Steve Johnson

Founder and Dictator-In-Chief of TFB. A passionate gun owner, a shooting enthusiast and totally tacti-uncool. Favorite first date location: any gun range. Steve can be contacted here.


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  • Nadnerbus

    Dear Remington,

    Please tell Bushmaster to go away and make us a civilian version of this.

    Me-

    P.S.- keep it under $1700

    • Lance

      Not going to happen any new gun like a ACR or HK 416 (MR 5.56) or SR-5.56 will be overpriced even current stock rifles that are widely used like a AR or M-4 are over priced.

      Sad I know.

  • Joseph

    That looks impressive. I Like it.

  • jim

    The Remington ACR looks like it sets a new record for the most push pins, screws and other pins and fasteners ever used on a infantry rifle. Ridiculous!

    • 18D

      WTF, it only has four takedown pins! How is that ridiculous? It makes more sense then a castle nut and dreaded barrel nut assembly!

  • Wait! Magnesium? Is there an advantage to making a rifle out of a metal that BURNS? ISTR that, in high school chem class, we lit it on fire with a bic lighter.

    • Matt G.

      It’s a magnesium/aluminum allow. Used very often in car parts.

    • 18D

      It’s magnalium. Not 100% magnesium.

  • Lance

    Interesting weapon YES! But im bummed that there no folding stock or new caliber like 6.5mm. So I really don’t think this can fully take a M-4 out, doesn’t offer much improvements. But as a alternative to shooters who want a different .223 rifle yes very interesting.

    • Matt G.

      I’m pretty sure they just slapped that rifle together for the show. I don’t see any reason it couldn’t have a folding stock.

  • Marco

    so it lost the folding stock (i think to reduce the weight)… but in 2011, what is the reason of the absence of ambidextrous selector in a new rifle? (and we are talking about a new conception rifle…)

  • 18D

    Well, it certainly looks the part. Now, let’s see if it can shoot. I certainly hope remington made necessary changes to the internal components of the gun in order to make it more reliable. The earlier variants of the ACR had serious issues with reliability and parts breakage.

    BTW, why does everyone keep calling the Remington ACR new? This variant has seen widespread use in recent years. Anyway, not sure if anyone wants a 7.2 lbs carbine!

  • Matt G.

    Meh. It’s just a little bit prettier lower that we civilians aren’t qualified to own and the Remington foreend we civilians also aren’t qualified to own.

    Until Remington starts being alot less assholeish about restricting who they sell to (i love the whole”we are trying to fill LEO orders” excuse. Whens the last time you saw ANYONE in uniform using an acr?) and move production to someone beside shrubmaster(great job on the accidental full-auto feature guys!) I’m probly never going to be able to trust one of these for hard use. If I won the lottery I suppose I would buy one and have a new barrel from a reputable manufacturer fitted and I guess have someone custom make a new bolt/carrier and firing system since I don’t trust BMs at all.

    The only thing the ACR has going for it right now is that the SCAR is Fugly. But I shot a full auto scar the other day and it was actually allright. Even with the retarded bolt catch.

  • Axel Nordberg

    Is that a bolt release by the trigger guard? Was the XCR or the ACR the first to use that setup?

    • jdun1911

      XCR released it first. There was a lawsuit on the patent IIRC. Don’t know how it was settled.

      • Jodie

        I beleave the FAL was the first to have a Bolt release like this. Bushmaster had a 308 that had one as well, but I don’t know if it pre-dated the XCR…

    • 18D

      Jodie, you’re right! It was the FAL.

    • Axel Nordberg

      The FAL is further forward I think, and it’s meant to be actuated with the thumb of the magazine changing hand. This and the XCR seems to be meant to be actuated by the trigger finger.

      I have never even seen either of the rifles, but it seems as if the XCR is what the magpul was promising to become. The new XCR even has an ACR stock…

  • SpudGun

    So, all of the really interesting stuff that made the original Magpul Masada seem so exciting – folding stock, quick caliber change, etc. has been totally removed to make an AR clone with some funky furniture?

    Wow, that is very disappointing. 🙁

    • 18D

      The only thing that has been changed is the folding stock. This is far (far, far, far) from an AR clone. If you don’t like the stock, change it! That’s the best thing about the ACR, you can easily change anything to fit your needs. The ACR is the ONLY weapon system on the market with its capability!

      • SpudGun

        I hope you’re right 18D and that the Remington can do everything as advertised. I always worry when a rifle (or any product) has been in ‘development hell’ for as long as the ACR.

        As others have stated, the entire AR market has caught up with all the special features which were once so unique on the ACR – hence my AR clone comment.

        I’ll try and keep an open mind regarding the ACR, every system goes through some teething trouble at the beginning and sometimes takes a while to catch hold – the number of people I’ve met who are overjoyed with their own personal SCAR 16s is proof of that.

        Color me: ‘waiting and watching’.

      • GregK

        Easily changed… IF (and only IF) Rem or Bushy decides to sell you the parts you want.

        All these modular rifles on the market are a sad joke precisely because the companies offering them never come through and bring the wide range of parts out that would make that modularity actually count for anything.

  • Kyle

    I see no reason for no folding stock even if it is to reduce weight. I’d just stick with readily available lw ar-15 then. They added stuff we wanted at first and made it a tank. Then they thought hmmm no one wants to carry around this iron clad of a weapon. Let’s lighten it up and take off everything that we originally made the rifle for…. I’d much rather have a scar 16, or just have a high value ar-15.

  • charles222

    Drang, it’s a magnesium alloy; it doesn’t catch fire.

    Anyway, I like how the magnesium looks; it’s obviously not aluminum or steel.

  • DaveR

    What’s the friggin’ point of a **NON-ambi fire-select**on a weapons system that was designed to be ambidextrous from the ground up???

    • Burst

      It’s for the gun hipsters; think of it as the equivalent of drinking Pabst from a oaken cask.

      of course, all the right handed hipsters will have to mod it to be lefty-only.

  • Dan

    When I first shot an ACR I loved it, but I cant justify the price of one.
    The second they come into my price range I’ll pick one up

  • W

    remington really did justice to the masada, unlike bushmaster, though i am more interested in performance/reliability testing. Remington cut out a lot of the BS because you don’t need a folding buttstock or quick detachable barrel. What fascinates me is the barrel; if im not mistaken, they fluted it 😀

    • 18D

      Are you serious? Remington is the company that has screwed this up from the beginning!

      • W

        remington screwed it up from the beginning?

        please point out this fact. im just curious, nothing more.

        I disagree that bushmaster even screwed up the ACR. Of course, a new rifle is going to have teething problems but those issues have been ironed out in newer production rifles. I’m not sure where the 1,500 dollars per unit originated from, though it amuses me that people expected a state-of-the-art evolutionary military-style rifle for such a bargain. I was not shocked when the real price came out.

        It appears to me that remington has effectively militarized the ACR even more, which is a good thing.

      • 18D

        When Bushmaster and Remington picked up the ACR, they made a number of changes to the gun. These changes were not necessarily approved by the original designers. When the first ACR’s began going through T&E’s, they had serious problems and lacked many of the specs it was supposed to have. Every variant of the Remington ACR has had serious reliability issues and parts durability issues. Remington did not listen to feedback on possible fixes for the issues either.

        I have no experience with the commercial Bushmaster ACR, so I can’t say with certainty it had problems too, but it wouldn’t suprise me. The newest variant is the only one left to prove the ACR has the capability to be the rifle of the future.

      • W

        aahhh, gotcha. So perhaps the biggest mistake with the design was not the design itself, but the first company that mass produced the ACR? Thats rather unfortunate. I thought the ACR utilized the AR15 trigger group, but then they had problems with the trigger assembly. wtf.

  • Vitor

    ARX-160 was the gun that delivered everything promised by the Masada while being light.

  • Sid

    Okay…. so we finally have the gun…. and what role does it serve? Is it a quick change, caliber convertible, modular weapon system?….. or, is it just another military styled rifle?

    The Magpul Masada promised much. Then, Bushmaster had the project. Now Remington. How is the ACR an Adaptive Combat Rifle?

    Civilian shooters may see something in the rifle. I seriously doubt many military contracts are going to be filled by the ACR. I can’t see that it offers any advantages over current weapon systems.

    • 18D

      What are you talking about? The ACR has modularity not found in any other weapon system on the market. Quick change barrels (caliber changes), quick change stock, grip, forend, and its ambidextrous and ergonomic to boot. How is this not an upgrade from current systems? If you think there is something better, please share.

      • Colin

        He’s talking about the parts that Remington took off the ACR to produce this rifle (folding stock, quick change barrel, mirrored selector, etc)…

      • Sid

        Changing from 5.56 to 6.8… hmmm… let me see if that has been done before….. Yeh, just about any AR clone can do that. Two pins out, new upper with internals, change magazines, pull trigger.

        But, but…. what about the different length barrels? Yep, see above. Any AR clone can do this. The benefit of the AR upper exchange is that the optics or sights will already be on the upper so there are precious few if any adjustments to be made. With a big enough wall locker, the current M4 can perform any of the capabilities the ACR offers. Heavy barrel piston upper makes for a designated automatic rifleman. Short barrel and collapsible stock makes for a CQB weapon. Nice optics on an 18 barrel makes for sniper support weapon.

        Quick change is not a needed military feature. A few pins punched out makes all the changes on the current weapon systems. Less quick, but no less modular.

        Everything else listed on the Remington Defense site for this weapon system is already available for the ARs we already have.

        The trick that the Masada was supposed to pull off was going from 5.56 to 7.62 x 39mm ammo when behind enemy lines. As rare as that trick would ever be needed, it is not presented in the ACR literature.

        So, my original point stands. The ACR as presented offers nothing new. The civilian model offers less than nothing new. What is the damn point of this weapon if it will not add capability for a military purchase?

      • Sid

        http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/Firearms/Carbines/RGP.aspx

        If they made 6.8mm uppers for this, it would be the same functionality with the exception of the folding stock.

      • 18D

        First of all, the ACR offers more to the Military than anyone else. The ability to make changes to one weapon means less logistical issues for any branch of the service.

        Second, you’re wrong. There is no AR on the map that can do what the ACR can. Your post just proves my point, so there really isn’t anything to say. Thanks.

      • Tinkerer

        18D

        The original Masada and Bushmaster ACR promised quick change barrel, folding stock, ambidextrous selector, and other stuff. This current Remington ACR has none. Want to change the caliber or barrel lenght? You’ll have to do an upper receiver swap -just like with current generation AR-15s. The only advantages I see are the gas piston design and the charging handle -and those could have been made into an AR upper, anyway. Frannkly, the only rifle currently in service that features all those goodies is the Steyr AUG, even with i t’s dreaded trigger -which I believe is a purposely-designed characteristic for handling safety, since something as simple as the Trigger Tamer can improve it lots.

      • A.K. for T-7

        ARX-160 = better, adopted by a major Army and combat tested

    • 18D

      The ACR you see in the pics above DOES have the quick change barrel capability.

      The folding stock is an option that very few operators will want or need. The version you see in the pics is lighter and stronger, and doesn’t have a hinge that can break. The ACR also has ambi controls and while I’m not sure why the ACR in the pic doesn’t have an ambi safety, I’m told the ICC version does.

      I love my AR as much as the next guy, but the ACR brings a capability to the modern battlefield the AR cannot. Switching out uppers would cost 3x as much as switching barrels and forends, not to mention the logistic simplicity.

      I have said this before and I’ll say it again, the ACR has the ability to do things no other weapon system on the market can. It’s the concept of the future, but Remington has to figure out how to make it run first!

  • foxtrot

    Its a nice looking rifle and I would love to shoot it. I just don’t see how this is a better mouse trap than the AR. Plus for the price of this you could just buy a high end AR, or an AR-10.

  • Jason

    So… If they aren’t going to sell it to the public, who are they selling it to?

    • 18D

      The Remington variant is specifically designed around Military use. That is why Freedom Group tasked Remington’s Military Products Division (MPD) to develop this variant, not Bushmaster. This gun was developed with future military contracts in mind (primarily the ICC).

  • Lance

    The whole barrel change option was taken away in this model plus you dont have to sight in a AR when you change uppers when you change barrel you have to re-sight the weapon per barrel and caliber. That’s why it doesn’t really add up to a game changer in the military.

    Plus this model doesn’t have barrel change anyway so its another 16inch .223 pea shooter.

    • 18D

      The Remington ACR DOES have the quick change barrel system. The MPD variant is slightly different in the way it achieves the QCB capability, but it still has it.

      Changing AR uppers does not mean you can just run with your optics. Dialed in operators are going to re-zero even when changing to an upper with optics already attached. Failing to do so is setting yourself up for failure! If you were the kind of person that would just run with this new upper, the ACR still has an answer! Modern optics are able to retain zero even when taken off and put back on. This is due primarily to the quality of optic and the high quality mounts on the market. Put the optic in the same place and you should be close. This practice is not recommended however, and the same can be said for replacing an AR upper.

      The ACR is truly the future of military small arms. Modern high tech materials and coatings ensure its durability in any environment. The ability to change stocks, grips, trigger guards, trigger groups, forends, and barrels all within the same weapon system is UNMATCHED on the market. It is ergonomic and ambidexterous, allowing the end user to truly configure the ACR to individual preference. The ACR can be configured for any assault rifle cartridge including the 5.56, 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 SPC, and the 7.62×39, which is a cartridge the AR cannot be “truly” chambered for.

    • Lance

      Sorry the Remington President said it doesn’t have a barrel change or folding stock. Since the ICC stated a regular barrel (no Change) and 5.56mm caliber the Remington company deleted them so that cost would be cut in making said weaponm. Trustr me many blogs at AUSA said this last month. Its very limited and barrel changes are useless in the field and it changes the point of impact so re-sighting is needed. I really doubt the ACR will be the Army’s future weapon the ICC is only for a 5,.56mm rifle and the military said barrel change and piston systems are NOT required. The ACR in the competition is really a HK 416 with a new body, it don’t have those feature since there not required. With Budget cut coming I doubt the M-4 wont be leaving.

      The USAF and USMC and Navy said they will not buy a new weapon anyway and the USMC is planning upgraded for the A4 rifle.

      The ACR is a fine weapon but the military version was meant to be cheaper and less capable than other version so its not really all that major in comparison to a M-4. The Military made the ICC lousy because it doesn’t want a new weapon all of this was due to crap political leaders like Tom Colburn who was being paid by FN to make noise over the M-4.

      • 18D

        Now I know I’m talking to a child. The Remington President? LMFAO!! I’ll say it again, the Remington ACR you see in the picture has a QCB.

        BTW, the ACR is absolutely 0% like the HK 416.

      • W

        coburn paid by FN? never heard that one before.

        I believe the ACR’s multi-caliber approach is being done because companies are playing tug-of-war with the military, primarily because they don’t know if the 5.56 is going to stay or if another caliber will be adopted (the military has made irrational decisions before). Its a constant game of cat and mouse; honestly, i don’t think the military has any desire to change anything since the ones making the decision aren’t door kickers (and receive nice kickbacks from Colt and other defense contractors that field inferior equipment).

        in regards to the caliber, 18 you are absolutely correct. the ACR, in terms of the ability to change calibers, is light years ahead of the AR15, which was designed for the 5.56mm round. I believe the capabilities of the AR15 are being stretched to their limits and the rifle itself has technologically peaked. The H&K 416 is nothing like a ACR, though H&K had a novel idea conceiving a gas piston AR15, which can easily replace the uppers of existing rifles.

    • Lance

      @ 18D

      Your being a real piece of work Strange your saying it can do all this when in a interview at AUSA he said the ACR being sent to the ICC event will not have said barrel change options to it or folding stock. The ACR in this pic is NOT the one in the Army research competition its at the European Arms how, NOT AUSA. The ACR will NOT be the gun of the future and you said that of the FN SCAR and the other guns all at the same time. You cant do math only one gun can be the gun of the future. And since BIG cuts are coming I doubt the competion will replace all M4s next year I doubt anything would come from it.

      When you resort to personal attacks I know your a faker on what you claim if you cant stand someone saying your gun isn’t there favorite or the the gun of the future, and you go on the war path it prove your no spec ops operator since most of them don’t brag on there exploits and tell everyone they know everything on weapons.

      I know you write back calling me bad words and causing and saying how SCAR or ACR no wait the XCR will be everyone favorite gun ever but you don’t deserve a reply. Go stew in your own juices pal.

      • 18D

        I’m not sure exactly what you said, but I’ll attempt to clear things up.

        I’m not sure who you’ve been talking to, but the Remington ACR DOES have the QCB. As I stated before, the newest MPD variant goes about it in a slightly different way. When I say this, I’m not asking you, I’m yelling you. I’m not sure why you’re trying to argue with someone in the industry, but if that’s what you wanna do, then that’s fine with me. I’ve always tried to get you guys good information, and I never post speculation.

        You’re correct, I did say the SCAR was the weapon of the future. Future weapon systems show common trends, and the idea that there can only be one is ridiculous. The ACR and SCAR have been compared to each other over and over since their inception. On the battlefield of tomorrow there will CERTAINLY be more than one gun. Both systems have their merits. The SCAR has superior reliability and accuracy while the ACR does not. The ACR has a modular concept unlike any other, while the SCAR has the potential. If reliability and parts breakage issues are worked out, the ACR will be a superior weapon. If not, the SCAR is already proven.

        I don’t care if anyone likes the same things as I do. I only come here to put out facts. You can say whatever you want, but at some point you can’t ignore the writing on the wall. I’m adamant about my views because I believe in them, that’s why they’re my views. I could care less who believes them. I will always put out fact. After that, its up to you.

        Like I said, my reputation speaks for itself. I have NEVER been boastful or mentioned my background unless it was in reference to the conversation. You’re right, professionals don’t brag about their accomplishments, which is why I have never felt the need to do so. Like I said, my reputation speaks for itself. I write for another blog that YOU read daily. Stop reading between the lines. There’s nothing there!

    • jdun1911

      I can assure you that SCAR and the ACR will not be adapted for wide use in the US military if any. Both guns bring nothing new to the table from past weapon systems. Both firearm used the Sullivan action that have been rejected by the US military over and over again.

      • Lance

        The real game changer if the budget allows is the CM901 since the upper would allow real modularity and caliber since 901 you can go from 7.62mm to 5.56mm quickly the ACR was never produced to shoot 7.62mm NATO.

    • W

      what is interesting is that on the remington defense website http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/Firearms/Carbines/ACR.aspx
      it features the ACR with a folding stock and quick change barrel, but apparently, this new militarized variant doesn’t have either feature?
      is it outdated? perhaps not. I looked on the receiver material to give me some clues and it said “polymer or metal available”. Fascinating. Perhaps there’s two variants of the ACR from remington?

      I would have to say both sides can be right in this argument, though i would like to see the weapons system for myself.

  • Whatever

    I can understand why that most of the newer assault type rifles have an ejection port that is the smallest size possible (to minimize foreign objects getting in) but doesn’t that also make a jam more likely? Personally I’d rather have a ejection port that was bigger along with a closeable cover (like on the AR).

    It’s funny to me that there’s so much angst about what’s the perfect battle rifle in the West while the AK-47, the senior citizen of assault rifles, soldiers on in basically the rest of the world. Sometimes simpler is better.

    • W

      thats a good point. I believe in large, unhindered ejection port openings (like the M1 garand, SKS, or Vz58), though im pretty sure you won’t see that feature anymore. I believe in simplicity, though makers of these new assault rifles are trying to cram a bunch of features into them to appease the US military, who is notorious in squeezing every bit of capability out of a weapons platform, even if it goes outside the parameters of what it was originally designed for.

      • mosinman

        yeah i agree there, it seems like back in the old days they got it right, simple, well made, rugged………

  • Fancy new rifle for the failed 5.56mm round. The real solution would be a new rifle and a new cartridge. Can anyone say 6.5 Grendel or .260 British.

    • Hrachya Hayrapetyan

      .260 British? … hmm.. better 6.8 Rem SPC !

  • Lance

    Fact is this very blog pointed out that the ACR in ICC will not have barrel change or folding stock so 18D take it up with this Blog not me. And I do not believe you and fact is you cannot grantee this weapon will win every general over or break the budget cuts to replace every gun out there the USMC will not adopt the ACR or SCAR sorry. I also have friends who are editors at BIG BIG mill blogs so don’t try that card with me.

  • Matt G.

    I have a ruler you guys could borrow to settle this once and for all.

  • Hrachya Hayrapetyan

    NMACR – No More Advanced Combat Rifle !

  • Jason

    So, if I get a nice billet AR lower with ambi controls and a Magpul stock, throw an LMT MRP piston upper on it and paint it that ACR coyote brown, I should have a pretty kickass rifle, and for less than what this or the ACR Enhanced cost. I’m in!

  • charles222

    You’ll be saying “they got it right” the first time your M1 Garand’s gas plug comes unscrewed from recoil, or you actually take one apart and see what a ridiculous nightmare of linkages the operating system is. It’s a complicated mess.