Steve Johnson

Founder and Dictator-In-Chief of TFB. A passionate gun owner, a shooting enthusiast and totally tacti-uncool. Favorite first date location: any gun range. Steve can be contacted here.


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  • Samopal

    Finally rail guns have been officially adopted for military use. I never thought I’d see the day.

    • jim

      Yep. We were so dumb. We had this gun for 100 years. Wecould have had rail guns a hundred years ago. The 1911 was ready.

      • David/Sharpie

        There was no need for rails back then you dumb@ss….

    • Soless

      A higher level of maintenance is required beyond user maintenance and that is why the 2111 and 2112 MOS exist. It wasn’t a problem when it was the issued sidearm. And it won’t be a problem now regardless of what firearms experts say respectible or not.

  • jim

    This is how colt makes money, paying generals to buy their 100 years old technology.
    bloody laughable.

    • bmit

      100 years old and still works just fine.

      • Rick

        The “its worked for 100 years” argument isn’t an argument at all. People have used blades as in swords , spears, daggers and machetes recently and they kill rather well but they aren’t the most efficient or the best . I agree the 1911 again being reused is odd and a prime example of the military contracting machine.. Whats next 1903 springfield because it worked well in ww1 ?

    • Reverend Clint

      are you high or just retarded? The original design is 100 years old yes but any rifle based on a mauser action is well over 110 years old… age doesnt make it any less effective. Plus this isnt a standard issue, its for marine spec ops. Yes the m16 is an older design but the new m4 and m16a4 are all under 20 years old. FN Mag is as old as the m16 but still gets used and bought by many armies including what ever country you were birthed in.

    • Whitepaw

      Somebody sure has a chip on his shoulder… Every man his own politician haha

    • W

      I love trolls..especially when they steal your name and post bullshit.

      Youre right in a sense that I dont have a job because I am happily without one.

      Go do that shit somewhere else fucknut.

  • Soless

    What are you guys blabbing about? The meusoc pistol has always been a 1911. Instead of being built by parts sourced from kimber, colt now has the contract. Big deal. And why complain about the militarys need for a rail? At least the trigger guard is undercut.

  • Lance

    No surprise Colt make great .45s. Only Kimber and Springfield make similarly good 1911s. Colt has the military ties though.

  • Reverend Clint

    people like you…

  • Nadnerbus

    That gets a ten out of ten for troll bait. You hit all the right buttons. Screen name: makes fun of the USA and patriotic bumpkins. Body: rips on the beloved 1911 and everyone who likes it. Message: everyone that does is a fat, creationist redneck. I extend to you the slow clap, sir.

    • Whitepaw

      My concern is that he is serious. (;

    • W

      The Marine Corps is going to be the Marine Corps. They have a traditional attachment to the 1911 that defies objective thinking when comparing it to modern designs.

      The 1911 is a beautiful gun, and regardless of internet myth, a well-taken care of 1911 is very reliable.

      Where you run into trouble is treating a 1911 like a Glock or other modern design, which is prominent among america’s shooting crowd. There is a reason why any respectable firearms expert will recommend going through a armorer’s course before buying a 1911. They require that higher amount of user level training (I believe all people should go through armorer courses for their firearms, but i do digress).

      The higher maintenance requirements of the 1911 are the reason why typically elite forces use them and regular ones dont (when pertaining to police or military). I personally believe they would have been better served with the HK or SIG, though that is a opinion of mine. In a sandy environment, frozen tundra, or meritime conditions, I would rather have those weapons.

  • JD

    Someone needs an IP ban.

    Truth is special forces know a lot more about gun fighting than you ever could. They have the option to carry this or the M9A1, and possibly the 226 as well. Chances are if you met any SF Marine and told him his gun sucks and he doesn’t know anything about warfare he’d knock you out with a bitch slap and sew your lips shut so he wouldn’t have to hear you whine like a little girl.

    • Gumby

      So apparently the US is “pussy” for using its air forces, like several Western European countries have done in the Bosnian conflict and more recently, Libya.

    • sure am

      Boy I sure love the politics blog all with all its insightful finger pointing and non of this firearm bullshit…

  • Tyler Marcoz

    Is the 1911 like a troll magnet or something?

    That said, special forces are gonna use what they want. It’s not new, it’s proven. Nothing wrong with that. I can not be a fan of the platform and still recognize it is a proven one.

  • Leonard

    I thought they were using the H&K Mk 23? Probably under another designation…or maybe I just did get the various US special forces confused again.

    • higgs

      No one uses the MK23, it is huge and dumb.

      • Ben

        You’re not an operator, you wouldn’t understand that a true combat pistol needs to be a foot long šŸ˜€

    • W

      No. Ive seen a few of them in Iraq and Afghanistan, though for men of smaller stature with average sized hands, they are not very popular.

      They are incredibly rugged, reliable, and accurate, though the size does necessitate the use of the term “offensive handgun”. There is a reason why HK introduced the 45 and 45C (with the “C” variant given the designation of Mk 24 mod 0), which are far more user friendly handguns.

    • Burst

      It IS huge, don’t get me wrong. But it does what it was designed to very well. Long barrel, high accuracy, highly reliable.

      It’s probably the best combat pistol around.
      That said, if you’re relying on a pistol for military combat, something probably went very wrong.

  • Doug

    Good, maybe Colt can finally get back to contracting with .gov and forsake the civilian market again. I mean, were we ever really worthy?

  • Whitepaw

    Wow! People like to whine. The 1911 is an excellent pistol, and if MEU(SOC) wants to use it as their reserve weapon of choice, then that’s their damn prerogative.

  • lolinski

    woulndt it be better if they used a doublestack 1911 such as the Para Ordnance P14? Since IMO 14 rounds of 45 ACP is better than 8.

    • Inogame

      Double stacks are cool, but my guess is the couple rounds extra they can get is not worth the drop in reliability.

      Also, aside from the Caspian framed double, all the others I’ve held feel very different gripwise. That may be why they stuck with the single stack.

      • John Doe

        If you can’t kill someone with 8 rounds of .45 ACP, you probably can’t kill them with 14.

      • David/Sharpie

        Canadian Special Forces can use Para-Ord P14s if they want, I don’t think they would use them if they weren’t reliable.

  • Curzen

    their next purchase: railed M1 Garands. Not sure with what WW2 era tech they’ll replace their troublesome V22 Ospreys though.

    • Inogame

      They have railed M1s, for the record.

      Google MK14 EBR.

      • Rob

        There is a difference between a M1 Garand and a Mk14. The latter is an M1A.

    • Inogame

      The M14 is built on the same action as the M1 Garand. Re-chambered for .308 Winchester and added box magazine – some would refer to these as upgrades to the original design.
      The M1a is the civilian version of the M14.

      The MK14 EBR replaced the wooden stock with a railed aluminum.

      I urge you to take a look at the 2 side by side for a bit of education on this.

      • David/Sharpie

        The M14/M1A is heavily based on the M1 Garand, but they are not the same……

    • Cymond

      Regardless of the difference between a M1 and M1A, there absolutely is a Sage EBR chassis for the M1.

      http://www.sageinternationalltd.com/si/access/ebr.html#m1

  • JayT

    If Colt really wanted to impress the brass they should have at least built a “new to them” pistol with a higher magazine capacity. Something like Paraordinance

  • Tim V

    Its a great pistol no doubt at all. But it seems to be more of a nostalgia thing rather then the best option. Lacks suppressor adaptability, low capacity, rather large. Just a thought but the HK45ct/MK24 might have been a better and cheaper buy. I know a pistol is not your main weapon but why not have the most versatile option?

    • Inogame

      Lacks suppressor ability?

      Says who?

      Please google Image ‘Suppressed 1911’

      • 2Wheels

        Yeah, I highly doubt it would be that hard for those experienced Marine armorers to fit a threaded barrel to these Colts, though it’s very possible that on the rare occasion they need a suppressed pistol for a mission they’ve already got something ready to go in their armories.

      • Tim V

        As you can do with any pistol, but why buy a pistol without that capability standard? Not saying its bad pistol at all i would love to have one, just saying there are more versatile, cheaper options that are at least as equal in accuracy and reliability.

      • 2Wheels

        Only the Marines know, but I’m betting that they don’t need suppressors often enough to demand that capability on each and every one of their sidearms. Sure it’d be nice, but not totally necessary.

        Plus, if they wanted to stay with the 1911 platform, demanding a threaded barrel severely limits their options or drives up their cost. I only know of a couple factory 1911s with threaded barrels (Sig comes to mind), and the other option would be for Colt to add a threaded barrel (more $$!).

      • Tim V

        This was an emotionally based decision not a performance and cost based decision as all military purchases SHOULD BE. I have yet to see any data as too why the heavier, lower capacity, much higher cost, much more maintenance intensive pistol was chosen over other pistols. “Because i like it” shouldn’t be the way a multi-million dollar government purchase should be made.

    • W

      Tim, youre 100% right.

      In a objective test between 45’s, I personally believe that the Mk 24 Mod 0 will hand the 1911 its ass. It sure is a lot more versatile.

      Its not a demerit of the 1911’s design (JMB was a genius), its that the handfitting of components for each individual gun is a pain in the ass for military units, though the MEU(SOC) is dead set on the 1911.

      And the M45’s requirements doesnt state it has to have a suppressor.

  • John Doe

    I hear the Colt 1911 rail gun uses magnets to shoot a .45 caliber projectile at hypersonic speeds. Far more effective than any normal gun they could’ve picked. šŸ˜‰

  • Ian

    Russia: Our pistol is old, let’s replace it.
    USA: Our pistol is old, let’s put a rail on it.

    • greasyjohn

      Wrong.

      They also make it double-barreled.

      • David/Sharpie

        No, the Israelis did that.

    • nobody

      You left out the part where the Russian gun never gets replaced.

    • David/Sharpie

      Replacing guns, not the design.

      They did both. Same design, new guns, with rails.

  • 2Wheels

    Lol, lotta whining on this thread. As someone pointed out the Marines have already been using 1911s for a long time. But instead of continuing to fix up their old and worn out 1911s, which they’ve been doing for a loooong time… they’re buying some new off the shelf ones that come with a rail.

    So what? So a very small elite group of Marines who have actually been using handguns in combat (unlike many posters here I suspect) have decided that they want to stick with the platform they’ve been using for a long long time. I say let ’em! Clearly they like and trust the platform. When you guys get into MEUSOC, you can lobby to be issued HK45s or Glocks for all I care.

  • gunslinger

    oh boy…

    the trolls come out of the woodwork. just let me grab my popcorn and pop…and watch the fireworks.

  • alannon

    If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

    I’m pretty sure the MEU(SOC) guys chose an appropriate pistol for the job, given that at least some of the evaluators are putting their balls on the block with the choice.

    • Mat

      A 1911 bordering on a full custom job is broken and fixed ,while Glock or XD could do the job of the shelf at faction of a price .

      1911 in no star in terms of reliability or ease of use ,doesn’t shine in terms of precision either . Numbers of 1911 used in LE and Military around the world make it a relic of the past .

  • Jeff

    Eh, whatever people say, the 1911 is still out there and killing a lot of people. The only thing I wonder is whether Murphy’s law guided the decision: Always keep in mind that your weapon was made by the lowest bidder.

    I’d be wary if Colt outbid SA or something and is pumping out crappy 1911s for MEUSOC. Especially since 1911s are harder to fix than M9s.

  • Reverend Clint

    wow so you steal my name and completely misrepresent me… good work

    • W

      Hopefully this is not a new trend.

    • Other Steve

      W,

      May this crap is what this site finally needed to get a proper moderation system in place.

      I don’t want to see the “Your Comment is Awaiting Moderation” but at least a Login system would help. Getting rid of idiots, trolls, and 15yo’s would be the next logical step.

      I also don’t expect to see my name arguing about getting more raped or less raped than expected.

  • Other Steve

    Steve, perhaps you can start policing the comments section of the sight to some medium degree. The trolls are goin to happen but impersonating people should at least be against the rules.

    And to get some thumbs down here… The 1911 is a dead platform for civilian defense, but if all you have is 1911 ball ammo… Wait, no, the M&P and HK45 are still far better guns šŸ˜‰

    • Phil White

      Well sir Steve will be back online a little later and the impersonator will be dealt with!
      We thought free expression was a good way to go and honestly this is the first time something this perverted has happened.
      Censoring is not what we want but this goes above and beyond reason.

      Gunner777

      Those comments have been removed——

    • FormerSFMedic

      I second that! Moderation is absolutely horrible here! It’s fine to let people voice their concerns and not be censored but at some point the line must be drawn. The reason I haven’t been dropping comments here lately is because of the terrible moderation. I want to have educated discussions with like minded people, not waste my time reading BS and watching people impersonate other users (which is the worst offense by far). No one is going to take this blog seriously if the comments continue in this direction. Blogs like SOFREP have an impeccable reputation for moderation and their viewing numbers reflect that! Moderation only helps the editor and his blog. Hell, I haven’t visited for the last 3 weeks because user “Lance” has still been allowed to post his trollish comments and attack others for no reason. SOFREP would have dropped him months ago!

    • cc19

      I agree. Moderation is long over due. Consider this page an open house; free to browse. but as soon as you have a guests pissing in the corners, the homeowner needs to kick them out.

  • Inogame

    This 1911 hate amuses me to a point. Mostly because there are obviously not many users of the firearm chiming in.
    First off, there has been more than a couple upgrades to the old 1911 since its inception. Next the main reason it is no longer adopted by more than special operations groups is they are more expensive to build. Big Green doesn’t want to pay the per unit rate for everyone.
    Spec ops get to pretty much shoot what they want so I’m going to say if the best operators in the world want it, they can have it.

    Its a proven reliable system that utilizes a big round and is very accurate.

    You don’t need 20 rounds in the mag if you hit what you’re aiming at.

    It’s still utilized by some of the best shooters in the world for a reason, and that reason isn’t remembering days long past. Its because they work.

    • Mat

      There is noting 1911 can do that Glock or XD can’t at a fraction of a cost and plastic guns are both easyer to use and more reliable, and can go on without need for custom workshop toybox. Its most likely again a case of a inside lobyist that will end up on Colts board later down the line as was the case with M16/M4 family where plenty of brass retired to a cushy job at Colt.

    • John Doe

      Amen. If you can’t kill ’em with 8 rounds of .45 ACP, you can’t kill him with 20 rounds of anything else, sans 40mm.

      There are lighter .45s, arguably better ones (I have weird hands, so I prefer the Glock 21), but you can’t go wrong with the good old 1911.

      • Tyler Marcoz

        Right, but anything worth shooting once is worth shooting three times, and having that capability is nice. Sure, you could ‘hit what you’re aiming at’ but just in case I’d rather hit what I’m aiming at a few more times.

  • Phil White

    Rev Clint—–

    This theft of your user name will be taken care of when Steve gets back online a bit later.

    Gunner

    Clint it’s taken care of——

  • tracertong

    Ok, why does he spell it as “Solider”, not Soldier? He does this in every post.

    • HEP-T

      It’s called an Edumacated enter finger.

  • Tony

    Awesome! Colt’s pistols are back to the military!

  • BW

    On one hand, the return of John Browning’s glorious .45 to the military fold is a welcome event. On the other hand… Colt? Really?

    Does the DoD think only Colt makes M1911s like it’s the 1920s again?

    There are plenty of other manufacturers out there that don’t charge almost one grand for a very standard M1911. Hell, Colt’s probably overcharging them for that too. For that kind of money they could be getting fully rigged-out Kimbers.

    What a mixed bag this is.

    • Phil White

      Even though Remington recently signed a fairly large contract with the military for additional M4’s with upgrades the vast majority of M4’s are still coming from Colt.
      I have to think that is a factor in Colt being awarded the contract. Also, very few other companies have the capacity to manufacture the quantities involved and still keep up with civilian orders which are their bread and butter. Colt, as we know, has backed way off on civilian sales and make most of their income from the military so it doesn’t effect their civilian market.
      By quantity I’m also including all the extra parts, magazines and everything else they always figure in.

    • W

      Perhaps I am mistaken, but from my experience, I have never seen a 1911 under 1000 bucks that was worth a shit.

      I heard that Remington makes a decent 1911, but with Springfield and Kimber, I hear mixed results, ranging from impeccable to terrible.

      I like Colt 1911’s because they are generally consistent in their quality and reliability. That is a plus. Im sure Colt’s production capability has a lot to do with it too.

      • SBeck

        Have to expand on “worth a shit” Do you mean, goes BANG every time? My stock Charles Daley at $350 in a $15 holster used to eat Kimbers at our pistol league. If you practice with a gun you trust, price doesn’t mean that much. It may not have the tightest groups but they were all in the “A” zone or on steel if I did my part.

      • W

        yes I did mean one that was at least consistently reliable. That is wonderful that a inexpensive gun like that would at least perform as youve described. Like I said, perhaps im mistaken, if there’s somebody who had a inexpensive 1911 perform well, Id like to hear about it.

      • BW

        Hell, you could buy an M1911 from Metro Arms in the Philippines for about that much and be none the wiser. They’re made off of old Colt hardware anyway and, mechanically, built to pure A1 standards – no full-length guide rod, no firing pin safety, none of that extraneous crap that makes the gun more complicated. Other than modern Novak sights, the pistol more or less is built just the way Browning would have done it. Surely that’s good enough.

      • W

        The point that I failed to mention is quality. Those pistols may have been produced by Colt tooling, though what about the quality of the steel used?
        There is a reason why I remain skeptical of the long term durability of offshore 1911s, even if they were produced from Colt’s cookie cutter.

        • Phil White

          W,

          I have a good amount of time with the Rock Islands and Metro Arms. In fact I’ve spoken with the plant manager of Rock Island in the Philippines. The steel that’s used is the same as what is used here. Both the slide and frame are forged. Several well known gunsmiths list the pistols they will accept for a base gun in a custom build. One that comes to mind listed five brands with Rock Island as one of the them.
          Anyway the steel is 4140 if I remember correctly.
          My oldest Rock Island is about seven years old and has had a bunch of rounds through it with no parts breakage. I’ve used my Commander sized Metro Arms has been used for about 2 years but I use it a good deal teaching classes and qualifying local LEO’s so it’s shot a good deal as well. Again no problems. To be fair I’m a 1911 guy so I know how to take care of them and that does make a difference.

      • W

        phil, that is fascinating. It answers the question that I had. thank you.

        • Phil White

          W,

          Glad to pass the info along— šŸ™‚

    • Jeff

      +1 to the 1920s comment….. as vuurwapenblog puts it, those military trials were the first and last time a 1911 worked that well.

      I makes me wonder if crafting 1911s is a lost art…either way, I just hope the military buys good magazines for the m45. If not, those guns are going to fail harder than the m9

      • FormerSFMedic

        That information is ridiculous. The 1911 was able to pass stringent accuracy, reliability, and longevity testing performed by the FBI when they chose their SWAT/HRT guns. The M45 chosen by the Corps was not adopted without testing of its own. The Colt 1911 was tested for 50,000 rounds with no need for an overhaul. That’s one thing the 1911 trumps other designs on, it’s ability to run for over 30,000 rounds without significant parts replacement.

        BTW, the Corps has already been using outstanding magazines. They’ve been running Wilson 47D mags for years with good performance and have been switching to the new ETM as of late.

        I don’t care if you guys don’t like the 1911 or not but you have to be HONEST about its capabilities. Saying it hasn’t ran well since the 1920’s is just not true. The 1911 is one of the most durable platforms on the market hands down. People need to check their opinions before posting them as fact. Oh yeah, I run a GLOCK BTW!

        • Phil White

          FormerSFMedic,

          I just got an email from a retired SF friend with a link to the Marine Corp Times. Bottom line they are buying 4000 Colts with the usual extras for $22.5 million bucks. That is a chunk of change for 4000 pistols with extras! Of course that number could be added into another purchase.

      • Evan

        Actually, in the 1983-1984 XM9 JSSAP tests, the M1911 A1 old stock pistol performed pretty comparably with all the participants, considering.

        In most phases it performed worse, (lacking 70-some years of manufacturing and engineering advances) but the control M1911A1, despite the sub-par results in previous tests, dominated the mud tests with a perfect score: After being submerged then fired wet and dry repeatedly over an extended period of time, the M1911 functioned flawlessly. The H&K, Beretta, and S&W entrants passed with near-perfect scores, but the SIG scored only 79 percent in the dry mud phase. The Walther entry failed both wet and dry mud tests.

      • FormerSFMedic

        Always appreciate the feedback Phil. Thanks.

        What I’ve heard is that the $22.5 Mil is for 4,000 pistols + spare parts and support equipment and for replacements two times. In other words, the price tag is for 12,000 guns. The Corps is not going to rebuild guns like they used to with the old 1911’s. They’re just going to replace them……..twice.

        • Phil White

          FormerSFMedic,

          You bet—and that makes me feel a lot better than what I thought we were paying per gun!

      • W

        Jeff, I will have to disagree.

        The 1911’s that are finnicky and unreliable are not because of any limitation of the design itself, but rather the way they are treated by the people that own them. They are not Glocks, HKs, or SIGs; they are a entirely different beast. Its interesting how the opinions of the Marine Corps and FBI HRT pertaining to the 1911 are different than joe blow that occasionally takes his 1911 on a range.

        It is a fact that the 1911 was produced in a era of cheap man labor and expensive machine labor. The Glock was produced in a era of cheap machine labor and expensive man labor. A battle of opposing eras. The 1911 was certainly state-of-the-art for its era: compared to other designs, it was extremely reliable, powerful, and was undoubtedly the finest combat handgun.

        You can buy reliable 1911s and certainly facilitate superior reliability. Treating them like your Glock will yield unfavorable results.

    • ColonelColt

      My Rock Island Armory M1911 has functioned flawlessly except for crap ammo causing problems. Considering the number of M1911 type pistols that Colt has been producing compared to other manufacturers, I highly doubt they just have the production capability sitting around. Colt essentially abandoned the civilian market quite a while ago and their customer service is lacking in what they do produce. I obviously have a great affection for Colt in the olden days but the modern company is honestly a disappointment. Their current biggest product (ARs) can be made by other manufacturers to the same quality and better/cheaper/faster which is why FN and Remington are getting contracts.

  • Other Steve

    Wow, I know you’re not trolling because not one single part of your post is actually correct. Trolls are more clever, they toss in one correct or sort of correct thing in a rant like that.

    You’re just an ass who has no idea what he’s talking about. Congrats, At least you’re not a troll I guess.

  • Davy Crockett

    Series 80 in da house.

  • johnny dairs

    When your life depends on it, you don’t want a “tricked out” 1911. See what Clint at Thunder Ranch says about 1911’s with close tolerances and their tendency to malfunction in less that ideal circumstances. jd

    • Phil White

      As Jeff Cooper was fond of saying “all you need is a good trigger and sights you can see”. That about sums it up.

    • David/Sharpie

      “Tricked out” no.

      But I’m better with my 1911 than my Glock.

  • Fred

    These military “trials” are hilarious. I’ll bet my lunch there’s plenty of wallet-fattening behind the scenes.

    • Ian

      Actually the trend has become:
      1. Decide what pistol/rifle you want.
      2. Invite competition.
      3. Hold mock testing.
      4. Buy pistol/rifle you want.

      The IAR program worked this way and I suspect things won’t change.

  • Darrel

    Colt has a much better name than any other manufacturer of 1911s, including Springfield. I’m not surprised at all.

    What’s the deal with spraying guns tan? So you can lose your pistol in the desert and get your ass chewed by the armory? It doesn’t make any sense, especially on sidearms. For a TOW missile or something, OK, fine.

    • Tyler Marcoz

      Eh, because it’s also harder to see when carrying. Now, a sidearm seems a bit silly as it’ll be holstered, but you might as well, I guess; I’d rather be a little harder to see and risk getting chewed out by an armorer than I would being easier to spot and thus easier to shoot.

    • DeeB

      Because black is highly visible through infrared and night vision…

    • Because black gets really hot very quickly in the sun.

  • snake

    I have to admit this is the ugly version of sig scorpion

  • jim

    it’s nice that the 1911 is *still* in service..

  • too late to be typing

    Sorry but if soldiers had a choice for a handgun most wouldn’t want a 1911 style handgun.
    -Weight of a 1911 is a pound heavier than a glock or M&P. (and .45 is heavier than 9mm or .40
    -When you’r in the middle of a fire fight most people don’t hit what they’re aiming at so round count matters

    -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfJj90eNIfE and I’ll take his opinion over internet fact any day

    • Phil White

      too,

      I would urge you to look into the opinions of reputable instructors. This guy has a terrible reputation. I hate to see anyone steered in the wrong direction by someone such as this.

      As far as Glock vs. 1911 we all have our preferences and as long as you shoot the pistol well and practice with it that’s great if either one is your choice and you are confident with it.

      Ask someone like SF Medic who has been there done that. In fact he has posted on this thread about the very subject you bring up. He runs a Glock but likes 1911’s. Just as with civilian shooters military members have differing opinions.

      • too late to be typing

        Watch some of James Yeager’s Videos he know’s his stuff.

      • FormerSFMedic

        Phil, thanks for the “endorsement”. Here’s my view on the video.

        James Yeager is someone I met some 5yrs ago. I actually like the guy and I think he has alot of great knowledge and advice. However, he is very controversial and that’s how he likes it. There are many in the community that believe that James is outdated, stubborn, reckless, and carries an elitist mindset. I don’t know about ALL of that but there are certainly times where I feel James is off the mark. As far as this video, James makes valid points that are true for the most part. However, none of that applies to the MEU/SOC adopting this new Colt 1911 as their M45. If there is something that the commenter thinks DOES apply, please point it out. I’m not seeing where these points make any argument on the subject nor do i really see any argument AGAINST the use of the 1911 for fighting applications.

        • Phil White

          FormerSFMedic,

          You bet. I was hoping you would find this and give us your opinion. Much appreciated!

    • David/Sharpie

      Yeager is a prick, he blocked me from commenting because I disagreed with him.

      I will not listen to this “know-it-all” ever, you can if you want……..

      • The Tengu

        Been there done that myself. Guy is unpleasant at best.

    • Nater

      Yeager can be a prick and is wrong about some things, but his opinion on the 1911 is pretty close to reality. He has certainly seen enough of them to have formed a pretty accurate opinion on the vast majority of these pistols on the market.

      However, the reason the Marines likely went with a 1911 is because they already had them. It is much easier to sell replacing worn out pistols with the same thing (more or less) than it is to sell buying an entirely new design with all the controversy that would entail.

  • richard

    Why don’t they just go with rock island armory 1911’s, it’s not like the army has won a war in 60+ yrs. just give em whatever, make them earn it.

    • BW

      You’re somehow implying that RIA 1911s are bad in any way. Like most Filipino factories, those are basically built to more or less original A1 standards. The way Browning did it should be good enough, at least on the internals.

      • kzrkp

        RIA 1911s are much better made than modern Colts and would likely not have this problem.

  • Trev

    This is like a Colt/.45 Fan Boy wet dream.

  • gunfighter 2012

    This is ridiculous.

  • Charles Thatcher

    Guys,

    They’ve lost the plot here. The 1911 is an iconic pistol and still good to go today.
    But seriously self defense or combat situations are 9mm parabellum (or .40-type) environments.

    Been there, seen it Angolan civil war 1975-onwards.

    Used – Spanish Star 9mm para then (South African franchised), Sig P-228 9mm for PP at home. Glock as good or maybe better option than Sig?

    CJ
    Johannesburg
    South Africa

  • mosinman

    im glad to see the 1911 back in action : )

  • Nicks87

    “But Iā€™m better with my 1911 than my Glock.”

    So am I but I would never carry a 1911 on duty.

    Without trying to kick a dead (dying?) horse, I will just say: two different tools for two different jobs.

  • W

    Im not very excited about a 21st century special operations unit using a handgun like the 1911, simply because of the advantages of other more modern designs.

    That being said, undoubtedly the units that will be using these pistols will keep them properly maintained and replace parts as necessary with a exquisite degree of competence. Because of this, they will be extremely reliable and durable.

    I find it inspiring that JMB’s design still serves honorably in our armed forces, even in the era of the microchip, stealth technology, and the eclectic mix of more modern competitors now available.

    The 1911 is as American as it gets. They are a damned neat handgun.

  • skydiverm15

    I’m a combat Marine Viet Nam era and I carried the Colt 1911 in combat as my back up to my M-79. It served me with excellent results when I most needed it.Even after being dragged through the paddies it still came up shooting and never jammed on me.I’m glad the Corp has gone back to it.Its a proven veteran that has performed when most needed.I’m in favor of it very much,but most remind others that it also killed Marines on the firing line mainly because improper use or lack of concentration by the shooter.All in all the Colt 1911 has proven itself many times over and deserves to be back in the Corp’s arsenal.OOH RAH SEMPER FI.From and old Marine

  • flgeorge

    I know my reply is late but I just read all the posts on the Colt M45. I am not an expert on firearms but I have concluded that beliefs on brands of pistols is somewhat like religion, you either believe or you don’t. In the early 60’s I was a young Air Policeman in the USAF. We were issued old Navy 38’s, what a piece of junk. We were then issued 45’s. The one I was issued rattled when shook and I could not hit anything with it. One day while on partol I stopped at the base armory and they exchanged it for one used by the base pistol team. At 15 yards I could constantly put most of the rounds in the space of a silver dollar. I also cleaned this weapon frequently and it was simple and I never experienced any problems with it. In 1971 while stationed at Tan Son Nhut AB, RVN we were issued 38’s. One day one of our gate guards was knocked down by a GI who then stole his 38. As the GI was running away the shift supervisor drove up and fired at the fleeing GI, no effect, thought he had missed. Later the GI was apprehended by a joint Army/USAF patrol. The GI kicked the MP and knocked him to the ground while the airman was talking on the radio. The MP drew his 45 and shot the GI striking him in both knee’s and down he went. One knee was totally destroyed and the other was shattered. While the GI was at 3rd Field Hospital they discovered he had been hit by the 38 bullet, remember he showed no sign of being hit at the time he was shot. This makes me a 45 caliber believer. As to brands I really have no knowledge which would be better than another. I do belong to a shooting club and see all the brands listed shot. Some are shot as is out of the box and other members spend a lot of money and time getting their pistol fine tuned. I have a Colt 45 and my wife has a Glock 45 both for concealed carry. We shoot a couple of boxes each a month to try and stay a little proficient and neither of us has experienced any mechanical problems with our pistols. If someone wants to buy a Colt, Springfield, Glock or any other pistol it should be their decision and I don’t believe we should pass judgement on them or say the pistol is less worthy than any other. If you practice with the pistol you are going to use and it works for you than it is the pistol for you. The USMC has decided it wants the Cold M45, so be it. If you believe they have made a wrong choice I don’t think anyone on this blog can change your mind. My Colt works for me and I believe it is a good platform for what my intended use is, close in shooting and making sure the subject goes down when hit.

  • I could probably read through the comments and find this answer im sure but.. will the M45A1 be released to the civilians? I mean we get the Beretta M9a1 .. The Sig Mk25.. The Sig M11-A1 … so does this get the special sale to the public? Because obviously I could buy the Colt 1911 Rail Gun and custom build it to exacting specifications of the M45A1 but would rather save the trouble and purchase it complete.. plus it would make a great conversation piece at the range. Hahaa!