DoubleTap Dramas

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The gun industry has no shortage of drama. Last month the inventor of the Double Tap pistol dropped his manufacturing partner Heizer Defense because of their inability to manufacture the much delayed pistol. Richard of Gun Holsters & Gear spoke to Heizer Defense who claim the real reason they did not manufacture the pistol was because of safety and ergonomic issues

According to Bruchas, Heizer Defense refused to let the DoubleTap pistol go into production due to a variety of design problems. Among them were an unspecified safety issue and an extremely uncomfortable grip design. Bruchas intimated that the team from DoubleTap wanted to go into production even with the safety concerns unresolved and without any changes to the grip design.

DoubleTap Defense dispute this saying “Ray Kohout’s design is one of the safest and most simplistic firearm products on the market”.

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  • http://www.milgeek.co.uk Milgeek

    To be fair – and bear in mind I have never fired a .45APC – but the grip does look a little too weenie! I should imagine that this would make this gun very hard to control?

    But as this is a last line of defence sorta gun, is ergonomics a priority?

    • BluegrassGeek

      It is, if you ever want to practice with it. If the gun’s pounding your hand with every shot, you’re less likely to practice with it. And if you want to hit anything out of arm’s reach, you need to practice.

      • Sian

        I don’t think this gun is really designed for any use past ‘get off of me’ distance anyway. that it doesn’t malfunction in a contact shot is a plus.

    • Zermoid

      I would imagine it would not be very pleasant to shoot, but neither are derringers in heavy calibers. Heck, even a NAA mini revolver in 22LR is uncomfortable to shoot for very long!

      You aren’t gonna be buying anything like this for target shooting, it’s intended as something you can hide in a pocket and use to save your bacon if TSHTF in some dark alley.

      I just don’t see the real usefulness of it, if my life is on the line I want more than 2 shots, even if they are smaller caliber, I’d rather have a 8 shot 22 snub nose revolver than a 2 shot 45 myself, but that’s just my opinion.

  • bbmg

    There must be more to it than an uncomfortable grip.

    How is it less comfortable that any other 45 acp derringer, of which there are plenty on the market?

    Also a bit odd is the fact that if there were a specific safety issue, one would expect it to be specified…

    • http://www.wallsofthecity.net/ Linoge

      Seconded. If I encountered a safety problem on anything sufficiently large that I refused to produce the anything, I would publicize that safety problem far and wide so people did not unwittingly run into it should they find one eventually produced in the wild.

      That Heizer is refusing to specify the safety problem has me wondering…

    • Zermoid

      I keep thinking along those lines too, derringers have been done, other than it is in essence a double action derringer, the rest of the idea has been done.

      I really don’t see a big market for it myself.

  • gunslinger

    he said, she said?

    i don’t see why a manufacture wouldn’t produce because of someone else’s ergonomic design. that i don’t buy. I can understand safety, but wouldn’t there be some clause to limit liability? it’s one thing to use cheaper metals than specified. but if they were following the design specifications would they be liable?

    and i also agree about not saying what safety issues were at hand. now i think that puts them at risk because they know of a problem but didn’t do anything to prevent it.

    • BluegrassGeek

      “i don’t see why a manufacture wouldn’t produce because of someone else’s ergonomic design.”

      I can. This thing is made to fire .45 ACP rounds in a small package. If it’s actually uncomfortable (or even painful) to shoot, very few people are going to buy it. It’s already a bit of a niche product, making it uncomfortable to shoot would cut down on even that small customer base.

      • bbmg

        Shooting comfort is obviously sacrificed for compactness in this case, as with all derringer type weapons. This would be the type of gun you hope would would never have to use, and cannot realistically expect to be useful beyond a few feet.

        I would surmise that prospective customers would purchase it, fire it a couple of times then keep it in their handbag/glove compartment where it would in most cases never again see the light of day. It would therefore make little sense to make it larger and more complex in order to make it comfortable. In this case, they have at least ported the top half of the barrels which reduced recoil and muzzle climb without adding complexity or weight.

        Also, according to the website, still with the unfortunate Heizer name: http://heizerfirearms.com/

        “ST. LOUIS, MO (November 7, 2012) – DoubleTap™ Defense, LLC announces today that it has chosen Florida-based Azimuth Technology, LLC to manufacture the DoubleTap™ concealed carry pistol.”

        It seems that if there were safety or ergonomic issues, Azimuth Technology LLC is not too concerned.

      • Sian

        Just the other day I tried shooting full-bore .357 FMJ through a Ruger LCR. Holy hell. This thing can’t be any worse than that. (my wrist is still twinging)

  • Ryan

    I’d think Heizer doesn’t want to be be known as a company that readily slings mud. Thus the reason for not coming clean on the “safety” issues. I feel it’s one of those situations where being mute about the actual issue is an attempt to save face for both Heizer and DoubleTap.

    One of the more interesting paragraphs in the Heizer Press Release was this.

    “As some of you may know, Heizer Defense intended to develop a business relationship with Ray Kohout and Marvin Dufner; however, that relationship never materialized, the most prominent reason for which was the
    economics proposed by them did not forecast a successful business relationship.”

    Seems like Heizer felt the safety and ergonomic issues would effect sales more then anything. In all reality “safety” is huge umbrella when dealing with firearms. It might not be an actual safety issue with the design but rather the materials proposed for use.

  • Doug

    Heizer’s a little late on the defense. If they thought the design was unsafe why didn’t they say so before they entered into contract? If they noticed after the fact, why not declare so much sooner in the game?

  • Tim

    “Safety concerns” is the perfect (“it’s not you, it’s me” / no further details available!) justification to dissolve a business relationship that “just isn’t working” (for any number of unflattering reasons).

  • Will Leach

    Im no expert on firearms, business, or the business of firearms, but if I were a manufacturer and I did not produce a product because of a design flaw, I would probably keep quiet on specifics for a while in order to give the designers time to improve upon things. Publishing flaws before a product is made could prevent you from ever being able to successfully market that product if the flaws are fixed. Of course you might have burned bridges with the designers at the point, possibly leading to litigation or a loss of reputation. Im not saying thats what happened, or that its probable, but to me this seems plausable.

  • Mike Knox

    By the time this’ll be available, someone else’d have done so with a better design..

  • Roger

    I doubt we will ever see the gun. I feel for the people who tossed their money away on it so far.

  • Mouse

    I feel I should mention that I saw this gun being used on an episode of the show: Human Target.

    http://www.tvshow7.eu/person-of-interest-season-2-episode-2-bad-code/

    At 26:20

  • DodgeBall

    Interesting