft fun toy.

  • milo

    im sad about this

  • Leo

    Enough said, I’m getting one.

  • Cymond

    Pro Training & Simulation … of a gun that doesn’t exist.

    I actually had an airsoft seller try to convince me that the FPG was also available as a real gun, and that the feds have some.

  • Chrome Dragon

    Is there a properly designed light to go in the PDR’s internal light mount yet? I’d love even a toy PDR, but trying to figure out how to put a scoutlight on the top rail is one of the reasons I’m hesitating.

  • Michael

    I would love to see a dedicated civilian personal defence weapon.

    Probably be a bullpup in 7.62×39, or a pistol caliber, 9mm .40, 45 or 7.62×25

  • Tom

    Can you see the somewhat similarities between the FN P90 ( FNH ) and this Magpul PDR?
    I think that’s why this weapon didn’t finish the production line. Enough said. FNH will always win first place ( remember the Magpul Masada, that was taken over by Remington and Bushmaster, as the ACR? ). There you go.